But now return to the prophecy of Luke 2:34, "Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel," rising again has to do the resurrection, that is, the resurrection of our soul when we become born from above by the power of God, which is called the first resurrection. When Christ crucified and his body placed in the tomb, he arose on the third day. Even so, those who become saved have experienced the resurrection of their soul to spiritual life.
The fall and rising again of many in Israel can be viewed from at least two perspectives: the fall and rising again of the elect as a consequence of the fall of national Israel, and the fall and rising again of the elect resulting from the fall of the churches and congregations in our day. First, let's look at the fall of national Israel.
Romans 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Romans 10:17 - So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The terms "by" in the text is actually the preposition "out of" as a source. Faith is a fruit of God's Spirit. It is not of man. Faith is a word that describes the activity of God's Spirit. Faith comes to us from out of hearing God's word. His Spirit ministers to us and persuades us and gives us the faith to do what God wants us to do out of the hearing of His word.
Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
The rest of Israel were blinded! The word for blinded is POROO, pronounced Po-ro-oh. It's where we get our word porous from. It means to harden, to become stubborn, to cover with callouses.
And so, when it uses the word blinded, it means that Israel became insensitive to God. That's what callouses are for. You know, when you get out and start digging for the first time, you get blisters, and after a while you build up callouses. It makes it insensitive so that you don't feel it as much. They had become calloused.
Romans 11:29 - For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Do you see how that fits in? Nothing shall separate us from the love of God. I have shared this in the past, but there are two words in the Greek for repentance. METANOEO is the normal word for repentance for salvation.
The word repentance, and there's two words in the Greek. METANOEO is the normal word for repentance. That's the repentance for salvation. METAMELOMAI is used of Judas Iscariot in Matthew 27:3. That word doesn't mean I repent, it means I'm sorry, like "I'm sorry it all happened."
This word here in Verse 29 is METAMELOMAI. This is in reference to Israel over the sovereign election of Israel. God is not sorry for His gifts and His calling.
Romans 10:2 - For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
The word zeal means to boil, to be on fire. We hear about people being "on fire" for the Lord!" Those are the people that I would stay out of their way lest I catch fire!
It says that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. If that zeal, that fervency, is not governed by the truth of God's word, it's dangerous because it becomes strictly excitement. And the thing that is lacking today is the same as in Hosea's day when he expressed God's heart when he said, "My people perish for a lack of knowledge."
We're in a day and age where people are more and more disinterested in what the bible has to say. And yet in it, God reveals Himself. You can't get a more important book than that.
But Israel has a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. In other words, they knew Messiah was coming but they didn't know that Jesus was the Messiah. They didn't put all the knowledge together. In fact, the word knowledge is the word "Complete knowledge." In the Geek text it is EPI and GNOSKO. Not according to complete knowledge. They had some of the knowledge but not all of it.
Roman 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
If thou shalt confess with thy mouth Lord Jesus. Please notice that I left out the word "the" because it's not in the Greek text. It's not a statement that a person says, but rather a personal relationship that one expresses. For instance, if you will confess in your mouth Lord Jesus, that's your relationship with Him.
And you shall believe in thine heart that God has raised him from the dead (because the Jews did not believe that He was the Messiah, and they did not believe in His resurrection), thou shalt be saved. It's a promise for the future. It doesn't say you are saved, but thou shalt be saved.
Revelation 21:4 - And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 10:9-13 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 2:9 - But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Revelation 22:1-5 - And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. (Read More...)
Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Matthew 6:19-21 - Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: (Read More...)
Luke 12:33-34 - Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. (Read More...)
1 Timothy 6:17-19 - Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; (Read More...)
Revelation 21:22-27 - And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. (Read More...)
Hebrews 11:16 - But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Many, many Scriptures repeat again and again that there is no salvation through human goodness.
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost."- Titus 3:5.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."- Eph. 2:8,9.
"Without shedding of blood is no remission."- Hebrews 9:22.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."- Romans 5:6.
"All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."- Isa. 53:6.
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot."- I Peter 1:18,19.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."- Rom. 6:23.
Dear sinner, remember that church membership will not save you. If you have been baptized, that cannot save you. Baptism does not save, does not keep anybody saved. It is only an act of duty for those who have already found Christ as their Saviour.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?"- Romans 10:13,14.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
"8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. My interpetation: Blessings of restoration Romans 6:23 KJV
'For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.'
Jesus Christ is God that is forgiveness of sins.A God that is a free gift that is better then nothing(zero) I did myself too
(A God that is forgiveness of sins, A God that is a free gift. Matthew 7:7-8 KJV)
If only we would honor God's intentions he will give us authority same as position of authority.
These scriptures say and has giving me authority to believe God ( Romans 10:9-10) identifying as Christian. Luke 9:1 KJV, Luke 10:19 KJV
Luke 9:1 KJV
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
Luke 10:19 KJV
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Me being Christian and honoring God has blessed me with authority&restoration by spending time with God, prayer, worship, gratitude, using my God-given gifts,talents,abilities to serve others. Making God number one in my heart.Being generous,treating others with dignity.
My identity being Christian helped me in life listening to God ( John 10:18 KJV) honoring God is symbolic of both a literal and spiritual kingdom.
John10:18 KJV
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
9/8/24AMEN
Interpetation and Word spoken by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
NOTE: Nowhere in the word of "God" says you have to join a church, to get Saved ! Or join a certain denominations.
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. It does not say, if, maybe, could be. It says "Shall" be "Saved".
"PRAISE THE LORD" Question: If you would pass away tonight/today. Do you know you are saved?
There are many denominations out there and many are filled with the wisdom of man with I am right, and you are wrong, not love. Salvation is in the simplicity that is in Christ that is with faith and prayer and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, in the Bible you will find the truth.
Romans 10:8-11 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Is being baptized in water in the name of Jesus in the Bible? Acts 2:38Romans 6:3-4 and more. Is being baptized with the Holy Ghost/Spirit in the Bible? 1 Corinthians 12:13Titus 3:52 Corinthians 1:21-22 and more. Does one come before the other, not necessarily, Acts 10:45-48, but the sealing of the Holy Ghost/Spirit in us is a must, Romans 8:11, read all of 8.
We must work out our salvation, Philippians 2:12, we will stand in judgment accountable for ourselves, what different denominations say will not acquit us. It is a lifetime journey, love and obedience are a must, Romans 6:16.
