Bible Discussion Thread

I keep seeing comments about willful sin, what is willful sin, is it different than regular sin.

I do not believe that Peter lost is salvation in that willful sin. He repented wen Paul rebuked Him. That is what all believers are to do when we sin willful or unintentionally, repent and ask for forgiveness and strength to resist sinning like that again.

Gigi What I see and we really need to keep in mind Peter His heart was always in the right pace even before being

born again. This guy wanted to take Jesus place at the cross, this guy had the guts to at least try to walk on water,

this guy is the one who boldly stood up in the temple and gave the first if you will sermon to over 3000 people, so it

I don't see willful sin I see someone still caught up in the old testament law which is not willful sin just a lack of

understanding the grace but that just like us always learning.

Look at Acts 10 When the angel said to cornelius send men to Joppa and find Simon Peter now verse 9 Peter

Goes to the housetop to pray verse 10 was a vision[it was God showing Him something specific for his head to get] and peter was not

so to speak out of it he was focused verse 11-16 He sees this three times and still doesn't get it. At that exact moment

the messenger from cornelius is at the gate and the spirit says go with him!

Look at Gods timing verses 20-27 explain the trip verse 28 God hath shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Look what it took to convince Peter that what he was about to do was Gods Will.

When Paul went to Believers at Jerusalem Peter was acting one way around the gentiles when the judeans

were not around and another way when they were around and that caused some serious division you had Jews siding with one person and then gentiles with another. Then in Galatians 2:14-21 he explains and corrects the error. So I don't see

willful sin I see respect of persons not intentional and paul explaining look were not supposed to be divided. Peter never

made an error of heart but of head. That's what I see. God Bless

Rick, I think that we just disagree on the definition of willful sin. Otherwise, I think Peter was amazing! He and Paul ended up shepherding churches in Rome where they were both martyred; Peter crucified upside down; and Pau-beheaded.

Peter was definitely a "Let's Go Get 'Em" kind of man, but he also denied Jesus 3 times and received the Lord's gentle forgiveness after the resurrection. I am sure Peter was so sorry and bothered that he did exactly like Jesus had prophesied he would do. He probably thought that the risen Lord would not accept Him back. But receiving that forgiveness was precious to him, and I think that event stuck with Him throughout his ministry. God uses broken vessels, but it is necessary for God to break His vessels in order to remake them into a vessel He can use. Peter is a good example of this.

Have a blessed night of rest. I'm off to bed. Got backing to do tomorrow getting ready for Thanksgiving dinner with my family.

Gigi With all due respect Jesus Christ always forgave the disciples before they were born again you don't teach and instruct and not love, that's why they were called disciples they were humble enough to a degree to stick around

of course Judas blew it.

Actually, I am describing every person, saved or not. Peter was saved at the time he visited the churches in Gentile areas and chose to eat with the Jews of the congregation separate from the Gentiles, whereas before he had eaten with te Gentiles. Paul called him out on this, because Peter knew better. He willfully sinned to look good in front of the Jews from Jerusalem.

GiGi, these comments by others say when you willfully sin you lose you salvation was peter not saved or saved and lost his salvation.

Hello, willful sin is a conscious decision to do something you know is wrong. For example: tell a lie, steal something from another person, assault another person, curse at another person, etc. People can also sin in ways we are not aware of: doing what is right from mixed motives (to obey God out of love and to impress others wit our good works at the same time) or harboring unloving feelings for others such as: anger, jealousy, coveting, unforgiveness. There are other examples. In the one instance: we know what we ought to do, and don't do it, or know what we should not do and do it.

In the other, we are unaware that what we are doing or saying or thinking or desiring is wrong.

GiGi, sounds like you are describing people before they are saved, maybe they were never saved just say the are.