I have a question ,does any one on this site know anything about the ancient hebrew alphabet ,a friend of mine told me that in the ancient hebrew the letter w was the sixth letter of the alphabet ,if this is true it would put a very powerfull slant on Revelation ch 13 ,anyone know anything about this ? If its true or not ? Thanks .
Thank you Michael. Well, if God gave me the Gift of other Tongues, I would still feel inadequate in my prayer life, as, there are so many things to pray for: for family members, friends, the Church, the world, our governments, etc., etc. I would be torn if I couldn't pray in English for these things but only speak to God in a language I don't understand. How would I even know what I'm asking God for on behalf of these things, if I don't know what I'm saying? Or maybe, I shouldn't be praying for these things & just assume that everything is covered by using an unlearned language.
1 Corinthians 14:39 does say "forbid not to speak with tongues", but does that mean that everybody has that gift, or does it mean that if you have that gift, then you should use it for God's Glory? Whereas, 1 Corinthians 12:30: "Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?", seems to show us that Paul recognized that not all Spirit-filled believers, spoke in Tongues, nor can they heal, interpret, etc. There appears a contradiction of Paul's message, if one is to believe that both Scriptures mean the same thing.
98% of born again Christians never become spiritual adults
Growing up Spiritually does not happen automatically. Spiritual growth only comes from studying the Scriptures until Christ be formed in you. Galatians 4:19 "My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,"
2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Lets take a look at second timothy chapter three, verses sixteen and seventeen. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." "THAT THE MAN OF GOD MAY BE PERFECT" ANOTHER WORD FOR "PERFECT" IS "MATURE" As you study, you grow in to an Adult Christian, Peter said "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:" A new born Christian baby can do just about anything that an unsaved person can do; so we all need to grow up.
Christians please don't be afraid to stand for The King , The Saviour, The King over all Galaxies. Mandela took a stand but he did not die, but went on to end Aparthied. Sometimes one must die to live again. Christ took the sting out of death. Nothing to fear now. Peace Like a River was the message I got from a friend who passed on to the Lord's Side. Cast out Fear and walk in faith. You believe the Sun will rise again but it's not up to you that it does. So relax and stop the fear.
I replied to you on another posting but it was not placed up on here for you because i wrote to all on the heading or any one to view truth is always hidden when it comes down to making people accountable.....what has amazed me here is no one knows their bible according to the power of God and what it means to have have the fullness of God...
The Holy Ghost is a Spirit and he is the intercessor who prays on our behalf in the unknown tongue everyone finds hard to accept because they cannot understand what the Holy Spirit prays on our behalf neither do i because the Bible tells us it peays for us about things we do or have done to bring change to grow in faith all i know is when i have pray i feel alot of Joy and peace and i feel right with God and feel full of spiritual Power..
John chapter 3 says it all and the scripture is not taught right about it pastors telling people you acn receive the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues it like saysing you can drive a car with out fuel or these days an electric car without power....
We need the Real GALAXY Children of God to speak up at the table. God is not limited and nothing stands in the way if His Divine Authority. Man has his own interest but the Children of God must act in the interest of God.
I am sadden as Jesus would be and God the father to see people explain away what God says we can build up our most Holy Faith before God the father being prepared spiritually to be with him...praying in the Holy Ghost
You have all talked about love charity not understanding the real fullness of God by the Holy Spirit if you all did you would know that the fulness of God that the unknown tongue we pray in is the Holy Spirit praying on behalf of you or us to God the Father the intercessor that gives us hope..
God said he has not given us the Spirit of Fear but of Power Love and sound mind....Fulness Of God..
To tell people its not necessary makes you answerable to God for blasphemy denying the and preaching the gospel unfaithfully..
You have all said what i say not what Jesus said the experience we would have that God The Father would give the Holy Spirit to those who would obey him to enter into the Kingdom of God.
A man called Nicodemus asked Jesus John C3 what he must do to to be saved..
The mighty rushing wind referrers to the infilling of the Holy Spirit ..the sound referrers to a voice given to indenitify you can speak in a spiritual tongue to God .....