God bless you and God bless your journey He will always be with you and lift you up, John 16:131 Corinthians 16:23-24.
RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - In Reply - 3 months ago
Continued:
These are examples of people in fear, sickness and death situations and my ways and interpetation to overcome through Jesus Christ is God died /sacrifice on the cross , buried in a grave, after 3 day rose from the dead.
1) A man with health concerns was about to undergo another major surgery, he said that while he was anxious about his health and didn't want to die, he wasn't afraid of being sick or dying. He was asked why -and said he knew that whatever happened, God was in control. My interpetation he had faith ( Psalms 30:2 KJV ) and believed Jesus Christ is God ( Isaiah 56:6 KJV )
2) A trembling woman who had been sick for many years approached Jesus . Then she touched the edge of his cloak and was immediately healed! While she was afraid to speak up about what she had done. Jesus assured her that her faith in him had made her whole. Here is a textual scripture: Mark 5:25-34 KJV My interpetation is meaning she listened to God's commands believing the truth-Jesus Christ is God.( Isaiah 54:10 KJV,) bringing and end to the law Romans 10:4 KJV meaning made well and healed.
Mark 5:33 KJV
33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
3)Sickness and death are things that we all fear in one way or another My interpetation believing in God and not believing in God. But as we look at these grim realities, we need to see them through the lens of a Jesus sacrifice for us My interpetation: ( Matthew 3:2 KJV, Matthew 4:19 KJV, John 3:16 KJV) and God love for us Romans 5:8 KJV.
Matthew 3:2 KJV
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:19 KJV
And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
Have someone ever spoke to you or gave you writings about God's love?
Written and spoken interpetation Word by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
Daniel 5:17 KJV
Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation.
Respond:
This pronouncement was a direct consequence of Belshazzar's refusal to honor God and his reliance on his own strength and wisdom.
At this time Genesis 11:1-11 KJV ' This time is about a mythical tower built after the Deluge in the land of Shinar (Babylonia). The Babylonians wanted to build a city and a tower that would reach thr heavens to make a name for themselves and to symbolize their power. They believed that their unity of one language and hearing one god would allow them to collaborate efficiently and accomplish anything they wanted.
Ways you can overcome today believing in yourself like king Belshazzar' loss of his kingdom and not God is by when you think you hear from God, hearing his voice speak to you check the holy bible scriptures to see if its God's word and to obey God. You can overcome yourself (sons of men) by honoring and acknowledging God not to choose the riches of the world instead choose the riches of God. Psalms 112:3 KJV.
God had blessed me believimg in God to choose the riches of God to receive and honoring, acknowledging God in my life.
Honor- The esteem due and paid to worth, high estimatation.
Ways you can honor God is to believe in God, Romans 10:9-10 . To spend time with God in prayer, and worshiping God. Live of life that honors God living righteous in God sight. Submit to God's authority.
Ways you can acknowledge God is by prayer, gratitude, worshiping God, loving others with the love of God, confession of sins to God, to be part of a holy bible believing church.
Day 65 on GOD's calendar, of 153 day count spring/summer Pentecost rapture. Sunday is the REAL sabbath day. Get In the Ark NOW! BEFORE the Rapture - You MUST Only Believe in Jesus of Nazareth's Death, Burial and Resurrection to be eternally saved. 1 Cor 15:1-4 & Acts 16:31
AFTER the Rapture - You MUST Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and Believe without shame. Romans 10:9-13
July 19, 2024 Success without God is a fleeting illusion
2 Chronicles 25:19 KJV
Thou sayest, Lo, thou hast smitten the Edomites; and thine heart lifteth thee up to boast: abide now at home; why shouldest thou meddle to thine hurt, that thou shouldest fall, even thou, and Judah with thee?
My Respond:
It's best not to do what you believe in yourself if not of God to say and do. Because it can turn into pride that can lead to a defeat.
2 Chronicles 25:18 KJV
And Joash king of Israel sent to Amaziah king of Judah, saying, The thistle that was in Lebanon sent to the cedar that was in Lebanon, saying, Give thy daughter to my son to wife: and there passed by a wild beast that was in Lebanon, and trode down the thistle.
My Respond:
"Our strength and success, should always be grounded in obedience to God, not in your abilities & pride." My interpetation what has blessed me not to believe in thistle but to Trust in God Ephesians 6:15 KJV having obedience not to go astray staying aligned with God's will.
When it comes to our own logics and preparations we must see logic as the set of rules we must follow to think like God thinks , when is to think rightly . Logic undegirds morality , making decisions between right and wrong. Gives a clear conscience to speak and behave and helps you making decisions not to be bitter and harm people. To help have preparations is to read your bible ( Romans 12:2 KJv)
Preparation- In a general sense, to fit, adapt, or qualify fir a particular purpose,end, use, service, or state, by any means whatever.
Ways your logic can be in God's logic is come to God in humility to receive Jesus Christ in your heart ( Romans 10:9-10 KJV) believing in his death burial , resurrection.- Matthew 27:50 KJVMatthew 27:51 KJV, Matthew 28:9 KJV .
In Romans 9 Paul mentions the condition of Israel (AS A NATION)
Verses 31,32- "But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone.
Romans 10:16 reads But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, WHO HATH BELIEVED OUR REPORT?
So the Gospel was preached to them! as we see in Romans 10:16-18.
Romans 11:8 declares their position then, as well today!
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Romans 11:25-28 sums it up.
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
When Israel "as a nation" call on their Messiah and behold him as their Messiah they will call on him!
I believe this will happen in the tribulation and that is what Hosea is speaking of.
"I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, AND SEEK MY FACE: in their AFFLICTION they will seek me early.
THEY WON'T BEHOLD HIM (Remain in this blinded state) untill they shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23:39.
I believe we are somewhat limited in this knowledge of how God would judge soul that has absolutely heard nothing about the Gospel.
For one we can't be for sure about that number.
However, we do know God can send the message of salvation in many ways that points to the need of a savior, perhaps in types as he done in the old testament.
What Paul says in Romans 10:17 we often quote. "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Then we come to verse 18! "But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words UNTO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
So we do have record that the Gospel went out to the whole world and I believe if it's any thing that would be reserved it would be his word in some way.
Many of these "Third world countries" have gotten the Gospel in some fashion well before we became a nation. At some time or another there was an decay and judgment.
We are also headed for judgment due to pride.
We do get a glimpse of the fair judgment or atleast different degrees of judgment of God in the parable in Luke 12 and in Matthew 11:21-24.
