The emphasis was on the motive in which we do things. " Examine ourselves to see if we are doing it by command. glory or Agape.
I believe what is important is the Heart behind every action.
The work and the heart behind the things we do that pleases God can only be achieved by the Holyspirit.
Romans 8:7-9.
In my post I was asking WHAT IS OUR MOTIVE when we do the things we are asked NOT to do.
That's why a stated; "If we are supposed to be moved by the Spirit "by the instrument of faith" unto good works but yet we don't display good works, then our faith is vain/dead, Then is it fair to say that if we provide works THAT IS NOT BY THE INFLUENCE of the spirit that causes obedience to God's word, "then our work is vain."
Here's an Scriptural example
Matthew 6:1-8.
If our works confirms our faith and that work is tried by fire, it will stand. But if we perform a work we are asked NOT to do, What is the motive? Pride? And should we care?
If pride I believe we are building with wood hay and stubble. It will go up in smoke!
So the context in these posts isn't focused on the people in rebellion to God's instructions. It's focus is on those who seem content in their salvation when we should be concerned about the order mentioned in scripture that helps us grow so we don't become lukewarm.
Our attitude and trust in God's structure and instructions being profound or not to Grow "or perfect" the Church is on trial
Ephesians 4:11-16. seems to say he gave particular offices to particular people to Prosper the Church.
Go back read Genesis 6:11 - 22 where Gods makes a covenant with Noah and his family and tells him to bring aboard the ark two of every flesh/sort male and female . are the wicked a sort ? How about People of color ? is it possible man was already on earth and populated it before Adam ? is it suggested in the beginning God made the races on the fifth day of creation both male and female ? is a thousand yours on earth just a day to God ? I have read where they do suggest . and Noah brought aboard two of every race color and creed .
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Hello Robert, The Hebrew people descended from Eber (sometimes called Heber) who was the great grandson of Shem through Arphaxad and then Salah.. Genesis 10 shows the Table of Nations that descended from Noah's sons Shem, Japheth and Ham. Genesis 11 speaks more about the descendants of Shem from which came the name Semite.
The Hebrew people included many peoples descended from Eber. He had two sons, Joktan (had 13 sons) and Peleg. he had other sons and daughters also. The lineage of Peleg is the line from which Abraham descended. So. Abraham and his lineage were but one of many lines from Eber. So, there were and are many Hebrew peoples that did not descend from Abraham. Yet God chose Abraham out of all the descendants of Noah to select out a specific subgroups of Hebrews to be His chosen people to covenant with.
In the world today, there are people who descended from Shem, Ham, or Japheth. Many are a mix of these lineages over the generations. We are not all Hebrews due to this.
If all people were destroyed and Noah and his family were the only ones left on the earth then we all are children of Noah. That being said why are we not all Hebrew?
Alex1939...In Matthew 24:3-8...When they asked Jesus what shall be the sign of thy coming and the end of the world He replied Sorrows (Birth pains)...The Woman in Rev. 12. is in Birth pains....Which is a spiritual pregnancy...And the Woman is the best example of Faith...The very Kingdom of God comes for this Woman...Which is humanity...Rev.12:10....Now is come Salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ (the child) is the H.G....The Kingdom is the manchild the H.G. That is gona rule all nations with his rod of iron..the words of the book that has been opened...The new covenant...An intimacy a knowledge....He wants to know everybody...Its gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas.
And remember Bro. Paul speaks of the whole Creation in Travail n birth pains...becoming incorruptible simply we are all gonna be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.... Romans 8:21...ok gtg..Gbu...And this Woman keeps the commandments..b/c her child cannot sin....That new born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G. that Paul speaks of is the Child of PROMISE..Our new innerman the H.G...The very gift of God.
Further clarification would demonstrate that in Christ we are truly fulfilling the law. The law itself could not validate a death sentence for thinking about fornication or adultery; or murder but in the heart it showed that it was worthy of spiritual judgment leading eventually to eternal death. Philippians 2:13 shows that God gives us the WILL (sorry about the shouting just emphasizing stuff here) to obey. We cannot love the law as the Psalmist spends all 172 verses of the longest Psalm (119) describing in the flesh as the flesh and spirit are in emnity. In the flesh we cannot obey as Romans 8:8 and other scriptures indicate.
Again; the ceremonial laws Christ Himself deliberately allowed to be broken (such as eating heads of grain on the Sabbath Day). He also corrected the Pharisees as to what "work" truly involved; showing that mercy was more important than blind legalism by healing on the Sabbath repeatedly.
