Hi Kathy , the best place to look for the answers to all your questions is defo the Bible . If you haven't yet read it please do , im sure you will enjoy it and possibly be very surprised by some of the things you will discover in there , for example , you might discover that it doesn't say anywhere that people go to heaven , Jesus did but I believe he was a very special case , Acts Ch 4 V 1+2 and 1st Thessalonians Ch 4 V 13-18 . There are very many verses that speak of humans being resurrected at the return of Christ and us dwelling on earth with Christ after his return and our resurrection . I can't find one verse that plainly states that we will live in heaven with God and Jesus . Please don't take my word for any of this , I urge you to read the Bible for yourself with an open heart and mind , much love to you in Christ .
Always enjoy your posts, and I hope you don't mind me offing some clarification here regarding scripture that specifically states that we can enter into Heaven, the same Kingdom of Heaven where Jesus/God reside.
Jesus tells us below that if we do God's will, we can enter into the "Kingdom of Heaven."
Matthew 7:21
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Dear Bro Dan , may God bless you , I always enjoy your posts too . What is the Kingdom of Heaven / the Kingdom of God ? There are very many verses that pertain to it , I'm on my way out the door so I only have time for one : Acts Ch 3 V 29+30 . Where was David's throne ? I'm so sorry I don't have time now but I promise I shall do better in about 12 hours smiley face , watch this space , much love in Christ .
God bless you ELB , it astonishes me how so many verses seem to be completely ignored by so many people , people don't want to believe what it actually says , I don't know why this happens but it worries me . Much love to you in Christ .
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast in to the sea, and a THIRD PART of the sea became blood.
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters (seas) which thou sawest, where the whore setteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of a mountain made without hands ....
Hebrews 12:22 But you are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, and unto a company of innumerable angels.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Psalms 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits, his ministers a flaming fire.
Exodus 7:17 Thus saith the Lord, In this thou shall know that I am the LORD, Behold, I will smite with the rod that is in thine hand the waters (peoples, nations) that are in the river, and they shall turn into blood.
Revelation 8:9 And the THIRD PART of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the THIRD PART of the SHIPS were destroyed.
Psalms 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, which thou hast made to play therein.
Isaiah 27:1 In that the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword (the word of God) shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan, that crooked serpent, and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Revelation 13:10 And he that leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity, and he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Revelation 20:4 .....and the souls (mines of flesh) that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus .....
Suze... I love ya but let me give ya my feelings on Acts 2 : 29....Peter is not saying that David is not going to Heaven...Peter was just trying to tell all those folks that David was not the one who David was prophesing about....Peter was trying to tell them that the Prophesy of DAVID'S soul not left in Hell is just prophetic that its Christ's soul that was not left in hell etc,...Its Christs soul that wd not see corruption....Not DAVID ...In fact most of all Davids Prophesies were really about Christ....That special Son that was to come out of Davids loins was really prophetic about the H.G. that Child of Promise that wd come out of Christ loins...his seed etc..His breath etc...Christ's words are his seeds etc..
.....David that great man of God will be in Heaven but he is not that great king that will rule over the house of Israel forever...As David had prophesed about as being himself....The bible just uses DAVID as symbolic language for Christ that great King that will reign over the house of Israel forever....But there is an element of truth in DAVIDS Prophesy....THere was a great king that came out of DAVIDS LOINS which was Solomon that was to reign in Jerusalem forever...But its the H.G. the Comforter the Child of PROMISE that is gonna come outta of Christ loins (his seed ) that is gonna rule in NEW JERUSALEM The kingdom in our hearts for ever.
.....Thats what Peter was trying to tell them in Acts 2 : 29 ...David was just prophetic of Christ and Solomon was just prophetic of the H.G. that is gona build that great temple in our hearts...As our bodies are the temple of the H.G..Abide in me and i in you....Thats y Jesus said a greater then Solomon is Here..
.....An external kingdom wd be no threat to Satan...It has to be internal, simply b/c our warfare is in internal....His enemy is our carnal minds thus the kingdom has to be with in us....In order for God to make his enemy (our carnal minds ) his footstool.. 1ST COR 6: 19 Your body is the temple OF H.G.
At Christ Resurrection, David received the promise of immortal life, he has become the SEED, now he is planting SEED as is Christ.
David the SEED has no need of a PLACE called (literal) HEAVEN, man doctrine.
Isaiah 6:13 But yet in it (the land, earth) shall be a tenth, and it (the tenth, the offering to the Lord in righteousness) shall return (first resurrection), and shall be eaten: as a teil tree and as an oak, whose substance IS IN THEM, when they cast their leaves, the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.
Revelation 22:2 ....and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Do we agree that the OLD SAINTS were raised with Christ, let me know if we don't, and we will look to the scriptures for the answer.