Recently Rosaria Butterfield spoke as seen in a Cross Con site about repentance originally posted 5 months ago; but I am not sure where specifically she spoke. She mentioned how it is Christ in us and used verses in Romans about how sin dwells in us yet not I ( Romans 7:17). As to discussion on whether our old sin nature is completely dead or in a dying state as we are sanctified I will leave to another discussion. Here I am focusing on the audacity as it were; to anyone's reaction to such a bold statement that Christ lives in us.
If we think carefully; we become aware that the Holy Spirit works in a believer when we are convicted of sin and thus it is more than just carefully scripted language that fits the Biblical formula for salvation that affects anyone. The Lord chooses to use His Word along with the Spirit ( Romans 10:14) through the Great Commission to reach souls. There are instances where people read the Word and are convicted and come to conversion without a human agent directly involved in sharing scriptural truth; and reports of visions; dreams etc which have to be carefully evaluated. I believe it is possible for someone to recognize the Lord in someone even before sharing scripture. In any case the Lord does the work and receives all credit due.
Let me state what these facts are NOT.
1) Boasting in any way or through our attitudes displaying any air of superiority that we are saved; sanctified and delivered from the wrath to come. Christ Himself clearly came to serve and not to be served; and show the ultimate love sacrificing His life for His sheep ( Mark 10:45).
2) Working in our own strength to live out a life of righteousness or by merely following a confession or catechism or profession of faith.
It should be Christ in us that leads to true persecution and also draws people to Himself. It is not contention and strife merely to start an argument or get attention.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Psalm 45:11 KJV
My Respond evidence scriptures:
'So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: For he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. '
Psalm 119:128
'Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right, And I hate every false way.'
Believing in God ( Romans 10:9-10) is a precept.
Matthew 6:33 KJV
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Ways you can seek God is by reading your bible, and praying. Reading your bible and prayer is a sign of worship.
2 Kings 9:30-37 KJV 2 Kings 10:1-36 KJV
My Respond:
Romans 10:9-10 allows you to become like God at the time you believe. Believing in God is a sign of worship.
Romans 10:9-10 KJV
9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Colossians 2:14 KJV
'blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; '
Ephesians 2:15-16 KJV
15 having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
God has blessed me to become like his image, my inner man having faith and believing in Jesus Christ ( Romans 10:9-10 KJV) becomes a sign of worship. Reading my Bible and praying allows things to be added to me food, raiment and to do God's commission.
Commission- The state of that which is entrusted, as the great seal was put into commission; or the state of being authorized to act or perform service
'Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. '
My Respond: To Verse: Romans 8:27
Luke 23:46-47 KJV 'And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man. '
At the time of Jesus death has giving direct access to God through Jesus Christ. My faith in this scripture has giving me access to God through prayer.
Ways you can can have intercession with God is having faith trusting in Jesus death, burial, resurrection.(Gospel)
Romans 10:9-10 KJV
'that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 11 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. '
Thank you for those words. I do agree that salvation is offered to all through Christ, but not all will receive Him. Romans 10:8-10 which you have shared is a promise to everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord, that they will, not might, but they will be saved.
But yes, there has to be a response. A person must receive Christ. Please know that I never say "accept Christ" because the Bible never tells us to accept Him. It does tell us to receive Him. To me, to accept just means to mentally agree with something or someone. A person must receive Christ!
As far as there having to be a response from us, did you know that we are saints by calling?
In some of Paul's letters, we see the phrase "called to be saints," and the words "to be" are in italics. It's because the words "to be" were added. We are not called to be saints. We are called saints. It is God who called us, and we simply responded to the call!
And yes, I agree with you on the future restoration of the Jewish/Hebrew people. I believe that when Christ returns, every Jew alive on this earth will then realize that He is their Messiah that they crucified, and they will be saved!
Paul makes it clear in Romans 10:8-10. "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
There mustbe a response! You must receive and receiving a gift is not a act of works!
This doesn't add anything to the foundation already laid!
Once we recieve that precious gift then we are able to build on that foundation.
The Holyspirit takes action! Our actions exhibits our faith. It confirms a connection with our Lord.
It's amazing we're called God's elect by most, and they agree that is a work of God that can't be reversed. ( Well some of us agree to that)
But yet Israel is called God's elect but they would say Israel blew it.
While I'm on the subject of Israel look at Matt. 23:37
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, AND YE WOULD NOT!
(And they would not!)
There was a response needed to be made after the fulfillment of all those prophecies concerning their Messiah.
However, Thank God Paul lays their future out for us in Romans along with many references of their future restoration.
I think I do not quite get what you want to say. Of course trying to obey what God commands us to do comes after new birth. No doubt about that. The New Birth and the Baptism in the Sprit are the "tools" that God provides us in our struggle against sin and for changing our sinful heart to a holy heart. This change is not done at once, it takes time. Please read 1 Cor 3:1, "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ." So when we are born again and we are babies in Christ our heart is still carnal. As we grow spiritually (and allow God to work that carnal heart) then we become spiritually mature. And this takes time.
I don't think we disagree on this.
But new birth can not come before faith. As Brother Chris has said if one is saved by God by being born again before hearing about Christ, what is the point in believing in Christ after that? He is already saved anyway.
Romans 10:14-15, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
So faith comes by hearing (the gospel) and salvation comes by calling upon the name of the Lord (of which we have been preached about)
But maybe I haven't understood exactly what you want to say. You said, "And that we are entirely dependent upon God ALONE to change this horrible situation in our life" which means to change our heart. Yes, I agree on that.
Ephesians 2:1,8-10. As earlier mentioned, these verses show that we were dead in sin, but now made spiritually alive. And this has happed by God's Grace & God's Faith that are given to the sinner under conviction so that he might be saved. Grace & Faith must be present before re-birth - not after; if after re-birth, then there is no point in such needed Grace & Faith after salvation, for salvation is already received.
You may "fail to see how my understanding fits with any of the verses you have quoted", so I've shared what my understanding of those verses is. "Universal Atonement", or better, 'The Gospel to be brought to all people' is taught in the Bible ( John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20), that all need to hear of this Good News of Salvation & express faith in Jesus' finished Work to be accepted of God. Or else, the Holy Spirit should have alerted Paul, Peter, and others as to specific individuals that should hear, receive the Gospel & be saved, to the exclusion of all others. And I simply don't find them doing any such thing or even teaching it. True, the Lord knows who will come to Him in repentance & faith, but all must have the opportunity to hear & respond. And those who seriously attend to the Gospel & affected by it, will surely engage the Spirit's ministry to lead that lost sinful soul to the point of repentance & calling upon the Lord for salvation. Romans 10:12-17.
