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  • Rob on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    I read in the Old Testament God speaking that he had no flesh . Yet I can not find it in word searches it never comes up ? I read it not long ago but I can not remember where .

    He said he has no flesh . Or not of flesh , I don't remember the exact wording but the idea was no flesh . Thanks if you can find it for me .
  • Rob - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    I tried searching just the word flesh on multiple search engines and the verse does not show up , what are they hiding ? I guess you have to go to a hard copy to get honest answers .

    Think about it God says he has no flesh , and he changes not ever . That's something to consider .
  • Mishael - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    There's 128 verses with flesh, in the New Testament KJV

    1 Corinthians 15:39

    All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

    Revelation 19:18

    That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

    Romans 8:3

    For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    Romans 8:12

    Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

    2 Corinthians

    For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

    Philippians 3:4

    Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

    Ephesians 2:11

    Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

    Mark 10:8

    And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

    2 Corinthians 5:16

    Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

    Ephesians 2:3

    Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind;
  • GOD39S FORM - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    To Rob: sorry I didn't see your question was about God's flesh. Here's some interesting, thought provoking scriptures.

    Exodus 33

    17 And the LORD said unto MOSES, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.

    18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.

    19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

    20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, AND LIVE.

    21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:

    22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

    23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my BACK PARTS, but my face shall not be seen.

    John 4:24

    GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

    Genesis 15 (ABRAHAM COVENANT)

    8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?

    9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.

    10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.

    12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

    17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces. (God)

    18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying:

    Mishael
  • Rob - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    The verse I'm looking for in the bible is in the Old Testament. I can't remember where I read it , have not found it yet but did come across other verses , like

    Hosea 11 .9 that confirms that verse and Jeremiah 32.27 , numbers 27.16

    Malachi 3.6 and Luke 34.39 from Jesus himself .

    The bottom line is God is Spirit and creator of all things visible and invisible. That's the father .

    Jesus is man and also born of The Spirit of God , and flesh of Mary , but he is not the father either , the father never had or will have flesh .

    Therefore Jesus is the Son of God the only begotten.

    All things Jesus has have been given him from God the father .

    No one gave anything to God the father . He is God alone .

    Amen
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Romans 13:4 - 3 years ago
    Hi Rob,

    I don't think anyone here has ever said Jesus Christ is God the Father. He is the only begotten Son of God. Like you stated flesh from being born of Mary. Though no virgin can give birth to a person. They must be conceived. The Holy Ghost is what conceived Mary. The Holy Ghost is of God. Jesus Christ was not just a human like you or me. He was part human part God.

    I was wondering if it was the same Rob I have had conversations before about the divinity of Christ. In your question about "God not being flesh". Which I believe we all know. Also has nothing to do with Jesus Christ being God the Son.

    He is on the right hand of God. Nothing is above Him and everything is below Him. Just as God the Father as they are ONE. Also the He existed before the world was.

    As I might as well bring this up as well as I know some believe this view. That Jesus Christ received the Holy Ghost at His baptism in the Jordan. Maybe because of the vision John saw of the Spirit descending upon Him. Which to me was just for a testimony. Also as God spoke from Heaven. John the baptist was filled with the Holy Ghost from his mothers womb as in Luke 1:15. I don't understand how anyone could think the Holy Ghost/Spirit of God was not with Jesus Christ from His mothers womb also. Also in that John was born of two human parents. Not as Christ in that God is His real Father. Even showing Jesus knew he was the Son of God in Luke 2:49. As we who are born again, knowing God is our Father, receiving the the Holy Spirit of adoption as in Romans 8:15-16. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and ONE with God the Father. Along with the Holy Ghost. 1 John 5:7.

    No one said anyone gave anything to God the Father.

    God Bless.



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