Please I need a clarification between chapter 1 & Chapter 2 of the book of Daniel. In Chapter 1, it was stated that the best of the children of Israel, the King's seed and the Princes were to be "schooled" for 3 years before seeing the King. It was after the days were completed that the King (Nebuchadnezzar) found Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah 10 times better than the others.
In chapter 2, it was recorded that the king (Nebuchadnezzar) dreamt in the second year of his reign. So the question is, did this event (of the dream, its revelation and interpretation by Daniel) occur while Daniel and the other three (mentioned above) were still "in school" or was it another King named Nebuchadnezzar after Cyrus as stated in the last verse of chapter 1.
The clarification requested borders around the chronology of events, to know if Daniel had revealed and interpreted the dream before himself and the friends were introduced to the king after the 3 years of schooling?
If we're just going by what is written in this Biblical translation, it appears the chronological order is Daniel 1 being account of capture & being taught in the ways of the "Chaldeans". I likewise was studying Daniel recently & found interesting how the books are like that.
Daniel 1:1, Daniel 2:1, dates of significant recognition. 2 Kings 24:1-2,
Historical insight 2 Kings 24:3-16, this appears to be the time that brought Daniel & his friends into that place of capacity. Note they left the poor in the land 2 Kings 24:14,17,18 which may explain the historical reference mentioned by other comment. 2 Kings 25:8-12,
Stated 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar._._.
Please note Daniel 4:6-9,18, Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel as "knowing the spirit of the holy" GOD was in him, therefore it shows Chpt 4 being after the first interpretation. Daniel 4:29, Daniel 4:23,
Daniel 5:11, Daniel 5:20-22, Daniel 5:31, Daniel 6:28,
Please note Daniel 7:1 it goes back to time of Daniel 5. Daniel 4, to Daniel 2, In some ways, not in the same vision but the statement in Daniel 2:47, So consistantly Daniel jumps back into moments within previous Chapters to add additional situations within those time frames
Daniel 1:20, chapter 2, could also explain this statement of why Daniel 1:20, states that.
Babylon attacked Jerusalem three times; the first time Nebuchadnezzars father was king. Nebuchadnezzar, heir to the throne of Babylon, invaded Judah and forced Jehoiakim to pay tribute. Daniel/Belteshazzar, Hananiah/Shadrach, Mishael/Meshach, and Azariah/Abednego were among the first, noble captives from Judah. This was around 607-606 BC, Nebuchadnezzars farther died in 605 BC, he then became king. Chapter 2 would have been around 603BC.
Thank you for taking time to respond to me. The chronological references offer another dimension which makes me to think if the scriptures are talking about multiple kings with respect to the events of the test and dream respectively. Although I have had to read again and it appears the King remains Nebuchadnezzar; is it possible that the king in chapter 2 bears the same name as his father in chapter 1? Still curious.
Not sure if you replied to me, and not sure of the chronological order you are working on. Nabopolassar was Nebuchadnezzar's father the first king Neo-Babylonian Empire, Nebuchadnezzar was the second. His father died shortly after Nebuchadnezzar came back from defeating Egypt and on the way back, he invaded Jerusalem and took Daniel and others 606-605 BC. Nebuchadnezzar is the only king mentioned it happened all so close his father was not named.
However, the major distress to Jerusalem did not come then but began after Jehoiakim rebelled against Nebuchadnezzar some three years later around 601B.C. 2 Kings 24:1. Nebuchadnezzar in his eighth year, 605-8=597, laid siege to Jerusalem and captured it in 597 B.C. 2 Kings 242 Chronicles 36:6 says Jehoiakim was carried away in fetters to
Babylon, whether alive or dead and his son, Jehoiachin, was taken captive to Babylon.
This was the first major amount of the captives of the Jews; in addition to King Jehoiachin, most of the nobility, and most of the treasury, they took to Babylon in 597 B.C. Nebuchadnezzar was then placed on the throne as a puppet, Zedekiah. 2 Chronicles 36:5-11.
Zedekiah. Over time, in malice of many admonitions from the prophet Jeremiah, Zedekiah, he too rebelled, and the Babylonians laid siege to Jerusalem once again in 587 B.C. Jeremiah 1
This siege produced devastating famine and pestilence within the metropolis, which finally fell to the Babylonians in 586 B.C. They destroyed the city and walls and burnt down the temple several weeks later on the ninth day of the month AV, (the same day of the same month that Titus destroyed the Second Temple, six hundred, fifty-six years afterward, in 70 A.D. 2 Kings 25:8-12.
The second temple was dedicated in 516 BC, 70 years after the first temple was destroyed. Daniel was taken 606-605 BC and the temple was destroyed 19 years later in 586 BC.
If this is not what you are working on let me know, I may help.
Thanks again for your response. I am only still on Chapter 2 of my bible study of the book of Daniel. The chronology of events outlined has cleared any assumptions about the possibility that Chapter 1 & 2 may be referencing multiple Kings.
However, the events of the dream (in Chapter 2) was said to have happened in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar (with Daniel already confirmed as one of the wise men) while chapter 1 states that they (Daniel and the others) were presented before the King after three years. Although, I have had more enlightenment by the feedbacks, my primary concern which made me start the conversation has not been addressed. I will be glad if it can be addressed, if not, I will just continue studying and pray.
