The word of God is the sword of the Spirit. We're told in Hebrews 4:12 that this sword is alive, active, and sharper than any sword you can imagine. This sword divides soul and spirit and it can judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. That's our Bible.
The sword of the Lord in the Bible is a symbolic representation of God's Word and the final battle against evil
The sword is a symbol of power, protection, authority, strength, and courage. The idea of the sword of the Spirit is that the Bible is a weapon to defend against evil and to demolish strongholds of error and falsehood.
Revelation 19:15
Describes the returning King of kings and Lord of lords using the sword of the Lord to "strike down the nations"
Acts 4:12
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
Just some thoughts on Revelation 12, it covers the past and the future up to the beginning of the 3.5 years of tribulation.
Part 1
Revelation 12:1-5 A wonder in heaven a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. Genesis 37:9-10 With Joseph is the 12 stars, the Sun, the moon, Jacob, and the mother represent Israel, the same woman all through this chapter to verse 17.
This is before the birth of the man-child, we see this woman represents Israel and the righteousness of the ancient fathers and prophets who labored through the years, and persecutions, as they groaned and longed for the promised Messiah, the promised seed of Abraham. The righteous physical Israel longing in pain for their coming Messiah represents the Woman in birth pain, Isaiah 26:17-19Micah 4:9-10.
Another wonder in heaven is the red dragon/Satan who cast a third of the stars/angels to the earth this will happen in the future. The dragon stood before the woman to devour the child. Satan through Herod and the Roman empire tried to kill Jesus as soon as He was born, Matthew 2:13-16. Israel birthed the Messiah/Jesus through the tribe of Judah who will rule the nations with a rod of iron Revelation 2:27Revelation 19:15.
After Jesus's resurrection, He was caught up to God and his throne, Ephesians 1:20-21. Verse 6 is what the woman will do after Satan and his angels are cast down to this earth, for 1260 days we see the same event in verse 14 a time and times and half a time, this is 3.5 years to be in the future. God will preserve a remnant and give a place of special divine protection for His people during these 3.5 years,
Just some thoughts on Revelation 12 it covers the past and the future up to the beginning of the 3.5 years of tribulation.
Part 3
Satan then goes after the remnant of her seed those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The remnant of her seed is the faithful people here when the tribulation starts. Like the ones before us who have been persecuted and killed, the fathers and prophets, and after Jesus the thousands upon thousands who have been tortured and killed in the name of Jesus, why would the last be spared when the first was not?
This starts the 3.5 years of tribulation as we see in Revelation 13, in the original text it is Satan standing on the sand of the sea to give his power, his seat, and great authority to the beast. We see in Rev. 11:7 and Rev. 17:8 that this is the bottomless pit. There are not seven years as some say we see when Satan is cast down and the beast rises, he is given only 42 months, and that is 3.5 years Revelation 13:5. It all starts when Satan is cast down the short time he has is 3.5 years.
The end of the 3.5 years will be when the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Luke 21:24Romans 11:25Revelation 11:2. Then the second coming of Jesus, Matthew 24:29-311 Thessalonians 4:16-17Revelation 1:7Revelation 3:11Revelation 19:11-16 Revelation 22:12.
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
This is what is coming, everyone will be tempted to take the mark of the beast, Jesus will give us if we are here the strength to say no even if we face death. Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. Revelation 15:2
among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth. Joh_1:14.
Jesus is not known to the princes of the world. He is the "Lord of Glory."
None of the princes of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. 1Co 2:8.
Jesus is the light of the world and a glory to the people.
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Luk_2:32
The Lord of Hosts and the King of Glory are the Father in the Old Testament and Jesus in the New Testament. He is the "Lord of Hosts" in Revelation 19:11- 20.
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors, and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of Glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. Psa 24:9- 10 (done)
Jesus Presented at the Temple
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. ( Luke 2:25-33 KJV)
With reference to the Trinity, the title "Glory" is applied to each of the persons in the Holy Trinity: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, respectively "The Father of Glory, The Lord of Glory and "The Spirit of Glory." As God will not give his glory to another, then Father, Son, and Holy Spirit together are the one God.
This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. ( Psalms 24:6-10 KJV)
The "King of Glory," who commands the armies of heaven and will eventually defeat all His enemies in this world, is none other than Jesus Christ. He is the Lord of hosts ( Revelation 19:11- 20). He is Father in the Old Testament and Son in the New Testament, thanks to the incarnation.
