Bible Discussion Thread

Hunh........... I guess Eph 2:8-9 must have been a type O then.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Ones works are insufficient: Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Romans 3:10
As it is written, THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, no, not one:

Good works are a manifestation of a born again spirit to be sure. But they did not save anyone. That would mean that Christ's death alone on the cross was not sufficient.

2 Corinthians 3:5
Not that we are SUFFICIENT of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency [is] of God;

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is SUFFICIENT for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

One cannot earn God's favor (Grace) it is freely given. We only need to believe.

Romans 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be JUSTIFIED in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.



Romans 3:24
Being JUSTIFIED freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:



Romans 3:28
Therefore we conclude that a man is JUSTIFIED by faith without the deeds of the law.



Romans 4:2
For if Abraham were JUSTIFIED by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God.



Romans 5:1
Therefore being JUSTIFIED by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:



Romans 5:9
Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.



Romans 8:30
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also JUSTIFIED: and whom he JUSTIFIED, them he also glorified.



1 Corinthians 4:4
For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby JUSTIFIED: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.



1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are JUSTIFIED in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.



Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not JUSTIFIED by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be JUSTIFIED.



Galatians 2:17
But if, while we seek to be JUSTIFIED by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.



Galatians 3:11
But that no man is JUSTIFIED by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.



Galatians 3:24
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by faith.



Galatians 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are JUSTIFIED by the law; ye are fallen from grace.



1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, JUSTIFIED in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.



Titus 3:7
That being JUSTIFIED by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

When verses in scripture seem to contradict each other you must do three things.

1. Find out what the rest of scripture tell us about the subject. *scripture interprets scripture*

2. Know the meaning in the original language as some does not translate well from its original. ( 1 John 3:6 and 3:9 are perfect examples) its says one born again is sinless; we know that not to be true it is impossible. A better translation would be to say; anyone born again will not continue in their sinful life style.)

3. Look at the historical context in which the subject was being written about.

Conclusion: Man has no part in his salvation, it is truly a gift to them that believe.