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  • Marke on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 17:4

    4 A wicked doer giveth heed to false lips; and a liar giveth ear to a naughty tongue.

    Why is America currently being ruled by godless democrats? Because so many Americans are wicked and believe the lies of the wicked and vote for the liars and crooks who lie and cheat their way into power.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello everyone, Peace we must remember that the Church preaches wrong too. So the spirit of the times is part of this. Countries that refuse to preach are also involved. Its not only wom/men.

    Then we have the churches that are scared of the spirit. They are afraid of working overtime. And then there are those who have already fallen asleep. But Paul says: Awaken the gift that is in you!

    So where there is fear of man because no one has let in the Holy Spirit. Prayer and intercession are needed there. Let us hope that God enables his people. We can not preach unbelief, But FAITH,we can not even tell that we do not understand. Unfortunately, people have forgotten that in the Spirit we do dear have, a heart that understand everything!

    For the management does not open up. Therefore, all newly saved are simply set aside instead of inviting them to the witness box :) In this way, the congregations everywhere would be encouraged, be awakened to live again. There is all evil where there are those who believe that they are doing a proper and orderly service. Where it is not open: It is closed, unfortunately. We gather but are not united in Christ Body. Where is it?

    Now if it is the case that many do not dare to stand up in meetings and gatherings, that they have the finest prayer times with the Lord at home in their chamber, or? Maybe we should sell these big church houses and go back to house meetings. With song and play in close relationship. Maybe the family would be saved and baptized again as in ancient times :). That is a big responsibility. For a pastor can not reach everything, the pastor must distribute the gifts, he does not, the congregation dies out and he himself is burned out. It does not serve any benefit. Remember it is the pastor who decides this. The teacher is involved in this. And most of all do not say that it is human error. They are quite innocent.

    Stay blessed all of us that want too follow Jesus. John 11 and 12 Chapter. Love u all in Christ.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Praying for Republicans to take power to save us from ungodly Democrats is folly. Both sides are sowing and reaping violence and lawlessness now and justifying it in service of politicial ambitions. Love is growing cold.

    Factionalizing the church along worldly political power divides that demonize one side in blind service to the other is the last thing it needs. What is needed is repentance.

    Hebrews 10:24-25

    24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
  • Marke - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    As Christians we have a responsibility to pray to God to deliver us from evil, both personally and corporally. We should pray that our national leaders make good decisions instead of bad. There are two main political parties in the US government and neither is focused on seeking and obeying God above all other considerations. Nevertheless, when voting for political candidates we should vote for the candidate who shows the most reverence and appreciation for God. That is almost always the republican over the democrat in today's political world.
  • Suze - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    I've mostly been enjoying your posts , however you do know that the things of this world are totally irrelevant don't you ? Christians , from all over this planet are spiritual Israel . Rev Ch 11 V 15 , Rev Ch 21+22 . This world is nothing compared to the Kingdom of God Num Ch 14 V 21 .

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  • Kay - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Quite a few years ago now, I had the blessing of hearing a sermon by a 97-year old preacher from the UK named Arthur Burt. In it, he explained that the problem isn't the world. Sinners behave the way they do because they aren't saved. The issue God has is with those who profess His Holy Name.

    The condition of the visible church (generally speaking), is very sad; there is such greed, flattery, self-love, such competition, idolatry, worldliness, secret sin and even open sin; there is compromise; there is adding to the Word of God and there is taking away from it.

    There is, in manifold cases, an adulterous union between the church and the state. We say, "God and country" ...but that is false. God has declared that He alone is God, and BESIDE HIM there is NO other. Sometimes I'm tempted to believe that people put the Bill of Rights on par with, if not above, the Bible!

    The salt has lost its savor. The church has not been the preserving influence in our society it should be.

    It is written, "If MY people, who are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, THEN will I hear from heaven, and forgive their sin, and heal their land."

    But where are the prayer meetings in which people are weeping between the porch and the altar, in travail, in intercession, in fervency and in earnestness?

    Where are the prayer meetings where we cry out for God's will to come and be done, for His Spirit to be poured out, instead of just praying for our wants?

    Where is biblical separation in the visible church? So many are so much like the world, they are almost hard to be distinguished from each other! I've have been saved almost 40 years, and have seen so much not only in our country, but in many other places in the world, and the case of the visible church is desperate.

    The church, not the world, is the real problem; this is why we are under the rod of God. The problem is a spiritual one, not a natural one.
  • Marke - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Good post Kay. The biggest problem with the modern church is that, like the church of Laodicea, Jesus stands on the outside and not inside of so many hearts of those who participate in its ongoing work in the world. In other words, many if not most Christians in today's church are not even saved.
  • Kay - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your reply, Marke. What I wrote, believe me, I wrote with such groaning in my heart and spirit. Some days I have such heaviness, such sighing, such crying.

    For any true believer, to see our Lord's lovely name used in vain, to see His Word twisted, to see eternal souls so deceived - there is nothing else but to be sad and grieved unto prayer.

    Mixed with that is a holy fear! ONLY God's grace and His grace, and mercy and power ALONE makes me to differ from anyone else! How I pray now for that amazing grace to keep me to the end and carry me over the finish line of my race!

    Thank you again, Marke! Blessings!
  • Carleton - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Hello Kay. Earlier today I was meditating on how the Church does not need the power or wisdom of the State. The Church is made up of believers that are lambs that love their Shepherd and will follow Him. Glad also to hear your meditations this day.

    :)
  • Kay - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your encouraging words, Carlton.

    This issue cannot but be on the minds of true believers who are following the Lamb.

    It has been my observation for quite a while that when I've tried to find a church - instead of finding Christ exalted, I find, over and over and over again - the church exalting itself!!

    There is all kind of talks about how great the church is, how great the pastor is, how great the youth ministry is, how much 'giving' is done to the missions program, how great the choir sings, and on and on and ON!! But....NEVER talk about how great JESUS is!

    The church is a candlestick alone. Christ is the true Light.

    The church is supposed to hold forth the Head, Jesus Christ! How perverse when the church holds forth itself!

    Oh let us walk humbly with Jesus, and follow HIM WHEREVER He may go! Help us to do it, precious Lord!

    Blessings, Carlton...
  • Carleton - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Kay for your meditations and thoughts! I myself am a member of at least a part of the visible Church. We are many congregations and united and undivided in our love toward Christ as our head and we confess a love toward his doctrines that we read in the New Testament. It is our desire to adorn his doctrines in our lives by grace. We also love one another. It was another brother who has passed into eternity that inspired my recent meditations.

    Stay encouraged!
  • Kay - In Reply on Proverbs 17 - 2 years ago
    Hi Carlton!

    You also stay encouraged in Jesus! I can sense your love for Him in your posts! Thank you for responding!

    Blessings!



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