Revelation Chapter 13 Discussion Page 17

I posted this three days ago. Part 1 of 3: Hello Andy: You are correct the technology is here and has been here. However, the law is not in place where a person has to either accept the mark of the beast or get their heads chopped off. This will not happen until after the rapture takes place. I have stated, I believe, that the stage is set however all the players are not in place, because the rapture has not taken place. In October 2007 Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a Senate bill 362 that no employer can make any employee be chipped. The bill went into effect January 1, 2008. This does not mean anything though because when the rapture takes place and all the evil characters are on the scene these laws will be over turned.

Andy the mark of the beast is IN your forehad meaning your brain and the mark on your hand is working the one world system that Satan sets up as instead of Christ meaning antichrist. During the 2 and a half months that Satan is here on earth as the false Christ you do not want to buy or sell so stock food and pay your rent up for about 3 months when you see the one world system come together.

The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office website...type in United States Patent Search Number 5,878,155. The technology for the Mark of the Beast tattoo is very real and in your face.

John 's vision here is proven to be relevant. Go to thethe U.S.Patent and Trademark office website and type in U.S. Patent Search 5,878,155. His warning is very real.

Evangelist provoke isn 't what I 'm trying to do. If you would clear your mind of mans teachings and turn off the History Cannel on your TV because there they that tell stories of false endings that will take place don 't give the truth but Open your eyes to what the world teaches and go the other way. Go get a Exhaustive Strong 's and study! Forget what you have been told and learn the truth. Man says you want to be the first one taken but God says be a watchman and don 't go! God says stay on the housetops and in the field working. That 's how the Elect can tell your teaching traditions of men. Take heed and don 't listen to the lies of the world.

Hello Mark: As concerned as everyone is about what is going on in the Middle-East, I assure you that ISIL is not part of the Beast Rising out of the Sea. The things in Book of Revelation are not happening now. The rapture has not taken place. The true Christians that have taken on the name of Jesus Christ will not go through the tribulation events written in the Book of Revelation. We know this because in 1 Thessalonians 1: 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come .

One inescapable thought which has entered my mind when reading this vital chapter is that the Seven Heads and Ten thorns represent middle-east 'caliphs ' established or yet to be established by ISIL and their worship of a false prophet. No just God would condone their actions. We need the 2nd Coming of Christ to defeat them and save the world from their evil. The whole subject terrifies me. What I do know is that further evil will take place and we, as Christians have to hold strong to our beliefs to defeat them with the will of god and much prayer.

Hello Word: You will not provoke me to anger. I humbly say this to you. As long as God give me breath in the body, sound mind, and continue to teach me His word. I will teach the salvation plan of Acts 2: 38 and the rapture. This is the prime directive during this Dispensation of Grace.

Evangelist as a student of God and His scriptures I think Acts is a good place for you to stay in. Preach Salvation and not the fly away but you connect all the scriptures to fly away even if it 's speaking of other subjects. So maybe you should just study more.

Hello Word 1 Thessalonians 4 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. This scripture is referring to those who had died in Christ waiting for the rapture. We seem to be at an impasse. Once again the rapture is very real. Have a nice day.

Hello Word 1 Thessalonians 4 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. This scripture is referring to those who had died in Christ waiting for the rapture. We seem to be at an impasse. Once again the rapture is very real. I will not deviate from the word of God. I do not have anything else to say to you on the subject of the rapture. Have a nice day.

Evangelist In Ecclesiastes 12 vs 6 we learn when the silver cord be loosed meaning parted and that means it dies and in vs 7 it tells us that when a person dies the body returns to dust but the spirit body that is inside us as Paul in the N. T. tells us when our flesh bodies die the soul and spirit which is inside each of us which is our self goes straight back to the Father but just like all scriptures you don 't read them you make up your own. There is no one in the soil in a graveyard and there is no Saints in the tomb. There is no rapture because Christ comes one time only and that 's at the 7th trump and that is scripture.

