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  • AaronR - 2 months ago
    Revelations 13:18 Wisdom is needed here. Let the one with understanding solve the meaning of the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.fn His number is 666

    What do you think this number means?
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 months ago
    AaronR,

    Personally, I think the number refers to Satan's version of the trinity. As you may know, there are many books out there adding up people's names, putting numerical equivalence to alphabet numbers, and adding up people's names to be six hundred and sixty-six. This has been going on for a long time. People adding up name and saying so and so could be the antichrist.

    Everything I've studied in Revelation Chapter 13 is telling me that there is Satan's trinity (if you would). The dragon, the antichrist, and the false prophet are the shadows of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

    Now if you notice, and this is how I understand this portion of Revelation, it says "Let him that understands count the number of the beast. And notice this: For it is the number of man, not "a man," not "the man," just man. Our English bible says, "a man," but it is just man in the Greek text.

    Here's what I see:

    Adam was created on the sixth day. Six is the number that is one less than perfection or completeness. So, all the way through scripture it was the number of man. Man was created by God, but he falls short of completeness because he's a sinner. He says for it is the number of man; and his number is 666, not six hundred and sixty-six. You see, it's the number six three times. It's the number of man, and each six stands for one of the three in Satan's trinity. It doesn't add up to six hundred and sixty-six. It's six three times!

    And that's the number that a person must take to function in the one world government that's about to come to pass here on the earth.
  • AaronR - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Thank you I never heard of that before, satans trinity that's interesting I will be looking more into that. Thanks for giving me something else to keep my mind busy
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hi AaronR

    One sure thing it means is whoever receives it their reward will be the lake of fire. There are many speculations on the mark and the number 666. Some say it was about Nero the Hebrew name for him numerically adds to 666, some say it will be a Pope whose title is Vicarious Filii Dei, meaning Vicar of the Son of God this in Latin numerically adds up to 666, and others.

    If we are here, we will know exactly what it is and those who take it will do it willingly, there are things God has not revealed. A smaller but similar picture of what is to come has happened in the past. Decius/Decian persecution in 250 AD, a decree that Christians had to prove their loyalty to paganism and the emperor, ordered those sacrifices to idols be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate. It was a signed and witnessed certificate issued not a mark.

    Many Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, and many others apostatized/falling away and performed the ceremonies thinking they could still be a Christian in secret. Others went into hiding. The Decian persecution was the severest on Christians at that time and the loss suffered by the apostasy/falling away. What is coming will be much more severe and worldwide.

    When the beast rises, we will know but until then there are a plethora of suggestions and guesses without a true answer. We just need to be strong in our faith, ready even if we face death, Revelation 2:11.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • AaronR - In Reply - 2 months ago
    I like what you said and yes there are many beliefs on what the number means. I kind of got my own belief on it.

    We are created in the image of God, God consists of 3 so we are also 3.. body soul and spirit ( 1thessalonians 5:23) in the beginning Adam was perfect until he ate of the fruit which gave him a dead spirit , also we are all dead in spirit until we come into a relationship with Christ and He gives us His Holy Spirit , if you aren't saved your body is alive your soul is alive but your spirit is dead, so if you are body soul and spirit and if one part of you is dead that makes you 2/3 of a man and 2/3 in decimal form is .666

    The 3 six's means continually.

    And until you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and repent (have a change of mind)

    You won't have the Holy Spirit inside you , I believe this is the mark, it's a mark only Jesus and His angels can see, demons can see it to they know when the Holy Spirit is inside of a person so I believe this is the mark. So basically I don't believe us humans will be able to notice the mark with our human eyes.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hi AaronR,

    Thank you, I have not seen or heard that opinion, I just believe the meaning of it is without an answer until it is revealed. One thing we do know if you do not take the mark, whatever this mark is, you cannot buy or sell, so it must be visible, Revelation 13:17.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Thebigbadwolf - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Not true....the mark could be placed underneath the skin by way of an electronic chip enabling a scanner reader when making a purchase, (this is active now in Sweden for some time) this could also be used as an entry system for access to key establishments such as chemists, supermarkets, hospitals, bank accounts #mobile app access... etc..However it will be used it will not be good, full control of the masses is the agenda, only our faith will prevail, the strong minded will survive so many will cave in.....even those who say they are a devout Christian will fall to the beast system. We will be tested, this is for sure.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hey Thebigbadwolf,

    Thank you for your reply, this is true, whatever this mark will be whether it is an electronic chip, a barcode, or whatever it is it will have to be shown. A first-class ticket to the lake of fire. The same as the Decian persecution in 250 AD done by Emperor Decius, many were killed or died in prison but the ones who apostatized had to show a certificate. As you said it will not be good, it will be a worldwide tribulation this world has not seen, Matthew 24:21.

    We must be strong in our faith, many will be deceived and many will die, there is a verse I believe is about when this happens we will be given the strength to not take this mark, it is Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Our strength is in Jesus we must put on the full armor of God Ephesians 6:10-18.

    We must take to heart what Jesus said in Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. this is what is coming, and many will fall away/apostatize.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • AaronR - In Reply - 2 months ago
    You know you are right I didn't even pay much attention. I was focused on that one verse! That's what happens when you don't read in context. Thank you for that


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