I believe David 0921, your paraphrasing of what I wrote is correct, though I would rewrite it more fully as, 'God has done His part and now it's up to us TO RESPOND TO HIS GIFT OF LOVE.' Here then is the problem, which of course I was attempting to draw you to, and that is, your understanding of Salvation is that God does the whole work to make it fully effective & even our response to it must be regarded as contributory to that salvation.
Yet, when I consider God's Part in it, I can only conceive of His Plan, His Provision of the Sacrifice, His Acceptance of that Work if fully completed, & His Receiving of those who have embraced it & been changed by His Spirit. I sense that the Plan you adhere to, stops at His completed Work, & anything subsequent to that completion is treated as 'adding to His Work - adding to our salvation'. If a repentant sinner, under the conviction of the Holy Spirit, responds to the Gospel, calling out to a Merciful God for forgiveness, I cannot believe that this sinner has added to the Gospel (even, to God's Plan) in any way at all. The Plan was conceived & fully completed - nothing could be added to it, though some have tried & still try. But to say that when we cry out for mercy & forgiveness is adding to that Plan, this becomes too unbelievable for me.
Therefore, in all of this, I cannot leave out both the convicting Work of God's Spirit ( John 16:7-11) coupled with Romans 10:8-10, "the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation": after hearing the Word, being convicted, confession & believing in what God has provided, salvation is given; and this is just the sinner's response to a Work that has already been done by God alone.
Amen Brother Chris and great point. That's why I can not be dogmatic on this.
If the water does represent the "hearing" of the word in this passage, Jesus didn't answer him.
That would make no sense to Nicodemus, being that he was a Teacher of the law.
If water represents a physical birth that would ring a bell.
But I'm not sure Jesus was trying to give him anything earthly or fleshly in this discourse when I consider verses 11 and 12.
"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
I sort of lean towards the scriptures you provided in Ephesians and Romans 10:8-9. "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
As to your question you have received several answers, my understanding in the Bible baptism is done only by immersion as the word means. As Jesse said sprinkling did not start until the 1300s and it was for the reason it was so inconvenient. So, this was done just because of convenience's sake, nothing Biblical about it. I agree with Giannis, and we must believe as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.
All we do is to be done in our Lord Jesus's name, Colossians 3:16-17. Many use Matthew 28:19 but we also see in the rest of Scripture that a person who is baptized in Jesus' name is someone who believes in Jesus as Savior, the Messiah, the Son of God who for us died, was buried, and was resurrected we acknowledge this by being baptized in His name, Acts 2:38Acts 8:12Acts 8:16Acts 10:48Acts 19:5Acts 22:16Romans 6:3Galatians 3:27Colossians 2:12Ephesians 4:5.
Paul shows the importance of being baptized in the name of Jesus, Acts 19:1-6. God has placed Jesus and His name above all that is in heaven and earth, Matthew 28:18Philippians 2:9-11. Salvation only comes in His name Acts 4:12Romans 10:13. The name of Jesus is the source of power and authority for healing, miracles, and deliverance, Mark 16:17Luke 10:17Acts 4:7Acts 4:30Acts 16:18.
We are to give thanks in Jesus's name, Ephesians 5:20. Our faith is through Him and in His name, Acts 3:16. We must believe in Jesus, John 3:16John 6:47Acts 16:311 John 3:231 John 5:13. Whatever we ask for we are to ask in His name, John 14:13-14. We are to pray to the Father in His name, James 5:14. Jesus is our priest and the only mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5.
Luke 6 says in these two verses: 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
And John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Proverbs 8:36 states that those who hate God love death (that is also somewhere in John I believe).
I am going out on a limb here somewhat; but I would say that in the context of verses in John and 1 John that indicate
evidence of saving faith is loving the brethren that would necessitate as with these other passages that first there is in
the individual a hearing of the Word of God. That would be probably what scripture would define as calling someone; or the "general call". The parable of the seed and the sower shows that; with the exception of the one in stony ground that Satan steals immediately; there is a process where BEFORE fruit comes to maturity there is a testing of trials as well as worldly temptations to try to thwart fruit coming to maturity.
At the very least; this proves that some come to faith and immediately begin to grow when they first hear the Gospel and others fall away. It also shows the third possibility such as is illustrated in Matthew 21:29-31 about two sons; one of whom says he won't follow but later does; and vice versa. This could be insight as to those who appear to be averse to conversion but later come to faith; along with a warning of those who only make a VERBAL assent but don't have a heart change as indicated by Romans 10:9. I haven't heard this analysis but think there is some merit to it; as anyone who falls away short of producing good fruit appears NOT to be saved in reality. Could part of being saved be our reaction to the testing of God? This could be a key factor many are missing and these verses show deeds follow words.
I would like to expound a little more on your statement saying, "you know how to get saved and it's hard for you because you're scared and nervous about it"
Here's why I asked you for clarity on that statement..
There's some hold to a legalistic viewpoint when coming to God for salvation.
In the Old testament Israel was given the Law and commandments the showed them and the world "Including us" we all have a fallen nature and is need of a savior.
As did the Israelites in the old testament they feared approaching God under that ministry of condemnation.
However, to them and us God provided a savior, our Lord Jesus Christ!
There is no need to fear, we have found mercy in Christ.
Ephesians 2:4-9.
We can now approach the throne of grace and there is no need of fear!
Hebrews 10:19-23 states, "Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
Romans 10:9 states "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
We confess that are a sinner, turn our hearts to God for his grace and mercy and he is faithful to forgive us.
"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out"
But now return to the prophecy of Luke 2:34, "Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel," rising again has to do the resurrection, that is, the resurrection of our soul when we become born from above by the power of God, which is called the first resurrection. When Christ crucified and his body placed in the tomb, he arose on the third day. Even so, those who become saved have experienced the resurrection of their soul to spiritual life.
The fall and rising again of many in Israel can be viewed from at least two perspectives: the fall and rising again of the elect as a consequence of the fall of national Israel, and the fall and rising again of the elect resulting from the fall of the churches and congregations in our day. First, let's look at the fall of national Israel.
