Discuss Titus 2 Page 4

  • Gigi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I agree, no matter where you are in your Christ walk, reading of His life in the gospels is always wise. He is the author and finisher of it faith (Heb.12:2)

    He is our Lord and our God

    ( John 20:28) He is the Resurrection and the Life ( John 11:25) He is the brightness of God's glory and the express image of God's Person ( Hebrews 1:3) he is worshipped by all the angels

    ( Hebrews 1:6) He is our Great God and Savior ( Titus 2:13-14) He is King of kings and Lord Of lords ( Rev. 19:16)



    And so much more. Therefore should we not have great interest and earnest desire to read of His life, words and actions from the Gospels often?

    For me, I love all sections of the Bible, but lovebtheGspels the most. It is here in the Gospels that I intake the truth of my Savior and become familiar with Him as the One I worship, adore, follow, serve, and hold out to others to come to know by faith.

    It is Jesus that we should know the most about. We should be thoroughly familiar with His life in the Gospels so that we can better understand the teachings about Hom in the Epistles, Revelation, and OT. This is why I always suggest that people wishing to know the Bible better begin with the Gospels.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Jim,

    John 1:1 already said Jesus is God. That's all I need to know. When it says the Word was God, do you think it means the Word was 'not' God? If that is your interpretation, can you please explain how you honestly arrive at that?

    I noticed you didn't comment on the more than 20 verses I posted previously. Did you hover over each of them? Each support that Jesus is God. For instance the plural 'we' in Genesis.

    So, let's pretend for a moment that the 4 verses you last shared flat out said Jesus isn't God. If that were true we would then have 20 or more verses supporting that He is God, and then your 4 supporting that He isn't. Which do you then choose to believe: the one with more scriptural support, or the one with less?

    But your four verses do not say Jesus isn't God, you are just interpreting that way. It also takes some mental gymnastics in my opinion to arrive at that. It must involve ignoring and absolutely disregarding much scripture, like the 20+ verses I shared. There are many more not yet shared which also support Jesus being God. There are so many pieces of evidence throughout the Bible, like the miracles, perfection, dying for you, resurrection, He was worshipped as being God ever since being a baby, people calling Him Lord and God, on and on.

    1 Timothy 2:5 - the man Jesus Christ. He did become a man and He is a mediator to the Father. Both man and God. Titus 2:13

    Let's say that you honestly read the entire Bible and weighed all the evidence and support, and prayed for wisdom about it. If you found that the Bible has more support for Jesus being God would you choose to believe it?

    Do you believe God has limited power, or do you think God has the ability to be in a form we created beings don't have a framework to understand? For example of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were one, 1 John 5:7.

    Do you believe Jesus is Lord as Romans 10:9 says? Do you believe He died for you for the forgiveness of your sins?

    God bless...
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Yes, Bro Dan. We are saved by Jesus. We are given grace that produces faith in us to believe in Jesus and the truth of all of what He did to redeem us. None of us on this forum say otherwise. Yet, once we come into this salvation, we also have grace that empowers us to live for God according to the holy way He proscribes. ( Titus 2:11-12)

    When you and I speak of water baptism, we are not substituting this rite for anything Jesus has done for out salvation. But, many who reject it continue to accuse us of doing so. But, here, again I state it so no one will misconstrue what my viewpoint. When we speak of water baptism, you and I know that this was the apostolic practice in all of the churches in the first century and continued to be the practice for new believers throughout the centuries up to this day. Those who say this is not so are at odds with the historical witness of the church written about again and again throughout the church age. Those who say that the word baptism means something different in the original Greek are not referring to the most common definition used during those centuries. They are using a definition that suits their viewpoint. I do not believe them on this.

    The handful of us who have posted on this site to support water baptism are appealing to readers to consider that if one testifies to be "in Christ" and wishes to live His way, then certainly one should be willing to do what He asks of us and comply with what He demonstrated for us in His own baptism and command to the apostles to baptize believers in the way He has done, which was water baptism. I am sure that all of the apostles, disciples, and Paul, wo were called to spread the gospel knew exactly what Jesus meant when He said to baptize new believers. It was water baptism, just as they all were water baptized. I doubt any of them did anything else in lieu of water baptism. They knew and acknowledged that ALL authority was given to Jesus, so none of them could change is command
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Kimberlee.

    I believe you are referring to this verse.

    1 Timothy 2:11-14.

    I believe that refers to Pastoring the Church. " Where men and women gather in a group setting".

