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  • Clint - 2 years ago
    Any comments on heaven facts or personal beliefs
  • Mishael - In Reply - 2 years ago
    You might enjoy some Nelson Walters videos on YouTube. He sticks real close to scripture.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Clint,

    Heaven, facts, or personal beliefs could be quite diverse. The Bible tells us heaven is God's dwelling place, 2 Chronicles 36:15, God's holy temple and throne are in heaven, Psalms 11:4, and the angels are in heaven, Matthew 22:30. The tabernacle Moses was instructed to build was a copy of the one in heaven, Hebrews 8:5.

    The Bible tells us no man has ascended up to heaven, John 3:13. The Bible tells us heaven even the heavens are the LORDs and the earth is for the children of men, Psalms 115:16. We are told several times, that heaven along with the earth will be changed and made new, Isaiah 65:17 Isaiah 66:22 2 Peter 3:13 Revelation 21:1, and the new earth is where those whose names are in the book of life will be and God will dwell with us, and we will see His face Revelation 21,22.

    If you are thinking, like the question, we hear, are you going to heaven when you die? That is something else. My understanding of scripture is the only way man will see heaven is in a vision like Paul, 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 and John, Revelation.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Clint, man is deceived.

    Christ always spoke to the multitude with a parable.

    A parable is a teaching you can see in the physical; but is TRUE meaning can not be seen, it must be seen with eyes of the spirit.

    This is a parable:

    John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

    So where is heaven, where is Christ?

    Colossians 1:27 ...this MYSRERY ..... CHRIST IN YOU .....

    You are the ADODE of Christ, you are HEAVEN.

    Revelation 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth...... for the first one had passed away....

    Matthew 5:18 .....till heaven and earth pass (it's a parable) one jot and one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    When Christ arose from the dead, the Old Law written in stone PASSED AWAY and the NEW LAW OF SPIRIT (LIFE) went into HEAVEN (YOU).

    Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in HEAVEN (IN YOU) is perfect.

    Matthew 7:21 Not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord, shall enter into the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN (You are the KINGDOM OF GOD) but he that doth the will of my Father which is in HEAVEN (IN YOU).

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (IN YOU, Spirit and life IN YOU, because YOU, sinful flesh DIED ON THE CROSS) that worketh both TO WILL (God's will) and TO DO his good pleasure.

    This TRUTH is HARD, because we have been deceived, but EVERYHING being done (IN YOU and by you) is God's work, not yours.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh and keepeth MY WORKS, to him will I give POWER OVER THE NATIONS .....

    GBU and may truth overcome.
  • Doug - In Reply - 2 years ago
    A good exercise for me is to look around where I am see the things associated with securing, cleaning, maintaining and lighting my current dwelling that will all pass away in heaven because there is no need to have them.



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