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  • Brooke on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    In Romans 10:4 to me it never means to say that when Jesus died the laws died with him. I believe we should all be abiding by the laws of Moses and Abraham. Also we need to honor the ten commandments and really study what God is telling us to do and how to live a happy spiritual life. Such as so many people have strayed away from honoring God on the true Sabbath day that the vatican doctrine has changed from saturday to sunday, and how to push pagan holidays upon people. We all need to start reading and finding out the truth!
  • Mishael - In Reply on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    Actually in Matthew 5, Jesus reaffirms some commandments as being relevant to society and issues. Things that come up a lot like divorce. We should speak the truth in love of course, but not softsell on issues that tear the fabric of society.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Brooke.

    Go to Matthew 5 and read all chapter. It is Jesus's teaching called The Blessings. Pay attention to verses 21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-39 etc .Jesus says there " You have heard that it was said by them of old time..." This means it was said to Israeletes by God in the old times (Jesus means Moeses's Law) and Jesus continued "But i say unto you..." . And He changes the Law that was given by God to Moese.. If i was there i would ask Jesus " who are you that you dare change God's Law?" I beleive His answer would be " I am the God who gave that Law and I have the authority to change It" Who else would dare change God's Law but God himself? And you will notice that He changes a lot of commandments. Example given we are not allowed now to swear but people in OT could do that. We are allowed to separate for any reason except for adultery but people in OT could and so on.

    Most of the 10 commandments are still valid in NT, actually only the fourth about Sabbath is not valid.

    Please read what apostole Paul writes to Colossians 2:16 to christians He asks them not to allow people judge them for not following OT's law including keeping Sabbath. Sabbath is not a christian holiday. Rejecting Sabbath is not a Vatican Doctrine, it was done as long as apostoles were still alive.

    It's good to ask those questions so you get the answers you are looking for.

    God Bless You
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    When God spoke of that New Covenant in Jeremiah 31 : 31 kjv ..He said it wd not be as the Old Covenant..He said they will no more teach their neighbors know the lord for they shall ALL know me from the least to the greatest....I will KNOW them ALL ETC and Isaiah said knowledge shall cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...And this intimacy with humanity is gonna result in a birth of Christ in everybody..As Jeremiah saw all men in travail and Birth pains Jeremiah 30 : 6..Why do i see all men in travail and birth pains as woman in Child birth. Its a time of Jacobs troubles....Simply b/c the Child is the H.G that Israel of God...That is gonna be born in humanity...As the field is the world where that good seed is gonna be sown...The wheat is the H.G that Child of Promise...That Israel of God..Simply b/c the sower of that GOOD SEED is the Bridegroom...thus there is a baby Christ in our future.

    ....When Paul spoke of that New Born babe desiring the sincere milk of the world thats the H.G.the Child of Promise that is gona be born in us sinners....And the beautiful part is its gona be as the stars of heaven in multitude...So shall thy seed be..The Promise.

    ....Thats y he always refers to himself as the SON of MAN....Mankind is gonna bring forth fruit unto God...Which is the Child of Promise the H.G....An Israel of God..
  • Free - In Reply on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    Do you hear what you're writing, dear "Brooke"? Do you really think we should go back with sacrifice? What Jesus Christ Did Once for All? After reading the answers you have received, I hope you have repented and been baptized.

    But i completely agree with you that we should read and in His time we will explain it. Thought about this just today, when one gets a case handed over that is of faith who is from Him. It branches out to the one who hears. Then they get quite uplifted. Dear remember and read both GT and NT in KJV and follow the references. Then I'm pretty sure you get the case explained, i wich u good luck. And please come here for more input. Everyone here on this web site has only good peace thoughts for everyone who visits it, me too.

    Please follow me in Luke 12:12 and read the whole chapter.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    Hi Brook.

    You said grow spiritual by keeping the law? We can't.

    Galatians 3:2-3.

    Galatians 3:5-7.

    Galatians 3:8-9.

    Galatians 3:10-11.

    Galatians 3:12-14.

    Also read Galatians 4. and

    Galatians 5.

    Jesus didn't do away with the Law.

    Jesus took on the penalty of the law that brought death.

    Colossians 2:14-17.

    In fact it's called the ministry of Death.

    Here's a few passages from Paul. at one time he felt the same way you do and set out to kill anyone that followed Jesus.

    2 Corinthians 3:6-11.

    Romans 7:10-11. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

    For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

    Romans 5:20. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

    Philippians 3:2-10. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

    For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

    Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

    Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

    Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

    But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

    Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

    And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

    That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

    Galatians 5:11-12.

    God bless.
  • Doug - In Reply on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    The Bible is divided into a old testament (will) and the new testament (will). The new testament is God's current will. When someone makes a new will the old one is replace by, or subject to the new . Hebrews 1:1 God spoke in times past by the prophets but in these last days spoken to us by his Son. The old law came through Levi but Jacob prophesied that the lawgiver would proceed out of Judah. David prophesies Christ would be after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 7 it states that the "the priesthood being changed there is made of necessity a change in the law. The law can be for a shadow of the new, but not the very image ( Hebrews 10:1) 1 Timothy 1:8 The law is good if a man use it lawfully implies that the old testament can be used if it complies with the new testament. Romans 3:31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid, yea, we establish the law. 2 Cor. 3 has numerous verses that the old testament was to be "done away". The new testament is referenced as the "law of liberty" and the "law of Christ" which is the true lawgiver. Christ in Mat. 7 said in several places "ye have heard that it was said by them of old time" but "I said unto you" indicating that some old testament laws were not according to the "new will".



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