In some sense then the New Covenant or more superior one abrogated the old ( Hebrews 9:15). Even the Old Testament allowed for God's grace to stand above judgment; for instance with David's sin with Bathsheeba that involved adultery and being complicit to murder. These were death sentence penalties according to the law. God also had a greater plan since His lineage came from the line of David. Notwithstanding this; however there was collateral damage such as the loss of the child (who David would see someday in heaven); as well as enemies being a constant thorn in the side.
Our sin is a serious matter; Paul warned the Corinthians about taking communion unworthily ( 1 Cor. 11:27); as well as in the book of Acts Ananias and Sapphira were killed because they lied to the Holy Spirit. We can then be saved but taken out early; if we are saved. Those who continue in an unrepentant LIFESTYLE of sin likely aren't saved as there is no conviction of the Spirit; or new heart showing genuine conversion. We must not only know the truth but LOVE it.
Ephesians 1:13-14 states that we are sealed withe Spirit unto the day of redemption. Notwithstanding this; it is not a mere verbal statement that assures salvation. Therefore to those TRULY born again; indeed they are saved in a "once saved always saved" way. We all have as evidence of genuine faith a need to REPENT (turn from sin); but God actually GIVES us the desire to repent through the GIFT of repentance ( Acts 5:31; etal). It is more doctrinally sound to say that GOD elects or chooses those who will become adopted sons or inherited into the Kingdom ( Colossians 1:13; Romans 8:22-23). We must confess with our mouths; of course but that comes along with belief in the heart ( Romans 10:9). Those who are saved because they LOVE God they keep His commandments ( John 14:15). Those who are saved will bear fruit ( John 15:2). The surrounding scriptures and parable of the sower show that a person must pass through the temptations of the world and be proven to be true sons ( Hebrews 12:8). Those who are true believers are chastised as He does with all those He loves. The fruit of the Spirit eventually manifests; and God continues to prune (or sanctify) us to produce MORE fruit. The others fall away eventually to the world; flesh and devil; only God can save us from ourselves and these forces which are blinding those who don't know the Lord ( 2 Cor. 4:4).
The 10 Commandments therefore are still in force today; but we are unable to follow with the MORE stringent matters of the heart which only again comes from the Spirit. Without this there is an outward obedience only. The only thing which has changed is the Sabbath Day; and I would say that Matthew 12:8 answers this by placing Sunday as the day of rest. This is also the only command that was peculiar to the nation of Israel; rather than universal law which clearly as shown with John the Baptist in matters of divorce holding for pagans as well. Other ceremonial rules changed with Peter's vision in Acts 10.
The first 8 verses in Psalm 44 give us a brief overview of the history if Israel; with God leading them to victory over their enemies largely fought by the Lord Himself. We think of men like Joshua and Caleb; whose victory over Jericho was due to deliverance as a result of trusting God in obedience in what seemed like a bizarre invasion plan. We should also realize that quite often when there were casualties among the camp it was due to a direct sin of the people (usually tied with idol worship or in Saul's case heeding to the people's desires rather than God's specific instructions).
Verses 9 through 11 show how once again the armies of Israel were being defeated. Verse 11 has a similar tone to verse 22 which appears in a statement by Paul in regard to the Apostles being persecuted ( Romans 8:36). It is also true that Chris Himself was led like this as prophesied in Isaiah 53:7. Evidence of being sold into slavery is in verse 12. Verse 16 talks of the voice o he who blasphemes; that could be true of the Assyrian king as well as Antichrist in the future. Evidently in this case; adherance to the covenant or worship of false gods at this time was NOT an issue (v. 20).
The rest of the Psalm (verses 23-26) seem to indicate that God appears to have taken a sabbatical so to speak in regard to action to deliver His people. This is the affect of the Godly remnant who remain on the earth in the end times in particular. The time of "Jacob's trouble" necessitates a trial; but His people will eventually be delivered out of it. Even verses in Deuteronomy mention tribulation and that God is still present at that time. Despite all the attempts of the enemy the Lord has a plan for His people that cannot fail ultimately.
Well spoken, Jesus came to redeem all of creation from the curse pronounced on the world in Genesis. The work of the cross didn't just redeem us, Christ came to redeem all that was created. Romans 8:21-23. The commandments weren't set forth to do that. The commandments were to show the need for redemption.
The commandments given didn't say keep the commandments the best you can.
The second you broke any one of them you were forever lost if there was no sacrifice that could take away sin. Hebrews 10:1-5.
It was the sacrifices that pointed to Christ that made atonement for those sins.
Israel having God in their midst with all the providence showed the world that the heart of man is incurably wicked.
The law showed that there was a need of a savior that could regenerate the believer and give a new heart and life.