The gift of tongues never involves gibberish sounds or chanting. A person that receives the gift of tongues will speak in a recognizable, known language that that person did not know and previously could not understand. Examples are given to us in Acts 2 4-8 God bless
John 8:32 says ..And ye shall know the truth , and the truth shall make you free.......
Whats happening today i see people reading and buying books of other peoples experiences
and believing more what people write about rather then just read the bible and share the experience in company
of the saints in fellowship ...and in order people share what God has done for them ..In Jesus name
Christians are not reading the Bible their reading what Pastors are writing and then compare what he or she has said with the Bible....believing more what the Pastor has written ......
I have had christians say but the Pastor said this and the believe the Pators book over the bible and others people experience ....
WHen i wrote about healing Jesus layed hands on the sick to heal them and on the dead to raise them back to life
and the blind man and the leper etc ...
The Bible is not written to the understanding of natural man even though many claim they understand it if they did we would all agree with the Word of God proving God right only everyone wants to be right ....
I use scripture makes what people write accountable to God with what they reply and say ....To change or add to the gospel means you add the plagues of the bible to your life and takes you out of the book of life ...Thats why i wrote i agree with whats written that Jesus said we should do to be saved ...
My 1 Favourite scriptures is what Jesus said .... John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me
many today past and present have been told you can receive the holy without speaking in tongues
and many believe you can because its what they have been told not experienced ... like the people who fall backwards they call it being slayed in the spirit ) bible says the enemies of god fell backwards .....
1 corinthians 14 v 2 to me says it all ..no one seems to have read what it says ...
it says : for he that speaketh in and unknown speakth not unto men, but god: for no man understandeth him, howbeit in the spirit speaketh mysteries....
1 corinthians 14 v 14 says ...for if i pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfriutful
regarding the fullness of god i relate it to buying a new car if you do not have the key given to you cannot drive off with the car , at the turn of the key opens the power from the battery to start the car
jesus was the fullness of god nothing less at the time of need he used the apporiate gift ..that was required ..like healing - if someone was sick he prayed for them ..if someone had died he raised them back to life etc
In my experiences and perception, along with Scripture, you are correct. As of coarse He is our Lord and Eternal King. What started from a very personal experience with the Lord I was led to this answer in the Bible about Jesus being our brother. As when we are born again of the Spirit we are also children of God and joint-heirs with Christ. Romans 8:15-17. Some Scriptures about Jesus being our brother. These are for you:
I believe it is more logical to explain the Holy Spirit this way.
God is the source of all truth.
God could not reach man from heaven so he sent Jesus with the truth. God's truth for all people.
Jesus is the truth made flesh.
The truth Jesus brings is the same as the truth of God the Father. But Jesus himself cannot speak the truth to every person on earth.
The Holy Spirit is the truth.
"And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness" ( Acts 4:31).
The reason they could speak the truth (the word of God) with boldness after they were filled with the Holy Ghost is because they were filled with the truth--the Holy Spirit is truth.
"Speaking in tongues is a special subject but this is what I found in my bible"
I Corinthians 14: 2-4, (kjv)
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4 He that speaketh in an unkown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Proverbs 4:7 (kjv)
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
My personal testimony,
The saint that have the gift to prophesy hopefully there is someone in church have the gift of interpretation. Or the Saint could bring an interpreter with them.
May God bless the reading and edifying of the word of God. Amen
Michael, I've been following this thread, & as Richard has said, "it seems to be going nowhere". If may also ask you a personal question: when you pray, do you only use the Gift of other Tongues (an unlearned language) that you believe you have received, or do you also pray in another (learned) language?
And one more question: I think you believe that every person who says he is born again & received the Holy Spirit, must show first evidence of speaking in other tongues - correct me if I'm wrong please. And if so, then all the believers in the Book of Acts & in the early Church (from Pentecost onwards) must have spoken in tongues as first evidence. Then why should the Apostle Paul ask, "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?"
