Discuss Romans 8 Page 42

  • Mishael Copy this and tape it to the Fridge door - 4 years ago
    COPY this down & put it on your fridge.

    Satans time is short and he's doing all he can to make us unemployed, sick, scared, suicidal,addicted,sad

    1 Samuel 18:4 Exchanging Armor

    And Jonathan stripped himself of the ROBE that was on him and gave it to David, and his ARMOR, and even his SWORD and his BOW and his BELT.

    Jesus exchanged HIS armor with US. Why?

    Because we are warring against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:10-18. Read ALL those center column references to other Books. See Isaiah 24:21-22. Romans 13:1-5,11-12; John 12:31

    Jesus did not leave us here to just wear a wedding garment and hold a lamp of oil.

    He left us scripture that we're to do spiritual war in the heavenlies. It's about strong faith and prayer: intercession; "standing in the gap". Jesus is making intercession for us right now! People come into the prayer room with grievous problems we SHOULD BE praying & doing war for. Ephesians 6:12, Romans 8:38, Colossians 1:9, 16-17; 2:15. 1 Thessalonians 5:8

    Standing in the gap is when you hold a lamb in your arms of prayer, and war against the demonic hoards that are trying to kill it; steal its life, destroy its hope in Jesus! It should make you want to save that lamb. Do you have any "lambs" in your life? Are you willing to snatch it out of the hands of Satans hoard of demons, WITH the WORD of God?

    You have a wealth of Bible Knowledge but are any lambs being saved with weighty speech? Don't you want to receive a Crown at Bema Seat? What would Jesus do? He showed us in His Gospels. If we are His followers we will imitate what he was Doing.

    Multitudes of people are committing suicide for unbelievable reasons. That's on Satans scoreboard. Is there anyone who will challenge that? Do you know how to take the scriptures and frighten the demons off of someone on a chair with a rope around their neck? Or a hypodermic needle going in an arm.

    Parents!Pray rightly for your kids. Punch out Satan! We have permission!
  • Mishael on Bible Covenants on Matthew 24:12 - 4 years ago
    Very enlightening to google Bible Covenants! Covenants are very binding and that's why we are warned to not enter one lightly.

    1 Samuel 18:4 Exchanging Armor

    And Jonathan stripped himself of the ROBE that was on him and gave it to David, and his ARMOR, and even his SWORD and his BOW and his BELT.

    Jesus exchanged HIS armor with US. Why?

    Because we are warring against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:10-18. Read ALL those center column references to other Books. See Isaiah 24:21-22. Romans 13:1-5,11-12; John 12:31

    Jesus did not leave us here to just wear a wedding garment and hold a lamp of oil.

    He left us scripture that we are to war against spiritual war in the heavenlies. It's about strong faith and prayer: intercession; "standing in the gap". Jesus is making intercession for us right now! People come into the prayer room with grievous problems we SHOULD BE praying & doing war for. Ephesians 6:12, Romans 8:38, Colossians 1:9, 16-17; 2:15. 1 Thessalonians 5:8

    Standing in the gap is when you hold a lamb in your arms of prayer, and war against the demonic hoards that are trying to kill it; steal its life, destroy its hope in Jesus! It should make you want to save that lamb. Do you have any lambs in your life? Are you willing to snatch it out of the hands of Satans hoard of demons, WITH the WORD of God?

    You have a wealth of Bible Knowledge but are any lambs being saved with weighty speech? Don't you want to receive a Crown at Bema Seat? What would Jesus do? He showed us in His Gospels. If we are His followers we will imitate what he was Doing.

    Multitudes of people just in America, are committing suicide for unbelievable reasons. That's on Satans scoreboard. Is there anyone who will challenge that? Do you know how to take the scriptures and frighten the demons off of someone on a chair with a rope around their neck? Or a hypodermic needle going in an arm.

    Parents!Pray rightly for your kids. Punch out Satan
  • Mishael to Christy - In Reply on Psalms 70 - 4 years ago
    Jeremiah 29:11

    "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope."

    Jeremiah 33:6

    "Behold, I will bring it health and healing; I will heal them and reveal to them the abundance of peace and truth."

    Mark 4:39

    "Then He arose and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, 'Peace, be still!' And the wind ceased and there was a great calm."

    Luke 1:79

    "To give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace."

    Romans 5:1

    "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."

    Romans 8:6

    "For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace."

    Romans 14:17

    "For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

    Read more about this verse.

    Romans 16:20

    "And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen."

    Read more about this verse.

    1 Corinthians 14:33

    "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints."

    Read more about this verse.