The commandments are Holy and was given to a nation that was set apart to show man with God in their midst was nothing like God being "IN" them.
The keys, the Greek word Kleis, are not actual keys in a physical form, it is the power and authority to open and shut. The first of the verse "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold I am alive for evermore". Jesus conquered death because He was sinless, Acts 2:24, and the devil/Satan who had the power of death, that is, the devil (Satan), Heb. 2:14-151 John 3:8.
Romans 8:10-11 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
My understanding is Jesus was in the tomb/hell for the three days and He did not ascend to the Father until He rose from the tomb. John 20:17, Jesus ascended to the Father and presented himself and was accepted by God the First Fruits of them that slept. He returned and met the women on the road going to tell the apostles and they could then touch Him, Matt.28:9.
Interestingly this site has the 1611 version. It doesn't include that book. However I've heard of a version approximately 150+ years later that may have included that book. Is that a book added to scripture as warned about? Deuteronomy & Revelation 22:19,
By simple surface study, it seems not to be in the Bible before or after & debated as not GOD's WORD.
I myself stay away from it because some things I've heard say in it, contradict Bible scripture. If you're in question read Tobit in 1611, Philippians 2, Romans 8:14, Hebrews 1:13,14, Matthew 22:30,
I humbly recommend to you, please read the Word within Genesis to Revelation, study get to know the scriptures well, ask for wisdom James 1:5 & discerment of Truth before looking into the other, if you do at all
Psalm 139:8 shows that God is everywhere; including in what was the abode of the dead; Sheol. Think for a minute what this implies. When we see what can only be taken as a literal story of Lazarus and the rich man we see two individuals clearly in a different state in the afterlife. In fact; the rich man is still there and will be until the Great White Throne Judgment.
The souls of the righteous; however are now present with the Lord ( Ephesians 4:8; 2 Cor. 5:6).
No longer are those who die in the Lord held captive by the Devil from the presence of God ( Hebrews 2:14-15). Only the rightous will actually see God; Psalm 11:6-7 illustrate this along with the fate of the wicked in hell in great detail. Even this life; in fact shows how one can be dead in trespasses and sins yet physically alive ( Ephesians 2:1). This will be the eternal state for the wicked in the lake of fire.
Our human minds cannot conceive how God does not change; and how He can be a God of mercy and grace yet render eternal judgment on the unregenerate; also those whose souls God created ( Ezekiel 18:4). Nonetheless; that verse illustrates how a father and son and blood relations are not relevant for determining the salvation of an individual. We see that in the book of Joshua with Gideon that God is for those who are on his side; whatever we percieve in our reality as the right or wrong sides. God brings good to those who love Him ( Romans 8:28). It is according to HIS PURPOSE that these things occur; the same holds true for the wicked as God has no joy in the death of the wicked ( Ezekiel 18:23) but grace is only available for repentance in THIS LIFE according to His terms.
Nicely put, I too frown on belittling , it should be met with tough Love , I found this on the web "What does the Bible say about tough love?"
Aug 10, 2022 Tough love is often necessary because, as fallen humans, we have a tendency not to respond to gentle taps on the shoulder. Our heavenly Father will do whatever is necessary to conform His children into the likeness of Christ, as He predestined us for this very reason ( Romans 8:28-30 ). Indeed, this is what His discipline is all about.
How to pray & how to endure through crisis = Luke 22:40, Matthew 6, Luke 11, Romans 8:26-39,
Psalms 139, (remember the guy that wrote that, had to live in caves for a time, while fleeing unjust persecution,) Jesus himself had to encourage himself knowing while everyone else would abandon Him, GOD would not. John 16:32,33,
Mark 14:38, Mark 11:13-26, Luke 21:36, Hebrews 13:3,5,6,
Luke 18, John 14:16,
2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, Matthew 24:13, Romans 8:18,
Your question, who are the dead in Christ that rise first?
They were the Old Testament Saints, they died not having received the promise, eternal life through the resurrection of Christ Jesus.
When Christ was resurrected, they also were resurrected.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were open; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves, after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, (NEW Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
They were caught up into the air, and when we depart this body of flesh, in the twinkling of an eye, we are caught up, as they were into the presence of God, because you are married to him and have become one with him.
Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a lamb stood on Mt. Zion, and with him an hundred and forty four thousand (symbolic, not literally 144,00), having his father's name written in their foreheads.
Revelation 14:4 ..... the are the firstfruits (of Christ resurrection) unto God and the Lamb.
Romans 8:23 And not only they (Old Saints), but ourselves also, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the SPIRIT (life and truth in us) ....
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection .....
