I know the Bible is Symbolic and in many areas must be interpreted. But the best way to understand God's Word is to take it as literal as possible. When it says You can have Your Name Removed from the Lamb's Book of Life . That's what it means. It doesn't make a clause for Church goers, those who confessed Christ or knelt at a Alter . I can Accept The Mercy and Grace and Salvation of Jesus Christ and then be like Paul said . I could walk out of that Salvation and be a Reject of God. A goat on the Left . Even after I have been active in the Church, held positions, had a respect of others, tithed, Preached to Others. I still have to Die Daily . There are going to be so many that They get so close to The Things of Heaven. They will look in and Miss This Thing. Ask Judas Iscariot. If You Miss The Rapture You have Missed Everything.There are so many in ministry today adding and taking away from the Bible. God warned constantly of False Prophets in the Old Testament and the New doesn't cut any slack either. Grace has raised the standards . Man doesn't have a license to Sin and rise to meet Christ in the air. Your Salvation is Secure and Eternal when I or You get there . There are a 100 Verses in The New Testament alone that destroys the " Once Saved always Saved , live any Ol way ) This is the same Spirit that sat on Israel when They Blasphemed God . And it is hard to find a Minister that will warn People how real Hell really is . And how We cannot Afford to neglect so Great a Salvation. Jesus is Coming like a Thief in the Night. But there is Good News So We Must Always Remember that ALL WHO CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED. AMEN
" the best way to understand God's Word is to take it as literal as possible. When it says You can have Your Name Removed from the Lamb's Book of Life . That's what it means."
"I could walk out of that Salvation and be a Reject of God."
"There are a 100 Verses in The New Testament alone that destroys the " Once Saved always Saved , live any Ol way )"
One is SAVED from death, by the resurrection of Christ.
Christ is the resurrection.
Christ is the LIFE, Christ is the book.
So everyone HAS BEEN SAVED from death, else Christ would have to die and be resurrected a second time.
Now it's down to BELIEF, you either believe you were made ONE FLESH with Christ by his resurrection, believing by faith,without seeing with physical eyes.
If one does not believe by faith, he will not take part in the first resurrection, he will have his name removed from LIFE.
He will lay in the grave till the second resurrection.
Salvation is being SAVED from DEATH.
Everyone will at some point be saved from DEATH.
Then comes JUDGEMENT.
Psalms 149:5 Let the saints be joyful on glory:
Psalms 149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword (the word) in their hand:
Psalms 149:7 To execute vengeance upon the nations, and punishment upon the people,
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written: THIS HONOUR HATH ALL HIS SAINTS.
Everyone will be SAVED: from death.
You will either be a JUDGE or will be the ONE JUDGED, when CHRIST raises all the UNBELIEVERS.
Knowledge is coming to understand the RESURRECTION.
I agree with most of what you said except your "once saved always saved" interpretation. John 10:28 says "And I gave them eternal life and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand". So isn't the issue who is REALLY saved and if so, only God knows.
You are absolutely right. No Man can pluck Me out of God's Hand . No King or President, terrorist, theorist, atheist, no army , no foreign threat, no doctrinal beliefs, or even death. But I can walk out of My Salvation. Jesus said Fear not Him which has power over the Body , to actually kill You. But Fear Him, God which has Power over the Body and Soul afterwards. I love that Verse where Christ chose 12 and gave them Power to cast out Devils and to heal sickness except for Judas Iscariot. Oh wait ,, hold on that Verse doesn't exist . And Jesus said Satan can't cast out Satan or His Kingdom is divided. At the Last Supper the Bible says Satan entered into Judas Iscariot. How did the Devil enter into a Place He is already at ? How can I be at Someone's home right now when Im sitting here ? I would have to depart ,, Amen. When Satan entered into Judas Iscariot then The Salvation of God departed . The same way that That the Spirit of The Lord departed from King Saul. A King annointed, chosen, gifted physically, given People anointed by God as support, a Band of Men. Acts 1 :: says Judas Iscariot died and went to His Own Place . At this very moment He is in Hell , weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. King Saul was told by the Demonic Spirit imitating Samuel the Prophet that tomorrow You will be with Me . Be with Me in Hell for Eternity. Neither was Plucked out by any Man. They Played around with God like The Church at Rome in Romans 1 :: . They became Vain, arrogant, proud and unthankful. They took God for granted. And Paul said ( When They Knew God ) . They were SAVED and Blood bought but now They no longer know God. Nobody can be Plucked Out of God's Hand . In Revelations 2 :: Jesus tells the Church at Ephesus and Every Christian Backsliding. Remember You have fallen and go back and redo Thy Works and repent or lose Your Place . Those Works are The Salvation of Jesus Christ. So it's Possible to Walk away from God .