Always enjoy your posts, and I hope you don't mind me offing some clarification here regarding scripture that specifically states that we can enter into Heaven, the same Kingdom of Heaven where Jesus/God reside.
Jesus tells us below that if we do God's will, we can enter into the "Kingdom of Heaven."
Matthew 7:21
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
So yes, we should be striving for this reward!
God Bless.
Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a KINGDOM OF PRIEST, and a holy nation. These are the words ye shall speak to the children of Israel.
God bless You!
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast in to the sea, and a THIRD PART of the sea became blood.
Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters (seas) which thou sawest, where the whore setteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of a mountain made without hands ....
Hebrews 12:22 But you are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, and unto a company of innumerable angels.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Psalms 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirits, his ministers a flaming fire.
Exodus 7:17 Thus saith the Lord, In this thou shall know that I am the LORD, Behold, I will smite with the rod that is in thine hand the waters (peoples, nations) that are in the river, and they shall turn into blood.
God Bless You!
I happens because it was prophecied to happen.
Ezekiel 5:1-5
Zechariah 13:9
All the verses in Revelation that takes about the third part of man.
These are the called out, to be priest and judges.
Romans 8:19-21
Colossians 1:27 .....THIS MYSTERY ......Christ In YOU ......
Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the HOLY PLACE made with hands, but into HEAVEN ITSELF .....
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you, heaven itself) that worketh in you both to will and to do his good pleasure.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
God Bless YOU; his body.
As the father and I are ONE, that they may be ONE with us.
Revelation 8:9 And the THIRD PART of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the THIRD PART of the SHIPS were destroyed.
Psalms 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, which thou hast made to play therein.
Isaiah 27:1 In that the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword (the word of God) shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan, that crooked serpent, and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
Revelation 13:10 And he that leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity, and he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Revelation 20:4 .....and the souls (mines of flesh) that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus .....
God Bless You!
.....David that great man of God will be in Heaven but he is not that great king that will rule over the house of Israel forever...As David had prophesed about as being himself....The bible just uses DAVID as symbolic language for Christ that great King that will reign over the house of Israel forever....But there is an element of truth in DAVIDS Prophesy....THere was a great king that came out of DAVIDS LOINS which was Solomon that was to reign in Jerusalem forever...But its the H.G. the Comforter the Child of PROMISE that is gonna come outta of Christ loins (his seed ) that is gonna rule in NEW JERUSALEM The kingdom in our hearts for ever.
.....Thats what Peter was trying to tell them in Acts 2 : 29 ...David was just prophetic of Christ and Solomon was just prophetic of the H.G. that is gona build that great temple in our hearts...As our bodies are the temple of the H.G..Abide in me and i in you....Thats y Jesus said a greater then Solomon is Here..
.....An external kingdom wd be no threat to Satan...It has to be internal, simply b/c our warfare is in internal....His enemy is our carnal minds thus the kingdom has to be with in us....In order for God to make his enemy (our carnal minds ) his footstool.. 1ST COR 6: 19 Your body is the temple OF H.G.
I believe both you and Suze are right.
At Christ Resurrection, David received the promise of immortal life, he has become the SEED, now he is planting SEED as is Christ.
David the SEED has no need of a PLACE called (literal) HEAVEN, man doctrine.
Isaiah 6:13 But yet in it (the land, earth) shall be a tenth, and it (the tenth, the offering to the Lord in righteousness) shall return (first resurrection), and shall be eaten: as a teil tree and as an oak, whose substance IS IN THEM, when they cast their leaves, the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.
Revelation 22:2 ....and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Do we agree that the OLD SAINTS were raised with Christ, let me know if we don't, and we will look to the scriptures for the answer.
God Bless YOU!
I did reply to your question but it did not show up on this thread. It appears on page one of the Discussion comments.
Man doesn't go to a PLACE, heaven of hell.
John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, except he that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which now IS IN HEAVEN; IN MAN.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .......Christ in you ....
We are JUST A BODY; THE NEW HEAVEN, where the LIFE of CHRIST dwells.
When he pulls THE LIFE out of the BODY (human flesh) that fleshly bodies dies.
The LIFE goes back to God who gave THE BODY LIFE.
When we depart this fleshly body we instantly are GIVEN a NEW BODY, the BODY of CHRIST.
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The kingdom of heaven is IMMORTAL LIFE.
The only man that has IMMORTAL LIFE is Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:38 ...and to every SEED, HIS (CHRIST) OWN BODY ......
John 14:6 I am Life ....
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high,
Psalms 82:7 But ye (flesh and blood, this earthly body) shall die like one of the princes ...
LIFE can never DIE, only this body of flesh DIES: LIFE continues in a NEW BODY.
God Bless YOU!
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