1.) Adam let his wife (eve) wonder about alone in the garden.
2.) Eve let another man speak to her without having her husband present.
3.) Eve added in to Scripture:
"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." - Said Eve Genesis 3:3
However God said "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:17; She could touch the fruit, but she was commanded not to eat it.
4.) Adam listened to Eve, instead of listening to his Father
Adam and Eve were in a state of innocence and were naive about disobedience to God when God gave them the command. They did not know what sin was like, so could not know how costly it was, how much it would change them and their relationship with God, and what death was like. They also did not know the difference between a truth and a lie. So, though they were responsible for their choices in this matter, they come from a position much different than any who came after them. Only Adam and Eve knew what it was like to be in a sinless state, (except when the Son of God incarnated in human flesh to become Jesus). The difference between Adam (and Eve) and Jesus is that Adam (and Eve) were created good by God, but were not perfect as they were created able to sin, but could choose not to sin. Jesus was God the Son, therefore his divine nature was not able to sin. And since the two natures were united in one person, Jesus was unable to sin due to this union. This does not mean that Jesus in His human nature was not tempted, nor did not have to struggle against this temptation, but His divine nature would not allow His human nature to sin, because the divine human nature were united in one Person, but the natures did not mix together.
All other humans that lived after Adam and Eve never know what it is like to be in a sinless state while on earth. Human nature was changed with Adam's sin is now no longer innocent, but corrupted by the power of sin. And this sinful nature is passed on from generation to generation in some way. But us every being that comprise humankind is corrupted by sin from conception on and so every person will at some point choose to sin. So, Adam (and Eve) could choose to sin or not to sin, and Jesus could not choose to sin, all other humans cannot not sin at some point and repeatedly in this life.
I don't put much coin in comments that don't provide scripture verses to back up their claims. Unless you can cite your sources through God's perfect Word, I'll just dismiss your post as another philosophical matter of man.
I'm willing to change my stance, but you need to provide scripture; I obey God's words, not man.
1 John 4:1
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Acts 5:29
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
I understand your point. When people post, even if they cite Scripture, they often add opinion in their commentary on the Scripture cited. Citing a Scripture does not necessarily make one's stated opinion correct. I often do cite Scripture. But in my post to you I was speaking to what you stated as opinion. So, as in most, we speak from what we know. And we should gain knowledge from Scripture, as you said. Scripture does not often give extended explanations on some topics and that is where considering what other people of the faith have said/written to explain a matter, as many do on this site as well as in books or from an internet site.
You are free to have your opinion based on the sources you have gone to for information. And I, mine. I did not post my viewpoint to rebut what you had written. I was just relaying information I had found from theological sources that helped me with my explanation. Some people do not wish to consider such sources and others, like me, appreciate reading a viewpoint outside of what I, myself, think about a Scriptural topic. So, no offense intended to your, my brother.
You can dismiss my post as you stated. I am not offended if you do. Have a good day. Sean.
My dear "Sean" in peace. Have you not read lengre? Then you have a lot to look forward to. The scripture you are referring to is found in Genesis 2:16-17. And becouse in Genesis 2:22 and 23 v. its vritten my friend. Genesis 2:22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
after that the Lord took Adam's ribs and provided Adam with the woman. So now imagine that Eva HAD to be an incredibly awkward and naive woman! Who managed and tempted Adam with this fruit before she was made?
To get this right, we must also see here that it was Adam who was told not to eat of the fruit on the tree in the middle of the Garden of Eden. Result: Death was brought into the world. You probably also know that there might be something good in it at the end. Because it says that humans could be more than 100 years old. In fact, Enoch was 365 years old. Among many others, Genesis 5:13-32 please read.
It is very interesting reading. And do it dear you, never give up. Follow the references too :) Good reading in Jesus Christ's Holy Name.
"Have you not read lengre?". Intresting, I've never heard of lengre before. What is that? Did you accidentally make a typo, or is that a name a book that I do not know?
"Follow the references too :)". What are "the references" you're referring to?
