Bible Discussion Thread

I believe in Jesus Christ our Savior I was saved 4 years ago. I have Christian's friends that took the vaccine, I myself, the day I heard about the vaccine was coming, I decided to read more about it, participated a Summit conference (7 days) and I knew this was very wrong, because the vaccine would changed our DNA for life. As a believer in Jesus Christ, he created us as His image and our DNA is precious because it is what God gave us to protect us from disease. We have been created to His image, but we were born in the flesh as sinners and once you a reborn again, then God seals you as His child and we are known as not sinners anymore but saints. There has been so many contreversy about 'the mark' of the beast and I always believe the vaccine was the 'mark of the beast' and lately in many countries and in Canada we are seeing places where they do not allow people to buy or sell because they refused to take the vaccine. I myself, I am very sadden because I do have christian friends that took the vaccine and some of them have died. My question is this? Why does people believe that you have to take the chip in your hand to be the mark of the beast' as opposed the vaccine? I believe many of my christian friends have been decieved, but on the other hand it seems many christians believes the mark of the beast will happen once we know who the Antichrist is and we as christians we will not see this happening as we will be rapture before this. This is my question

I'm sorry for your loss of friends during this difficult time. I'm sure it's even more troubling for you because of that.

I do not believe it to be the 'time" nor 'mark' However I Believe we are to be wise. Psalms 2:10,Teaching our children. Deuteronomy 11:19.The scripture does say 'hand or forehead" Revelations 13:11-18, please read around scripture for best context. Unless translation could mean arm, it's not clearly "the mark of the beast". I think the reason many are alarmed about this is

1st because of ingredient in vaccination, Psalms 106:29, Psalms 36-39

2nd whistle blowers coming forth with evidence of ungodly acts in testing, ingredient & side-affects

3rd the division it's caused & causing in Church & society

4th The Forcefulness of it all, losing ability to work, travel in some cases

5th The targeting of the T-cells, and cells that give space for communication with GOD, discovered by scientific study, (Reported 2009). Even having immediate side-affects

6th possibly most troubling for some: 1st P. C. developer bought pharmaceutical & Biotechnology ''vaccination' developer. Then filed for patent : WO/2020/060606 for: Cryptocurrency using body activity.

Please don't panic. 1 John 4:18,

Mark 13:22, Mark 13:5-37, several of those have yet to happen. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-13, could the great falling away be those who put all faith in rapture? Revelations 6:8-11, John 17:1-20, holdfast during trial Matthew 24:13, Matthew 24:4-51,

What is worship? Is it adoration, admiration, time given to, consuming, looking into intently, loving? Some feared computers were "the beast" the image of the beast? Cell phones or 'computer chips" The other day I wondered what it looks like to GOD seeing so many faces looking into devices, not up to HIM. Let us Worship only GOD ALMIGHTY, creator of Heaven & Earth.

Hopefully this is helpful in your research of Truth. I will pray for you also & sad for your loss & heaviness for loved ones being deceived. Peace to you

Hi Lise I'm amazed at how many christians or believers are getting caught up in the vaccine shot

being part of the beast or mark of the beast when Gods Word says Clearly we won't be here! We may

see things building up to that point in Gods time table, but we will not be present when the son of

perdition cuts loose so to speak. That term son of perdition literally means offspring of loss or destruction.

Who in the Bible Steals ,Kills and Destroys, now you know who this guys Father is going to be and where

he's getting his power from. But again we won't be here, but those left behind will be taken in by the so

called false signs miracles and wonders he will perform. Stick with God Word.

Lise Carmen Verdon,

I would like to add another amen on top of brother Spencer's reply to the answer Andrew gave. A true believer would never receive the mark. In order to receive the mark, a person must first bow down and worship the image of the beast (Revelation Chapter 13). That is a prerequisite before a person can receive this mark. You cannot just walk up and receive the mark without first worshipping the beast. So that would eliminate the vaccine being the mark of the beast.

