Psalms Chapter 89 Discussion

Hi Rosa. The word 'horn' that you read in some Psalms (e.g. Psalms 92:10; 132:17; 18:2; etc), usually have reference to the horn of the unicorn (or, wild ox). I usually picture a rhinocerous in these instances & the power that this beast holds against most all land animals. So the meanings associated with 'horn', can be various, but certainly, one could use, 'power, strength, dignity' in those verses. But in Psalm 75:5, for example, it denotes 'one that is arrogant or haughty'. Keep these words in mind as you re-read those Psalms.

explain the word horn in many of the Psalms.

Psalm 89

This psalm is multifaceted. There are many parallel references to David and Christ ruling in the future Millennium period (v.22-23); with a covenant promising these things as well as the eternal aspects of these promises. There is also the apparent violation of God of a covenant to Ethan the Ezrahite in v. 38-51. This; of course can't be true; but it is clear from the earlier verses that chastisement can occur but God never ultimately forsakes His eternal covenants; as long as the moon and sun remain. There is a description of the heavens and the earth (v.11) which reminds us of the evidences of God to the world in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. There is the fear and reverence of God shown from the saints in the assembly which could symbolize souls of the righteous and/or the future Resurrected and raptured saint of God.

Thank you Lord for walking with me through my afflictions. Thank you for not forsaking me. Your Word comforts me, and brings me peace that I cannot explain. Thank you Lord for how you are ever present with me. Bless those who are against me, shine your face on all of us. Thank you Lord as I eagerly await your coming as you promised. Praise you Lord for your Love and Comfort.

October 23, 2021

Thanks for the tip! I downloaded YouVersion app then KJV with audio, works fine, hopefully audio feature is playing from download and not streaming from internet, takes to much data.

I have never heard of those Metzger names, earliest ancestors I am aware of in my lineage are a Phillip & Phoebe Metzger migrated to U.S.A. Marion county Ohio, from Baden-Baden, Germany around 1840.

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Joel,

Can't answer anything about the audio Bible here. You can download You Version and get the KJV audio.

BTW, do you have a Craven (Jack) & Emily Metzger ancestor?

Just wondering if there was anyway to have the audio bible option offline.

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The mercies of our God is unquantifiable despite the daily unfaithfulness of humanity. God is worthy of all praise, glory, and honor, hallelujah!!!

Mathew 7:11 Says "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him" You are totally wrong. Jesus healed people and God has not changed. The Bible says God is the same yesterday, today and forever. He wants His children well just as you want your children well, and even more says the Bible.

Healing is a good gift. Jesus only did what he saw his father do. So he healed everyone that asked him. Therefore God wants to heal everyone that asks Him. If you don't believe God wants us well, you are going against God. Christ The Healer in You. Amazon

Thanks Bob,your comments are appreciated & well received. It is good to read that you are so firmly grounded & know that the KJV is based solidly on the trustworthy Textus Receptus. Yet for those who differ, I do not judge, but see an opportunity to discuss by text/original comparisons to bring us to Light & knowing our LORD's Mind. One of my pet discussions with our JW visitors, is Colossians 1:15: "Who (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature". The Gk. here is 'prototokos=first + to give birth to. JWs use (via a bad text. translation), 'protokitises'=first + created, which is not a biblical word. Similar, but a small change can bring on such a big error.

Greetings Chris, I understand what you write. Thing is a new believer listens to those trained by ungodly men who claim the King James is wrong and Greek or Hebrew really says this or that. My Bible college taught us the King James was right and laid a fair foundation. But others showed me the evil men and their dark associations to discredit the King James Bible. I hardly believed it at first. I learned research (before the internet) in secular college and traced down some of the accusations against these evil men and found them to be true. these will con us to believe the virgin birth was not real, John was just exaggerating the miracles of Christ and on and on. These do not build faith.

Bob, you've taken this to the next level. I agree with what you say, but for the 'average' believer, desire or opportunity precludes us from delving too deep into the backgrounds of these authors. Finding one that remains consistently true to the Word should be one for our consistent use. There is also a move by some to move away from post Nicene teachings to the fathers of the ante Nicene era. Of course, new teachings arise, particularly with Eschatology, but as has been claimed them, the Fathers were more faithful to Scriptural meaning and apostolic teaching (on this subject particularly). Did this aspect come up in your Bible College education & how did you receive it

I went to Bible college 6 years with a masters and never really learned Greek or Hebrew. Yet what books do we use to learn these languages The Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (10 Volume Set) by Gerhard Kittel is an absolute standard in seminaries. Kittel was an early member of the Nazi party a supporter of Hitler.