Evangelist there is no one in a grave. The good go straight to the Father when their flesh dies and the bad go to the holding place known as the tomb or grave but you have to look into the Hebrew and Greek to understand the scriptures which you never do. Listening to men and their traditional ways will only make void the word of God for you and you need to seek the LORD on your own because what your saying is not truth.

the first beast will utter blasphemy and will be wounded. the second beast will come when that happens and forms an image. that image is the mark of the beast. that mark will be that man. that man has a mark and it is his name. people will have the name of that man on their forehead or right arm. this man has a name that is like the number 666

Hello Word The dead that have put on the name of Jesus Christ is not in heaven at this time. They are sleep in the grave waiting for the rapture. The 7th trumpet spoken of in Revelation is not the trumpet sounded here in 1 Thessalonians. The children of God will not go through the wrath that is to come. Alright look at it like this, the events in Revelation that pertain to the tribulation will happen in succession. God will not have the 7th trump sound for the rapture and then after the mark of the beast event then have the other trumpets sound. Before the trumpets sound there will be seals opened in succession. God is not going to deviate from his plan. The rapture is very real and so is the tribulation. God is going to destroy this heaven and earth and new ones will appear, Revelation 21 1. Revelation is broken up in past, present, and future.

Evangelist the subject in 1 Thessalonian 4 vs 12 through 18 is where are the dead that have went to Christ and they are a live with Him on His return at the 7th trump and we will meet them here on earth in a twinkle of an eye and no one is flying anywhere because Christ sets His Kingdom up here and there is no rapture in the Bible except where God tells us He hates them that dream up out of their own minds and that teach the rapture in Ezekiel 13. You really need to read it and believe what God says instead of man and his made up salvation.

Hello Word I believe I have stuck with the subject matter. The subject being people need to get saved. They need to follow Acts 2 38 in order to be saved. They have to stay saved in order to make the rapture. The rapture is very real, 1 Thessalonians 4 12 thru 18. Have a nice day.

Evangelist you can throw verses up all day long but that still won 't changed the truth of Gods salvation. You need to read those verses and stick with the subject matter.

Part 2of 2 During the tribulation when people are given a choice to take the mark or get their heads chopped off, those who get their heads chopped, some scholars believe that these people automatically go straight to the throne. They do not go through the grave, Revelation 6 9. The other thought is that Jesus was talking about those saints that were to come forth after his death and was seen walking around in the city of Jerusalem, Matthew 27 51 thru 53. In the end, the rapture is very real and will happen whether you or anyone believes it.

Part 1 of 2 Hello Word Jesus is talking about the rapture in, Matthew 24 40 Then shall two be in the field the one shall be taken, and the other left . John 5 28 and 29 is twofold by revelation, if I can say it like this is talking about the saints who sleeps or dead are waiting to be resurrected. You have to understand that there are no saints waiting during the tribulation period in the graves. The rapture has already taken place.

Evangelist Chatanua Robinson That last post I put 1 Thessalonians but tomb and judgment was the one you posted on John 5 vs 28 and 29 where you used rapture something chickens flying but it was really speaking of in John 5 vs 28 and 29 of them held in grave or prison or tomb until final Judgment and at that great white throne Judgment they are erased blotted out. So the grave there in 28 is a prison holding place and 29 is Judgment. Oh, yeah you said something really strange that there was Saints held there with the wicked heathens and I thought that has to be corrected.

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson 1 Thessalonians 4 its speaking of tomb as in held and judgment where grave is tomb, prison on the other side of the void from heaven where un repented being held till Judgment just as Lazarus was. It 's not a flame outside burning Lazarus it was inside of the lost of water, the LIVING WATER on the Throne. No one is in a grave in a graveyard waiting to fly or what ever you said. Ecclesiastes 12 vs 6 says when silver cord parts or clay body dies or pitcher broken or a cistern meaning when a person dies they go straight to the Father. Vs 7 Their body returns to soil and spirit return to God. No rapture then and none in 1 Thessalonians 4.

