Thank you. Yes, I can see that. And the Jewish betrothal is interesting also. It's sort of like our engagement except during their one year betrothal they are actually considered married.
Blessings to you also my brother. And please know that you and your family have been in my prayers.
I was not saying that Jesse's information about the 7 steps of a Jewish wedding was inaccurate. I believe it is accurate. My reason for saying to be cautious is that of using something extra-biblical to illustrate of interpret Scripture. Some outside information can be good for illustrating a Scripture message, whether anecdotes or information. Other outside information must be wrestled into the Scripture to make the illustration or interpretation "fit together" with the Scripture. I do not think that Jesse's information about the 7 steps is off base at all. I was just pointing out that caution should be used whenever we use extra-biblical information or anecdotes to discuss, illustrate, or interpret Scriptures because the extra-biblical information or anecdote is non Scripture.
I didn't say you said it was unbiblical or inaccurate. I was stating that historically they married that way and some perform that way today.
And all the details models the way we're espoused to Christ.
Whar they perform today is similar because this has been done in ancient times.
One thing they do different is the groom veils the bride to protect them from what happened with Rachel and Leah.
You see portions of this commitment in Jacob, Isaac, and Joseph and Mary.
It was a common custom for the bride to join the groom's father's household, rather than the groom and the bride establishing their own household. So, if the bride and groom were of a marriageable age, the groom would return to his father's house after the betrothal to prepare a bridal chamber. This process traditionally took a year or more (the length of time being dictated by the groom's father). When the place was complete, the groom would return and fetch his bride. The bride would not know the day or hour of her husband-to-be's return, so the groom's arrival was usually announced with a trumpet call and a shout so the bride had some forewarning.
This is what they continue to do and yes it models the rapture.
Jesse, thank you for this interesting information.
I can see how it reflects some things about our Lord and the church.
But, it is with caution that I consider any information that is not taught in Scripture, and I cannot remember reading in the Bible these 7 steps of betrothal and marriage in the Jewish tradition
But nonetheless, it is truly a beautiful tradition. So, again, thank you.
I completely understand the caution. This was something that a pastor had shared with me about 10 years ago. I believe he received this information from a Jewish Rabbi but I cannot confirm that. So yes, caution would be in order. These actual steps are not in the Bible. There are also many other Jewish customs and traditions that cannot be found in the Bible, but learning some of their customs and traditions and seeing how those things line up with scripture I find fascinating. In the future, I will try and be a little more careful on what I share.
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I've run across this in my studies as well.
You see a portion of it in the parable of the 10 Virgins.
The first step I believe is called the Betrothal.
You see a sample of this in
Deuteronomy 20:7.
There is a lesson on sanctification, redemption, ect. ect. in this Jewish wedding ritual as well.
This area of study is rich and profitable.
Thanks and God bless you.
Thank you. Yes, I can see that. And the Jewish betrothal is interesting also. It's sort of like our engagement except during their one year betrothal they are actually considered married.
Blessings to you also my brother. And please know that you and your family have been in my prayers.
Thanks for your prayers Brother Jesse.
God bless you and all you do.
By the way, I received your messages. And I don't think there is a need to take that with cautious saying they Married that way.
What's important is that describes how we are espoused or Betrothaled to Christ.
I hope to elaborate on it further over the weekend.
God bless.
I was not saying that Jesse's information about the 7 steps of a Jewish wedding was inaccurate. I believe it is accurate. My reason for saying to be cautious is that of using something extra-biblical to illustrate of interpret Scripture. Some outside information can be good for illustrating a Scripture message, whether anecdotes or information. Other outside information must be wrestled into the Scripture to make the illustration or interpretation "fit together" with the Scripture. I do not think that Jesse's information about the 7 steps is off base at all. I was just pointing out that caution should be used whenever we use extra-biblical information or anecdotes to discuss, illustrate, or interpret Scriptures because the extra-biblical information or anecdote is non Scripture.
Thanks for explaining.
I didn't say you said it was unbiblical or inaccurate. I was stating that historically they married that way and some perform that way today.
And all the details models the way we're espoused to Christ.
Whar they perform today is similar because this has been done in ancient times.
One thing they do different is the groom veils the bride to protect them from what happened with Rachel and Leah.
You see portions of this commitment in Jacob, Isaac, and Joseph and Mary.
It was a common custom for the bride to join the groom's father's household, rather than the groom and the bride establishing their own household. So, if the bride and groom were of a marriageable age, the groom would return to his father's house after the betrothal to prepare a bridal chamber. This process traditionally took a year or more (the length of time being dictated by the groom's father). When the place was complete, the groom would return and fetch his bride. The bride would not know the day or hour of her husband-to-be's return, so the groom's arrival was usually announced with a trumpet call and a shout so the bride had some forewarning.
This is what they continue to do and yes it models the rapture.
More on this later.
God bless.
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I can see how it reflects some things about our Lord and the church.
But, it is with caution that I consider any information that is not taught in Scripture, and I cannot remember reading in the Bible these 7 steps of betrothal and marriage in the Jewish tradition
But nonetheless, it is truly a beautiful tradition. So, again, thank you.
I completely understand the caution. This was something that a pastor had shared with me about 10 years ago. I believe he received this information from a Jewish Rabbi but I cannot confirm that. So yes, caution would be in order. These actual steps are not in the Bible. There are also many other Jewish customs and traditions that cannot be found in the Bible, but learning some of their customs and traditions and seeing how those things line up with scripture I find fascinating. In the future, I will try and be a little more careful on what I share.
I thought the information interesting and informative as you say.
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