I am the LORD; that is my name, and my glory I will not give to another, nor my praise to graven images. ISA 42:8.
The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, Acts 7:2.
Jesus is the Lord of Glory on earth.
None of the princes of this world knew it, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. 1Cor 2:8.
As well as being the Lord of Glory on earth, Jesus is: "The glory of the Gentiles."
For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream; then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees. Isa_66:12.
Jesus is "the glory in the midst."
For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about and the glory in the midst of her. Zec_2:5.
See,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing, it's the Power. We are living in the seventh and last millennium after Adam,or seventh and last Day,the Lord's Day.As is written- Revelation 11:6&18-, more Power WILL BE GIVEN over waters,over peoples,and NATIONS,and multitudes of all tongues,understand? to turn them to BLOOD, and to smite the earth with ALL PLAGUES,as often as will. So the OPENING of the 7 seals starts,the first four seals is LITERALLY fulfilled from now on with the appearance/manifestation of 4 horseriders and what each one does and shall do, it is written in Revelation 6:1-8,take a look.One of them works for the Lord JESUS-Michael-,three of them work for the Devil,the MAN of sin,son of perdition;would be them Putin, Xi Jiping and Trump,or other?It is up to the believers to discern and identify them by the Spirit of GOD,they are already moving in the scenary.
OTOH,meanwhile,all Christian believers which were slain for the Word of GOD and testimony which they held from the 4th to the 6th Day(the last 2000 years)THEY MUST REMAIN UNDER THE ALTAR as it is showed in Revelation 6:9-11& Re.8:3-5 combined with Revelation 19:5-10,take a look.
We are in the Lord's Day, time of the Apocalypse, the TURN of the 6th to the 7th Day, the Trumpets starts TO SOUND at the opening of the 7th seal,as is written- Revelation 8:1-7.From now on there will be terrible punishments,only and only punishment, but it is the beginning of the chastisings according to the Word of GOD;6th seal is LITERALLY fulfilled even BEFORE the beginning of the 1st half, and it lasts until the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week of years.
The above described is the scenary to be seen in the first half of the last week, and the 2nd half, how will it be?
The PLAGUES will be poured in the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel.
Luke 1:2. The use of 'beginning' here is different, as Luke relates how he learned of those accounts of the Lord through those who were with Him & eyewitnesses of those events. Here it is according to Luke's receiving the information; in John's Gospel & Epistle, of eternity past. Same word - different application.
Revelation 19:13. Indeed, it is a title carried by Jesus. But the same John, who was given this revelation, also wrote that the Word of God was made flesh & dwelt among us. In John's vision, he sees the Word of God made flesh now coming in Power & Glory, His clothing dipped in Blood (whether representative of the saints martyred or of the coming slaughter of God's enemies), & the title He wears as God's Word made flesh & now coming in the same way He left. But none of this applies, when we can find no agreement whether John writes in his Gospel, of the Word (God) coming in flesh, or He Who came in flesh became God (Divine).
John 1:10. If this means that 'the world was made through & for Jesus', then we would have to make the same apply to Colossians 1:16,17 (as the same word 'dia' is used). And by doing so, the whole meaning of those verses change, especially that 'he is before all things and by him all things consist'.
Anyway, I hope I've addressed your points, but would still appreciate if anyone, a non-trinitarian, could explain John 17:5, which thus far over the years, none have obliged me. And I find that very strange. Blessings.
Thank you, not trying to offend anyone because the belief in this doctrine goes deep. I once believed in the pre-existence of Jesus. In my study, there are too many things that contradict it. Like Matthew 28:19 there is not one baptism done in Scripture, only in the name of Jesus.
John 1:1-5 The reason I understand it as the beginning of Jesus's ministry is John also repeats it in 1 John 1:1 "That was from the beginning". Luke 1:2 also begins his introduction "which from the beginning" it was the beginning of time the apostles were with Jesus. We see in Revelation 19:13 that Jesus's name is called the Word of God, my understanding this is a title it does not say Jesus is God.
Jesus was the Word of God, we see all through Scripture Jesus says it is God's word, not His. In John 1:3 If we take the beginning as Jesus's start of His ministry the beginning of the new creation came into being through Jesus.