The Vaccine is the Mark, it alters you. so that you are no longer what God Made you, but something different, Children cannot worship the beast knowingly, but they are satan's target because, they will be altered, the vaccine does not prevent Co-Vid. it only alters your DNA on a very small level, something else is in the works you can believe it, it kills unborn children worse than an abortion ever could. Plus, it is experimental so we don't know what will become of those who take it long term,

As a Born Again Believer, and one who strives to live in accordance with God's will, I believe that he/she who is truly SAVED will not and cannot do anything that would erase that to which is already established. Once we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior we are sealed and will forever be His children. Just as God allows us to FREELY choose, He also has given His children the ability to make choices with discernment. Therefore, choosing to get the vaccine, or choosing not to get the vaccine will NOT determine our eternal destination. Therefore, please keep in mind that when the Mark Of The Beast presents itself to the world, those who accept to receive it will be doing so with the knowledge of what they are accepting. In other words, every choice that one makes must be done with intention, willfulness, and knowledge that they are accepting the Mark. The vaccine does not fall within this criteria as no true Christian would willingly and intentionally accept the vaccine if they knew it was the Mark Of The Beast.

God Bless!

My thoughts exactly! A vaccine is IN THE ARM.

The Mark of the Beast is in forehead or right hand.

It happens when all money is only accessed with that Mark. When all paper, coin, and plastic currency is DONE AWAY WITH,

THE NEW MONEY SYSTEM will be the same WORLDWIDE. The Beast will do this.

So when you see these things happening in the NEWS, you will know it's time to make that one important decision= What Am I Going To Do About Jesus Christ??

If anyone Takes The Mark, knowingly and willingly, their fate is set. They are doomed.

Whatever is inside the Mark, is activated by a Central "Computer", worldwide? Anyone with a GPS devise can be tracked.

So anyone hoping to survive the Tribulation Will have to toss their cell phones and live in caves. Drones can be used to hunt for body Heat signatures.

Receive Jesus now! His promise to save you is greater than anything world governments are offering. OWNING A BIBLE DOESNT SAVE YOU.

Receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord is your one option. It must be genuine and said out loud: I believe Jesus is the one and only, SON OF GOD. I renounce all human efforts to save myself and be "good enough" to Earn salvation. I receive Jesus as my Lord. I will..to read your Bible and learn about Jesus's Power to Save me, and those I love.

I will talk to HIM, through the power of His Holy Spirit. Jesus is my Source. I surrender my efforts to be good and do good things. I receive His Power into my life. I want to go with you, Jesus.

Mishael: Father, in the name of Jesus, release angels to guard and protect this new believer in the first days of salvation. Fill him with the Holy Spirit. Amen

Amen Andrew.

God bless.

Lise

[Why does people believe that you have to take the chip in your hand to be the mark of the beast' as opposed the vaccine? I believe many of my christian friends have been decieved, but on the other hand it seems many christians believes the mark of the beast will happen once we know who the Antichrist is and we as christians we will not see this happening as we will be rapture before this.] The word of God reads in Revelation 13: 16 to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" This vaccine has a chip in it that I believe will flow through your body until it reaches a small blood vein where the chip will be stuck the smallest blood vein in the body is in the right hand and the forehead.

Many people are being deceived about the vaccine even after they get the vaccine they can still get the virus. Biden is making camps for the people that refuse to take the vaccine. I believe the antichrist will appear after the beast which is a computer "this is a one world order". The church will see some of the one world order before it is taken out of this world. This is just the beginning of the beast more is yet to come

God Bless

Stay prayed up and ready to go up

Cowboy

Sister Lise, may God grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The words of God are WRITTEN to his church, we individually are the church.

Now if the CHURCH is not going to be here when the beast and anti-christ are here, why would God have need of putting that in his word.

Revelation says which is, which was, and which is to come.

And no man could buy or sell, save he had the mark of the beast. Has not man been buying and selling since the world begin, man IS buying and selling, WAS buying and selling and SHALL BE buying and selling.

From the beginning God made vessel of honour, that God CHOSE, to fulfill his PURPOSE, but he also made vessels of dishonour, that he CHOSE, to fulfill his PURPOSE.

Abel was Chosen to be a vessel of honour, Cain was Chosen to be a vessel of dishonour.

Genesis 4:15...and set a MARK upon Cain (a beast, a vessel of dishonour)....

A BEAST has no KNOWLEDGE of GOD, we all start as THE BEAST.

Proverbs 9:1-2 WISDOM ....hath killed her BEAST.....

ANTI means against, opposed or not in agreement with: we all start out as ANTI christ.

Proverbs 16:6 By truth and mercy iniquity is purged (destroyed), and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.

By studying God's Word THE BEAST and THE ANTI CHRIST (no knowledge and wisdom of God within you) is destroyed and replaced by LIFE and TRUTH ( Colossians 1:27), being BORN AGAIN by the word of God. ( 1 Peter 1:23).

God Bless You.