    2 Corinthians 13:11

    "Finally, brethren, farewell. Become complete. Be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you."

    Read more about this verse.

    Galatians 5:22

    "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness."

    Read more about this verse.

    Ephesians 2:14

    "For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation."

    Ephesians 4:3, 6:15

    "Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace."

    Say these out loud: eye gate, ear gate, mouth gate. may you be lifted in the spirit of your mind, as you listen.
  • Mishael on Psalms 70 - 4 years ago
    Pray these scriptures out loud, until you know them by heart.

    Luke 6:18

    as well as those who were tormented with unclean spirits. And they were healed.

    Luke 9:11

    But when the multitudes knew it, they followed Him; and He received them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who had need of healing.

    John 8:36

    If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

    Acts 5:16

    Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.

    Romans 8:11

    But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

    Romans 8:2

    For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    2 Corinthians 4:10-11

    always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.

    Philippians 4:7

    And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

    James 5:13-15

    Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

    1 Thessalonians 5:23

    Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    2 Timothy 1:7

    For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
  • Chris - In Reply on Titus 3 - 4 years ago
    Willie, in Matthew 5:17,18, Jesus spoke to His disciples concerning the full meaning & requirements of God's Laws. Jesus spoke about the preciousness of God's Laws & that not one of them would be removed until they were completely fulfilled. We know that the Law was given to God's Chosen, the Jews, as one of the marks of identification with Him. But it was given not only for their understanding of their relationship to their Creator, but also in their relationship to their fellow men. And they soon found out that they couldn't fully obey God's Laws because they were sinners & had no hope to obey Holy Laws. So every year sacrifice was made by the High Priest on their behalf for their sins.

    So, all these Laws, including those that applied to their ceremonies, sacrifices & moral behaviour, were given as a temporary measure as God planned for the future when His Son, Jesus Christ, would come into the World to be the Perfect & Final Sacrifice for mankind's sins ( Rom 5:6). Also read Romans 8:3.

    Then what you're reading in Mt 5, is Jesus saying that He had come to fulfil God's Laws: He fulfilled prophecy given about Him & alone could completely obey God's Laws & therefore would never need to sacrifice for Himself, simply because he never sinned. In fact, His Love was so great for us, that He willingly became the sacrifice in death in our stead - for our sins: He became our Substitute, our Saviour to save us from sin's penalty which is eternal death. So, if Jesus perfectly fulfilled God's Laws & became our Sacrifice, then all who believe in Him through His Blood, are also now freed from the curse of the Law ( Gal 3:13). In other words, if we still want to obey the 'old Law' to satisfy God or contribute to God accepting us, then Christ's death is counted as nothing. However, Rom 8:4 says, that "the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us"; the letter of the Law failed, but the Law of the Life giving Spirit (8:2) is put in our hearts to help us correctly obey God.
  • Diana Chophy - In Reply on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Thank you for sharing your testimony
  • Rj on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Could someone explain predestination to me? Does that mean that someone could be thinking they are saved but are not? Could that mean we are praying for some that have no chance? I must have this wrong, how will someone know if they are truly saved? How do i explain this to those who ask me?
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Psalms 63 - 4 years ago
    The right hand is the dominant hand for most people. In battle, the right arm would wield the sword or draw the bowstring to shoot the arrow. A king would hold his sceptre in his right hand as a symbol of his power. To be placed at the right hand of the king would signify honor and authority given.

    In Genesis 48, Israel placed his right hand of blessing on the head of Joseph's younger son Ephraim while his left hand was on the head of the firstborn son Manasseh. His right hand deliberately conferred a greater blessing on Ephraim.

