I wanted to know if you can lose your "salvation" once you get saved after confessing your sins and accepting that Jesus Christ is lord and believing that he die on the cross for the world sins? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------What are the commandments or how many of them that were from the old testament over to the new testament live by?
This is one of those questions that gets asked a lot. As to whether or not a person can lose their salvation, some say yes and some say no. Both sides present scripture to support their view and oftentimes accuse those who disagree with their view as taking scripture out of context. Both sides pick out verses that support their view.
I can only speak for myself when I say that I am completely secure in my salvation. My salvation cannot be lost. The first question I have to ask myself is am I really saved? The Bible says that all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. It doesn't say they might be saved. It is a promise to those who truly and with a sincere heart call upon Jesus to save them.
Again, I can only speak for myself. Jesus Christ has saved me. He has sealed me with His Spirit. And He has promised to never leave me. That's where I find my comfort and security. It's in Christ. When it comes to salvation, a person has to decide who they are going to trust. Are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? Or, are they trusting in Jesus Christ, the one who has promised to never leave us, and the one who will keep us saved until the day of redemption, the day He comes to redeem His purchased possession.
I know who I am trusting. If I'm counting on myself to keep myself saved, I will fail. There's only one whom I can trust to keep me saved.
MG, you will have to decide for yourself who you are going to trust for your own salvation, Christ or yourself?
Further clarification would demonstrate that in Christ we are truly fulfilling the law. The law itself could not validate a death sentence for thinking about fornication or adultery; or murder but in the heart it showed that it was worthy of spiritual judgment leading eventually to eternal death. Philippians 2:13 shows that God gives us the WILL (sorry about the shouting just emphasizing stuff here) to obey. We cannot love the law as the Psalmist spends all 172 verses of the longest Psalm (119) describing in the flesh as the flesh and spirit are in emnity. In the flesh we cannot obey as Romans 8:8 and other scriptures indicate.
Again; the ceremonial laws Christ Himself deliberately allowed to be broken (such as eating heads of grain on the Sabbath Day). He also corrected the Pharisees as to what "work" truly involved; showing that mercy was more important than blind legalism by healing on the Sabbath repeatedly.
In some sense then the New Covenant or more superior one abrogated the old ( Hebrews 9:15). Even the Old Testament allowed for God's grace to stand above judgment; for instance with David's sin with Bathsheeba that involved adultery and being complicit to murder. These were death sentence penalties according to the law. God also had a greater plan since His lineage came from the line of David. Notwithstanding this; however there was collateral damage such as the loss of the child (who David would see someday in heaven); as well as enemies being a constant thorn in the side.
Our sin is a serious matter; Paul warned the Corinthians about taking communion unworthily ( 1 Cor. 11:27); as well as in the book of Acts Ananias and Sapphira were killed because they lied to the Holy Spirit. We can then be saved but taken out early; if we are saved. Those who continue in an unrepentant LIFESTYLE of sin likely aren't saved as there is no conviction of the Spirit; or new heart showing genuine conversion. We must not only know the truth but LOVE it.
Ephesians 1:13-14 states that we are sealed withe Spirit unto the day of redemption. Notwithstanding this; it is not a mere verbal statement that assures salvation. Therefore to those TRULY born again; indeed they are saved in a "once saved always saved" way. We all have as evidence of genuine faith a need to REPENT (turn from sin); but God actually GIVES us the desire to repent through the GIFT of repentance ( Acts 5:31; etal). It is more doctrinally sound to say that GOD elects or chooses those who will become adopted sons or inherited into the Kingdom ( Colossians 1:13; Romans 8:22-23). We must confess with our mouths; of course but that comes along with belief in the heart ( Romans 10:9). Those who are saved because they LOVE God they keep His commandments ( John 14:15). Those who are saved will bear fruit ( John 15:2). The surrounding scriptures and parable of the sower show that a person must pass through the temptations of the world and be proven to be true sons ( Hebrews 12:8). Those who are true believers are chastised as He does with all those He loves. The fruit of the Spirit eventually manifests; and God continues to prune (or sanctify) us to produce MORE fruit. The others fall away eventually to the world; flesh and devil; only God can save us from ourselves and these forces which are blinding those who don't know the Lord ( 2 Cor. 4:4).
The 10 Commandments therefore are still in force today; but we are unable to follow with the MORE stringent matters of the heart which only again comes from the Spirit. Without this there is an outward obedience only. The only thing which has changed is the Sabbath Day; and I would say that Matthew 12:8 answers this by placing Sunday as the day of rest. This is also the only command that was peculiar to the nation of Israel; rather than universal law which clearly as shown with John the Baptist in matters of divorce holding for pagans as well. Other ceremonial rules changed with Peter's vision in Acts 10.