When John came preaching the Kingdom of God, as the forerunner of Christ, all that was available to understand the Kingdom of God was Moses and the Prophets.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth HIS SECRETS to his servants the Prophets.
Moses and the Prophets is the REVEALING of the Kingdom of God, a kingdom here on earth.
Nowhere in Moses and the Prophets does it say the reward of the righteous is Heaven, nor nowhere does it say the reward of the wicked is HELL.
What it does say is the wicked shall be JUDGED by the righteous.
The wages of sin is DEATH.
Christ came and he and all creation was crucified for the sins of the world.
Christ died for us in the sense we did not have to suffer the wrath of God poured out on him.
But we died just as he die.
Only Christ arose and we as joint heirs with Christ, SAVED from ever dying again.
But there are two kinds of people in this world, believers and unbelievers, symbolised by the two malefactors crucified with Christ, one believed, one did not believe, one went to the presence of God, the other went to the grave to await the second resurrection.
The Believers WERE SAVED at the first resurrection: believing they were resurrected as ONE FLESH with Christ.
The unbelievers will DIE and go to the GRAVE, and await the second resurrection, and will be judged and ruled over by the BELIEVERS of God's word.
The reference in Moses and the Prophets is they will be the wood choppers and water haulers, and they will bow the knee.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I WILL MAKE THEM of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews (circumcised in the heart) and are not, but do lie, behold, I WILL MAKE THEM come and worship before thy feet, and TO KNOW that I have love thee
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of CREATION WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons of God,
Romans 8:21 For creation itself ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED from the bongage of corruption ......
Today, and foe many years now, Preachers don't preach and acknowledge the truth about sin, and everlasting hell, and they are leading their congregations straight down the wide path to hell! Matthew 25:41James 3:1
We MUST fear God! This is the very beginning of knowledge. Proverbs 1:7
God is Vengeful and He tells us so. Hell is God's way of getting His vengeance. Isaiah 47:3
God knows us better than we could ever imagine. He knows, that if we have NO FEAR to motivate us to change our ways, we will continue in sin. God is also Love. He sacrificed his Son for us so thru Him we can recieved forgivness. He provides His Holy Spirit to break the bonds of sin. Preachers are not helping anyone by not preaching Hell and the fear of God!
If we are still repeatedly sinning..we DO NOT have God's Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:26 God's Holy Spirit will not let us habitually sin.
Today, most so called Christian Pastors/Preachers are about the money. They don't want to focus on the sin in their congregation, if they do, they will lose their entire congregation. Sinners don't want to hear they are sinners, and they certainly don't want to think or hear about hell, they come to church to feel good about themselves and to be entertained. Churches today are all about making everyone feel good. Sad but true.
Which reminds me of this very powerful verse 2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
Doing the will of God is the key. "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven./Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?/And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."(Matt.7:21-23) Being founded on the rock or abiding in Christ is the way we do the will of God. The works of God as Jesus explained is to believe in him. "Of God Jesus has become wisdom (1 Co.1:30)
I fully agree with your position. What is symbolic generally applies to the Will of God. (The world unseen made to appear). Thus the slain Lamb ("the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world",-Re.13:8) is an emblem. Consequently we the same as sign, fulfillment of it is in Jesus Christ. "Behold the Lamb of the world" The expression 'Behold' emphasizes the word connection. In the eternity it is a composite image of the Throne of God and of the Lamb. (Re.22:1).The Will requires no correction whatsoever. Symbol is "I am the Life" literally embodied in the believer (died to the world in terms of its appetites and outward pomp and circumstance)
Where Jesus made manifest it must be literally followed. For instance, "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me" Matt. 11:28-29 'The yoke is not literal' but abiding in Christ means there is a caveat, "You cannot serve both God and man"; You cannot deny him etc.,. By the same token, "And I will give you rest," is with regards to our souls. This can only be taken in faith. He.11:3 There are no buts and ifs between these two worlds, faith is the only lingua franca.
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Absolutely right! Thank you!
" the best way to understand God's Word is to take it as literal as possible. When it says You can have Your Name Removed from the Lamb's Book of Life . That's what it means."
"I could walk out of that Salvation and be a Reject of God."
"There are a 100 Verses in The New Testament alone that destroys the " Once Saved always Saved , live any Ol way )"
What are we save from?
One is SAVED from death, by the resurrection of Christ.
Christ is the resurrection.
Christ is the LIFE, Christ is the book.
So everyone HAS BEEN SAVED from death, else Christ would have to die and be resurrected a second time.
Now it's down to BELIEF, you either believe you were made ONE FLESH with Christ by his resurrection, believing by faith,without seeing with physical eyes.
