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  • Philip Christian Parks on Revelation 19:20 - 2 years ago
    Rev. 19:13 = This blood is not CHRIST's own that HE shed during HIS crucifixion. No, this blood is the blood of CHRIST's enemies that HE will draw during Armageddon. Verse fifteen speaks of CHRIST treading the winepress (see also 14:20). Deuteronomy 32:14 describes the juice of the grape as blood. Interpret the graphic language to mean CHRIST will violently attack HIS enemies with such force that HE will splatter their blood on HIS vesture with such abundance that it will become soaked and dripping.

    All soldiers experienced in combat, and all who study war, know that soldiers often bloody themselves with the blood of those they kill. When JESUS CHRIST engages in the Battle of Armageddon, HE intends to save no one, nor take prisoners, for HE battles to slaughter the armies of the Antichrist without mercy. Even Revelation 19:21 describes CHRIST ensuring HE kills every last one of the Antichrist's rebellious armies: "the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth ..." The blood drenching HIS vesture is that of HIS enemies.

    Isaiah 63:1-4 describes JESUS CHRIST fighting Armageddon. Isaiah recorded that prophecy in the prophetic perfect tense. In verse one, Isaiah asks, "WHO is THIS that comes from Edom, with dyed {bloodied} garments from Bozrah?" The mentioning of Edom and Bozrah suggests Armageddon is a series of battles culminating in Armageddon. The PERSON in question is The MESSIAH/CHRIST.

    In verse two, Isaiah asked another important question: "Wherefore art THOU red in THINE apparel, and THY garments (including HIS vesture) like him that treadeth in the winefat?" This question accepts the fact that when one stomps grapes in the wine press, he traumatically expels the "blood of the grape" (Deu. 32:14) resulting in splattering the wine presser's clothing with grape juice. This metaphor proves that the blood drenching CHRIST's vesture is not HIS Own, but that of HIS enemies.
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 2 years ago
    Dude if you don't think that Christ shed his blood on the croos you are lost and God lied, Everyone thinks they can interpreate Rvealations but miss the one most important part Rev1:3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. So what are we to keep? Do you know what I get out of revelations, I don't want to live through it and if Revelations doesn't make us fear God nothing can. The fear of the lord leads to salvation. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. So much more to focus on to live godly in the Bible so you don't suffer God's wrath. Revelations is God's wrath
  • Philip Christian Parks - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 2 years ago
    Brother Charles, My very first statement in fact does state that during CHRIST JESUS's crucifixion, HE did bleed HIS own blood and HE did die for our sins. My point disagrees with many who erroneously believe CHRIST dipped HIS vesture in HIS own blood which HE shed on Calvary's cross. This is their interpretation of the expression, "HE (LORD JESUS) was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood" ( Rev. 19:13).

    This blood on HIS vesture is not HIS own, but rather that of HIS enemies of whom HE slays (v.15).

    CHRIST shed HIS blood to save HIS people. HE did so during HIS crucifixion. But the context of Revelation Nineteen is not a context of vicarious sacrifice, but rather of war ( Rev. 19:11), bloodshed (cp. Rev. 14:20), and death ( Rev. 19:15 & 21).
  • David L Valentin - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 2 years ago
    Close and accurate with the exception of the blood not being of Christ. The necessity to be born of virgin not a man's will, he took on the form of flesh and was made a little lower than the angels for the atonement "I will build a new covenant in my blood!

    "For if the blood of goats could take away sin there would not be a need to enter in a second time!

    the only thing that protects us from the Holy Wrath of God is the precious blood of Jesus, after that everything is accurate

    "If you would be shy of me, I would be shy of you in front of my father"

    All sinners saved by Grace, our only defense " The Blood of the Lamb of God"!
  • The Battle of Armageddon - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 2 years ago
    Reading Revelation, you will find that the Ark of the Testament is in heaven. This means that it was moved; as was the Tree of Life.

    Realistically, it would take time to slay a 200 million man army + Antichrist's army. More than a day. I can't think of Jesus chopping off heads, arms or legs.

    I'm just thinking that the Ark will be on the battlefield. It will be opened and his enemies will drop dead.

    Revelation Chapter 11

    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ARK of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

    I just have to go with what I know about our Lord. He's not a butcher. He's the King of kings; Lord of lords. We'll be there too, so however it goes down, we'll be part of it. Mishael
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you dear for these words. Interesting reading. This I will look at.

    Have a nice day under the sun in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ. With word from Luke chapter 2.



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