We see in John 1:6, that John tells of John the Baptist, a man sent from God, this is also about the beginning of Jesus's ministry when Jesus was anointed the Messiah. In verse 10 it says the world was made by him the Greek word dia could read as well as the world was made through him. That I see as in the plan of God all was through and for Jesus and what He would be since God sees the end the same as the beginning.
The importance that has been placed on this doctrine 400 years after Jesus and the people who have been killed over it, and today many churches will ostracize you. I don't feel the love of God would be in that. If it is that important that it is held equal to the belief in Jesus, Jesus would have told us when He was here but He did not say a word about it.
14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the Lord shall be known toward His servants, and His indignation toward His enemies.
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with His chariots like a whirlwind, to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with flames of FIRE. --> Revelation 11:18>18 And the NATIONS were(will be) angry, and GOD'S WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
16 For by fire and by His Sword will the Lord plead with all flesh.-->( Revelation 13:3 and 14) Revelation 19:21
Matthew 24:28 - For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
A better translation would be "vultures be gathered together." This verse could not be fulfilled until the mid-1990s. There are now carnivorous birds in Israel, in order for that to be fulfilled. That will happen when Jesus comes and He defeats His enemies in the battle of Armageddon.
It's prophesied, the coming of Christ, and the prophecies of these carcasses. You can see it in Ezekiel 39:17, all of Chapter 34 of Isaiah, and as it happens in Revelation 19:17-21.
Matthew 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Just some technical information just to show you how good this passage is:
He is going to send His angels out with a great sound of a Shofar. It's a ram's horn. Now in the Greek text, the word "sound" is in brackets, which means it was added to the text by some unseen person who doesn't understand the fact that the word "great" modifies the trumpet. It is called a great Shofar.
The prophecy is in Isaiah 27:12-13. It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. So that is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for. It says He is going to gather them together, his elect (that would be the Jews), from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.
Thanks for sharing your understanding. We do disagree on this one. You mention John 3:34-35 which are very important verses. Literally, that second part of Verse 34 is that God has poured out His Spirit in its fullness upon Christ. He is all God! So, the principle is that He's the only one that has and speaks the words of God. In Colossians 2:9, Paul tells us that in Jesus is all of the Godhead in bodily form, everything there is of God and bodily form! God did not pour out His Spirit by measure but rather in His fullness. In order for me to believe that Jesus could have sinned, I would have to deny His deity. I would have to deny that He is God.
Now, in John 12:49-50 which you gave, I do agree that Jesus is saying these aren't my words. These are the Father's words. And the last half of Verse 50, Jesus says, "whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." Exact words! Not independent, not on His own, but they are the Father's words. When Jesus came, He didn't represent Himself. He represented God.
I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with you on "why Jesus's name is called the Word of God." He was not called the word of God because He spoke God's word. There is no correlation between John 3:34-35 and Revelation 19:13.
The word "word" in Revelation 19:13 is the word LOGOS. It is the same word used in John 1:1, and also throughout the beginning of Chapter 1. LOGOS is the Greek word for the word "word." Jesus is called the word because He was the great thinker behind the universe and was already in existence at the time of physical creation. He was always in existence. He was the great thinker behind the universe, and He created all things.
Yes, brother you understood correctly I believe Jesus if He chose, He could have given into a temptation and been disobedient to His Father. Hebrews 2:18 says He suffered being tempted and in Hebrews 4:15 Jesus was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Jesus did not have a sinful nature like we do, He was not from man but was conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost, He was the second man the last Adam.
The first Adam was not formed with a sinful nature, but he sinned and was disobedient, Jesus was sinless and obedient to the end, Romans 5:19. He had to know how it feels to battle temptations to become our priest and mediator. If Jesus was incapable of giving in to temptation His perfect sinless life has no meaning and if He was not capable of being disobedient being obedient to the Father unto death has no meaning.
The miracles Jesus did were not by His power but by the power of the Holy Ghost that God the Father gave to Him without measure John 3:34-35Acts 10:38 Jesus said many times it was not His will but the Father's will who sent Him, and He also said the words He spoke were not His but the Father, John12:49-50 That is why Jesus's name is called the Word of God, Revelation 19:13.