Romans 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Cont. in Part 4
Romans 10:17 - So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
The terms "by" in the text is actually the preposition "out of" as a source. Faith is a fruit of God's Spirit. It is not of man. Faith is a word that describes the activity of God's Spirit. Faith comes to us from out of hearing God's word. His Spirit ministers to us and persuades us and gives us the faith to do what God wants us to do out of the hearing of His word.
Romans 11:7 - What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
The rest of Israel were blinded! The word for blinded is POROO, pronounced Po-ro-oh. It's where we get our word porous from. It means to harden, to become stubborn, to cover with callouses.
And so, when it uses the word blinded, it means that Israel became insensitive to God. That's what callouses are for. You know, when you get out and start digging for the first time, you get blisters, and after a while you build up callouses. It makes it insensitive so that you don't feel it as much. They had become calloused.
Romans 11:29 - For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Do you see how that fits in? Nothing shall separate us from the love of God. I have shared this in the past, but there are two words in the Greek for repentance. METANOEO is the normal word for repentance for salvation.
The word repentance, and there's two words in the Greek. METANOEO is the normal word for repentance. That's the repentance for salvation. METAMELOMAI is used of Judas Iscariot in Matthew 27:3. That word doesn't mean I repent, it means I'm sorry, like "I'm sorry it all happened."
This word here in Verse 29 is METAMELOMAI. This is in reference to Israel over the sovereign election of Israel. God is not sorry for His gifts and His calling.
Romans 10:2 - For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
The word zeal means to boil, to be on fire. We hear about people being "on fire" for the Lord!" Those are the people that I would stay out of their way lest I catch fire!
It says that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. If that zeal, that fervency, is not governed by the truth of God's word, it's dangerous because it becomes strictly excitement. And the thing that is lacking today is the same as in Hosea's day when he expressed God's heart when he said, "My people perish for a lack of knowledge."
We're in a day and age where people are more and more disinterested in what the bible has to say. And yet in it, God reveals Himself. You can't get a more important book than that.
But Israel has a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. In other words, they knew Messiah was coming but they didn't know that Jesus was the Messiah. They didn't put all the knowledge together. In fact, the word knowledge is the word "Complete knowledge." In the Geek text it is EPI and GNOSKO. Not according to complete knowledge. They had some of the knowledge but not all of it.
Roman 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
If thou shalt confess with thy mouth Lord Jesus. Please notice that I left out the word "the" because it's not in the Greek text. It's not a statement that a person says, but rather a personal relationship that one expresses. For instance, if you will confess in your mouth Lord Jesus, that's your relationship with Him.
And you shall believe in thine heart that God has raised him from the dead (because the Jews did not believe that He was the Messiah, and they did not believe in His resurrection), thou shalt be saved. It's a promise for the future. It doesn't say you are saved, but thou shalt be saved.
John 14:2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 10:9-13 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Read More...)
1 Corinthians 2:9 - But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Revelation 22:1-5 - And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. (Read More...)
Luke 23:43 - And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Matthew 6:19-21 - Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: (Read More...)
Luke 12:33-34 - Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. (Read More...)
1 Timothy 6:17-19 - Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; (Read More...)
Revelation 21:22-27 - And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. (Read More...)
Hebrews 11:16 - But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost."- Titus 3:5.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."- Eph. 2:8,9.
"Without shedding of blood is no remission."- Hebrews 9:22.
"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."- Romans 5:6.
"All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."- Isa. 53:6.
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot."- I Peter 1:18,19.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."- Rom. 6:23.
Dear sinner, remember that church membership will not save you. If you have been baptized, that cannot save you. Baptism does not save, does not keep anybody saved. It is only an act of duty for those who have already found Christ as their Saviour.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?"- Romans 10:13,14.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
COME LORD JESUS
May I ask, Where in scripture does it say speaking in tongues is the (EVIDENCE) of the Holyspirit being in us?
Also, If the Holyspirit is with us it's because he's IN us!
If you don't have the Holyspirit IN you you haven't been born again!
Do one have to speak in tongues to be saved? NO!
There's instances of some believers using the gift of tongues, but that does not teach that speaking in tongues is EVIDENCE of salvation.
None of the gospel presentations in the New Testament mention tongues.
John 3:16-18
Ephesians 2:1-10.
Acts 4:12.
Acts 16:31;
Romans 10:9-13.
1 Corinthians 15:3-8. Ephesians 2:1-10. ect
If speaking in tongues was necessary for salvation, or even the primary signifier of salvation, we would expect to read much more about tongues.
We have been given Christ!
We have Christ spirit in us!
There's gifts of the Spirit and that is performed by one gift. CHRIST!.
There's also fruit of the Spirit.
That's what needs to be present in a believer. Fruit!
If it's evidence what one is looking for it should be fruit! That means you are connected to the Genuine vine as mentioned in John 15
God requirements for righteousness is perfect and the only way a believer achieves that is Christ righteousness imputed over unto us.
You are given a covering, (Robe of righteousness) to cover the imperfection within you!
You're not perfect and don't meet God's requirements without this covering witch is an atonement for your sins.
Just to think you are perfect in the flesh shows an sinful nature.
1 John 1:8-9.
Blessings.
God bless.
"8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. My interpetation: Blessings of restoration Romans 6:23 KJV
'For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.'
Jesus Christ is God that is forgiveness of sins.A God that is a free gift that is better then nothing(zero) I did myself too
(A God that is forgiveness of sins, A God that is a free gift. Matthew 7:7-8 KJV)
If only we would honor God's intentions he will give us authority same as position of authority.
These scriptures say and has giving me authority to believe God ( Romans 10:9-10) identifying as Christian. Luke 9:1 KJV, Luke 10:19 KJV
Luke 9:1 KJV
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
Luke 10:19 KJV
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Me being Christian and honoring God has blessed me with authority&restoration by spending time with God, prayer, worship, gratitude, using my God-given gifts,talents,abilities to serve others. Making God number one in my heart.Being generous,treating others with dignity.
My identity being Christian helped me in life listening to God ( John 10:18 KJV) honoring God is symbolic of both a literal and spiritual kingdom.
John10:18 KJV
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
NOTE: Nowhere in the word of "God" says you have to join a church, to get Saved ! Or join a certain denominations.
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. It does not say, if, maybe, could be. It says "Shall" be "Saved".
"PRAISE THE LORD" Question: If you would pass away tonight/today. Do you know you are saved?