He clearly shows that in the Church, just as not everyone can claim to be an apostle or teacher or miracle worker, so to, not all have the gift of Tongues, of healing, or of interpretation. If you believe you have received the Gift, then use it for the Glory of God & for building up of His Church, just as we who have not received it, use our other gifts for those purposes. If what you have been taught instructs you that everyone in the Church must have the gift of Tongues, then there is abundant proof of the many mightily used of God in both prayer & ministry to others, that have never received that Gift but are doing their work in the Love & Power of the Spirit. Does this not tell us something: that maybe the evidence of the Spirit within is not just in Tongues, but in many other ways that God chooses to use His children for His Glory?
Please. This conversation does not seem to be going anywhere. I already said I was done posting but when someone asks me a question I feel to answer. As I have already answered this to your question of "how do you pray in the Holy Ghost". You gave no post to what I replied. Only "you agree with the Word of God".
Do you not believe that the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, comes into you and sups with you when you are born of the Spirit? There is no need to speak in unknown tongues to pray in the Holy Ghost. God knows every single word out of your mouth, every single thought in your mind, and knows our hearts. He knows everything about all of us and better than we know ourselves.
You say you agree with with the Word of God and what's written. Although only the verses that you like to mold to fit with your beliefs. As I have posted numerous verses from the Holy Bible and questions about them and have not received any answers from you.
Again Michael. If you don't believe I have received the Holy Ghost just because I cant murmur an unknown language. Like I said before you are wrong. I know and say in truth I have been Blessed to received the Holy Ghost because of what has happened in my life. All glory and thanks to our Father in Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ.
( 1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not:
1 Corinthians 14:1-4 "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: (If it is an unknown tongue (language), it is reasonable to assume that men would not understand it, but God understands all languages, so a person speaking in an unknown tongue would be speaking to God. for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;(showing off) but he that prophesieth edifieth the church." Tongues are for them that believe not.
Tongues are for them that believe NOT. 1 Corinthians 14:22 "Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe." As Christians we walk by faith, not by sight (sings, tongues). 2 Corinthians 5:7 "(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)".
Tongues were a sign gift to the Jews, because their Nation started under Moses with sign and wanders; miracles of all sorts. The tongues sign was to bear witness to the Gospel for the Jews ( John 20:31 "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." So if someone was speaking in tongues today, would they be speaking to Jews; for the Gentiles don't need a sing?
Jesus is the same, but dispensations are not, and ages are not the same, and what the Jews believe to be save, is different from what the Gentiles believes to be saved, and many other things in the Bible are not the same.
If you say you pray spiritually how do you pray to God who is a spirit ? ...1CORINTHIANS14 V14 THE WORD OF GOD says when i pray in and unknown tongue my spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful..
How do you pray in the spirit according to whats written in the WORD OF GOD ....thats God requires from us
I never said I "reject" speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. I said I have no interest in this gift. Because I have relationship with the Father and speak/pray to Him in Spirit. I said God Bless them that have the gift of speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. You are twisting my words.
As it shows again in your previous post. Your zeal seems to be for a tongue. My zeal is for the love of God and to love one another as Jesus Christ taught us. To produce good fruit of the Spirit and do the will of our Father in Heaven.
So you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:2. So do I. What about 1 Corinthians 12:3-11. That states there are diversities in gifts of the Spirit. Read 1 Corinthians 12 again.
Are you saying that I, and others here, are "denying the power of Gods existence"? You know nothing about me and my relationship with the Father. What you are doing is damaging peoples faith and belief in God. Because not everyone who receives the Holy Ghost, and is born again in the Spirit, speaks in unknown tongues.
You can keep condemning us all you want but it shall not change the truth. You shall be held accountable for your words. Just as we all shall.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus Christ professing that the words He spake were spirit. Yet not of an unknown tongue.
1CORINTHIANS 14VERSE 2 it tells you when speak in and an unknown speaketh not unto men , but into God ....