    I don't think this is necessarily the church building, If the building was destroyed the church still exists in the gathering of the people. In 1 Corinthians it mentions Churches. "Plural" perhaps meaning, where ever they gather.

    1 Corinthians 14:33-36. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all "CHURCHES" of the saints.

    Let your women keep silence in the "CHURCHES": for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

    And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

    What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

    That doesn't say they don't minister or teach other women.

    Titus 2:3-4. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, TEACHERS of good things;

    That they may TEACH the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

    I don't think it's because they can't teach.

    When you look at 1 Corinthians 14:1-40.

    It seems it's to keep things orderly is the context. And then It may have more to do with Genesis 3:16. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; "AND THY DESIRE SHALL BE TO THY HUSBAND," and he shall rule over thee.

    Some say this is to rule over.

    My assertion is speculative.

    God bless.
  • Wilbur - 3 years ago
    Comment Part 16 continued

    1 Corinthians 14:33-40 KJV

    [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. [36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? [37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. [38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. [39] Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. [40] Let all things be done decently and in order.

    1 Timothy 2:9-15 KJV

    [9] In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; [10] But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. [11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. [15] Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    Titus 2:3-5 KJV

    [3] The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; [4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, [5] To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Rick, There have been "laws" from God in all ages since Adam and Eve. Commands and laws are spoken interchangeably to refer to the Law of Moses and so therefore, any command of God is a "law".

    God commanded Adam and Even to not eat from the tree of Knowledge of good and evil. This was a one time "law".

    God gave Noah commands after the flood. These were "laws" for all mankind. God gave Abraham a command to sacrifice Abraham. This was a one time "law". Abraham knew He was to obey God, and he did and his obedience demonstrated his faith in God.

    God wrote the 10 commandments with His own "finger" for Moses and these were "laws" for all time.

    Jesus gave stated that to be saved one needs to believe and be baptized, and commanded His disciples to baptize all who believer. This was a "law" for all of the church for all time. He told His disciples that those who love Him will keep His commands, (again laws).



    I do not despise the words "laws" or "commands". Unbelievers and evil doers do. Nor do I despise obeying the moral commands of God. Unbelievers and evil doers do. Grace did not change our obligation to obey God in the commands He gave us, especially those given by Jesus in the gospels. Nor did it change how God deals with mankind, as you imply. What changed is that grace is given to those God chooses to save. This grace regenerates us, creates faith in us to believe, cleanses us from our sins, and allows the Holy Spirit to dwell in us, having been made holy. This grace sanctifies us and empowers us to say "no" to ungodliness and "yes" to what is what God says is the right thing to do. ( Titus 2:11-14) ( Titus 3:4-7) (1 Thess.4:1-2) ( Gal. 6:7-10) (Rom.7:22-25) Without grace, we would all remain enemies of God. But grace brings us God' redemption in
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear William, Chris, and Rick,

    It is interesting to read these responses because even though you seem to disagree, I think you all do agree. In Crist we are finally free to live as God would call us to live. Therefore, by the power of God's grace given through the Spirit in us, we can obey God in ways higher than even the good and holy Law (10 commandments). Therefore, we can follow what is said in Titus 2:11-14.

    "For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously and godly in this present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works."

    This verse tells us that grace trains us to do what is truly godly in God's eyes. So, we will not murder or hate, but love; we will not be sexually immoral or lust, but faithfully fulfill the needs of our spouse; we will not make graven images as idols nor worship self, but we will be devoted to God above all else; we will not lie and or be deceptive, but we will be honest and true to what we profess. So, by the Spirit we will obey the 10 commandments as a way of life, and then some, because we have been made a new creature in Christ, not longer a slave to sinful desires, but are free to be obedient to God's will. We will sin against God's will at times. Most ways that we sin will be found in the spirit and not just the letter of the 10 commands of God. But, praise God, we will not be captured again by sin as before we were saved! We can confess and be forgiven. We have a power in us that is not of us that makes us stronger than the evil desires we are tempted with. We will increasingly have victory over sin. As we are changed bit by bit to be more and more like Jesus. The Law does not save us, only Jesus does.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Genesis 4:17 left without name

    Here is scripture & thought on the matter for deeper questions that are taught on this issue.