    Jesus Christ is the embodiment of God's right hand of power as Colossians 1 makes evident. He is also elevated to the right hand of God's throne in Heaven as declared in Romans 8:34, Ephesians 1:20, Colossians 3:1, Hebrews 1:3 and elsewhere in the scripture. David trusted the LORD as his Savior and prophetically includes this aspect of the LORD's nature in his psalms.
  • Albert - In Reply on Acts 19:2 - 4 years ago
    To receive Christ is to receive His Spirit. One cannot receive Christ without receiving the gift of the HolyGhost. If we do not receive Christ, we are none of His ( Romans 8:9). There are two different Spirits. This same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead is the same Spirit that was poured out on Pentecost(Acts2:1-4). I have received of the same Spirit, the HolySpirit. I have witnessed countless others receive the Same Spirit that fell on the Day of Pentecost. Jesus spoke of another Comforter ( John 14:16-18; Acts 1:8) that was available to all who would receive it. He said repentance and remissions of sins would be preached in His name ( Luke 24:47) beginning at Jerusalem. This gospel has been preached for over two thousand years. I have witnessed people being healed from all forms of disease: cancer, aids, Lukemia, etc. I witnessed demons cast out of people who were possessed with them. I have witnessed the amazing power of the HolyGhost transform gang members into preachers; prostitutes into missionaries; drunkards into deacons; lost souls mixed up in Islam, New Age, Buddhism, and other false doctrines in born again believers. The same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead; is raising believers in the newness of life. I seen miracles wrought right before my eyes: I have seen the blind( literally blind, a man that has a glass eye and his other eye totally blind) see out of both, legally blind eyes. I have a man's leg grow to meet the length of his good leg. I have witnessed barren women give birth to not one, but three children. I have seen God raise people from Comas, from literally death( one woman was dead for 12 minutes resuscitate to life after I prayed for her in the name of our Risen Savior Jesus Christ. He said greater works would we do. The Bible is a living, God-breathed book; it is not like Shakespeare, Milton, Steinbeck, or Melville. It is the power of God. This is why I talk about receiving the HolyGhost-it is the life changing power of God.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Acts 19:2 - 4 years ago
    There is only one place in the bible that specifically gives us the purpose for tongues, and that is 1 Corinthians 14:22. Acts Chapter 2 is a perfect example of the proper use of "tongues." Unfortunately, the church today does not conform to the biblical use of speaking in tongues. Many today are in total violation of 1 Cor. 14:22. The tongues that are being taught today are not the tongues of the bible. The verses you have shared make no mention at all about tongues being the evidence that a believer has received the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.

    When a person receives Christ, they receive His Spirit. If we are trusting God's promise to give us His Spirit when we call out to Him to save us, why would we need evidence? Wouldn't seeking for evidence be the same as not trusting God to fulfill His promise to give us His Spirit? If we require evidence of our salvation, then how can we say we have faith? God's promise in Romans 10:13 is that all who call upon Him shall be saved. That is His promise. He gives us His Spirit. Without His Spirit, there is no salvation, and we are given that in Romans 8:9. You mentioned Acts 2:38 which is a great verse to show that those who repent are promised God's Spirit. That is all we are promised to receive. Many people today are being deceived by the teachings on "tongues" which is causing them to doubt their salvation because they are being told that tongues is the evidence of their salvation. There are three point-blank facts about speaking in tongues that the bible gives us.

    Number one: It is a known language. Not necessarily known to the person speaking, but it is a human language.

    Number two: It is a sign.

    Number three: It is to unbelievers, not believers.
  • John - In Reply on 1 Timothy 2:4 - 4 years ago
    Thanks for the reply Chris, I'm happy to have a discussion.

    This will be a multi post reply (If this website allows all of them) as there is a lot to unpack with your questions.

    It seems there are some principles that need to be established in order for you to understand my position.

    1. We have two Natures. There are several names for the two natures all men struggle between.

    The new man and the old man, the flesh and the spirit, the carnal mind and the mind of Christ.

    Romans 8:7

    For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

    God's Law is an expression of his nature, only when walking in the spirit (the new man/nature) can we follow it.

    Romans 8:8

    Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

    Galatians 3:27

    For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    (Which ties into this verse)

    Matthew 3:11

    "I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. (This is the non literal fire)

    Not only in this a spiritual fire but this fire is essential to being saved, which I believe we are not saved until we have endured to the end.

    1 Corinthians 3:15

    If anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.

    Galatians 2:20

    I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.

    Galatians 5:16-17

    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.

    Galatians 5:24

    And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

    This theme occurs throughout all of scripture.

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  • Abimael Seyoum - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 4 years ago
    Dear, Brother Herman

    Abba in Romans 8:25 is Aramaic . Aramaic is a ancient language that was used in Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Arameans, Hebrews, and Arabs.

    My church teaches that Jesus died on a Friday and rose on Sunday Amen

    Sincerely

    Abimael Seyoum

    U.S.A.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - In Reply on Matthew 24:38 - 4 years ago
    James Brooks. You bring up a good point on Predestination, Election and spreading the Word. It brings to mind that the Law was given to stress that all men have sinned. The Word was given to convict us of that sin. The Law condemns us. The Word gives us life. John 3 and Romans 5.

    The Law of Moses placed all mankind under sin, even those that followed that were not directly disobedient to God. The Law cannot reconcile us to God. Only Jesus can do that. Therefore, it is essential that people hear about Jesus. See also Romans 8:29-30: "For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined He also called; those He called He also justified; those He justified He also glorified."