Hi ty for response i also saw the error after it wasposted. Please forgive me.
The references are usually tiny fonts below the scripture you read from the Bible.
Please read chapter 7 in John eksample:in v. 38 He that believeth on Me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Reference to Isaiah 12.
Good luck and price Him Jesus Christ. He is our Savior. Amen
1.) Adam let his wife (eve) wonder about alone in the garden.
2.) Eve let another man speak to her without having her husband present.
3.) Eve added in to Scripture:
"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." - Said Eve Genesis 3:3
However God said "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:17; She could touch the fruit, but she was commanded not to eat it.
4.) Adam listened to Eve, instead of listening to his Father
Adam and Eve were in a state of innocence and were naive about disobedience to God when God gave them the command. They did not know what sin was like, so could not know how costly it was, how much it would change them and their relationship with God, and what death was like. They also did not know the difference between a truth and a lie. So, though they were responsible for their choices in this matter, they come from a position much different than any who came after them. Only Adam and Eve knew what it was like to be in a sinless state, (except when the Son of God incarnated in human flesh to become Jesus). The difference between Adam (and Eve) and Jesus is that Adam (and Eve) were created good by God, but were not perfect as they were created able to sin, but could choose not to sin. Jesus was God the Son, therefore his divine nature was not able to sin. And since the two natures were united in one person, Jesus was unable to sin due to this union. This does not mean that Jesus in His human nature was not tempted, nor did not have to struggle against this temptation, but His divine nature would not allow His human nature to sin, because the divine human nature were united in one Person, but the natures did not mix together.
All other humans that lived after Adam and Eve never know what it is like to be in a sinless state while on earth. Human nature was changed with Adam's sin is now no longer innocent, but corrupted by the power of sin. And this sinful nature is passed on from generation to generation in some way. But us every being that comprise humankind is corrupted by sin from conception on and so every person will at some point choose to sin. So, Adam (and Eve) could choose to sin or not to sin, and Jesus could not choose to sin, all other humans cannot not sin at some point and repeatedly in this life.
I'm willing to change my stance, but you need to provide scripture; I obey God's words, not man.
1 John 4:1
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Acts 5:29
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
I understand your point. When people post, even if they cite Scripture, they often add opinion in their commentary on the Scripture cited. Citing a Scripture does not necessarily make one's stated opinion correct. I often do cite Scripture. But in my post to you I was speaking to what you stated as opinion. So, as in most, we speak from what we know. And we should gain knowledge from Scripture, as you said. Scripture does not often give extended explanations on some topics and that is where considering what other people of the faith have said/written to explain a matter, as many do on this site as well as in books or from an internet site.
You are free to have your opinion based on the sources you have gone to for information. And I, mine. I did not post my viewpoint to rebut what you had written. I was just relaying information I had found from theological sources that helped me with my explanation. Some people do not wish to consider such sources and others, like me, appreciate reading a viewpoint outside of what I, myself, think about a Scriptural topic. So, no offense intended to your, my brother.
You can dismiss my post as you stated. I am not offended if you do. Have a good day. Sean.
after that the Lord took Adam's ribs and provided Adam with the woman. So now imagine that Eva HAD to be an incredibly awkward and naive woman! Who managed and tempted Adam with this fruit before she was made?
To get this right, we must also see here that it was Adam who was told not to eat of the fruit on the tree in the middle of the Garden of Eden. Result: Death was brought into the world. You probably also know that there might be something good in it at the end. Because it says that humans could be more than 100 years old. In fact, Enoch was 365 years old. Among many others, Genesis 5:13-32 please read.
It is very interesting reading. And do it dear you, never give up. Follow the references too :) Good reading in Jesus Christ's Holy Name.
"Follow the references too :)". What are "the references" you're referring to?
The references are usually tiny fonts below the scripture you read from the Bible.
Please read chapter 7 in John eksample:in v. 38 He that believeth on Me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Reference to Isaiah 12.
Good luck and price Him Jesus Christ. He is our Savior. Amen
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