Evangelist Chatauna Robinson I want to help you with 1 Thessalonians 4 17 remember the subject is where are the dead vs. 13 and down in this chapter.17 Then we which are alive .. in flesh bodies.. and remain .. on earth.. shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, menaing crowd Hebrews 12 1 street greek.. to meet the Lord in the air .. 109 Greek breath of life, the breath you inhale,breathe within, a stirring of life, higher level of thinking, spirit bodies and not the stratosphere, not flying away into outer space .. and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Note. In a twinkle of an eye any Bible student from knowing the rest of the scriptures will know what is spoken here so keep trying.

Hello Word I am sorry a lot of your interpretations I do not understand them. The rapture or the catching away is not a lie. The Bible speaks of this that is coming, 1 Thessalonians 4 12 thru 18. Like in the days of Noah when the people did not believe that it was going to rain, there are some people who do not believe that the rapture will take place. However, whether you or anyone else believe it or not it is going to take place, just like the rain fell. Have a nice day.

RMN You and the evangelist have a lot to be said about these graves opening here and there and these have life and these are still dead in the grave but I tell you that we are the God of the living and not the dead and if your not in the flesh your with the Father. You might be on the other side of the void in the tomb and in prison for unbelieving or sin un repented but the grass is still just as green and all are living a normal life up until they are Judged. Satan and his bunch are in a pit but soon will be kicked out to here and all of them take up the ministry preaching for their leader instead of Christ or anti Christ. In 2 Corinthians 11 vs 13 to 15 you can find that and oh the word transformed is code 3345 disguised.All their followers will have the stamp inside their minds while sitting in church listening to a flood of lies thinking their husband has came home and they are no widow. Bringing in the sheep to fly Satan united air.

I bet you two don 't know what verse 8 means? It 's saying the chosen set aside ones that were with God and stood against Satan at the katabole which was Satans attempted overthrow. Now these elect are chosen again to stand against Satan at the end. But you don 't believe that. But when you see the two witnesses killed by Satan at the arena or where all can see then you will know you need to know 1Corinthians that all will change at the 7th trump and there is only One Great Day of The Lord and you went through the test and failed if your with him and ready to fly.

AR after reading what the Evangelist is preaching and RMN and even you I have realize none of you have read the Bible from the first page to the last page and have no idea what the scriptures say. Especial the evangelist. But she has learned only what was said by men and then pulling verses to make it sound so real leading people to a tower of babble or another fly away salvation lie. Christ comes once on that Great Day of The Lord. Anyone of you can read it all for your selves. I tried to drag you away from a strong delusion. Father said if you want to believe the lie go a head.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days, shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from Heaven, and the powers of Heaven shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then shall ALL of the tribes of Earth mourn and they see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and Great Glory, it 's at this split instance in the twinkling of an eye that two will be at the grinding stone and one will be taken and the other left, to face the Wrath of the Almighty GOD and his AVENGING DESTROYER, the SON OF GOD, and the risen ones will meet the LORD in the air, after he makes quick work of his total world destruction. in which no one is left alive, but satan and his hordes of demons imprisoned for 1000 years, while the rest of the dead also lived not again until the 1000 years is over. AMEN

Hello RNM The true antichrist is not here yet. There are many who have the spirit of the antichrist but the true antichrist is not here yet, 1 John 2 18 "Little children, it is the last time and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists whereby we know that it is the last time ". One reason is because the Rapture has not taken place.

The day of the Lord is going to be a supernatural event, As the KING OF KING returns as the DESTOYER in the same instance the Earth is being devoured by the Holy Fire of God the dead in Christ will Rise and then we which are alive and remain will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air, the earth will be uninhabited for 1000 years all the cities will be broken down from the WRATH OF GOD even Jerusalem, and the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years are finished and at that time the LAMB OF GOD descends on the mount of Olives and the mountains are cleaved north and south and east and west and purified by the SON and HALLOWED of a space of over 1500 miles in all directions to make way for GOD 'S HOLY JERUSALEM