Bible Discussion Thread

who was the apostl

standing on the sand at the shore?

All of the Book of the Revelation is the account that the Apostle John received in a vision (in the spirit, Rev 1:10) & to "write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter" (v19). So in Revelation 13:1, it was John who saw himself standing on the sea shore when he was also given the vision of the "beast rise up out of the sea" at that time.

Is the vaccine for Covid 19 the mark of the beast?

No one knows for sure. According to the scriptures, key markers of the beast includes:

1. Not being able to buy or sell

2. Something will happen to people who get the mark that will disqualify them.

3. The COVID vaccine will definitely change your DNA.

4. The pandemic was totally fabricated to bring in the vaccines

5. They have something sinister planned (why include nano particles? why change people's DNA? Why include aborted babies and monkey cells?).

6. This vaccine will never end. They will make you get it ever so often.

7. Yes. I believe that the vaccine

Thank you so much for this answer as this is the same thoughts I had. Head or hand. Vaccines are in the arm. I have friends that will refuse this vaccine because of their belief that we will be secretly implanted.

Revelation 14:9

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his FOREHEAD, or in his HAND

(Read that Chapter to be fully informed

The COVID vaccine will NOT be administered into our foreheads, or our hands.

Years ago I prayed and the Lord said it would not be by trickery. If all means of accessing money is cut off; unless you receive a mark or implant...and worship anyone or anything other than God Almighty: then you can ask that question again.

Remember, forehead or hand.

God would not Lie.

Satan is the Father of Lies.

Mishael

In response to the "forehead or hand" ; I don't believe this is literally our foreheads or hands, but rather what we rationalize, give an ear to or believe (forehead) and what are the works of our "hands".

We will have to trust that God will provide for us even when everything will be taken away from us if we don't follow what the world system has ordered us to do.

If we all believe this vaccine is changing DNA and is being forced on us or we cannot keep our jobs, we cannot buy or sell without it, and we walk away from this, then our foreheads and hands will be doing the work of God the Father.

I don't believe that to be so. It will be a vaccine like any other that we have had in the past for protection against disease or virus. However, whether this vaccine will do what it is meant to do, given the speed at which it has to be manufactured & the short testing time, will be questionable.

The mark of the beast, as shown in Revelation chapter 13, will be an identifier, marking out a person as being subject to the Anti-Christ & thus able to continue to live under his authority. By receiving that Mark, a person declares that he desires that the Anti-Christ be his god (even if it is only to survive on the Earth), rather than being a follower resolute in his heart that the Eternal God will only be his. Most people won't have a problem in following & doing what he requires, as they either have no regard for God or being religious, God is unknowable, therefore without a personal relationship with Him in their lives.

What we should be careful on, are the various ways information is gathered on each one of us now & what we are required to have or do that will foster an easier transition to accepting such a Mark. Most things that come to us now have developed over time & according to man's ability & knowledge. And it's in that transitional time that we are also mentally conditioned to accept other developments, & to accept it as normal. In many cases, that's a good progress, e.g. we have slowly progressed from living in simple thatched roofed dwellings to state-of-the-art buildings with all the mod cons. Whereas, some call it progress when once homosexuality was considered a sin & a crime by govts., but now is openly acceptable. People have to be conditioned so as to accept something wrong or sinful, as being otherwise. And so it will be with the Mark, as its implementation will just be a couple of steps away from what we're already conditioned to accept. That's why our final authority in every aspect of our lives is the Word of God which is true & unchangeable.

is covid the 3rd world disease

I don't believe there's anything to suggest that it is a 'third world' disease. It might have begun in China, whether in their 'wet' markets or in a lab, but China shouldn't be considered as in the third world bloc even if it's generally placed so. They are a very advanced nation that can be compared to any 'first world' countries. Covid, as with any other epidemic or pandemic in the past, is just another disease that countries have to deal with, & unfortunately, in all cases, its citizens will suffer both in acquiring the disease or having to take extreme preventative measures.

I feel like we are being led by fear to take these vaccines! If you don't receive one, you won't be able to get on an airplane, no mask, no church, no funeral attendance. How far will we go before we understand that we are being led like sheep to slaughter. I am elderly, I have MS, so if anyone should be afraid it is me, but I don't believe the masks are helping, but do your own research! The so called ones that are in charge of these vaccines are in it for the money! Trying to be the first in line. It doesn't matter that they have not done enough tests before pushing it on people. How about animal testing first. This is coming too fast for me! FEAR is pushing people to not investigate this!!

You could be right Donna. There is a lot of money to be made by these drug companies producing the vaccines, especially when I believe that sufficient testing time has not been given. However, governments are in a quandary: they're responsible for the health & welfare of the people, they want to still allow them to have freedom to move about, but in so doing, this virus cannot be properly contained when people mix closely together. Quite a dilemma & no easy solution for it. I suppose they could have taken the easy, but unwise route, & let everyone live their lives normally, leaving it up to the people to take their own precautions. Many, many more would succumb to the virus & die & then the govt. will get blamed for doing nothing about it. In some countries, govt. rulings are very strict, where liberties are curtailed, but the virus spread is better contained, yet liberties are curtailed. So, what is the correct decision?

So I don't see it as a 'fear induced' rhetoric by the govt. to take the vaccine, but one of necessity. The only problem is: how effective will the vaccine be & what are the effects of it going to be, given the limited testing & fast roll-out. As Christians, in this matter, as with all things that come before us, we remain safe & confident in the Lord's knowledge & help to us. There is nothing that can touch & harm us His children without His Knowledge & permission. He expects us to use the common sense He gives us, follow the proper rulings set before us, & express full trust in Him for our lives & outcomes. Even in your vulnerable position with health issues, the same Lord is "rich towards all" - He will keep you as you trust Him for the future - stay vigilant - be prayerful.

Here is what I see is going to happen. This vaccine for Covid 19 has nano particles in it, is to get your body use to the chip (so your body will not refuse the chip) that is in the vaccine. They say the chip is to let them know that you have already had the first shot. But here is the thing, the people that refuse the vaccine will be flagged and the government will issue that it is mandatory that you receive this vaccine. If you still refuse to take this vaccine then the military will come in and take you to a concentration camp (as for Biden)