    Ephesians 1 and John 10 are clear. God has given Jesus a flock and He will not lose a single one. So, the Call goes out for the Sheep.
  • Mishael On I John 19 - In Reply on Hebrews 10 - 4 years ago
    Stay a while in 1 John and his other books.

    In 1 John 2:1 it says that if you sin and Satan drags you up before the Throne of God, you have an ADVOCATE (sitting at Gods right arm). Jesus, your Advocate and attorney. He checks the Lambs Book of Life, sees your name written in it, and your case is dismissed for lack of evidence. Your sins have been blotted out with His blood.

    It doesn't mean we can run amok and sin all over the place. We are to put ourselves in the Holy Spirits leadership, teaching; conviction when we do sin.

    Fear hath torments. That's a demon with many little demons. It's their job to shake your faith in Jesus. The spirit of death causes some people to take their lives. They know they have no rights to do any of that to a Jesus trusting Christian.

    In 1 John 1:9 you will learn to run to the Cross if you do sin and confess; be forgiven; renewed. I go there a lot.

    We are washed clean by constantly renewing our minds with the Word of God. Your Bible. If we don't furnish our "homes" with Bible teaching; prayer: demons come back around to see if you have an opening for them. You can make them leave!

    Say what you've learned: IT IS WRITTEN... and speak your scripture that you've planted in your heart.

    You'll get so strong that you'll be able to help other people get freed as well.

    Now go read Romans 8:1-2. Read all of Rom. 8. Read Book of John 8:32

    You did good coming here :)
  • Herman Dcouto on Genesis 2 - 4 years ago
    Dear Brothers and Sisters,

    Can some one guide me in understanding some of the following:

    Romans 8:25 Abba, which is the language which is Addressing Father as Abba

    Jesus was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights. Please let me know the day in English calander when He died on the stake. Ref: Mathew 12:40

    I believe in the Hebrew names of Almighty God as Yahuah and His Son as Yahusha.

    Please respond.

    Sincerely

    Herman Dcouto

    India
  • James brooks - In Reply on Matthew 24:38 - 4 years ago
    The Bible teaches both GOD,S sovereignty in electing sinners to salvation ( John 6:44, Romans 8:29 and Ephesians 1:4.and we are commanded to evangelize and spread the gospel( Matthew 28:16-20)Why evangelize if we are predestined?Because we were commanded to do so.I believe the gospel is Preached mostly to the believer anyway .Because the unbeliever does not want hear what you are saying any way.It is totally the work of GOD. There is away I believe,to embrace predestination,and election without having our hands bound by it,when it comes to evangelism.For scripture teaches both sovereign election and necessity of evangelizing.Paul addressed this issue in ( Romans 10:13-15).R.C.Sproul commented on that passage;GOD not only foreordains the end of salvation for the elect,He also foreordains the means to that end.We are called to share the gospel and to respond in faith and obedience.So you see evangelism is still necessary in light of GOD,S sovereignty in salvation for two reasons:(1)GOD has commanded us to do it.(2)This is GOD,s chosen means of advancing His kingdom on earth.We have that privilege of being used by GOD to accomplish HIS will.What a blessing to by to bless others with the words of the BREAD OF LIFE. The apostle Paul was sent by the LORD to preach the gospel to JEW and Gentile.That by hearing they might believe,and so call on the name of the LORD and be saved.But there can be no true calling upon GOD without faith no faith without hearing no hearing without preaching and no preaching without a divine calling.Every man calls upon the god he believed in.And those that do not believe in GOD and Christ do not call on them.How shall they believe in him whom they have not heard;meaning that there is no faith in Christ without hearing of Him.There may be believing without seeing,but not believing without hearing.
  • Margaret - In Reply on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Lord I ask that you give this gentleman the knowledge and wisdom in his ministries to help his church members to acknowledge and understand what you have for them to hear in your Scriptural study. Let your message touch their hearts and move their spirits within each of them and know that you are there for them in good and bad times in their lives.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Deuteronomy 30 - 4 years ago
    If you read a little wider, people can produce spiritual children. Search 'spirit of adoption'.

    Psalm 27:10, When my father and mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up.

    Romans 8:15. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage, again, to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of Adoption, whereby we cry, ABBA FATHER. God becomes your Daddy, and your mother.

    If you need a hug, lift your arms and receive it. He's not mean, too busy, Absent; He has his eye on you.

    A lot of people don't preach this. America has often let the kids raise themselves. Facebook isn't going to nurture you with love and acceptance. Father God, brother Jesus, comforter Holy Spirit, WILL love you. Give your tragic life to them, and take into yourself, all the love you ever dreamed about.