    Genesis 1:26-28, Genesis 2:7,8,15,16,18,21,22,23,24, notice in Genesis 1:27-28, says male & female & have dominion over & subdue over the sea, air, and living thing that moveth on the earth. Then HE put 'the man" in garden. Was this a certain man & his wife seperated in a special garden? Notice in Genesis 1:29 all fruit from every tree was good for meat. However in the Garden that HE planted Genesis Genesis 2:8-9, he put the man he had formed & breathed life into him & he became a living soul. Genesis 2:7,

    Genesis 4:15 presence of other people,

    Hebrews 13:8, John 1:1-5, Leviticus 18, establishes GOD's law, James 1:13-16,

    Luke 1:69, Psalms 89:24-27, Titus 2:11-12, Hebrews 5,

    Genesis 4:25,26, 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, one lineage from Adam to Seth to Jesus recorded lineage of redemption Matthew, we are adopted heirs through Christ, Ephesians 1:5

    Many agree this lineage was significant to show fall of mankind & redemption

    John 21:25

    Hopefully this is helpful to your question.

    ,
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello,

    I agree that believers are to endeavor to live godly lives, saying no to sin, and yes to wat is good and right according to what as been revealed in God's moral law. Jesus said that those who truly love Him will obey His commandments (written in the Law given to Moses). He summed these up by saying Loving God with all of our hearts, soul, mind, and body and loving our neighbor as ourselves. Those who claim to be in Christ and continue to live sinful, worldly lives sow that they do not love Jesus. They may say it is o.k. because they are under grace not Law. But Scripture plainly says:

    "For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness (sin) and worldly lusts (worldly desires), we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every deed (sin) and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works."

    Titus:11-14

    Many churches today do not exhort their members to stop sinning (that blaspheme the Word of God Titus 2:5) instead live obedient lives (that glorify God). Sin is downplayed so much in this generation that most people do not think it is as deadly as it is in all forms. We should want to do what is of life, not what is of death, because God has sown us mercy and given us grace in Jesus Christ.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Rick,

    I agree. Jesus Christ is our blessed hope ( Titus 2:13). 1 Corinthians 15:14 also comes to mind.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Timothy. Here are some Scriptures for you to consider:

    1 Corinthians 6:12; Titus 2:11,12; 1 Peter 5:8,9; James 1:12-15; James 4:7,8; 1 Peter 2:11; Romans 13:12-14; Romans 12:1,2.

    All these Scriptures show how a Christian can live above the sinful cravings of the heart & mind - when we know that we need help & that help is beyond any power we can muster up, then we must cry to the Lord our God, submit fully to Him & daily trust Him to deliver us of anything that opposes godliness.

    I had a few addictions to surrender to the Lord when I was saved by His Spirit; some things left off immediately, others took a little longer. But remember "it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." Philippians 2:13. God will by His Spirit help an earnest repentant soul. If He is in the business of pulling out wayward souls from the coming fires of Hell through His Son's Sacrifice, He will certainly not forget a struggling child who is still ensnared by the wicked one.

    Our strength to resolve our issues very quickly diminishes - God's great Power to deliver & heal awaits all who look only to Him & submit to His Will. And when temptation knocks at our door, we are reminded in 1 Corinthians 10:13, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." But the part of that verse that tests our genuineness, is whether we see, acknowledge & use the door of escape that God provides for us. When that sin or addiction becomes something most hateful in us, we're on the road to physical, mental & spiritual recovery.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} blasphemy of The Holy Spirit - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 12:31

    Precious friends, How can a "member" of The Body Of Christ, whose sins have ALL "Been FORGIVEN," then commit an Unpardonable sin which can NEVER "be forgiven"?

    According To God's Sound Doctrine of His Free Gift Of ETERNAL Life, we do Not have 'temporary life conditioned' on "committing the Unpardonable sin."

    If man's 'idea of temporary life' is true, then that would NEGATE A Vast Multitude Of God's Scriptures, In His Sound Doctrine of God's ETERNAL Salvation: Link

    Conclusion:

    The "blasphemy of The Holy Ghost" is committed by Unbelievers who reject The Gospel of The GRACE Of God, and The ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Of CHRIST, for Forgiveness.

    It is then IMPOSSIBLE for one With God's ETERNAL Life "Bestowed Upon them Forever" By God Himself, to commit "the Unpardonable sin, which can NEVER be Forgiven! Makes no sense, Correct?

    However, a saint "in sin" Can:



    1) GRIEVE Ephesians 4:30, And

    2) Even QUENCH The Spirit Of God 1 Thessalonians 5:19, with results of

    3) "losing reward when they arrive in Heaven, and stand at The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST!" 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 Amen?