Now after God raised Jesus from death, He is at His Father's right hand on the throne of God and has been given power of the throne over all until the last enemy, death is under His feet, Ephesians 1:19-23Revelation 20:14.
I know you may disagree but that is how I understand it.
18Then answered the Jews and said unto him,What sign shew you unto us,seeing that you does these things?
19Jesus answered:Destroy this temple,in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews,Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt you rear it up in THREE days?
21But He spake of the temple of His body(both physic an spiritual body-the Church, even now in His return in this 3rd DAY,as prophesied Hosea 6:2-3:
2After two days will He revive us:in the THIRD DAY He will raise us up,and we shall live in His sight.
3Then shall we know,if we follow on to know the Lord:his going forth is prepared as the morning;and He shall come unto us as the rain,as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
Exodus 19:9-11-the WONDERFUL EVENT OF THE CLOUD-the same will occur soon in JESUS's coming.
9And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo,I come unto thee in a thick CLOUD that the people may hear when I speak with thee,and believe thee for ever.And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.
10And the Lord said unto Moses,Go unto the people,and sanctify them to DAY and to MORROW, and let them WASH their clothes,
11And be READY against the THIRD DAY:for the THIRD DAY the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
Revelation 19:5-9
5And a voice came out of the throne,saying,Praise our GOD,all ye His servants,and ye that fear him,both small and great.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,and as the voice of many waters,and as the voice of mighty thunderings,saying, Alleluia:for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigns.
7Let us be glad and rejoice,and give honour to Him:for the marriage of the Lamb is come,and His wife has made herself READY.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white:for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he says unto me,Write,Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.And he says unto me,These are the true sayings of GOD
The word for "angel" apparently means messenger or Pastor in Revelation 1:20; and OR it refers to an angel over a church. I tend to defer to the idea that it means both; as clearly the Spirit leaves a church where the "candlestick" is removed. That would mean whatever other angels of God were hanging out for whatever purposes ministering wouldn't be likely to stick around either except perhaps for a few individuals who hold to the faith. This gives us concern; of course with a good Pastor being removed or a bad one remaining. Oftentimes it seems a leader is good then turns rogue; particularly today.
Revelation 19:10 states At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus."
Revelation 22:9 But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!"
These verses along with others in the Old Testament show that angels of the Lord don't wish to be worshipped. All glory goes to God. They will normally appear as men; hence the saying in Hebrews 13:2 on entertaining angels unaware.
Although not redeemed as man is; those angels that remained true also are about the Father's business as Jesus was and all of us are supposed to be doing. They are no doubt awesome and greater than us; but are fighting battles on our behalf in heavenly places. We see this principal in Daniel 10:13-21 with the Prince of Persia being held back for 21 days. This intersects and corresponds with the time Daniel had been praying and fasting. It shows how the great men of God would have important top ranking angels involved in these conflicts.
2 Samuel 23:1 Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse SAID, and the man who was raised up on high SAID, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, SAID,
2 Samuel 23:1 The Spirit on the LORD (Christ the Spirit of prophecy) SPAKE BY ME, and HIS WORDS were in my tongue.
Revelation 19:19 .... for the words of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy .......
All the words in the bible are the words of CHRIST.
All the Psalms are the WORDS of Christ, not David, all the words in the Psalms are prophecies of the kingdom of God.
Man's teachings have destroyed TRUTH.
God Bless You as TRUTH and LIGHT destroys DARKNESS, the works of Satan.
Around 2000 years ago or much probably 67AD was written the book of Hebrews. Hebrews 6:1-3 say:
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward GOD,
2 Of the doctrine of BAPTISMS, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal Judgment.
3 And this will we do, if GOD permit.
Hebrews 5:12-14
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of GOD; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the Word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Around 2000 years ago or much probably 60/65AD was written the book of Matthew. JESUS said: Matthew 24:14 and 32-35
14 - This Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in ALL THE WORLD for a witness unto ALL NATIONS; and then shall the END
come. (The TESTIMONY OF OUR LORD JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, UNDERSTAND? Revelation 19:10)
32 Now LEARN a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, KNOW THAT IT IS NEAR, even AT THE DOORS.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
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Philippians 3:20-21
20 For our conversation is in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall CHANGE our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
11And be ready against the third day:for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people,and sanctified the people;and they washed their clothes.
15And he said unto the people,Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.
