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  • Starbux on 1 Kings 20 - 1 year ago
    The epistles were written to the people that came from the book of Acts. They were the people that were water baptized in Jesus name & received the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 is the gospel. It is the New Testament salvation message.

    Therefore Ephesians 1:13-14 is not written to the world, nor to the sinner UNTIL YOU HAVE OBEYED THE GOSPEL MESSAGE. It is written to the saints that obeyed this gospel.

    We must first read the 4 gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke & John then read the entire book of Acts. Acts is where the church was born.

    So many people say they have the Holy Ghost & they do not. So many people think they are saved & sadly, they are not. Who is teaching you? Who are you listening to?

    The epistles from Romans thru Jude are to be followed once you have obeyed the salvation Acts 2:38.

    You do not receive the Holy Ghost once you believe. It took me close to 3 years to receive the Holy Ghost & with the utterance.

    Acts 19, "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, we have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost".

    Do not jump into the epistles until you have read the beginning of each chapter. The epistles {letters} are written to the born again churches. Written to the saints. They obeyed the gospel which is the death, burial & resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    For example many people preach John 3:16, however you must read the very beginning of John 3 before John 3:16. One verse does not make a doctrine.

    Pray that we will not be deceived. False doctrine is out there.

    Pray for discernment.
  • Jesse - In Reply on 1 Kings 20 - 1 year ago
    It is true what you say that "One verse does not make a doctrine," and yet there is a certain group where a majority of their teachings and doctrine center on one single verse ( Acts 2:38).
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Kings 20 - 1 year ago
    Very well spoken Brother Jesse.
  • Jesse - In Reply on 1 Kings 20 - 1 year ago
    Thanks Brother Spencer,

    I was not intending to create contention. I just don't agree with Acts 2:38 being the New Testament salvation message. Teaching that water baptism is necessary for salvation and that it has to be in Jesus' name only does not line up with scripture. Paul never taught that. Paul had a much different salvation message.

    I have stated my position on water baptism in the past. I do believe water baptism is important, but it comes after salvation, not as a requirement for salvation. In Acts 10:44-48, the Holy Spirit was given before they were water baptized.

    Water baptism is a testimony of our salvation and shows our identification with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection.

    In 1 Corinthians 15:1-2, Paul speaks of the gospel that saves.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Kings 20 - 1 year ago
    Amen and thanks again brother Jesse.

    This is very important for one to understand.

    God bless.



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