    Therefore:

    "For The GRACE Of God that bringeth Salvation Hath Appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that Blessed Hope, and The Glorious Appearing of The Great God and our Saviour JESUS CHRIST; Who Gave Himself for us, that He might Redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works." Titus 2:11-14

    Amen?

    Please accept my apologies for the previous errors...
  • D W L - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 3 years ago
    Jonah called of God, but was 100% out of God's will going to Tarshish at that God prepared a great fish to save Jonah. That don't mean he was right.

    Matthew 19:7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

    19:8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but (from the beginning it was not so.)

    Women have a place in the home and work of the Lord, but to be in authority over the man is forbidden by the written word. ( 1 Timothy 5:14) ( Titus 2:3-5)
  • Mishael - In Reply on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    Me too. I'm rather fond of all kinds of critters.
  • Adam - In Reply on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    Great explanation and history lesson.

    Unfortunately hearsay sometimes interferes with how people remember the Bible. For instance some say 'God helps people who help themselves' or 'Money is the root of all evil' or the '3 wisemen that visited baby Jesus' or 'asking Jesus into your heart'. And none of those are in the Bible. Like the telephone game, it usually starts with the truth of scripture, but then it gets changed and morphed through hearsay into something else. So, glad we have God's word today that hasn't changed and still means what it says.
  • ISAIAH 11:6 DISCOVERY - In Reply on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    The verse you speak of is Isaiah 11:6, and it does not say the Lion will lay down with the lamb.

    Here is the history of the error:

    The Hebrew text used the word "z-'" (wolf) as the animal dwelling with the lamb, so if one compares the most modern translations to the ancient Hebrew text, they are accurate. It is apparent that the commonly memorized phrase, "the lion shall lay down with the lamb" never existed in the Bible text. So how did this happen? How are so many people using a memorized "verse" that does not exist?"

    The "lion shall lay down with the lamb" is a lyric made popular by the 1937 song, "Peace in the Valley" written by Thomas A. Dorsey for Mahalia Jackson. It was first made popular by Red Foley and the Sunshine Boys in 1951 after being recorded by Sam Cooke of the Soul Stirrers in 1950 and rising to limited success. But it wasn't until Elvis Presley recorded the song on his first Christmas Album with the Jordanaires that "Peace in the Valley" received worldwide fame.

    This is a really catch for you. I remember that song from my childhood. I'm 70 :D Learn something new every day, right.

    ISAIAH 11

    6. The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
  • Jerry Foley on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    Ive always heard that the bible teachs that( the lion shall lay with the lamb) were does it say this in the bible? Thank you.
  • Messenger - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 1 - 3 years ago
    You are replying to a comment by "Ronald Bearden"

    to answer your question Ronald:

    according to acts 2 when they were speaking in tongues,

    both man and woman were present.

    Noticed what the prophet Joel prophesied.

    Acts 2:16-18

    all people can teach what they have learned from the bible.

    but as far as authority. Adam was created first then eve was created as a

    helper for Adam to take care of the earth- Genesis 2:18

    what about "within" the congregation?

    Ephesians 5:22-24; Titus 2:3-5

    1 Timothy 3 within the Christian congregation or church...appointed ministers takes the lead in teaching the congregation or church. when a woman learn in silence 1Timothy 2:11, 12

    within the congregation, this helps keep the congregation orderly. so in this instance. A woman doesn't have authority over a men within the congregation to teach nor over her husbands at home. however, husbands love their wives and listens to their concerns just as Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) taught Abraham Gen. 21:8-12. Even Jesus; when he was at a house or on the roads he listened and asked woman questions. woman like Martha, Mary Magdalene, the Samaritan woman. he taught them and spoke to them with kindness. John 11:27; Luke 10:38-42.

    if a woman sees something or has a question

    ...she can ask her husband at home.

    1Corinthians 14:33-35

    Hope this Helps. the bible is a light and shines for all to see.

    john 3:16,17
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

    Prophecy/Law: 15) The Two "Main" (of 12) baptismS = A) water, For remission of sins! ( Matthew 3:5-6 Mark 1:4 Luke 3:3 John 1:31 Luke 7:29-30 Acts 10:37 Matthew 28:19 Mark 16:16 Acts 2:38 Acts 22:16 Ezekiel 36:25)

    B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3 Matthew 3:11 Mark 1:8, 16:17-18 Luke 24:49 Acts 2:17-18, 38 Acts 8:15-17 Acts 11:16)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From {RDf} "Things That DIFFER!":

    Mystery/GRACE!: 15) Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST! ( Ephesians 4:5 Colossians 2:12 Galatians 3:27 Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13) 'ONE' = not two...