16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning,that there were thunders and lightnings,and a thick cloud upon the mount,and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD;and they stood at the nether part of the mount.
18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.
20And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
John 2:18-20
18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Hebrews 1:1-2
1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days (last two Days or last 2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
The third Day arrived, the clothes must be washed,the Lord shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven),the dead in Christ shall rise first- 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 19:7-8.
Matthew 25:6-Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him.
Amen, brother, God's plan; for salvation to go to the Gentile's branches had to be broken off to make a way for us to be grafted in, Romans 11:11-33, this may be one of the reasons Jesus spoke in parables. The time may be near but once the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled, Israel will be grafted back in. God's plan is not complete until Israel is also grafted back into the people of God to share in the promises to Abraham. Whenever the Gentile's time is fulfilled, we see what comes next Revelation 19:11-21 they welcome and accept their King and the two sticks become one again and the Kingdom set up.
As you know, the kings of Israel chosen by GOD they were anointed with oil by the prophets of the Lord.
To be anointed with oil is to be separated as GOD's chosen one- Matthew 25:31-34. Take a look. The true chosen ones of the Lord are prudent and wise, they have lamp to shine as they walk in the world of darkness, and enough oil to keep the lamp burning to meet the Lord, the bridegroom, and be saved. By the way, He said: Revelation 3:11-13:
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no one take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my GOD, and the name of the city of my GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Att all times, let your garments be white, and let oil not be wanting on your head - Ecclesiastes 9:8.
Revelation 19:5-8:
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Regarding mystery of GOD, I have already commented in prior posts, our Lord JESUS-the Word made flesh- spoke of this in Matthew 11:27, and according His promise, unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance. Hallelujah!.
May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
My post yesterday discussed Christ as firstfruits; specifically that raised from the dead. HIs uniqueness includes the following:
Being God in the flesh. This makes Him superior to all of His creation whether man or angels. Yet He had to be made a little lower than the angels to live vicariously that is in our place yet suffer all things as we do without sin. Hebrews enlightens us on this subject in many places and I would suggest studying the entire book as I did a few years back with a small group.
Besides His sinless life; we have His death and resurrection; which demonstrated His victory over the grave and sin and His atonement for God's chosen sons and daughters.
He has a name only He knows .( Revelation 19:12)
He has been given all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18)
He has the keys to the gates of hell ( Revelation 1:18)
He will rule forever ( Isaiah 9:7; Luke 1:33)
One aspect that is sometimes glossed over is that God can be jealous; and for HIs own Name's sake and also desire worship and be sinless. This is something that for any created being; man or angel that leads to destruction. This is why any image man creates of his conception of God is so dangerous and warned against in verses such as Exodus 20:4. That verse doesn't specifically mention God but it states anything in heaven above or earth below thus the Godhead would also be included. God can't be seen by human eyes ( John 1:18). Christ is by far the most represented in paintings and sculpture of the members of the Godhead; but with man's idolatrous heart he is led to worship these images much as he does with Mary and the "saints" whether real or imaginary ones in terms of their earthly ministry. The image of the cross is only beneficial as an offense and a curse; and is only beneficial to remind us of Christ's sufferings but also we need to look beyond that to His Resurrection and current ministry ( Heb. 7:25).
That's a good question. I have heard many different speculations. Recently, during COVID, many people felt that getting vaccines was connected with the mark of the beast. I did some research on verse 18 for the number 666 and this is what I found.
1. Biblical numbers have meaning. So the number 7 is "good" and represent completion. 6 is less than 7, so it represents imperfection. The 6 is tripled "666" so the mark of the beast is gross imperfection. Basically, it symbolizes an organization ( maybe an entity) that represents man's fall from God's glory.
2. The beats is in opposition to God and Jesus. Those that support organizations, thoughts, and ideas that oppose God and his word would have the "mark" of the beast. ( Revelation 19:19-21) So what I understood, is that the mark is not a literal mark, but a symbolic mark. Afterall, I don't believe I have ever seen anyone with a divine "666" mark placed on them.
Good Question. I hope I added something to the discussion.
Thanks again, I feel I am among the minority on this and I am grateful that people on this site are willing to discuss it. As I said to Chris "in the beginning" what John is referring to makes a big difference in understanding. If it is the Genesis creation or if it is the beginning of Jesus's ministry when He was anointed with the Holy Spirit. I agree with you the Spirit of God the Holy Spirit is eternal. God is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit and has always been.