Before we start using these lexicons to understand what words mean, maybe we should find out what these authors believe. Do we want to learn Greek from a Nazi or a believer like Martin Luther flawed as he might be

the brown driver briggs Lexicon has Briggs who taught Messianic prediction has not and cannot be fulfilled aka

Jesus is not the Christ in other words

Troy, you are correct that the AV, as others, are just translations; they will never fully meet the interpretation, cultural, & societal aspects that are involved in original languages. The AV is the best we can have to read God's Word without learning Heb. & Gk. along with understanding the culture behind them. Your proficiency in Hebrew & Greek is to your credit & benefit & for our learning from such scholars. But to hold such disdain against the AV is a little harsh, I feel. Ps 89:47: for the literal translation in English reads: "Remind me how short life is, what (in futility) have You created all the sons of men". The word, , futility (vain) is what you show as nothingness.

If the Lord has no preserved word, then he is a failure and satan wins. Those who tell you this word is mistranslated are usually unbelievers and satanists. Thayer's Lexicon (he was a unitarian) who did not believe in the Deity of Christ and his word definitions reflect this. Then others claim the bible has "errors" Just because you do not understand something does not make it an error.

I love the Authorized Version, but it's just a translation. I've read it really 40 years. But I also read Hebrew and Greek, so I know the AV is NOT infallible. "Remember how short my time is: wherefore hast thou made all men in vain" should really be translated as "on nothingness Thou has CREATED all the sons of ADAM". It's pathetic errors like this in the AV--and other English translations--that show how limited it is at times. Shalom. Troy

I have two favorite chapters of the bible this is one of them.

Did not realize the 'latter days' refereed to the death of Christ on the cross. An eye opener!

David as a boy showed amazing faith to slay evil. God set David apart with wisdom and grace. A human forerunner to divinity (Jesus). What a human David can’t be, Jesus was. God’s wrath towards sin, forsaking Jesus with his rod of discipline spoken about in Ps 89. Millennia passes, the Word now heard in all nations so what is next from God? We know not, so let our faith light shine for others lost.

Steve; Yes! When we read any of the Lord's parables, for example, He was using familiar things to bring out a spiritual and moral point; which were the same points as were in the Law and the Prophets' Writings..."By Inspiration of God!" Of course Jesus quotes Scriptures, as do all His servants speaking in His Name; but that wasn't what I said! I was talking about expounding the sense and meaning.

"Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O LORD, in the light of thy countenance." Psalms 89:15 THE JOY OF THE LORD IS OUR STRENGTH! Victory! Victory! Victory! Hallelujah! Salvation and honor and glory belongs to the LORD our God! A happy joyful Christian is a Christian walking in obedience and victory and the LORD has answered us by the joy of our heart! A sad long face, moping around in defeat and failure, a critical and mean spirit AGAINST YOUR OWN BROTHERS AND SISTERS! That is NOT the "Joyful Sound:" but the mark of the condemned and disobedient. Be right with God and your Brethren in the Lord, and you will have the Joy of the LORD which will be seen by all, to Jesus' glory!

I really like psalm and it's a full of praise so very morning use to praised with his wonderful words blessing over me.

Thanks be unto Jesus who have shown unto us the way truth and life from Abba. May we walk in the Spiritual steps and continue to hold on to our heritage that came with a price that no man can repeat. Sounds of heaven sending out the alarm,come come all who is weary tired find rest of me, the Lord of Lord. I love you richly. amen

With my mouth, I will make known your faithfulness.... does all your work colleagues, even your clients know of your faith?

Glory to God in the highest for he is faithful to his words. Jesus is the perfect obedience to the Father therefore we follow obey and live like Jesus coz in him there is no darkness. Thanks to the blood Lord. Help us to be born again in spirit every moment of our life. Unless a man will not be born of water and in spirit we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. Thank you Jesus for giving us faith

O LORD IEHOUAH, most High GOD of Israel, who created all things by Jesus Christ: let it be known this day that thou art GOD in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word. Blessed be the LORD IEHOUAH for evermore. Amen, and Amen.

In verse 27 since David was not a firstborn son it seems that Jehovah God was referring prophetically to the one foreshadowed by David, Jesus Christ.

Forever I want to know that joyful sound, O Lord.

Those who know the joyful shouting will be blessed to have God's favor shine upon them.

The joyful sound is not in knowing Jesus is coming He is already here. This is why we cannot enjoy the fullness of God. Our Father's prayer says on earth as it is in heaven. To have Him is heaven and without Him is sorrow. John 10:10 says He came that we might have life and have it more abundantly. When Jesus was on earth those who believed were neither sick nor hungry His presence is Joy NOW