I cannot believe what i am reading christians Paul saying why we speak in an unknown tongue saying we are speaking to God and you reject it ..I do not have words for the sorrow in my heart how so many christains on here find a way to tell God they do not want to speak to him in his spritual tongue ..actually denying the power of Gods existience
Paul stated, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." 2Co 5:8
Jesus told of a beggar and a rich man in Luke 16:19-31. "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;" Luk 16:22
Jesus went on to describe the the condition of the rich man and the beggar.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented." Luk 16:24-25
So we see that Old Testament saints were in a place of comfort. New Testament saints are with the Lord. Both disembodied spirits. But we are promised that the dead will be raised and given incorruptible bodies.
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Co 15:51-52
In this passage, Matthew 24:15-28, Jesus tells His disciples of the a coming time of great tribulation, with the warning, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place."
This is the Daniel prophecy that Jesus was referring to, "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Dan 9:27
An event like this happened in 167 BC when Antiochus IV desecrated the Temple and persecuted the Jews.
Some Christians think that Jesus' warning to, "pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:" Mat 24:20 was referring to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Others, including me, believe that this will be a future time known as The Great Tribulation or the time of Jacob's trouble or the Day of the LORD.
1 Corinthians 14:39 does say "forbid not to speak with tongues", but does that mean that everybody has that gift, or does it mean that if you have that gift, then you should use it for God's Glory? Whereas, 1 Corinthians 12:30: "Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?", seems to show us that Paul recognized that not all Spirit-filled believers, spoke in Tongues, nor can they heal, interpret, etc. There appears a contradiction of Paul's message, if one is to believe that both Scriptures mean the same thing.
98% of born again Christians never become spiritual adults
Growing up Spiritually does not happen automatically. Spiritual growth only comes from studying the Scriptures until Christ be formed in you. Galatians 4:19 "My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,"
2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Lets take a look at second timothy chapter three, verses sixteen and seventeen. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." "THAT THE MAN OF GOD MAY BE PERFECT" ANOTHER WORD FOR "PERFECT" IS "MATURE" As you study, you grow in to an Adult Christian, Peter said "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:" A new born Christian baby can do just about anything that an unsaved person can do; so we all need to grow up.
I replied to you on another posting but it was not placed up on here for you because i wrote to all on the heading or any one to view truth is always hidden when it comes down to making people accountable.....what has amazed me here is no one knows their bible according to the power of God and what it means to have have the fullness of God...
The Holy Ghost is a Spirit and he is the intercessor who prays on our behalf in the unknown tongue everyone finds hard to accept because they cannot understand what the Holy Spirit prays on our behalf neither do i because the Bible tells us it peays for us about things we do or have done to bring change to grow in faith all i know is when i have pray i feel alot of Joy and peace and i feel right with God and feel full of spiritual Power..
John chapter 3 says it all and the scripture is not taught right about it pastors telling people you acn receive the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues it like saysing you can drive a car with out fuel or these days an electric car without power....
I am sadden as Jesus would be and God the father to see people explain away what God says we can build up our most Holy Faith before God the father being prepared spiritually to be with him...praying in the Holy Ghost
You have all talked about love charity not understanding the real fullness of God by the Holy Spirit if you all did you would know that the fulness of God that the unknown tongue we pray in is the Holy Spirit praying on behalf of you or us to God the Father the intercessor that gives us hope..
God said he has not given us the Spirit of Fear but of Power Love and sound mind....Fulness Of God..
To tell people its not necessary makes you answerable to God for blasphemy denying the and preaching the gospel unfaithfully..
You have all said what i say not what Jesus said the experience we would have that God The Father would give the Holy Spirit to those who would obey him to enter into the Kingdom of God.
A man called Nicodemus asked Jesus John C3 what he must do to to be saved..
The mighty rushing wind referrers to the infilling of the Holy Spirit ..the sound referrers to a voice given to indenitify you can speak in a spiritual tongue to God .....
1 ) To answer your first question i only pray in tongues and find i am put in the presence of God when i do
an amazing experience to be in God presence on your knees.
2 ) Book of Jude verse 20 says....( answer to 1 Corinthians 28 to 30)
But ye, beloved, building up your most Holy Faith. praying in the Holy
Ghost, ( and the reason why we pray in tongues )
1 CORINTHIANS14 verse 39 says ...
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak in
tongues...
2 ) 1 CORINTHIANS 20 to 30 ...