God through the inspiration of the Spirit gives David confidence against his foes in Psalm 27.
We are reminded in verse 4 of Psalm 84:10 as to it being better having the lowest position as "gatekeeper" in heaven than anything on earth; or the alternative of hell; certainly.
Verses 5 and 6 remind us of Psalm 40 in being lifted up and trusting in the Rock of God which is Christ. There could possibly be prophetic overtones in either passage of the Rapture; and or protection during times in the future Tribulation for certain Jews in hiding. We see a theme here of continuing trust in God; not just a fleeting moment when trouble arises. This helps an individual be able to clearly hear the voice of the Lord with all the competing ones of the world; the flesh and the Devil. Verse 9 shows to some extent how the Spirit was more transient in the lives of the O.T. saints; although God's people still ultimately were saved.
Verse 10 certainly cannot be overstated as it fits in to so many today; certainly whose own families foresake them or worse for proclaiming the Gospel truth. We are today "adopted sons" of Christ ( Romans 8:14-17) if truly Born Again. We have a Father in heaven who never leaves us or foresakes us.
Verse 12 demonstrates how false witnesses came up in David's life and certainly this applies to Christ when on earth. Finally; there is an admonition in the last two verses to wait patiently; as well as a hint of the Millennium Kingdom in verse 13 when we can be certain thar goodness will be in the "land of the living." Today the remnant believers are few and far between and many have fallen away as the scriptures predict.
Hebrews 10:19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (We can now come into his presence)
1 Corinthians 6:19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (Because he abides in us.)
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is "HE" that is in you, than he that is in the world. (It is a "HE" that is in you that is stronger than he that is in the world.)
John 17:21-23. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, (AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM). "The Holyspirit is God's spirit in us!
Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. (It is the father, the son, and the Holyspirit abiding in us according to these scriptures.) AND THESE THREE ARE ONE.
Ephesians 4:4-6. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
With so many scriptures like this given a would be confusing if there were no trinity.
The way you have explained it often is well represented by scripture.
John 4:24 GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
"ONE LORD," one faith, ONE BAPTISM,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
Romans 8:11. ( BUT IF THE SPIRIT OF HIM ) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, HE THAT RAISED UP CHRIST FROM THE DEAD shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth in you.
1 Corinthians 15:45. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM WAS MADE A QUICKENING SPIRIT.
Acts 13:30. But God raised him from the dead:
Study these verses and you will see the trinity in who raised up Christ from the dead.
John 10:17. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Praise the LORD for all the comforting words of wisdom declared and shared on this forum. It is good to know that brethren exist and are active in every avenue of worship and praise unto the LORD JESUS CHRIST. It is like traveling- no matter where I go I can be assured there will be body of believers singing the praises of the LORD; preaching the Word of GOD; and I will comforted and allowed to be amongst them.
Let us extend our faith and knowledge of the LORD by praying and calling on GOD for HIS hand upon our current leadership in Washington. Our trust in Scripture and obedience to the same will bring about change as GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST see best for our times. May we lay aside every weight, especially the sin before us, and "let us run with patience the race that is set before us. Looking unto JESUS the author and finisher of our faith;..." Hebrews 12: 1b, 2a
So much before us to pray for and be active in; there is much we can do in HIS name. Let us start from the beginning: Romans 10: 9, 10; Ephesians 2: 8-10; Matthew 28: 18-20; 2 Chronicles 7:14, 15; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2: 1-5; 2 Peter 1: 1-8. Many more passages, I'm sure you can add to the list, Amen!
GOD bless everyone on this forum, and may the LORD GOD meet all your needs. "Who shall separate us from the love of CHRIST? ... Nay, in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us." Romans 8: 35, 37, 38, 39
The LORD bless you, and keep you! The LORD to make HIS face to shine on you, and be gracious to you. The LORD to lift HIS countenance upon you, and give you peace. Numbers 6: 24-26
This is a very short Psalm. Nonetheless; we can ponder a theme here which is apparently a subject in the forefront of David's mind throughout the first section at least of Psalms; namely a petition for God to give him victory over his enemies and to heed to his sufferings.
As with many of these inspired writings; we certainly can look at Christ as being prophetically referenced to here. We are reminded of Psalm 22; as well as the times when Christ Himself said "why have you foresaken me?" ( Matt. 27:46). There is ultimate trust in David in verse 5; which we can all cling onto. Only Christ had to have that unspeakable horror of God's mercy removed for that brief moment in time. Only Christ COULDN'T pray for salvation of His soul (unnecessary for a member of the deity). But only He could procure the punishment for our sin as an atonement; and hence WOULD not be released from being a sin offering as it was clearly part of God's plan for the redemption of man.