There are many denominations out there and many are filled with the wisdom of man with I am right, and you are wrong, not love. Salvation is in the simplicity that is in Christ that is with faith and prayer and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, in the Bible you will find the truth.
Romans 10:8-11 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Is being baptized in water in the name of Jesus in the Bible? Acts 2:38 Romans 6:3-4 and more. Is being baptized with the Holy Ghost/Spirit in the Bible? 1 Corinthians 12:13 Titus 3:5 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 and more. Does one come before the other, not necessarily, Acts 10:45-48, but the sealing of the Holy Ghost/Spirit in us is a must, Romans 8:11, read all of 8.
We must work out our salvation, Philippians 2:12, we will stand in judgment accountable for ourselves, what different denominations say will not acquit us. It is a lifetime journey, love and obedience are a must, Romans 6:16.
God bless you and God bless your journey He will always be with you and lift you up, John 16:13 1 Corinthians 16:23-24.
RLW
These are examples of people in fear, sickness and death situations and my ways and interpetation to overcome through Jesus Christ is God died /sacrifice on the cross , buried in a grave, after 3 day rose from the dead.
1) A man with health concerns was about to undergo another major surgery, he said that while he was anxious about his health and didn't want to die, he wasn't afraid of being sick or dying. He was asked why -and said he knew that whatever happened, God was in control. My interpetation he had faith ( Psalms 30:2 KJV ) and believed Jesus Christ is God ( Isaiah 56:6 KJV )
2) A trembling woman who had been sick for many years approached Jesus . Then she touched the edge of his cloak and was immediately healed! While she was afraid to speak up about what she had done. Jesus assured her that her faith in him had made her whole. Here is a textual scripture: Mark 5:25-34 KJV My interpetation is meaning she listened to God's commands believing the truth-Jesus Christ is God.( Isaiah 54:10 KJV,) bringing and end to the law Romans 10:4 KJV meaning made well and healed.
Mark 5:33 KJV
33 But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
3)Sickness and death are things that we all fear in one way or another My interpetation believing in God and not believing in God. But as we look at these grim realities, we need to see them through the lens of a Jesus sacrifice for us My interpetation: ( Matthew 3:2 KJV, Matthew 4:19 KJV, John 3:16 KJV) and God love for us Romans 5:8 KJV.
Matthew 3:2 KJV
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:19 KJV
And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
Have someone ever spoke to you or gave you writings about God's love?
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Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
Daniel 5:17 KJV
Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation.
Respond:
This pronouncement was a direct consequence of Belshazzar's refusal to honor God and his reliance on his own strength and wisdom.
At this time Genesis 11:1-11 KJV ' This time is about a mythical tower built after the Deluge in the land of Shinar (Babylonia). The Babylonians wanted to build a city and a tower that would reach thr heavens to make a name for themselves and to symbolize their power. They believed that their unity of one language and hearing one god would allow them to collaborate efficiently and accomplish anything they wanted.
Ways you can overcome today believing in yourself like king Belshazzar' loss of his kingdom and not God is by when you think you hear from God, hearing his voice speak to you check the holy bible scriptures to see if its God's word and to obey God. You can overcome yourself (sons of men) by honoring and acknowledging God not to choose the riches of the world instead choose the riches of God. Psalms 112:3 KJV.
God had blessed me believimg in God to choose the riches of God to receive and honoring, acknowledging God in my life.
Honor- The esteem due and paid to worth, high estimatation.
Ways you can honor God is to believe in God, Romans 10:9-10 . To spend time with God in prayer, and worshiping God. Live of life that honors God living righteous in God sight. Submit to God's authority.
Ways you can acknowledge God is by prayer, gratitude, worshiping God, loving others with the love of God, confession of sins to God, to be part of a holy bible believing church.
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AFTER the Rapture - You MUST Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and Believe without shame. Romans 10:9-13
amen
2 Chronicles 25:19 KJV
Thou sayest, Lo, thou hast smitten the Edomites; and thine heart lifteth thee up to boast: abide now at home; why shouldest thou meddle to thine hurt, that thou shouldest fall, even thou, and Judah with thee?
My Respond:
It's best not to do what you believe in yourself if not of God to say and do. Because it can turn into pride that can lead to a defeat.
2 Chronicles 25:18 KJV
And Joash king of Israel sent to Amaziah king of Judah, saying, The thistle that was in Lebanon sent to the cedar that was in Lebanon, saying, Give thy daughter to my son to wife: and there passed by a wild beast that was in Lebanon, and trode down the thistle.
My Respond:
"Our strength and success, should always be grounded in obedience to God, not in your abilities & pride." My interpetation what has blessed me not to believe in thistle but to Trust in God Ephesians 6:15 KJV having obedience not to go astray staying aligned with God's will.
When it comes to our own logics and preparations we must see logic as the set of rules we must follow to think like God thinks , when is to think rightly . Logic undegirds morality , making decisions between right and wrong. Gives a clear conscience to speak and behave and helps you making decisions not to be bitter and harm people. To help have preparations is to read your bible ( Romans 12:2 KJv)
Preparation- In a general sense, to fit, adapt, or qualify fir a particular purpose,end, use, service, or state, by any means whatever.
Ways your logic can be in God's logic is come to God in humility to receive Jesus Christ in your heart ( Romans 10:9-10 KJV) believing in his death burial , resurrection.- Matthew 27:50 KJVMatthew 27:51 KJV, Matthew 28:9 KJV .
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In Romans 9 Paul mentions the condition of Israel (AS A NATION)
Verses 31,32- "But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone.
Romans 10:16 reads But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, WHO HATH BELIEVED OUR REPORT?
So the Gospel was preached to them! as we see in Romans 10:16-18.
Romans 11:8 declares their position then, as well today!
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Romans 11:25-28 sums it up.
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
When Israel "as a nation" call on their Messiah and behold him as their Messiah they will call on him!
I believe this will happen in the tribulation and that is what Hosea is speaking of.
"I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, AND SEEK MY FACE: in their AFFLICTION they will seek me early.
THEY WON'T BEHOLD HIM (Remain in this blinded state) untill they shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Matthew 23:39.
God bless
I believe that is a very good and fair question.
I believe we are somewhat limited in this knowledge of how God would judge soul that has absolutely heard nothing about the Gospel.
For one we can't be for sure about that number.
However, we do know God can send the message of salvation in many ways that points to the need of a savior, perhaps in types as he done in the old testament.