    If you're single; no prospects in view yet... consider "adopting" some real kids, in a friendly way (not literal). Give a ride to Church, a students study Bible. Organize a movie night at the youth hall at church.

    Well we gotta keep them coronavirus safe. Little things mean a lot. It's called ministry.
  • Sara K on Ephesians 1 - 4 years ago
    Dear Douglas Russel Jr., Oh, how I hope since you've reached out here, that you have come to understand The Good News of Christ's Love and what it means to be saved by God's Amazing Grace :)

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "...I declare unto you the GOSPEL...By which also ye are saved...How that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. :)

    *Because of what God says in His Word, the Bible, I believe*:



    that man is saved from eternal punishment and is justified freely by grace through faith in the sacrificially shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary

    ( Romans 3:21-26, Ephesians 2:8-9, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

    that Salvation is a completely undeserved free gift bestowed upon all who simply believe ( Romans 5:12-21, 4:5).

    during this dispensation of grace, every person who believes the gospel of the grace of God ( Acts 20:24) is eternally saved from God's wrath.

    All saved people during the dispensation of grace are eternally saved and complete in Christ ( Romans 5:1, Colossians 2:10).

    Salvation is the work of God and not the work of man. Therefore, it is impossible for anyone who has trusted in Christ to ever be lost again. AND ...We are sealed by the Holy Spirit and are not our own -- we are bought with a price

    ( Colossians 3:1-4, Romans 8:29-39, Ephesians 1:13-14, 4:30, 1Corinthians 6:19-20).

    Space here is running low. I hope to share more in another comment if allowed.

    As the Apostle Paul repeatedly said:

    " Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ " ... Amen.
  • Lee Roy Brown lll on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Hi, my name is Lee Roy Brown and my wife's name is Lakilyyah Brown. We've been married since 11-1-19... We both know the scriptures and have a very active , hot relationship with our Heavenly Father. We know thatThe Lord has put us together, never to be separated or divorced for any reason. According to Matthews 18:19 we ask that you touch and agree that (NO) weapon formed against will prosper, and that God use our marriage for his glory amen.
  • Jonathan Carr on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Success in ministry
  • Kseniya on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Please pray for our family that my husband will forget about his mistress and she will disappear from our life forever one way or another. Amen.
  • Jimmy on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    I request prayer for the leading of the Lord concerning our current attendance at a Church that we have been attending since 2004. The Church is a long way from where we currently live, and it would be of benefit it we could find a godly assembly much closer to home at least in the short term. Also, I am requesting prayer for the leading of the Lord concerning me and my family in particular as it pertains to my son and daughter and the thing we need to do for their development as young adults, but do not have the resources to do the things we wish to do to help them. We need the wisdom, knowledge, and the blessings of God on this matter as well. Thank you, in advance for your prayers. God bless.
  • Adam on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Please pray for my girlfriend who has been sick for months. Requesting the power of prayer through the Christian body to ask for God's healing powers on her. Thank you.
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - In Reply on Genesis 10 - 4 years ago
    Chris. Page 4.

    Romans 8:19-23 - The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

    We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

    1 Peter 1:10-12 - which things the angels desire to look into.

    You are right. While the passage mentions that creation was subjected to futility, it does not mention Angels. I must have assumed it did. I was wrong. Thank you for pointing that out. What I think the passage does mention is God's Plan to eradicate corruption, when it says, "in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay". What I thought the passage said about the Angels is found in 1 Peter, but I was wrong about that too and I am glad you corrected me. The Bible does not say Angels will benefit from God's Plan of Redemption.

    My argument, however, is that God's eternal Plan was for the annihilation of corruption, which includes death and evil. Isaiah 25:8 - He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.

    I suppose my thinking was that because Angels were also created and were subject to corruption, the Plan included them. But that was a stretch. As you pointed out, there is no mention of that at all.
  • Keijo on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Help and pray for me in my the fight against false doctrine who not confess Jesus blood in salvation,but using own victims ,pray for our relatives salvation too,thanks and bless,keijo sweden
  • Amanda on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    I am expecting a baby, but have had 9 miscarriages. Please pray for God's will, that if it is His will, this baby will be born full term and healthy. Thank y'all
  • Jacqueline Shirley on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Healing for my body and healing for the world. Protection over my 3 daughters and family.
  • Robert L on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    I'm in need of prayer to be free of pain
  • Sad Mom on Romans 8:34 - 4 years ago
    Please pray for my daughter k. to be saved. please pray evil to stay away from her. i miss her and love her so much!!! she needs god! i'm tired of having a broken heart.

    thank you!


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