We also are remined in Psalm 23:5 where a table is prepared in the presence of enemies. This could certainly apply to us; in the Millennium Kingdom as well as the Lord Himself when He rules with an iron rod. Any saint of God recognizes in general that they are in enemy territory lest they become too content in the world which is about to perish as it exists now in its fallen state under Satan's control. We are reminded of Christ's admonition to us that a servant is no greater than his master ( Jn. 13:16) and can truly understand we also will have trials as the Lord Himself was the "man of sorrows" ( iSAIAH 53:3). Man is but a vapor ( Romans 8:7 and mentioned further in Psalm 62:9; etal.
Amen GiGi. The question that should be asked is: 'how much do we allow the Holy Spirit to have of us, so as to direct our lives?' We know that the Spirit of God yearns that we be conformed to Christ's Image ( Romans 8:29); yet our flesh continually desires conformation to the world ( Romans 12:2). The more of the 'world' that drops off, the road before us towards maturity (perfection) becomes more visible & desirable - though the end of it can only be Heaven when all traces of the world & sin are removed.
As the apostle wrote, "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit" ( Galatians 5:24,25). And it's only by the Power of the Spirit in us can our flesh be crucified, and only by the Life of the Spirit in us can we truly walk in the Spirit, desiring only to please our Lord God & His Son. Those who so walk, can be confident that "an entrance shall be ministered unto (them) abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." ( 2 Peter 1:11).
Today I pray for these who need help today We know that whou we call on you anything is possible I pray that you give strength to those who are weary and burdened replace their anxious thoughts with your peace We know you are faithful and kind and your timing is perfect I thank you hard we pray in the name of Jesus Christ
The Bible is interesting about "brother" generations after Esau & Jacob the brotherhood was still very significant to GOD.= Obadiah 1:10,12,13,14,15,
Jesus speaking : Matthew 12:47-50, John 1:12
If we can call each other "bro, brother," in slang in our society, just relation in sporting ....? Is it the Son of GOD reference? 2Peter 2, note 2Peter 2:7-9, Romans 8:14, Hebrews 11,
Good questions.
The emphasis was on the motive in which we do things. " Examine ourselves to see if we are doing it by command. glory or Agape.
I believe what is important is the Heart behind every action.
The work and the heart behind the things we do that pleases God can only be achieved by the Holyspirit.
Romans 8:7-9.
In my post I was asking WHAT IS OUR MOTIVE when we do the things we are asked NOT to do.
That's why a stated; "If we are supposed to be moved by the Spirit "by the instrument of faith" unto good works but yet we don't display good works, then our faith is vain/dead, Then is it fair to say that if we provide works THAT IS NOT BY THE INFLUENCE of the spirit that causes obedience to God's word, "then our work is vain."
Here's an Scriptural example
Matthew 6:1-8.
If our works confirms our faith and that work is tried by fire, it will stand. But if we perform a work we are asked NOT to do, What is the motive? Pride? And should we care?
If pride I believe we are building with wood hay and stubble. It will go up in smoke!
So the context in these posts isn't focused on the people in rebellion to God's instructions. It's focus is on those who seem content in their salvation when we should be concerned about the order mentioned in scripture that helps us grow so we don't become lukewarm.
Our attitude and trust in God's structure and instructions being profound or not to Grow "or perfect" the Church is on trial
Ephesians 4:11-16. seems to say he gave particular offices to particular people to Prosper the Church.
Thanks and Goodnight.
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.
And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
The Hebrew people included many peoples descended from Eber. He had two sons, Joktan (had 13 sons) and Peleg. he had other sons and daughters also. The lineage of Peleg is the line from which Abraham descended. So. Abraham and his lineage were but one of many lines from Eber. So, there were and are many Hebrew peoples that did not descend from Abraham. Yet God chose Abraham out of all the descendants of Noah to select out a specific subgroups of Hebrews to be His chosen people to covenant with.
In the world today, there are people who descended from Shem, Ham, or Japheth. Many are a mix of these lineages over the generations. We are not all Hebrews due to this.
And remember Bro. Paul speaks of the whole Creation in Travail n birth pains...becoming incorruptible simply we are all gonna be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.... Romans 8:21...ok gtg..Gbu...And this Woman keeps the commandments..b/c her child cannot sin....That new born babe desiring the sincere milk of the word is the H.G. that Paul speaks of is the Child of PROMISE..Our new innerman the H.G...The very gift of God.