If one does not believe by faith, he will not take part in the first resurrection, he will have his name removed from LIFE.
He will lay in the grave till the second resurrection.
Salvation is being SAVED from DEATH.
Everyone will at some point be saved from DEATH.
Then comes JUDGEMENT.
Psalms 149:5 Let the saints be joyful on glory:
Psalms 149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword (the word) in their hand:
Psalms 149:7 To execute vengeance upon the nations, and punishment upon the people,
Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written: THIS HONOUR HATH ALL HIS SAINTS.
Everyone will be SAVED: from death.
You will either be a JUDGE or will be the ONE JUDGED, when CHRIST raises all the UNBELIEVERS.
Knowledge is coming to understand the RESURRECTION.
God Bless YOU!
Reverend Michael Ray Dorsey
When John came preaching the Kingdom of God, as the forerunner of Christ, all that was available to understand the Kingdom of God was Moses and the Prophets.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth HIS SECRETS to his servants the Prophets.
Moses and the Prophets is the REVEALING of the Kingdom of God, a kingdom here on earth.
Nowhere in Moses and the Prophets does it say the reward of the righteous is Heaven, nor nowhere does it say the reward of the wicked is HELL.
What it does say is the wicked shall be JUDGED by the righteous.
The wages of sin is DEATH.
Christ came and he and all creation was crucified for the sins of the world.
Christ died for us in the sense we did not have to suffer the wrath of God poured out on him.
But we died just as he die.
Only Christ arose and we as joint heirs with Christ, SAVED from ever dying again.
But there are two kinds of people in this world, believers and unbelievers, symbolised by the two malefactors crucified with Christ, one believed, one did not believe, one went to the presence of God, the other went to the grave to await the second resurrection.
The Believers WERE SAVED at the first resurrection: believing they were resurrected as ONE FLESH with Christ.
The unbelievers will DIE and go to the GRAVE, and await the second resurrection, and will be judged and ruled over by the BELIEVERS of God's word.
The reference in Moses and the Prophets is they will be the wood choppers and water haulers, and they will bow the knee.
Revelation 3:9 Behold, I WILL MAKE THEM of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews (circumcised in the heart) and are not, but do lie, behold, I WILL MAKE THEM come and worship before thy feet, and TO KNOW that I have love thee
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of CREATION WAITETH (in the grave) for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons of God,
Romans 8:21 For creation itself ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED from the bongage of corruption ......
So true, and I agree with much that you said.
Today, and foe many years now, Preachers don't preach and acknowledge the truth about sin, and everlasting hell, and they are leading their congregations straight down the wide path to hell! Matthew 25:41 James 3:1
We MUST fear God! This is the very beginning of knowledge. Proverbs 1:7
God is Vengeful and He tells us so. Hell is God's way of getting His vengeance. Isaiah 47:3
God knows us better than we could ever imagine. He knows, that if we have NO FEAR to motivate us to change our ways, we will continue in sin. God is also Love. He sacrificed his Son for us so thru Him we can recieved forgivness. He provides His Holy Spirit to break the bonds of sin. Preachers are not helping anyone by not preaching Hell and the fear of God!
If we are still repeatedly sinning..we DO NOT have God's Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:26 God's Holy Spirit will not let us habitually sin.
Today, most so called Christian Pastors/Preachers are about the money. They don't want to focus on the sin in their congregation, if they do, they will lose their entire congregation. Sinners don't want to hear they are sinners, and they certainly don't want to think or hear about hell, they come to church to feel good about themselves and to be entertained. Churches today are all about making everyone feel good. Sad but true.
Which reminds me of this very powerful verse 2 Timothy 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
The plain truth is: Sin keeps us from our God!
GBU
I fully agree with your position. What is symbolic generally applies to the Will of God. (The world unseen made to appear). Thus the slain Lamb ("the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world",-Re.13:8) is an emblem. Consequently we the same as sign, fulfillment of it is in Jesus Christ. "Behold the Lamb of the world" The expression 'Behold' emphasizes the word connection. In the eternity it is a composite image of the Throne of God and of the Lamb. (Re.22:1).The Will requires no correction whatsoever. Symbol is "I am the Life" literally embodied in the believer (died to the world in terms of its appetites and outward pomp and circumstance)
Where Jesus made manifest it must be literally followed. For instance, "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me" Matt. 11:28-29 'The yoke is not literal' but abiding in Christ means there is a caveat, "You cannot serve both God and man"; You cannot deny him etc.,. By the same token, "And I will give you rest," is with regards to our souls. This can only be taken in faith. He.11:3 There are no buts and ifs between these two worlds, faith is the only lingua franca.
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