What Paul says in Romans 10:17 we often quote. "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Then we come to verse 18! "But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words UNTO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
So we do have record that the Gospel went out to the whole world and I believe if it's any thing that would be reserved it would be his word in some way.
Many of these "Third world countries" have gotten the Gospel in some fashion well before we became a nation. At some time or another there was an decay and judgment.
We are also headed for judgment due to pride.
We do get a glimpse of the fair judgment or atleast different degrees of judgment of God in the parable in Luke 12 and in Matthew 11:21-24.
That's just my take Jaz.
Perhaps others can add.
God bless.
Recently Rosaria Butterfield spoke as seen in a Cross Con site about repentance originally posted 5 months ago; but I am not sure where specifically she spoke. She mentioned how it is Christ in us and used verses in Romans about how sin dwells in us yet not I ( Romans 7:17). As to discussion on whether our old sin nature is completely dead or in a dying state as we are sanctified I will leave to another discussion. Here I am focusing on the audacity as it were; to anyone's reaction to such a bold statement that Christ lives in us.
If we think carefully; we become aware that the Holy Spirit works in a believer when we are convicted of sin and thus it is more than just carefully scripted language that fits the Biblical formula for salvation that affects anyone. The Lord chooses to use His Word along with the Spirit ( Romans 10:14) through the Great Commission to reach souls. There are instances where people read the Word and are convicted and come to conversion without a human agent directly involved in sharing scriptural truth; and reports of visions; dreams etc which have to be carefully evaluated. I believe it is possible for someone to recognize the Lord in someone even before sharing scripture. In any case the Lord does the work and receives all credit due.
Let me state what these facts are NOT.
1) Boasting in any way or through our attitudes displaying any air of superiority that we are saved; sanctified and delivered from the wrath to come. Christ Himself clearly came to serve and not to be served; and show the ultimate love sacrificing His life for His sheep ( Mark 10:45).
2) Working in our own strength to live out a life of righteousness or by merely following a confession or catechism or profession of faith.
It should be Christ in us that leads to true persecution and also draws people to Himself. It is not contention and strife merely to start an argument or get attention.
Proverbs 16:18 KJV
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Psalm 45:11 KJV
My Respond evidence scriptures:
'So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: For he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. '
Psalm 119:128
'Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right, And I hate every false way.'
Believing in God ( Romans 10:9-10) is a precept.
Matthew 6:33 KJV
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Ways you can seek God is by reading your bible, and praying. Reading your bible and prayer is a sign of worship.
2 Kings 9:30-37 KJV 2 Kings 10:1-36 KJV
My Respond:
Romans 10:9-10 allows you to become like God at the time you believe. Believing in God is a sign of worship.
Romans 10:9-10 KJV
9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Colossians 2:14 KJV
'blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; '
Ephesians 2:15-16 KJV
15 having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
God has blessed me to become like his image, my inner man having faith and believing in Jesus Christ ( Romans 10:9-10 KJV) becomes a sign of worship. Reading my Bible and praying allows things to be added to me food, raiment and to do God's commission.
Commission- The state of that which is entrusted, as the great seal was put into commission; or the state of being authorized to act or perform service
Respond:
Romans 8:26-27KJV
'Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. '
My Respond: To Verse: Romans 8:27
Luke 23:46-47 KJV 'And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man. '
At the time of Jesus death has giving direct access to God through Jesus Christ. My faith in this scripture has giving me access to God through prayer.
Ways you can can have intercession with God is having faith trusting in Jesus death, burial, resurrection.(Gospel)
Romans 10:9-10 KJV
'that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 11 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. '
Thank you for those words. I do agree that salvation is offered to all through Christ, but not all will receive Him. Romans 10:8-10 which you have shared is a promise to everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord, that they will, not might, but they will be saved.
But yes, there has to be a response. A person must receive Christ. Please know that I never say "accept Christ" because the Bible never tells us to accept Him. It does tell us to receive Him. To me, to accept just means to mentally agree with something or someone. A person must receive Christ!
As far as there having to be a response from us, did you know that we are saints by calling?
In some of Paul's letters, we see the phrase "called to be saints," and the words "to be" are in italics. It's because the words "to be" were added. We are not called to be saints. We are called saints. It is God who called us, and we simply responded to the call!
And yes, I agree with you on the future restoration of the Jewish/Hebrew people. I believe that when Christ returns, every Jew alive on this earth will then realize that He is their Messiah that they crucified, and they will be saved!
God Bless!!!
Paul makes it clear in Romans 10:8-10. "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
There mustbe a response! You must receive and receiving a gift is not a act of works!
This doesn't add anything to the foundation already laid!
Once we recieve that precious gift then we are able to build on that foundation.
The Holyspirit takes action! Our actions exhibits our faith. It confirms a connection with our Lord.
It's amazing we're called God's elect by most, and they agree that is a work of God that can't be reversed. ( Well some of us agree to that)
But yet Israel is called God's elect but they would say Israel blew it.
While I'm on the subject of Israel look at Matt. 23:37
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, AND YE WOULD NOT!
(And they would not!)
There was a response needed to be made after the fulfillment of all those prophecies concerning their Messiah.
However, Thank God Paul lays their future out for us in Romans along with many references of their future restoration.
God bless.
I think I do not quite get what you want to say. Of course trying to obey what God commands us to do comes after new birth. No doubt about that. The New Birth and the Baptism in the Sprit are the "tools" that God provides us in our struggle against sin and for changing our sinful heart to a holy heart. This change is not done at once, it takes time. Please read 1 Cor 3:1, "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ." So when we are born again and we are babies in Christ our heart is still carnal. As we grow spiritually (and allow God to work that carnal heart) then we become spiritually mature. And this takes time.
I don't think we disagree on this.
But new birth can not come before faith. As Brother Chris has said if one is saved by God by being born again before hearing about Christ, what is the point in believing in Christ after that? He is already saved anyway.
Romans 10:14-15, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
So faith comes by hearing (the gospel) and salvation comes by calling upon the name of the Lord (of which we have been preached about)
But maybe I haven't understood exactly what you want to say. You said, "And that we are entirely dependent upon God ALONE to change this horrible situation in our life" which means to change our heart. Yes, I agree on that.
Ephesians 2:1,8-10. As earlier mentioned, these verses show that we were dead in sin, but now made spiritually alive. And this has happed by God's Grace & God's Faith that are given to the sinner under conviction so that he might be saved. Grace & Faith must be present before re-birth - not after; if after re-birth, then there is no point in such needed Grace & Faith after salvation, for salvation is already received.