    Prophecy/Law: 16) Forgive others First, Then God Will Forgive! ( Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 16) Forgive others Because CHRIST Has Already Forgiven us! ( Ephesians 4:32)

    Prophecy/Law: 17) Taught how/what to pray! ( Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE!: 17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!" ( Philippians 4:6) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

    17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought," But "The Spirit Intercedeth For us, According To The Will Of God!..." ( Romans 8:26)

    Prophecy/Law {earthly!}: 18) "watchmen," {as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth!}, looking for The "wicked one, the deceiving man of Sin" And "signs" ( Matthew 24)

    RDf Mystery/GRACE {Heavenly!}: 18) ambassadors {As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven!} Looking, Watching, & Waiting For The Holy One, The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven!} ( Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11; 2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13)

    Please Be RichlyEncouraged!

    Heavenly GRACE/Mystery fellowship, today? ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9)
  • SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE RAPTURE - In Reply on Mark 1 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 5:10

    John 14:1-3

    Luke 10:20

    Mark 13: 32-37

    Revelation 3: 10

    Matthew 24: 1-51

    Philippians 3:20-21

    Romans 8: 18-19

    Acts 1: 7-11

    Daniel 12: 1-2

    1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

    1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18

    Revelation 12: 1-17

    Revelation 19: 1-21

    1 John 1: 3:3

    Titus 2:13

    Matthew 16:27

    Colossians 3:2-4

    Luke 21: 34-36

    James 4:8

    Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25

    John 3:16

    We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.

    On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)

    Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.

    FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.

    [hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,

    Mishael
  • Prophesy Chart of Jesus with scripture showing when fulfilled - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Going by the left numbering, this shows the prophesy on the left, and the fulfillment of the prophesy on the left.

    Turn your phone sideways to see the chart wider

    175. Isa 9:6A child born-HumanityLuke 1:31

    176. Isa 9:6A Son given-DeityLuke 1:32; John 1:14; 1 Tim 3:16

    177. Isa 9:6Declared to be the Son of God with powerRom 1:3-4

    178. Isa 9:6The Wonderful One, PelehLuke 4:22

    179. Isa 9:6The Counselor, YaatzMatt 13:54

    180. Isa 9:6The Mighty God, El Gibor1 Cor 1:24; Titus 2:3

    181. Isa 9:6The Everlasting Father, Avi AdthJohn 8:58; 10:30

    182. Isa 9:6The Prince of Peace, Sar ShalomJohn 16:33

    Google Old Testament Prophesies of Jesus

    Mishael
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    RLW: "we will be here and we must be prepared":

    Now, this is quite interesting, what is your take, RLW, on three of your so-called "prophecy Experts," who Will Be Here, and the "way THEY teach to be prepared"?:

    (1) says to {SELFishly?} "hoard UP SEVEN years worth of food for the coming famine"

    (2) says to "FLEE from the cities to the protection of the RURAL areas"

    (3) says to "FLEE from the U.S. To the safety of Ethiopia"???

    (4) maybe you have "another idea" for preparedness?

    --------------------------------

    Now, those of us, In The Body Of CHRIST:

    (A) who are looking, watching, and waiting patiently For The LORD JESUS CHRIST ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1) ( Romans 8:18-19) ( Romans 8:23) ( Romans 8:25) ( 1 Corinthians 1:7) ( Ephesians 6:12-18) ( Philippians 3:20) ( Colossians 4:1-3) ( 1 Thessalonians 1:10) ( 1 Thessalonians 5:5-11) ( Titus 2:13)

    (B) To Take us home to Heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:1) ( 2 Corinthians 5:2) ( Ephesians 1:3) ( Ephesians 1:20) ( Ephesians 2:6) ( Philippians 3:20) ( Colossians 1:5) ( 2 Timothy 4:18)

    Believe OUR "preparation" should be to:

    (1) Stay where God Has Called us, preaching The Gospel Of GRACE ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4) ( Ephesians 2:8-9), to the lost,

    (2) "studying" God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15), avoiding ALL of the above Confusion, And:

    (3) Using our {God-Given} resources to, In "ONE WORD - LOVE our neighbor" ( Galatians 5:14) ( Romans 13:8-10), and {UNselfishly!} teaching/helping those in need!! ALL in "preparation" for:

    (C) Judgment ( 1 Corinthians 3:7-15) for "rewards" for these! Amen?