1. when you pray, do you use the Gift of Tongues (speaking in an unlearned language) or do you pray in a known language?
2. how do you understand 1 Corinthians 12:28-30, & specifically in relation to Tongues?
John 8:32 says ..And ye shall know the truth , and the truth shall make you free.......
Whats happening today i see people reading and buying books of other peoples experiences
and believing more what people write about rather then just read the bible and share the experience in company
of the saints in fellowship ...and in order people share what God has done for them ..In Jesus name
Christians are not reading the Bible their reading what Pastors are writing and then compare what he or she has said with the Bible....believing more what the Pastor has written ......
I have had christians say but the Pastor said this and the believe the Pators book over the bible and others people experience ....
WHen i wrote about healing Jesus layed hands on the sick to heal them and on the dead to raise them back to life
and the blind man and the leper etc ...
The Bible is not written to the understanding of natural man even though many claim they understand it if they did we would all agree with the Word of God proving God right only everyone wants to be right ....
I use scripture makes what people write accountable to God with what they reply and say ....To change or add to the gospel means you add the plagues of the bible to your life and takes you out of the book of life ...Thats why i wrote i agree with whats written that Jesus said we should do to be saved ...
My 1 Favourite scriptures is what Jesus said .... John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me
many today past and present have been told you can receive the holy without speaking in tongues
and many believe you can because its what they have been told not experienced ... like the people who fall backwards they call it being slayed in the spirit ) bible says the enemies of god fell backwards .....
1 corinthians 14 v 2 to me says it all ..no one seems to have read what it says ...
it says : for he that speaketh in and unknown speakth not unto men, but god: for no man understandeth him, howbeit in the spirit speaketh mysteries....
1 corinthians 14 v 14 says ...for if i pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfriutful
regarding the fullness of god i relate it to buying a new car if you do not have the key given to you cannot drive off with the car , at the turn of the key opens the power from the battery to start the car
jesus was the fullness of god nothing less at the time of need he used the apporiate gift ..that was required ..like healing - if someone was sick he prayed for them ..if someone had died he raised them back to life etc
In my experiences and perception, along with Scripture, you are correct. As of coarse He is our Lord and Eternal King. What started from a very personal experience with the Lord I was led to this answer in the Bible about Jesus being our brother. As when we are born again of the Spirit we are also children of God and joint-heirs with Christ. Romans 8:15-17. Some Scriptures about Jesus being our brother. These are for you:
Matthew 12:50
Romans 8:29
John 6:38
John 20:17
( 1 Corinthians 9:5
Hebrews 2:11
Hebrews 2:17
I hope that helps. God Bless.
God is the source of all truth.
God could not reach man from heaven so he sent Jesus with the truth. God's truth for all people.
Jesus is the truth made flesh.
The truth Jesus brings is the same as the truth of God the Father. But Jesus himself cannot speak the truth to every person on earth.
The Holy Spirit is the truth.
"And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness" ( Acts 4:31).
The reason they could speak the truth (the word of God) with boldness after they were filled with the Holy Ghost is because they were filled with the truth--the Holy Spirit is truth.
"Speaking in tongues is a special subject but this is what I found in my bible"
I Corinthians 14: 2-4, (kjv)
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4 He that speaketh in an unkown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Proverbs 4:7 (kjv)
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
My personal testimony,
The saint that have the gift to prophesy hopefully there is someone in church have the gift of interpretation. Or the Saint could bring an interpreter with them.
May God bless the reading and edifying of the word of God. Amen
And one more question: I think you believe that every person who says he is born again & received the Holy Spirit, must show first evidence of speaking in other tongues - correct me if I'm wrong please. And if so, then all the believers in the Book of Acts & in the early Church (from Pentecost onwards) must have spoken in tongues as first evidence. Then why should the Apostle Paul ask, "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?"
