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  • Glen O Barbour on 2 Maccabees 7 - 3 years ago
    I understand that the books of the apocrypha was not deem creatable or authorized. Why didn't the catholic church deem this book of 2 Maccabees 7 creatable? This mother and her sons went through a lot by standing for the only one true God!!!
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Maccabees 7 - 3 years ago
    Hello Glen. I'm not sure whether you're saying that 2 Maccabees chapter 7 is not recognized by Roman Catholics, or that the whole Book is not recognized. I can't speak of that particular chapter & account, but I know that the Book is certainly recognized by them, since the doctrine of purgatory & praying for the dead is one of the key references they use in support of it. I speak of 2 Maccabees 12:36-45.
  • Glen Barbour - In Reply on 2 Maccabees 7 - 3 years ago
    Chris,

    I am not catholic! However, what I was referring too is that these books are not listed in the bible (66 books). It was originally in the old KJV bible 1610, but was removed. I do not believe in purgatory and praying for the dead.
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Maccabees 7 - 3 years ago
    Hi Glen. I didn't believe you to be a Roman Catholic - I answered your question in the way I thought you meant it, about the Roman Catholic Church having problems with 2 Maccabees.

    However, to your other question: it is true that the 1611 KJV did have the Apocrypha in them, but it should be noted that it was placed between the Testaments & for historical reasons only, and usually with a note to speak of their non-inspired writing, that they should not be included into the Canon of Scripture & with several reasons (7, I believe) given for their spurious inspiration/authorship.

    Unlike the RC Bibles & others which included the Apocrypha within testamental books. For reasons I can't fully verify, I understand that because of the sheer weight of Bibles in those days (up to 40 lbs), the Apocrypha was omitted, and in respect of the Bible printers, this was a boon, since their job became easier & they could sell the Apocrypha as a separate volume, thereby making a further profit. However, you may want to check out this aspect. Trust this better answers your question, Glen.
  • Messenger - In Reply on 2 Maccabees 7 - 3 years ago
    Glen Barbour - in Reply on 2 Maccabees 7

    Chris,

    I am not catholic! However, what I was referring too is that these books are not listed in the bible (66 books). It was originally in the old KJV bible 1610, but was removed. I do not believe in purgatory and praying for the dead.

    You are replying to a comment by "Glen Barbour and Chris"

    Messenger Replies:

    Please read Acts 24:15 We can pray to God ( Psalm 83:18) for his kingdom to come ( Matthew 6:9,10).

    Why? because we can pray that he resurrect our loved ones who have died (the ones we love so dearly)

    John 5:28,29

    Job 14:14,15

    John 11:25



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