If the 12 tribes are still around and truly under the Law of Moses do they need to be have numbered?
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Bennymkje, they are numbered in Revelation so there won't be no mistake who John is identifying.
You asked, Isn't circumcision is a sign for them? As with Seth stepping in to fill the void of Abel so many number of Christians from the left out church redeem themselves.
Yes, circumcision is a sign for them.
But, Seth stepping in to fill the void of Abel has nothing to do with them showing up in Revelation.
The message is the sacrifice by faith.
As for the tribes being lost
in James 1:1 it seems they are not lost, nor were they ever lost.
"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
However Bennymkje, neither of these topics answers Tdianne's question.
"Where does it says no one but the 144,000 goes to Heaven.
I answered Tidianne. The significance is in line with many other instances in the Bible w.r.t the Gospel of GodIf you read my answer you may perhaps get it. As I said earlier "John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." I said my piece and I rest.
The number is the church, the body of Christ, the holy city of God. Length breadth and height are equal. Twelve thousand furlongs. (Re.21:16-17) Don't use furlongs as we measure here. "according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.". This is what each saint measures in Christ. How many shall fit in the city? Think of spiritual bodies, each saint is in Christ and in his glory shall fill? The Spirit used a tag to indicate the body, that is all. ,
You asked,
If the 12 tribes are still around and truly under the Law of Moses do they need to be have numbered?
End quote
Bennymkje, they are numbered in Revelation so there won't be no mistake who John is identifying.
You asked, Isn't circumcision is a sign for them? As with Seth stepping in to fill the void of Abel so many number of Christians from the left out church redeem themselves.
Yes, circumcision is a sign for them.
But, Seth stepping in to fill the void of Abel has nothing to do with them showing up in Revelation.
The message is the sacrifice by faith.
As for the tribes being lost
in James 1:1 it seems they are not lost, nor were they ever lost.
"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
However Bennymkje, neither of these topics answers Tdianne's question.
"Where does it says no one but the 144,000 goes to Heaven.
God bless.
I answered Tidianne. The significance is in line with many other instances in the Bible w.r.t the Gospel of GodIf you read my answer you may perhaps get it. As I said earlier "John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." I said my piece and I rest.
I read your reply before I sent my reply,
I didn't see an answer.
Thanks and God bless.
The number is the church, the body of Christ, the holy city of God. Length breadth and height are equal. Twelve thousand furlongs. (Re.21:16-17) Don't use furlongs as we measure here. "according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.". This is what each saint measures in Christ. How many shall fit in the city? Think of spiritual bodies, each saint is in Christ and in his glory shall fill? The Spirit used a tag to indicate the body, that is all. ,
My goal was to get my answer out to Tdianne. I did that and now I'm moving on.
We will have to agree to disagree.
I hope you are able to do that.
God bless.
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