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Peter the Apostle of the Lord JESUS said: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 2Peter 3:v.8
Do you imagine that GOD created THE SUN in the fourth Day? Or two thousand years ago? It is true that GOD the Father was still working two thousand years ago, as JESUS revealed in John 5:v.17. JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
But it is evident that the LITERAL SUN was not created in the fourth Day or two thousand years ago. I'm sure that the only SUN created in the fourth Day was the SUN of righteousness, according the Word GOD gave to the prophet Malachi
and he prophesied, saying: 4:v.2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Footnotes - 1599 Geneva Bible
Malachi 4:2 Meaning, Christ, who with his wings or beams of his grace should lighten and comfort his Church, Eph. 5:14, and he is called the sun of righteousness, because in himself he hath all perfection and also the justice of the Father dwelleth in him: whereby he regenerateth us unto righteousness, cleanseth us from the filth of this world, and reformeth us to the image of God.
Malachi 4:2 Ye shall be set at liberty, and increase in the joy of the Spirit, 2 Cor. 3:17.
Hopefully we can just "Peacefully" and humblely agree to disagree. I don't care to debate it. Thanks
Greetings in Christ JESUS
OK, only for your knowledge, and for all readers, from the moment of starting of restoration or restitution of all things by JESUS , according it is reevealed in Acts 3:v.18 to 26, there passed around 2.160.000 days of 24 hours day or around 6.000 years or 6 Days according the Word - the Word is GOD.
Psalms 90:v.1 to 4 and 12
Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a THOUSAND YEARS in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. (evening and morning)
12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Let's put 2 Peter 3:8. in its context starting from verse 3.
2 Peter 3:3-9.
Now lets look at verse 8 and give attention to the second half of this verse as highlighted below.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and ( A THOUSAND YEARS AS ONE DAY.)
When we apply the second half of this verse it cancels out the first half of this verse when trying to use it to measure the length of a day!
You see the day is very long or very short.
The Emphasis is NOT on the length of a day that we may measure it.
The Emphasis is on the Lords longsuffering and patience because he's not restricted by time. He stands outside of time looking in.
Isaiah 46:10. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
In context with the preceding verse 9.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
HERE'S WHAT PETER IS ADDRESSING.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
HE'S NOT LAYING OUT A WAY WE MEASURE A DAY.
God bless.
Peter Apostle said A THOUSAND YEARS IS AS ONE DAY, but not A HUMAN DAY of 24 hours, but A DAY of a thousand years.
Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1.000 years each (a total of 6.000 years) plus a Millennium of 1.000 years rest - period of GOD's Kingdom -now a total of 7.000 years.
By the way, had you ever the curiosity to calculate how many 24 hour days have passed around these past 6.000 years or 6 DAYS according the Word of GOD?
Greetings in Christ JESUS
About Genesis 1:v.2, will be the readers think or imagine the "SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the H2O? or waters according Revelation 17:v.15?
Have you ever perceived that JESUS came in the fourth Day? By the way, JESUS left very clear saying in the fourth Day when He came: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:v.17. Even JESUS is saying and calling Himself as the Greater Light in Genesis 1. When JESUS came in the fourth Day He said: John 12:v.45-46:
45 - He that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the WORLD, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.- This event of JESUS coming was the fulfillment of Genesis 1:v.18 :...and GOD divide the light from the darkness:and God saw that it was good.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth Day.
The Lesser Light is about the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, he has not light in he himself, his light comes from the Father throught JESUS, the Greater Light (by analogy physicaly the moon receives and reflects the light of the sun), as JESUS said: John 16:7-15:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth;It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
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12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me:for he shall receive of mine,and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine:therefore said I, that he shall TAKE OF MINE,and shall shew it unto you.
Materialists confuse the biblical expression Greater Light and twist it when they say it is the Sun. Also they confuse the biblical expression Lesser Light and twist it when they say it is the Moon. Physically the Sun and the Moon have nothing to do with the biblical expression Greater Light and Lesser Light created in the fourth Day - Genesis 1:v.16, except for analogy.
About stars read Dan.12:v.3
My references in all my posts have been the Word of GOD - the Word is GOD - so what reference you imply it be by the spirit of the err?