You may "fail to see how my understanding fits with any of the verses you have quoted", so I've shared what my understanding of those verses is. "Universal Atonement", or better, 'The Gospel to be brought to all people' is taught in the Bible ( John 3:16, Matthew 28:18-20), that all need to hear of this Good News of Salvation & express faith in Jesus' finished Work to be accepted of God. Or else, the Holy Spirit should have alerted Paul, Peter, and others as to specific individuals that should hear, receive the Gospel & be saved, to the exclusion of all others. And I simply don't find them doing any such thing or even teaching it. True, the Lord knows who will come to Him in repentance & faith, but all must have the opportunity to hear & respond. And those who seriously attend to the Gospel & affected by it, will surely engage the Spirit's ministry to lead that lost sinful soul to the point of repentance & calling upon the Lord for salvation. Romans 10:12-17.
Yet, when I consider God's Part in it, I can only conceive of His Plan, His Provision of the Sacrifice, His Acceptance of that Work if fully completed, & His Receiving of those who have embraced it & been changed by His Spirit. I sense that the Plan you adhere to, stops at His completed Work, & anything subsequent to that completion is treated as 'adding to His Work - adding to our salvation'. If a repentant sinner, under the conviction of the Holy Spirit, responds to the Gospel, calling out to a Merciful God for forgiveness, I cannot believe that this sinner has added to the Gospel (even, to God's Plan) in any way at all. The Plan was conceived & fully completed - nothing could be added to it, though some have tried & still try. But to say that when we cry out for mercy & forgiveness is adding to that Plan, this becomes too unbelievable for me.
Therefore, in all of this, I cannot leave out both the convicting Work of God's Spirit ( John 16:7-11) coupled with Romans 10:8-10, "the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation": after hearing the Word, being convicted, confession & believing in what God has provided, salvation is given; and this is just the sinner's response to a Work that has already been done by God alone.
If the water does represent the "hearing" of the word in this passage, Jesus didn't answer him.
That would make no sense to Nicodemus, being that he was a Teacher of the law.
If water represents a physical birth that would ring a bell.
But I'm not sure Jesus was trying to give him anything earthly or fleshly in this discourse when I consider verses 11 and 12.
"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
I sort of lean towards the scriptures you provided in Ephesians and Romans 10:8-9. "But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Again, That may be inconclusive.
God bless you Brother.
As to your question you have received several answers, my understanding in the Bible baptism is done only by immersion as the word means. As Jesse said sprinkling did not start until the 1300s and it was for the reason it was so inconvenient. So, this was done just because of convenience's sake, nothing Biblical about it. I agree with Giannis, and we must believe as Jesus said in Mark 16:16.
All we do is to be done in our Lord Jesus's name, Colossians 3:16-17. Many use Matthew 28:19 but we also see in the rest of Scripture that a person who is baptized in Jesus' name is someone who believes in Jesus as Savior, the Messiah, the Son of God who for us died, was buried, and was resurrected we acknowledge this by being baptized in His name, Acts 2:38 Acts 8:12 Acts 8:16 Acts 10:48 Acts 19:5 Acts 22:16 Romans 6:3 Galatians 3:27 Colossians 2:12 Ephesians 4:5.
Paul shows the importance of being baptized in the name of Jesus, Acts 19:1-6. God has placed Jesus and His name above all that is in heaven and earth, Matthew 28:18 Philippians 2:9-11. Salvation only comes in His name Acts 4:12 Romans 10:13. The name of Jesus is the source of power and authority for healing, miracles, and deliverance, Mark 16:17 Luke 10:17 Acts 4:7 Acts 4:30 Acts 16:18.
We are to give thanks in Jesus's name, Ephesians 5:20. Our faith is through Him and in His name, Acts 3:16. We must believe in Jesus, John 3:16 John 6:47 Acts 16:31 1 John 3:23 1 John 5:13. Whatever we ask for we are to ask in His name, John 14:13-14. We are to pray to the Father in His name, James 5:14. Jesus is our priest and the only mediator between God and men, 1 Timothy 2:5.
God bless,
RLW
47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
And John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Proverbs 8:36 states that those who hate God love death (that is also somewhere in John I believe).
I am going out on a limb here somewhat; but I would say that in the context of verses in John and 1 John that indicate
evidence of saving faith is loving the brethren that would necessitate as with these other passages that first there is in
the individual a hearing of the Word of God. That would be probably what scripture would define as calling someone; or the "general call". The parable of the seed and the sower shows that; with the exception of the one in stony ground that Satan steals immediately; there is a process where BEFORE fruit comes to maturity there is a testing of trials as well as worldly temptations to try to thwart fruit coming to maturity.
At the very least; this proves that some come to faith and immediately begin to grow when they first hear the Gospel and others fall away. It also shows the third possibility such as is illustrated in Matthew 21:29-31 about two sons; one of whom says he won't follow but later does; and vice versa. This could be insight as to those who appear to be averse to conversion but later come to faith; along with a warning of those who only make a VERBAL assent but don't have a heart change as indicated by Romans 10:9. I haven't heard this analysis but think there is some merit to it; as anyone who falls away short of producing good fruit appears NOT to be saved in reality. Could part of being saved be our reaction to the testing of God? This could be a key factor many are missing and these verses show deeds follow words.
I would like to expound a little more on your statement saying, "you know how to get saved and it's hard for you because you're scared and nervous about it"
Here's why I asked you for clarity on that statement..
There's some hold to a legalistic viewpoint when coming to God for salvation.
In the Old testament Israel was given the Law and commandments the showed them and the world "Including us" we all have a fallen nature and is need of a savior.
As did the Israelites in the old testament they feared approaching God under that ministry of condemnation.
However, to them and us God provided a savior, our Lord Jesus Christ!
There is no need to fear, we have found mercy in Christ.
Ephesians 2:4-9.
We can now approach the throne of grace and there is no need of fear!
Hebrews 10:19-23 states, "Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
Romans 10:9 states "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
We confess that are a sinner, turn our hearts to God for his grace and mercy and he is faithful to forgive us.
"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out"
John 6:37.
God bless you Gideon.
For Your meditation,
John 14:6 kjv,
John 1:12-14,
1 Timothy 2:5,
1 Corinthians 15:1-4,
John 1:9,
Ephesians 1:7,
Romans 10:4,
John 8:32.