In chapter 2, it was recorded that the king (Nebuchadnezzar) dreamt in the second year of his reign. So the question is, did this event (of the dream, its revelation and interpretation by Daniel) occur while Daniel and the other three (mentioned above) were still "in school" or was it another King named Nebuchadnezzar after Cyrus as stated in the last verse of chapter 1.
The clarification requested borders around the chronology of events, to know if Daniel had revealed and interpreted the dream before himself and the friends were introduced to the king after the 3 years of schooling?
Thank you for the anticipated clarification.
Daniel 1:1, Daniel 2:1, dates of significant recognition. 2 Kings 24:1-2,
Historical insight 2 Kings 24:3-16, this appears to be the time that brought Daniel & his friends into that place of capacity. Note they left the poor in the land 2 Kings 24:14,17,18 which may explain the historical reference mentioned by other comment. 2 Kings 25:8-12,
Stated 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar._._.
Please note Daniel 4:6-9,18, Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel as "knowing the spirit of the holy" GOD was in him, therefore it shows Chpt 4 being after the first interpretation. Daniel 4:29, Daniel 4:23,
Daniel 5:11, Daniel 5:20-22, Daniel 5:31, Daniel 6:28,
Please note Daniel 7:1 it goes back to time of Daniel 5. Daniel 4, to Daniel 2, In some ways, not in the same vision but the statement in Daniel 2:47, So consistantly Daniel jumps back into moments within previous Chapters to add additional situations within those time frames
Daniel 1:20, chapter 2, could also explain this statement of why Daniel 1:20, states that.
Notice also in Daniel 5:10-14,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study
God bless you.
Babylon attacked Jerusalem three times; the first time Nebuchadnezzars father was king. Nebuchadnezzar, heir to the throne of Babylon, invaded Judah and forced Jehoiakim to pay tribute. Daniel/Belteshazzar, Hananiah/Shadrach, Mishael/Meshach, and Azariah/Abednego were among the first, noble captives from Judah. This was around 607-606 BC, Nebuchadnezzars farther died in 605 BC, he then became king. Chapter 2 would have been around 603BC.
Hope this helps.
God bless,
RLW
God bless you.
Not sure if you replied to me, and not sure of the chronological order you are working on. Nabopolassar was Nebuchadnezzar's father the first king Neo-Babylonian Empire, Nebuchadnezzar was the second. His father died shortly after Nebuchadnezzar came back from defeating Egypt and on the way back, he invaded Jerusalem and took Daniel and others 606-605 BC. Nebuchadnezzar is the only king mentioned it happened all so close his father was not named.
However, the major distress to Jerusalem did not come then but began after Jehoiakim rebelled against Nebuchadnezzar some three years later around 601B.C. 2 Kings 24:1. Nebuchadnezzar in his eighth year, 605-8=597, laid siege to Jerusalem and captured it in 597 B.C. 2 Kings 24 2 Chronicles 36:6 says Jehoiakim was carried away in fetters to
Babylon, whether alive or dead and his son, Jehoiachin, was taken captive to Babylon.
This was the first major amount of the captives of the Jews; in addition to King Jehoiachin, most of the nobility, and most of the treasury, they took to Babylon in 597 B.C. Nebuchadnezzar was then placed on the throne as a puppet, Zedekiah. 2 Chronicles 36:5-11.
Zedekiah. Over time, in malice of many admonitions from the prophet Jeremiah, Zedekiah, he too rebelled, and the Babylonians laid siege to Jerusalem once again in 587 B.C. Jeremiah 1
This siege produced devastating famine and pestilence within the metropolis, which finally fell to the Babylonians in 586 B.C. They destroyed the city and walls and burnt down the temple several weeks later on the ninth day of the month AV, (the same day of the same month that Titus destroyed the Second Temple, six hundred, fifty-six years afterward, in 70 A.D. 2 Kings 25:8-12.
The second temple was dedicated in 516 BC, 70 years after the first temple was destroyed. Daniel was taken 606-605 BC and the temple was destroyed 19 years later in 586 BC.
If this is not what you are working on let me know, I may help.
God bless,
RLW
Thanks again for your response. I am only still on Chapter 2 of my bible study of the book of Daniel. The chronology of events outlined has cleared any assumptions about the possibility that Chapter 1 & 2 may be referencing multiple Kings.
However, the events of the dream (in Chapter 2) was said to have happened in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar (with Daniel already confirmed as one of the wise men) while chapter 1 states that they (Daniel and the others) were presented before the King after three years. Although, I have had more enlightenment by the feedbacks, my primary concern which made me start the conversation has not been addressed. I will be glad if it can be addressed, if not, I will just continue studying and pray.
Thanks for your help again.
Best regards,
Tunji
was when he took over a kingdom he would take the emblem or statue of god or gods and sit them on
the outer wall of his kingdom to display his power. That's why when someone or something went against
hid authority he was enraged. When none of the wise men in the kingdom could answer the dream he ordered
all of them dead Daniel 2:12+13 that included Daniel and shadrach meshach and Abednego. It's amazing in
a pagan empire that again God intervened for the standing believers and delivered again
Notice the chaldean wise men answer in verses 10+11 of chapter two the gos who's dwelling is not
of flesh.
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