Hell is full of people that refuse Gods love and persist in sinning . There is no place for them with God , God hates sin more than any of us could image .
2 Chronicles 7:14 came to mind when I wondered about this confusing & disappointing National election here in the USA. I thought of how many Christians will quote this verse. Then I wondered how many really considered the phrase, "turn from their wicked ways" and thought of themselves instead of a whole host of others. Most would not consider their own ways wicked. But what we may not consider "wicked ways" God does. What ways would you consider "wicked" for the child of God that would keep God from enacting this promise? Also, how many, I wonder, REALLY seek God's face seriously.
It's amazing that they never recognized it was the Lord Jesus , it just goes to show how blind men are even those that know truth . Only God can open eyes to see .
His word is alive , sometimes when I read the Bible I just can not put it down , it's like something that can not be shared . But O so good to read , see things in great detail and light ,and it's all free no hang overs . :)
Bruce, just further to Rob's good explanation, I likewise see the Spirit's testimony to us as a calm, peaceful confirmation to our hearts, but also one that was experienced by Jesus' disciples after Jesus rose from the grave. You can read about it in Luke chapter 24, but specifically as Jesus & they sat for a meal & when He prayed & broke the bread, the disciples eyes were opened & they knew Him. Then they said to one another in verse 32: "Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?"
So I see that as the disciples eyes & hearts were opened to the presence of the risen Jesus in their midst, so do we who have the indwelling Spirit of Christ in us, have our hearts, not only opened in response, but also "burn within us": showing the manifest confirmation by God that by His Spirit, He lives in us & will work in us to accomplish His Will. When you read & study the Scriptures or enter into a deep sincere prayer-time with God, His Spirit becomes very active & your "heart" will burn with joy, with anticipation, a sense of fulfilment, of wonder, of hope, of longing, never wanting that fellowship with your Father to cease. All these 'feelings' you sense in your spirit constantly confirm that you are indeed a child of the King, as God's Spirit speaks to you.
That's a very honest question , and a very good one .
Only God can give this too any person .
It's not a audible voice , but God can do that if he chooses but so can other spirits , it is not normally that way .
I liken it to a calm deep peaceful sense that I and God are one in a spiritual way , I'm not claiming to be God . But my experience is a experience that knows His presence with me in a very real way and it can grow stronger . Or get weaker too .It is extremely assuring and worth more than anything this world can give . God alone gives it to us and it's very real as God is . Spend time in the word of God and listen to Gods voice in the scriptures. A great place to start , prayer and quiet ness will help much .
I heard of people in prayer for hours but Reading the word of God in meditation feeds our inner man . Most important. May this help some ! God bless you as you seek him .
It could also be we need to be converted or sin in our life , there is no fellowship with God if we have sin in our life .
David said search my heart o God if there be any wicked way in me . If so repent and turn from it seeking Gods help to live above it . We must have a clean heart , we are to be Gods temple , we can not defile it with sin in any way .
We do not know what is in store for us who are in the spirit! The spirit of life in Christ Jesus! Paul has evidently experienced these lives, the one outside of Christ, and the one inside! This chapter should we spend much time studying! These words from heaven itself, thanks be to God!
Jim, if you're referring to Jesus while He was on Earth, consider 2 John 1:7, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist".
And Romans 8:3:"For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh".
After His Resurrection, He still had a human body: "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
And Acts 1:10,11: "And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he (Jesus) went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
1 John 3:2, "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."
Clearly demonstrating once again that JESUS is NOT flesh and bone but of a spirit nature, i.e. is made of energy and not physical things. Demonstrating once again anyone professing FLESH AND BONE jesus-man is a LIAR, charlatan and is bearing false witness!
I saw some pretty disturbing stuff the other night. We all need to clamp onto Jesus Christ and our Father. Keep our faith and be ready to take up our crosses. Always keep praying my brothers and sisters. He is always with us. He loves us all so much. Try not to worry and just stay calm. Getting nervous and full of fear profits us nothing.
It's important that as children of God that we not loose hope based on the trials we face , for greater is coming and when it does those things which we faced in times past will in no wise measure up ! "Eyes have not seen nor ears heard neither have entered into the heart of man the things that God has prepared for them that love Him are the called according to His purpose ! Hold on Church
I truly believe this passage goes beyond the gift of salvation, and the work of sanctification by the power of the Holy Spirit which by Grace is beautiful beyond measure. But the understanding comes from the last part of the verse understanding God's Purpose. It is so easy to say "All things work together for good to those who love God. But it is working through God's purposes for your life that takes greater faith, greater peace, greater joy, greater contentment in our circumstances, trials and testing that one can say God works all things for good according to His purposes for me, rather than to speak this passage up in the air as wishful thinking?
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Hallelujah I'm just going to eddyfy somemore to the word...