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
Luke 12:5
John 14:15
James 2:14-26
Romans 6:1-2
Hebrews 6:4-6
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
Matthew 12:31-32
1 Corinthians 15:2-8
Hebrews 3:12
Romans 11
The Bible answers this question quite clearly. Some are trying to use human logic through cherrypicking and misinterpreting a couple verses instead of simply believing God's truth through the whole Bible. Satan wants people to assume they have an insurance policy and license to commit unlimited sin and do whatever they want.
Does the Bible even say you're instantly "saved" when you start to believe, or does it say that you can have hope of salvation and assurance of salvation if you are a genuine follower until the "end" on the day of judgment? Let's see if the Bible says "now" or in the "end"...
Matthew 24:13
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
1 Peter 1:5
- "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
1 Peter 1:13
"...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
Hebrews 10:36
"For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
This is one of those questions that gets asked a lot. As to whether or not a person can lose their salvation, some say yes and some say no. Both sides present scripture to support their view and oftentimes accuse those who disagree with their view as taking scripture out of context. Both sides pick out verses that support their view.
I can only speak for myself when I say that I am completely secure in my salvation. My salvation cannot be lost. The first question I have to ask myself is am I really saved? The Bible says that all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. It doesn't say they might be saved. It is a promise to those who truly and with a sincere heart call upon Jesus to save them.
Again, I can only speak for myself. Jesus Christ has saved me. He has sealed me with His Spirit. And He has promised to never leave me. That's where I find my comfort and security. It's in Christ. When it comes to salvation, a person has to decide who they are going to trust. Are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? Or, are they trusting in Jesus Christ, the one who has promised to never leave us, and the one who will keep us saved until the day of redemption, the day He comes to redeem His purchased possession.
I know who I am trusting. If I'm counting on myself to keep myself saved, I will fail. There's only one whom I can trust to keep me saved.
MG, you will have to decide for yourself who you are going to trust for your own salvation, Christ or yourself?
Again; the ceremonial laws Christ Himself deliberately allowed to be broken (such as eating heads of grain on the Sabbath Day). He also corrected the Pharisees as to what "work" truly involved; showing that mercy was more important than blind legalism by healing on the Sabbath repeatedly.
In some sense then the New Covenant or more superior one abrogated the old ( Hebrews 9:15). Even the Old Testament allowed for God's grace to stand above judgment; for instance with David's sin with Bathsheeba that involved adultery and being complicit to murder. These were death sentence penalties according to the law. God also had a greater plan since His lineage came from the line of David. Notwithstanding this; however there was collateral damage such as the loss of the child (who David would see someday in heaven); as well as enemies being a constant thorn in the side.
Our sin is a serious matter; Paul warned the Corinthians about taking communion unworthily ( 1 Cor. 11:27); as well as in the book of Acts Ananias and Sapphira were killed because they lied to the Holy Spirit. We can then be saved but taken out early; if we are saved. Those who continue in an unrepentant LIFESTYLE of sin likely aren't saved as there is no conviction of the Spirit; or new heart showing genuine conversion. We must not only know the truth but LOVE it.
The 10 Commandments therefore are still in force today; but we are unable to follow with the MORE stringent matters of the heart which only again comes from the Spirit. Without this there is an outward obedience only. The only thing which has changed is the Sabbath Day; and I would say that Matthew 12:8 answers this by placing Sunday as the day of rest. This is also the only command that was peculiar to the nation of Israel; rather than universal law which clearly as shown with John the Baptist in matters of divorce holding for pagans as well. Other ceremonial rules changed with Peter's vision in Acts 10.
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."
Luke 12:5
John 14:15
James 2:14-26
Romans 6:1-2
Hebrews 6:4-6
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
Matthew 12:31-32
1 Corinthians 15:2-8
Hebrews 3:12
Romans 11
The Bible answers this question quite clearly. Some are trying to use human logic through cherrypicking and misinterpreting a couple verses instead of simply believing God's truth through the whole Bible. Satan wants people to assume they have an insurance policy and license to commit unlimited sin and do whatever they want.
Does the Bible even say you're instantly "saved" when you start to believe, or does it say that you can have hope of salvation and assurance of salvation if you are a genuine follower until the "end" on the day of judgment? Let's see if the Bible says "now" or in the "end"...
Matthew 24:13
"But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
1 Peter 1:5
- "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
1 Peter 1:13
"...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
Hebrews 10:36
"For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
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