If we look at 1 John 1:1 this is clearly the beginning of Jesus ministry, John says they have heard, they have seen with their eyes, they saw and touch Him with their hands, this is clearly not the Genesis creation beginning but Jesus's ministry. To me 1 John 1:1 does not show a trinity.
The word of God that is applied to Jesus is only once in the Bible and it was in Revelation 19:3 it was his name was called; Jesus was the word of God in the flesh God was manifested in Jesus but that does not mean Jesus preexisted His birth. I am still praying and studying for the truth, I to once believed Jesus preexisted but to many Scriptures do not agree.
Like Revelation 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Why are they two different things here?
I started my post quoting Esther 5:1 and making some important highlights, and I wrote: "1Now it came to pass on the third day(see John 2:19),that Esther put on her royal apparel(see Revelation19:7-8)and stood in the inner court of the king's house over against the king's house(ref. Revelation 11:2),and the king sat upon his royal throne in the royal house,over against the gate of the house.
The main point of my post is the comparison with the true Church of the Lord JESUS-the body of JESUS Christ- the current Temple of GOD in this current Covenant, so, we must discern that we are in the beginning of the first century of the 3rd Day (2024 AD), that is in the turn exactly from the sixth to the seventh and last GOD's Day.
Well, JESUS promised to rise up the Temple in the 3rd Day-the Temple of GOD-the Church of the Lord- John 2:19. And exactly from now on, from this same wonderful moment, "let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife must made herself ready". Revelation 19:8 says propheticaly: And to her -to the Church of the Lord- His body- was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. The Word is GOD, self-executing, understand?
Furthermore, JESUS is already sat on His Throne, as it is described in Revelation chapters 4 and 5, and GOD the Father is already in His rest as He planned to do since the beginning, it in the exactly and current seventh Day. And he sais: Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. These are the true sayings of GOD.
The Word is GOD, self-executing
Be careful and get ready - Matthew 25:6-12 will LTERALLY fulfill itself.
Thanks for the clarification. If we already discussed this months or years ago I just don't remember, so thank you for explaining. I have a better idea of what you meant now. I'm glad you're a Christian.
My comment didn't have much to do with baptism but your comment did and it seems you were making a distinction between Matthew 28:19 and examples in the Bible where people were baptized. I would have to review to know what if anything was mentioned as being said.
I don't believe people have to believe in a Godhead to be saved. I think you were thinking that was a requirement. I don't believe this is a salvation issue, but just trying to understand the Bible and arrive at the truth. I believe that is the goal here.
You wrote: "Now in many churches, a person must believe in the Trinity for salvation, and if they do not confess the Trinity, they are not a Christian."
In the last 50 years or more I've attended many different Christian church denominations and I've never once heard of anyone saying you must believe in a trinity to be saved. Are you sure that is what someone said? This not what typical Christians believe. Can you give an example of what specific Christian church denomination and location or if it was just one person who said this?
I once went to a Calvary Chapel where the guy gave a sermon that said if you don't vote for Obama then you're not a Christian. But I knew enough to know that guy was wacko and his cult beliefs did not represent others in the calvary chapel or in Christianity. It's a common logical fallacy to generalize an entire group of people for one individuals actions or beliefs. What's ironic is Obama is a muslim and pro-abortion, which is a very anti-Christian belief.
But as for not believing Jesus is God. If John 1:1 said and the Word was NOT God, then I would find this belief more credible, but it says the opposite. Jesus is the Word: Revelation 19:13. He's also the I AM: John 8:58, Exodus 3:14.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye his servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth. (combined with Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look).
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the TESTIMONY of JESUS: worship GOD: for the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.
Wake up and get up quickly
Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath-Mat.25:29. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, self-executing, self-executable. Remember: around 2000 years ago the Word was made flesh, see what He said: John 5:17.
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living GOD: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. (These sealed 144K of each tribe of Israel are the remnant saved of the condemnation and eternal perdition- Luke 3:7 combined with 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12, among countless other biblical references).
On the other hand:
-verses 9-12 combined with Revelation 19:6-10
9 I beheld, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our GOD which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped GOD,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and Glory, and Wisdom, and Thanksgiving, and Honour, and Power, and Might, be unto our GOD for ever and ever. Amen.
