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  • Jesse - 8 months ago
    Predestination

    (Part 3):

    Here's the best way that I can explain what I'm talking about. If you were going to go in and apply for a job, one of the things you want to know is what are the benefits, what you have predestined for the person that's going to take that spot. What kind of dental care do you have? What kind of health benefits do you have? What's the pay going to be?

    All of these things are predestined ahead of time for the person that's offered the job and accepts the job. So, if I walk in and I give my interview and they say we want you to work here and we want you to do this job if you are willing to do it, and I accept, I have all of these benefits waiting for me. They're mine!

    And that is the presentation that Paul always makes, is that we are inheritors in Christ. And before the foundation of the world, things were chosen and predestined for us, that is, everybody that is saved.

    Predestination in the bible never has anything to do with predestinating people for Heaven or Hell. It's never used that way. But people will say "Having predestinated us," and they stop right there! They say things like, "You see, I'm one of the "us" because I got predestined to be an "us."

    That's not what it says. He's talking to saved people, not unsaved people. Every single time the word predestinated is used in the scriptures, it always makes reference to part of our inheritance in Christ, the things He predestined ahead of time for those who receive Him.

    If He did not choose me and predestine me to be holy and without blame before Him in His love, I'd never be able to stand before Him. But I've received Christ as part of my inheritance.

    I'm not saying that scholars like Calvin and some of the others are wrong. I can see in their presentations/arguments over the years that they did the best with what they had.

    But we can now diagram and do a schematic of the whole chapter and show where the antecedents are and the we's and us's.

    It's always the saved people!



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