Again; the ceremonial laws Christ Himself deliberately allowed to be broken (such as eating heads of grain on the Sabbath Day). He also corrected the Pharisees as to what "work" truly involved; showing that mercy was more important than blind legalism by healing on the Sabbath repeatedly.
In some sense then the New Covenant or more superior one abrogated the old ( Hebrews 9:15). Even the Old Testament allowed for God's grace to stand above judgment; for instance with David's sin with Bathsheeba that involved adultery and being complicit to murder. These were death sentence penalties according to the law. God also had a greater plan since His lineage came from the line of David. Notwithstanding this; however there was collateral damage such as the loss of the child (who David would see someday in heaven); as well as enemies being a constant thorn in the side.
Our sin is a serious matter; Paul warned the Corinthians about taking communion unworthily ( 1 Cor. 11:27); as well as in the book of Acts Ananias and Sapphira were killed because they lied to the Holy Spirit. We can then be saved but taken out early; if we are saved. Those who continue in an unrepentant LIFESTYLE of sin likely aren't saved as there is no conviction of the Spirit; or new heart showing genuine conversion. We must not only know the truth but LOVE it.
The 10 Commandments therefore are still in force today; but we are unable to follow with the MORE stringent matters of the heart which only again comes from the Spirit. Without this there is an outward obedience only. The only thing which has changed is the Sabbath Day; and I would say that Matthew 12:8 answers this by placing Sunday as the day of rest. This is also the only command that was peculiar to the nation of Israel; rather than universal law which clearly as shown with John the Baptist in matters of divorce holding for pagans as well. Other ceremonial rules changed with Peter's vision in Acts 10.
Verses 9 through 11 show how once again the armies of Israel were being defeated. Verse 11 has a similar tone to verse 22 which appears in a statement by Paul in regard to the Apostles being persecuted ( Romans 8:36). It is also true that Chris Himself was led like this as prophesied in Isaiah 53:7. Evidence of being sold into slavery is in verse 12. Verse 16 talks of the voice o he who blasphemes; that could be true of the Assyrian king as well as Antichrist in the future. Evidently in this case; adherance to the covenant or worship of false gods at this time was NOT an issue (v. 20).
The rest of the Psalm (verses 23-26) seem to indicate that God appears to have taken a sabbatical so to speak in regard to action to deliver His people. This is the affect of the Godly remnant who remain on the earth in the end times in particular. The time of "Jacob's trouble" necessitates a trial; but His people will eventually be delivered out of it. Even verses in Deuteronomy mention tribulation and that God is still present at that time. Despite all the attempts of the enemy the Lord has a plan for His people that cannot fail ultimately.
Well spoken, Jesus came to redeem all of creation from the curse pronounced on the world in Genesis. The work of the cross didn't just redeem us, Christ came to redeem all that was created. Romans 8:21-23. The commandments weren't set forth to do that. The commandments were to show the need for redemption.
The commandments given didn't say keep the commandments the best you can.
The second you broke any one of them you were forever lost if there was no sacrifice that could take away sin. Hebrews 10:1-5.
It was the sacrifices that pointed to Christ that made atonement for those sins.
Israel having God in their midst with all the providence showed the world that the heart of man is incurably wicked.
The law showed that there was a need of a savior that could regenerate the believer and give a new heart and life.
The commandments are Holy and was given to a nation that was set apart to show man with God in their midst was nothing like God being "IN" them.
That's what's available today.
God bless.
The keys, the Greek word Kleis, are not actual keys in a physical form, it is the power and authority to open and shut. The first of the verse "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold I am alive for evermore". Jesus conquered death because He was sinless, Acts 2:24, and the devil/Satan who had the power of death, that is, the devil (Satan), Heb. 2:14-15 1 John 3:8.
Romans 8:10-11 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
My understanding is Jesus was in the tomb/hell for the three days and He did not ascend to the Father until He rose from the tomb. John 20:17, Jesus ascended to the Father and presented himself and was accepted by God the First Fruits of them that slept. He returned and met the women on the road going to tell the apostles and they could then touch Him, Matt.28:9.
God bless,
RLW
By simple surface study, it seems not to be in the Bible before or after & debated as not GOD's WORD.
I myself stay away from it because some things I've heard say in it, contradict Bible scripture. If you're in question read Tobit in 1611, Philippians 2, Romans 8:14, Hebrews 1:13,14, Matthew 22:30,
I humbly recommend to you, please read the Word within Genesis to Revelation, study get to know the scriptures well, ask for wisdom James 1:5 & discerment of Truth before looking into the other, if you do at all
Hopefully these are helpful in your searching
Psalm 139:8 shows that God is everywhere; including in what was the abode of the dead; Sheol. Think for a minute what this implies. When we see what can only be taken as a literal story of Lazarus and the rich man we see two individuals clearly in a different state in the afterlife. In fact; the rich man is still there and will be until the Great White Throne Judgment.