He clearly shows that in the Church, just as not everyone can claim to be an apostle or teacher or miracle worker, so to, not all have the gift of Tongues, of healing, or of interpretation. If you believe you have received the Gift, then use it for the Glory of God & for building up of His Church, just as we who have not received it, use our other gifts for those purposes. If what you have been taught instructs you that everyone in the Church must have the gift of Tongues, then there is abundant proof of the many mightily used of God in both prayer & ministry to others, that have never received that Gift but are doing their work in the Love & Power of the Spirit. Does this not tell us something: that maybe the evidence of the Spirit within is not just in Tongues, but in many other ways that God chooses to use His children for His Glory?
Please. This conversation does not seem to be going anywhere. I already said I was done posting but when someone asks me a question I feel to answer. As I have already answered this to your question of "how do you pray in the Holy Ghost". You gave no post to what I replied. Only "you agree with the Word of God".
Do you not believe that the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, comes into you and sups with you when you are born of the Spirit? There is no need to speak in unknown tongues to pray in the Holy Ghost. God knows every single word out of your mouth, every single thought in your mind, and knows our hearts. He knows everything about all of us and better than we know ourselves.
You say you agree with with the Word of God and what's written. Although only the verses that you like to mold to fit with your beliefs. As I have posted numerous verses from the Holy Bible and questions about them and have not received any answers from you.
Again Michael. If you don't believe I have received the Holy Ghost just because I cant murmur an unknown language. Like I said before you are wrong. I know and say in truth I have been Blessed to received the Holy Ghost because of what has happened in my life. All glory and thanks to our Father in Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ.
( 1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not:
God Bless you.
If you say you pray spiritually how do you pray to God who is a spirit ? ...1CORINTHIANS14 V14 THE WORD OF GOD says when i pray in and unknown tongue my spirit prayeth but my understanding is unfruitful..
How do you pray in the spirit according to whats written in the WORD OF GOD ....thats God requires from us
So no answer to my one question? Thank you.
I never said I "reject" speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. I said I have no interest in this gift. Because I have relationship with the Father and speak/pray to Him in Spirit. I said God Bless them that have the gift of speaking in tongues of the Holy Ghost. You are twisting my words.
As it shows again in your previous post. Your zeal seems to be for a tongue. My zeal is for the love of God and to love one another as Jesus Christ taught us. To produce good fruit of the Spirit and do the will of our Father in Heaven.
So you believe in 1 Corinthians 14:2. So do I. What about 1 Corinthians 12:3-11. That states there are diversities in gifts of the Spirit. Read 1 Corinthians 12 again.
Are you saying that I, and others here, are "denying the power of Gods existence"? You know nothing about me and my relationship with the Father. What you are doing is damaging peoples faith and belief in God. Because not everyone who receives the Holy Ghost, and is born again in the Spirit, speaks in unknown tongues.
You can keep condemning us all you want but it shall not change the truth. You shall be held accountable for your words. Just as we all shall.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Jesus Christ professing that the words He spake were spirit. Yet not of an unknown tongue.
Peace be with you.
1CORINTHIANS 14VERSE 2 it tells you when speak in and an unknown speaketh not unto men , but into God ....
I cannot believe what i am reading christians Paul saying why we speak in an unknown tongue saying we are speaking to God and you reject it ..I do not have words for the sorrow in my heart how so many christains on here find a way to tell God they do not want to speak to him in his spritual tongue ..actually denying the power of Gods existience
Jesus told of a beggar and a rich man in Luke 16:19-31. "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;" Luk 16:22
Jesus went on to describe the the condition of the rich man and the beggar.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented." Luk 16:24-25
So we see that Old Testament saints were in a place of comfort. New Testament saints are with the Lord. Both disembodied spirits. But we are promised that the dead will be raised and given incorruptible bodies.
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Co 15:51-52
In this passage, Matthew 24:15-28, Jesus tells His disciples of the a coming time of great tribulation, with the warning, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place."
This is the Daniel prophecy that Jesus was referring to, "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Dan 9:27
An event like this happened in 167 BC when Antiochus IV desecrated the Temple and persecuted the Jews.
Some Christians think that Jesus' warning to, "pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:" Mat 24:20 was referring to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Others, including me, believe that this will be a future time known as The Great Tribulation or the time of Jacob's trouble or the Day of the LORD.