I haven't spent a lot of time letting the Spirit teach me the things in Genesis that have to be SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. I KNOW there are THERE because EVERYTHING LITERAL has a PARALLEL that has to be SPIRITUALLY discerned. I know part of them because you can see them quite clearly; as JESUS was the first created light.
I spend most of my study in the prophets and Revelation and their relation to the New Testament and how we become the the likeness and image of Christ; which also has to be spiritually discerned. How and when we will be the judges with Christ in the kingdom of God. None of this can be seen, but is as REAL as God himself.
Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural, and afterwards that which is spiritual.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those things that can be SHAKEN, as of those things that are made, that those things which CANNOT BE SHAKEN shall remain.
I BELIEVE from reading you comments you understand that the literal has a parallel and that is what's REAL, the literal will DISAPPEAR.
When you have time, look at the story of Jacob (the literal) and the ladder to heaven, and replace Jacob with Jesus the REAL.
Genesis 28:10-22
John 1:51
I will study the seven days of creation in Genesis more; in the mean time; God willing, let us keep digging for the treasures of God's word (living and written), as the Spirit reveals them to us.
Greetings in Christ JESUS
I enjoyed your message.Yes, EVERYTHING LITERAL has a parallel and is spiritually discerned, as you have said.The parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples, as you know.
Yes, was not made first which is spiritual,created in the likeness and image of Christ,but natural; in my vision this process remains for ever and ever, as said the wise:Ec.3:15 -That which hath been is now;and that which is to be hath already been;and GOD requireth that which is past.Paul apostle said:Rom.8:v.20-21:- 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity,not willingly,but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.Check it out in John 1:v.12-13.
By the way,John the Baptist said: John 3:v.31-32: -31 He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: He that cometh from above is above all. 32-And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth;...
Now, in this END of the times, the process will be inverse, as said JESUS in Luke 20:v.35-36: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the next world - the Kingdom of GOD - Rev.11:v.15-18), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Ph.3:v.20-21:
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
1Th. 4:v.16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,...17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...to meet the Lord...and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Abide in me and i in you. Now the 12 stones ( the Urim and Thummim were symbolic of the 12 tribes ) But now the world are the 12 tribes .The Israel of God As God so loved the WORLD etc . If i be lifted up ( THE BLOOD ) I will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME th world . The field is the world where that good seed will be sown ,Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to Every creature. Jew and gentile a like . Jesus died for everybody JEW AND GENTILE . In Adam we all died but in Christ we will ALL LIVE.
The Lord tock me ones into the explamantion of the word, black and white. Thank You Dear Jesus. And thanks for this web who have give me the revelations back. I hade almost forgot it.
Revelation 1. 4. It said "John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, from him which is and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;"
from him which is.
from him which is. And not "are". That i have learned.
which is to come.
When He open my eyes it explode in my heart. After that ill read all Different. The word in the Holy Bible was like in a sea, always in motion. Mayby like the wind. And after that i belive in what my heart tell me, who il get from the Holy Scripture. I belive it is the Holy Spirit who is my supervisor. And He give me word for the day who i need or who i need too deliver to someone who need the word.
ps. English is not my mother tongue, please be patient. God Bless you all to understand, in Jesus name.
And today il searched after a word and find it, at once here in the web site. In this thread, Which is " I Am". John 8:12; 9:5.
This is the biggest word that Jesus speak ever. He embraces Everything! When we look up to the sky and see no End in the space. Thats Him too. We look down in the darkest of darkness, and He is King even there. All thing is made for Him. Becose He have added everything under His foot. He Fulfilled the work when He died on the cross. It was the strongest offer someone has made ever! That where when God the Father Him self, have to sacrifice His Only son. I live today becose of that.
Can you imagine what the disiple think when they heard this word. Some of they did not belive it. And il gess they created confusion. Ty they had the Master to look up on. And we have that too, in our heart. God Bless you all
I hope you will share more, the Lord shines right through your English perfectly and uniquely......
God Bless!
And il pray for you all in my heart. And the scripture i longing for and hunger for and ill thirsts for, and sudenly the word come to me easy like a brize. He understand what we fighting against Thank Jesus. And for three days ill look big differences. In the translation. That is sad. Thank you again for comforting word. God bless you and yours.