The souls of the righteous; however are now present with the Lord ( Ephesians 4:8; 2 Cor. 5:6).
No longer are those who die in the Lord held captive by the Devil from the presence of God ( Hebrews 2:14-15). Only the rightous will actually see God; Psalm 11:6-7 illustrate this along with the fate of the wicked in hell in great detail. Even this life; in fact shows how one can be dead in trespasses and sins yet physically alive ( Ephesians 2:1). This will be the eternal state for the wicked in the lake of fire.
Our human minds cannot conceive how God does not change; and how He can be a God of mercy and grace yet render eternal judgment on the unregenerate; also those whose souls God created ( Ezekiel 18:4). Nonetheless; that verse illustrates how a father and son and blood relations are not relevant for determining the salvation of an individual. We see that in the book of Joshua with Gideon that God is for those who are on his side; whatever we percieve in our reality as the right or wrong sides. God brings good to those who love Him ( Romans 8:28). It is according to HIS PURPOSE that these things occur; the same holds true for the wicked as God has no joy in the death of the wicked ( Ezekiel 18:23) but grace is only available for repentance in THIS LIFE according to His terms.
Aug 10, 2022 Tough love is often necessary because, as fallen humans, we have a tendency not to respond to gentle taps on the shoulder. Our heavenly Father will do whatever is necessary to conform His children into the likeness of Christ, as He predestined us for this very reason ( Romans 8:28-30 ). Indeed, this is what His discipline is all about.
Psalms 139, (remember the guy that wrote that, had to live in caves for a time, while fleeing unjust persecution,) Jesus himself had to encourage himself knowing while everyone else would abandon Him, GOD would not. John 16:32,33,
Mark 14:38, Mark 11:13-26, Luke 21:36, Hebrews 13:3,5,6,
Luke 18, John 14:16,
2Timothy 2:3, 2Timothy 4:5, Matthew 24:13, Romans 8:18,
Hopefully these help you
Your question, who are the dead in Christ that rise first?
They were the Old Testament Saints, they died not having received the promise, eternal life through the resurrection of Christ Jesus.
When Christ was resurrected, they also were resurrected.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were open; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves, after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, (NEW Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
They were caught up into the air, and when we depart this body of flesh, in the twinkling of an eye, we are caught up, as they were into the presence of God, because you are married to him and have become one with him.
Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a lamb stood on Mt. Zion, and with him an hundred and forty four thousand (symbolic, not literally 144,00), having his father's name written in their foreheads.
Revelation 14:4 ..... the are the firstfruits (of Christ resurrection) unto God and the Lamb.
Romans 8:23 And not only they (Old Saints), but ourselves also, which have the FIRSTFRUITS of the SPIRIT (life and truth in us) ....
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection .....
God Bless You!
We are reminded in verse 4 of Psalm 84:10 as to it being better having the lowest position as "gatekeeper" in heaven than anything on earth; or the alternative of hell; certainly.
Verses 5 and 6 remind us of Psalm 40 in being lifted up and trusting in the Rock of God which is Christ. There could possibly be prophetic overtones in either passage of the Rapture; and or protection during times in the future Tribulation for certain Jews in hiding. We see a theme here of continuing trust in God; not just a fleeting moment when trouble arises. This helps an individual be able to clearly hear the voice of the Lord with all the competing ones of the world; the flesh and the Devil. Verse 9 shows to some extent how the Spirit was more transient in the lives of the O.T. saints; although God's people still ultimately were saved.
Verse 10 certainly cannot be overstated as it fits in to so many today; certainly whose own families foresake them or worse for proclaiming the Gospel truth. We are today "adopted sons" of Christ ( Romans 8:14-17) if truly Born Again. We have a Father in heaven who never leaves us or foresakes us.
Verse 12 demonstrates how false witnesses came up in David's life and certainly this applies to Christ when on earth. Finally; there is an admonition in the last two verses to wait patiently; as well as a hint of the Millennium Kingdom in verse 13 when we can be certain thar goodness will be in the "land of the living." Today the remnant believers are few and far between and many have fallen away as the scriptures predict.
Hebrews 10:19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (We can now come into his presence)
1 Corinthians 6:19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (Because he abides in us.)
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is "HE" that is in you, than he that is in the world. (It is a "HE" that is in you that is stronger than he that is in the world.)
John 17:21-23. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, (AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM). "The Holyspirit is God's spirit in us!
Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. (It is the father, the son, and the Holyspirit abiding in us according to these scriptures.) AND THESE THREE ARE ONE.
Ephesians 4:4-6. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
With so many scriptures like this given a would be confusing if there were no trinity.
The way you have explained it often is well represented by scripture.
God bless you.
John 4:24 GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Ephesians 4:4-6 There is one body, and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
"ONE LORD," one faith, ONE BAPTISM,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
Romans 8:11. ( BUT IF THE SPIRIT OF HIM ) that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, HE THAT RAISED UP CHRIST FROM THE DEAD shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT that dwelleth in you.
1 Corinthians 15:45. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM WAS MADE A QUICKENING SPIRIT.
Acts 13:30. But God raised him from the dead:
Study these verses and you will see the trinity in who raised up Christ from the dead.
John 10:17. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
God bless.
Let us extend our faith and knowledge of the LORD by praying and calling on GOD for HIS hand upon our current leadership in Washington. Our trust in Scripture and obedience to the same will bring about change as GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST see best for our times. May we lay aside every weight, especially the sin before us, and "let us run with patience the race that is set before us. Looking unto JESUS the author and finisher of our faith;..." Hebrews 12: 1b, 2a
So much before us to pray for and be active in; there is much we can do in HIS name. Let us start from the beginning: Romans 10: 9, 10; Ephesians 2: 8-10; Matthew 28: 18-20; 2 Chronicles 7:14, 15; 2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2: 1-5; 2 Peter 1: 1-8. Many more passages, I'm sure you can add to the list, Amen!
GOD bless everyone on this forum, and may the LORD GOD meet all your needs. "Who shall separate us from the love of CHRIST? ... Nay, in all things we are more than conquerors through HIM that loved us." Romans 8: 35, 37, 38, 39
The LORD bless you, and keep you! The LORD to make HIS face to shine on you, and be gracious to you. The LORD to lift HIS countenance upon you, and give you peace. Numbers 6: 24-26
Don't forget to vote on November!
October 11, 2022
As with many of these inspired writings; we certainly can look at Christ as being prophetically referenced to here. We are reminded of Psalm 22; as well as the times when Christ Himself said "why have you foresaken me?" ( Matt. 27:46). There is ultimate trust in David in verse 5; which we can all cling onto. Only Christ had to have that unspeakable horror of God's mercy removed for that brief moment in time. Only Christ COULDN'T pray for salvation of His soul (unnecessary for a member of the deity). But only He could procure the punishment for our sin as an atonement; and hence WOULD not be released from being a sin offering as it was clearly part of God's plan for the redemption of man.
We also are remined in Psalm 23:5 where a table is prepared in the presence of enemies. This could certainly apply to us; in the Millennium Kingdom as well as the Lord Himself when He rules with an iron rod. Any saint of God recognizes in general that they are in enemy territory lest they become too content in the world which is about to perish as it exists now in its fallen state under Satan's control. We are reminded of Christ's admonition to us that a servant is no greater than his master ( Jn. 13:16) and can truly understand we also will have trials as the Lord Himself was the "man of sorrows" ( iSAIAH 53:3). Man is but a vapor ( Romans 8:7 and mentioned further in Psalm 62:9; etal.
As the apostle wrote, "And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit" ( Galatians 5:24,25). And it's only by the Power of the Spirit in us can our flesh be crucified, and only by the Life of the Spirit in us can we truly walk in the Spirit, desiring only to please our Lord God & His Son. Those who so walk, can be confident that "an entrance shall be ministered unto (them) abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." ( 2 Peter 1:11).
Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?
God said let us make man in our image.
God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)
Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendeth forth thy Spirit, they are created, thou renewest the face of the earth.
John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).
John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....
Colossians 1:2 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....
Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
You must be born again: understand what awaits you when you leave this body of flesh.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....
1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).
1 Corinthians 15:28 ....that God may be ALL in ALL.
Ephesians 4:4 ....One Spirit (eternal life)......One Body (creation, that inherited eternal life)
God bless you.
Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?
God said let us make man in our image.
God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)
Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).
John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....
Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
You must be born again: do you understand what awaits us when we leave this body of flesh.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....
1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).
God bless you.
The Bible is interesting about "brother" generations after Esau & Jacob the brotherhood was still very significant to GOD.= Obadiah 1:10,12,13,14,15,
Jesus speaking : Matthew 12:47-50, John 1:12
If we can call each other "bro, brother," in slang in our society, just relation in sporting ....? Is it the Son of GOD reference? 2Peter 2, note 2Peter 2:7-9, Romans 8:14, Hebrews 11,
Hopefully these are helpful