If there is anything you would like to discuss, I am completely open for friendly discussion. I read through your message a few more times but I am still unable to understand your main point. One thing that I can tell you is that I have told anyone, nor will I ever tell anyone that they cannot fully understand the scriptures without going to the "original texts" to get a right understanding. It would be wrong for me to say this. The things I am sharing under the heading "Biblical Greek Perspectives" are simply from my own personal studies. I completely agree with you that it takes God's Spirit to reveal the truth to us. Even if we had no written bibles, God's Spirit can still minister the truth about God to our hearts.
Giannis,
I wanted to say thank you for the two-part post you recently sent me but soon after removed. Please, I don't wish to know why you removed them, but I did receive them in my email and after reading through what you sent, I just wanted to thank you for the information. You have been very helpful in my studies, and I can't thank you enough.
Yes I removed my posts because I decided not to intervene at all any more in other brothers' work. Some brothers do get insulted or upset when someone else tells them a different thing than what they consider as right, maybe I would have felt the same myself if I were in their shoes. Actually my intention was not to intervene in your posts but to say what I know when I see that some other brothers disagree or ask for further explanations, like Gerald did. Also like Chris did in the past.
Thanks for your good words brother. May God bless you more.
Now the question is. Is the right interpretation of the scripture crucial for us christians? Sometimes a more accurate translation does not add much (or not at all really) to our knowledge and benefit of our souls. Example. If "phileo" and "agapao" are the same or somewhere near in meaning does not have any effect in our salvation. But there are few cases that a translation can lead to wrong beliefs. I believe we should mainly focus on those verses (this does not mean that I reject your work). Also our faith does not rely on a single verse but on the entire Bible. And if a verse seemingly is in contrast to others, if we search the scriptures carefuly we will eventually come to the right conclusion. As I see it the Bible is like a puzzle. If one wants to have the right image about something they must firstly find and pick up all the relevant pieces/verses from throughout the Bible and put them together. And this takes time and study, it can not be done overnight. The less pieces one puts the less accurate image one has. And if the pieces are not enough at all, then the green thing we see may be a green field or a green rocket, we can make it anything we like. I believe this is how wrong doctrines emmerge.
And definitely we need the Holy Spirit to intreprete the scriptures to us, especially the prophesies. GBU
Study in Greek or Hebrew certainly helps us understand the text but in order to grow spiritually we must take the hints from the Spirit and helps us in our infirmities so we may follow according to the Will of him who sealed us with his Spirit according to his purpose. In big strokes what are we considering in the Bible but our salvation which is being bonded to Jesus Christ from everlasting to everlasting. So as a new creation we are from the beginning. It is thus the Bible opens. In the beginning. How we were born but from the incorruptible seed. (1 Pe.1:23). So John's Gospel begins with, In the beginning' Thus we have a birth according to the will of flesh and blood. New birth is according to the Will of God. It is for this He sent his Son and we are called and we are blessed and it is what the everlasting covenant in the Ge. ch.1 is all about. The Bible is not about tribes, nations or of the world. It has nothing to do with Jewish customs and traditions but how we may be perfected as men of God. Jesus showed us that it is doable. How God framed the worlds by his word we are also born of his word. It is the only pattern we need follow in our personal lives. As you and I are created and are answerable to God alone let us serve him with fear and trembling. How others fare let them beware. God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the Word outside. Calamities, plagues genocides are all out there. But God is in charge. Hallelujah.
Gerald,
If there is anything you would like to discuss, I am completely open for friendly discussion. I read through your message a few more times but I am still unable to understand your main point. One thing that I can tell you is that I have told anyone, nor will I ever tell anyone that they cannot fully understand the scriptures without going to the "original texts" to get a right understanding. It would be wrong for me to say this. The things I am sharing under the heading "Biblical Greek Perspectives" are simply from my own personal studies. I completely agree with you that it takes God's Spirit to reveal the truth to us. Even if we had no written bibles, God's Spirit can still minister the truth about God to our hearts.
Giannis,
I wanted to say thank you for the two-part post you recently sent me but soon after removed. Please, I don't wish to know why you removed them, but I did receive them in my email and after reading through what you sent, I just wanted to thank you for the information. You have been very helpful in my studies, and I can't thank you enough.
Blessings to you all in Christ Jesus!
Yes I removed my posts because I decided not to intervene at all any more in other brothers' work. Some brothers do get insulted or upset when someone else tells them a different thing than what they consider as right, maybe I would have felt the same myself if I were in their shoes. Actually my intention was not to intervene in your posts but to say what I know when I see that some other brothers disagree or ask for further explanations, like Gerald did. Also like Chris did in the past.
Thanks for your good words brother. May God bless you more.
Now the question is. Is the right interpretation of the scripture crucial for us christians? Sometimes a more accurate translation does not add much (or not at all really) to our knowledge and benefit of our souls. Example. If "phileo" and "agapao" are the same or somewhere near in meaning does not have any effect in our salvation. But there are few cases that a translation can lead to wrong beliefs. I believe we should mainly focus on those verses (this does not mean that I reject your work). Also our faith does not rely on a single verse but on the entire Bible. And if a verse seemingly is in contrast to others, if we search the scriptures carefuly we will eventually come to the right conclusion. As I see it the Bible is like a puzzle. If one wants to have the right image about something they must firstly find and pick up all the relevant pieces/verses from throughout the Bible and put them together. And this takes time and study, it can not be done overnight. The less pieces one puts the less accurate image one has. And if the pieces are not enough at all, then the green thing we see may be a green field or a green rocket, we can make it anything we like. I believe this is how wrong doctrines emmerge.
And definitely we need the Holy Spirit to intreprete the scriptures to us, especially the prophesies. GBU
Study in Greek or Hebrew certainly helps us understand the text but in order to grow spiritually we must take the hints from the Spirit and helps us in our infirmities so we may follow according to the Will of him who sealed us with his Spirit according to his purpose. In big strokes what are we considering in the Bible but our salvation which is being bonded to Jesus Christ from everlasting to everlasting. So as a new creation we are from the beginning. It is thus the Bible opens. In the beginning. How we were born but from the incorruptible seed. (1 Pe.1:23). So John's Gospel begins with, In the beginning' Thus we have a birth according to the will of flesh and blood. New birth is according to the Will of God. It is for this He sent his Son and we are called and we are blessed and it is what the everlasting covenant in the Ge. ch.1 is all about. The Bible is not about tribes, nations or of the world. It has nothing to do with Jewish customs and traditions but how we may be perfected as men of God. Jesus showed us that it is doable. How God framed the worlds by his word we are also born of his word. It is the only pattern we need follow in our personal lives. As you and I are created and are answerable to God alone let us serve him with fear and trembling. How others fare let them beware. God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the Word outside. Calamities, plagues genocides are all out there. But God is in charge. Hallelujah.
Please read the line: God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the Word outside,"
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"God is in control that holds true for us and holds true for the world outside."
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