Momsage, the question is:
Who are the great multitude, which no man can number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stand before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands? And they cry with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our GOD which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
According to GOD's Word,what needs to happen first?Exactly what is written in Revelation 18:1-5,i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore.
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,having great power;and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried(will cry)mightily with a strong voice,saying,Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen, ...
Then, just after the fall of Babylon as above quoted, the marriage of the Lamb will be celebrated, yes, the marriage of the Lamb comes and the wife of the Lamb makes herself ready, yeah, the Bride makes herself ready for this wonderful event, Hallelujah! And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Revelation 19:1-10
1 And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and Glory, and Honour, and Power, unto the Lord our GOD:
2 For true and righteous are His Judgments: for He hath Judged the Great Whore(AS ABOVE DESCRIBED), which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. ( Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY on Psalms 4 - 1 year ago
Psalm 4:5
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5Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in theLord.
I believe that Christ offered himself for a sacrifice for burnt offerings, and peace offerings .
Revelation 19:6
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Hey catman, I agree. Especially when so many "theologians" here seem to know so much. They write pages and pages of theological "dissertations" designed to enlighten us. One of my favorite verses, by the way, is.. Revelation 19:10.. the last part of the verse... "for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy"... just saying.
Hi Inajermyn. Are you referring to Hosea 2:16,17 & also to Revelation 19:7-9? If so, we're not told in the Revelation whether the LORD God is referred to by a special Name (e.g. Ishi = Husband). We do know that ever since Jesus, God's Son, came to Earth to secure our redemption through His Blood, the LORD has always been referred to as Abba = Father, amongst those in that new relationship to Him (of Jew & Gentile).
God was once considered by Israel as 'Baali' (Owner), though the LORD longed that Israel would turn away from idolatry & turn back to Him, their Husband (Ishi). How that relationship with Israel pans out post-Cross is difficult to say, for the Scriptures are clear that only those who 'call upon the Lord (Jesus) will be saved' ( Romans 10:13) - and these people are those who call the LORD, their Heavenly Father, even as He is the Father of Jesus Christ, and we in Him, His Body, the Church.
The sword of the Lord in the Bible is a symbolic representation of God's Word and the final battle against evil
The sword is a symbol of power, protection, authority, strength, and courage. The idea of the sword of the Spirit is that the Bible is a weapon to defend against evil and to demolish strongholds of error and falsehood.
Revelation 19:15
Describes the returning King of kings and Lord of lords using the sword of the Lord to "strike down the nations"
Acts 4:12
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
King James Version (KJV)
COME LORD JESUS
Part 1
Revelation 12:1-5 A wonder in heaven a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. Genesis 37:9-10 With Joseph is the 12 stars, the Sun, the moon, Jacob, and the mother represent Israel, the same woman all through this chapter to verse 17.
This is before the birth of the man-child, we see this woman represents Israel and the righteousness of the ancient fathers and prophets who labored through the years, and persecutions, as they groaned and longed for the promised Messiah, the promised seed of Abraham. The righteous physical Israel longing in pain for their coming Messiah represents the Woman in birth pain, Isaiah 26:17-19 Micah 4:9-10.
Another wonder in heaven is the red dragon/Satan who cast a third of the stars/angels to the earth this will happen in the future. The dragon stood before the woman to devour the child. Satan through Herod and the Roman empire tried to kill Jesus as soon as He was born, Matthew 2:13-16. Israel birthed the Messiah/Jesus through the tribe of Judah who will rule the nations with a rod of iron Revelation 2:27 Revelation 19:15.
After Jesus's resurrection, He was caught up to God and his throne, Ephesians 1:20-21. Verse 6 is what the woman will do after Satan and his angels are cast down to this earth, for 1260 days we see the same event in verse 14 a time and times and half a time, this is 3.5 years to be in the future. God will preserve a remnant and give a place of special divine protection for His people during these 3.5 years,
See part 2
Part 3
Satan then goes after the remnant of her seed those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The remnant of her seed is the faithful people here when the tribulation starts. Like the ones before us who have been persecuted and killed, the fathers and prophets, and after Jesus the thousands upon thousands who have been tortured and killed in the name of Jesus, why would the last be spared when the first was not?