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified!
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    According to the Bible it may depend on the situation:

    1 Corinthians 11:5 - women pray and prophesy

    Titus 2:3 - women teachers of good things

    1 Timothy 2:11-14 - women not teaching

    1 Corinthians 14:33-35 - women silent in churches
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious brother Chris, thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement! I did have your verse in my list of over 150 Scriptures for The LORD JESUS CHRIST As Being The Almighty God! It was #:

    113. JESUS CHRIST is Called "My God" ( John 20:28). Since there is "no other God" ( Isaiah 45:5) ( Isaiah 45:21-22), This Plainly And Clearly Declares, According To The Word Of Truth, That JESUS CHRIST is That God.

    Your Excellent statement: "We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God," can Certainly be connected With Confirming Scriptures, about "rebuking worship," {# 9 on my Previous list...}:

    "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." ( Revelation 19:10)

    "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. ( Revelation 22:8-9)

    May you and all who "believe God's Word Of Truth," Please Be Richly Encouraged and Edified, waiting for our Great God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST! ( Titus 2:13)

    brother Chris Endrizzi
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hey, Nice Name, Forgive me for not addressing you by it but the site might not let me.

    But l would like to draw you guys attention to something, First of all I believe you are correct and the context of the question and answer is PREACHING.

    Glenn mentioned TEACHING. There's a difference between the two.

    Here's two scriptures to keep in mind.

    Titus 2:3-5. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, TEACHERS OF GOOD THINGS;

    ( THAT THEY MAY TEACH THE YOUNG WOMEN.)to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

    To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

    AND.

    1 Timothy 2:11-12. LET THE WOMAN LEARN IN SILENCE WITH ALL SUBJECTION.

    BUT I SUFFER NOT A WOMAN TO TEACH, NOR TO USURP AUTHORITY OVER THE MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE.

    So in a way you are both right.

    Now I believe this to be in the body, The structure in the universal Church, Whether at home or away.

    "Elder women or to teach the younger to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

    To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

    But they are not to teach in general. How are they going to teach when they are asked to be silent?

    BUT THAT DONT MAKE THEM NO LESS VALUE THAN A MAN BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE.

    A Marriage should model Christ and the Church.

    God bless.
  • Glenn - In Reply on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    Comfort
  • Dianne - In Reply on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    Sheila In relationship to Gods people to serve in any capacity, supply needs of spiritually teaching Gods Word, physically food other capacities, we all serve in the Body of Christ some in greater capacities than others. God Bless There is much more to be shared on this subject matter.
  • Sheila Price on Titus 2 - 3 years ago
    What does word minister mean, biblical
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Connie.

    We all minister to the saints, You can do that without uttering a word! You're ministering when you're helping, There's no office or gift that stands out above another being that God gave the Church these Ministers and also the gifts.

    Joel 2:28 " I will pour out my spirit on

    " ALL "flesh, Have that happen yet? I'm afraid not. Has "ALL" Israel began to Prophecy? No but they will during the Millennium.

    Peter said in

    Acts 2:16. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; " IT IS LIKE THAT OF JOEL'S PROPHECY.

    God said "I will pour my spirit upon ALL flesh" This parallels with Ezekiel 37. They're in the land but have they received the Spirit? NO.

    Ezekiel 37:14. AND SHALL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

    Joel 2:27-28. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of ISRAEL, AND THAT I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD, and none else: and MY PEOPLE SHALL NEVER BE ASHAMED.

    And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

    ( THIS IS DURING THE MILLENNIUM )

    HERE'S THE CHURCH INSTRUCTIONS.

    Ephesians 4:11-12. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

    Paul says the Older woman is to teach the younger.

    Titus 2:3-4.

    1 Timothy 2:11-15. Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    GB.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 3 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 3

    Jesus confirmed the last 3.5 years through His apostles ending when Stephen was killed, Paul was converted, Peter had his dream the conformation to Judah ended and the gospel was sent to the Gentiles. This fulfills the 70=weeks 490/483 years

    We have been told to study, we are told to test the spirits, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray. These are the six things that were determined on Judah and the holy city Jerusalem, a few verses that may help see if this has been fulfilled by Jesus.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    The 70 th week has been used along with other Bible verses to paint a fantastic picture of end times. The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, 3.5-year covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3.5 years great tribulation after breaking covenant, and more. Many of these teachings started in the late 1600s. I hope this helps, if this prophecy has been fulfilled, it will show the falsehoods of these teachings because without using part of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel, these teachings will fall apart.

    Acts.3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    RLW


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