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein ( 1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' ( John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).
By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week ( Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15).
Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
THIS WAS REVEALED TO ME BY THE HOLY SPIRIT //Hallelujah//
8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
|Interpretation|: If we live according to the flesh and we dont repent, we are condemned for everlasting *death*. But if we live according to the spirit we will have everlasting *life* and *peace*.
8:33 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
|Interpretation|: If we are with God, no matter what comes against us, we will win. Cuz we have God, who is above all things.
If anyone believes in the Rapture and all it's doctrines they have no clue on the Bible in general .
If you think you can sin , and expect to go to heaven you have believed a devils gospel .
Both of which M has taught .
I'm not condemning any one just speaking truth to errors !
Amen !
Rebekah planned it and made Jacob help her.
The Bible says that GOD hated Esau for it.
Afterwards, Esau chased Jacob all over trying to get the birthright back.
Comment: This is the only scripture in the Bible where it says God hated someone.
This is Old Testament. Also, the bloodline of Jesus was traveling through Jacob.
For God so loved the world ( John 3).
It says God is angry with sinners , yet if they repent he is willing to forgive them , because he loves mercy over judgement .
God knows everyone and He is the perfect judge . He sees things only he can see about people , so must except that .
It's amazing that they never recognized it was the Lord Jesus , it just goes to show how blind men are even those that know truth . Only God can open eyes to see .
His word is alive , sometimes when I read the Bible I just can not put it down , it's like something that can not be shared . But O so good to read , see things in great detail and light ,and it's all free no hang overs . :)
So I see that as the disciples eyes & hearts were opened to the presence of the risen Jesus in their midst, so do we who have the indwelling Spirit of Christ in us, have our hearts, not only opened in response, but also "burn within us": showing the manifest confirmation by God that by His Spirit, He lives in us & will work in us to accomplish His Will. When you read & study the Scriptures or enter into a deep sincere prayer-time with God, His Spirit becomes very active & your "heart" will burn with joy, with anticipation, a sense of fulfilment, of wonder, of hope, of longing, never wanting that fellowship with your Father to cease. All these 'feelings' you sense in your spirit constantly confirm that you are indeed a child of the King, as God's Spirit speaks to you.
Only God can give this too any person .
It's not a audible voice , but God can do that if he chooses but so can other spirits , it is not normally that way .
I liken it to a calm deep peaceful sense that I and God are one in a spiritual way , I'm not claiming to be God . But my experience is a experience that knows His presence with me in a very real way and it can grow stronger . Or get weaker too .It is extremely assuring and worth more than anything this world can give . God alone gives it to us and it's very real as God is . Spend time in the word of God and listen to Gods voice in the scriptures. A great place to start , prayer and quiet ness will help much .
I heard of people in prayer for hours but Reading the word of God in meditation feeds our inner man . Most important. May this help some ! God bless you as you seek him .
It could also be we need to be converted or sin in our life , there is no fellowship with God if we have sin in our life .
David said search my heart o God if there be any wicked way in me . If so repent and turn from it seeking Gods help to live above it . We must have a clean heart , we are to be Gods temple , we can not defile it with sin in any way .
And Romans 8:3:"For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh".
After His Resurrection, He still had a human body: "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
And Acts 1:10,11: "And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he (Jesus) went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
1 John 3:2, "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."
I saw some pretty disturbing stuff the other night. We all need to clamp onto Jesus Christ and our Father. Keep our faith and be ready to take up our crosses. Always keep praying my brothers and sisters. He is always with us. He loves us all so much. Try not to worry and just stay calm. Getting nervous and full of fear profits us nothing.
Everyone is in my prayers. God Bless.
9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
By nature every person is born in sin through the sinful seed of their natural fathers and conditioned therein ( 1 Peter 1:23). For that reason and in order to become a son of God, which are born of God, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, a person must be 'Born Again' ( John 1:12,13; 3:3-7; 1 John 3:9; 5:4).
By attending a man-made institution a few hours a week ( Acts 7:48; 17:24), does not mean that a person can make a claim that they are followers of Christ and 'Born Again'. That is falsehood, as in truth they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed Himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15).
Only through 'True Repentance' will God be able to reveal Himself, and adopt you as His sons and daughters ( Rom. 8:15,23; 2 Cor.6:18; Gal. 4:5; Eph. 1:5; Hebr. 12:5; 1 John 3:1).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1). It is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
|Interpretation|: If we live according to the flesh and we dont repent, we are condemned for everlasting *death*. But if we live according to the spirit we will have everlasting *life* and *peace*.
8:33 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
|Interpretation|: If we are with God, no matter what comes against us, we will win. Cuz we have God, who is above all things.
to predetermine, decide beforehand
in the NT of God decreeing from eternity
to foreordain, appoint beforehand