This starts the 3.5 years of tribulation as we see in Revelation 13, in the original text it is Satan standing on the sand of the sea to give his power, his seat, and great authority to the beast. We see in Rev. 11:7 and Rev. 17:8 that this is the bottomless pit. There are not seven years as some say we see when Satan is cast down and the beast rises, he is given only 42 months, and that is 3.5 years Revelation 13:5. It all starts when Satan is cast down the short time he has is 3.5 years.
The end of the 3.5 years will be when the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Luke 21:24 Romans 11:25 Revelation 11:2. Then the second coming of Jesus, Matthew 24:29-31 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Revelation 1:7 Revelation 3:11 Revelation 19:11-16 Revelation 22:12.
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
This is what is coming, everyone will be tempted to take the mark of the beast, Jesus will give us if we are here the strength to say no even if we face death. Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. Revelation 15:2
God bless,
RLW
among us (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth. Joh_1:14.
Jesus is not known to the princes of the world. He is the "Lord of Glory."
None of the princes of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. 1Co 2:8.
Jesus is the light of the world and a glory to the people.
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Luk_2:32
The Lord of Hosts and the King of Glory are the Father in the Old Testament and Jesus in the New Testament. He is the "Lord of Hosts" in Revelation 19:11- 20.
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors, and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of Glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. Psa 24:9- 10 (done)
Jesus Presented at the Temple
And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. ( Luke 2:25-33 KJV)
With reference to the Trinity, the title "Glory" is applied to each of the persons in the Holy Trinity: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, respectively "The Father of Glory, The Lord of Glory and "The Spirit of Glory." As God will not give his glory to another, then Father, Son, and Holy Spirit together are the one God.
This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah. ( Psalms 24:6-10 KJV)
The "King of Glory," who commands the armies of heaven and will eventually defeat all His enemies in this world, is none other than Jesus Christ. He is the Lord of hosts ( Revelation 19:11- 20). He is Father in the Old Testament and Son in the New Testament, thanks to the incarnation.
I am the LORD; that is my name, and my glory I will not give to another, nor my praise to graven images. ISA 42:8.
The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran, Acts 7:2.
Jesus is the Lord of Glory on earth.
None of the princes of this world knew it, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory. 1Cor 2:8.
As well as being the Lord of Glory on earth, Jesus is: "The glory of the Gentiles."
For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream; then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees. Isa_66:12.
Jesus is "the glory in the midst."
For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about and the glory in the midst of her. Zec_2:5.
And the Word was made flesh and dwelt am
OTOH,meanwhile,all Christian believers which were slain for the Word of GOD and testimony which they held from the 4th to the 6th Day(the last 2000 years)THEY MUST REMAIN UNDER THE ALTAR as it is showed in Revelation 6:9-11& Re.8:3-5 combined with Revelation 19:5-10,take a look.
We are in the Lord's Day, time of the Apocalypse, the TURN of the 6th to the 7th Day, the Trumpets starts TO SOUND at the opening of the 7th seal,as is written- Revelation 8:1-7.From now on there will be terrible punishments,only and only punishment, but it is the beginning of the chastisings according to the Word of GOD;6th seal is LITERALLY fulfilled even BEFORE the beginning of the 1st half, and it lasts until the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week of years.
The above described is the scenary to be seen in the first half of the last week, and the 2nd half, how will it be?
The PLAGUES will be poured in the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel.
continues in next post
Luke 1:2. The use of 'beginning' here is different, as Luke relates how he learned of those accounts of the Lord through those who were with Him & eyewitnesses of those events. Here it is according to Luke's receiving the information; in John's Gospel & Epistle, of eternity past. Same word - different application.
Revelation 19:13. Indeed, it is a title carried by Jesus. But the same John, who was given this revelation, also wrote that the Word of God was made flesh & dwelt among us. In John's vision, he sees the Word of God made flesh now coming in Power & Glory, His clothing dipped in Blood (whether representative of the saints martyred or of the coming slaughter of God's enemies), & the title He wears as God's Word made flesh & now coming in the same way He left. But none of this applies, when we can find no agreement whether John writes in his Gospel, of the Word (God) coming in flesh, or He Who came in flesh became God (Divine).
John 1:10. If this means that 'the world was made through & for Jesus', then we would have to make the same apply to Colossians 1:16,17 (as the same word 'dia' is used). And by doing so, the whole meaning of those verses change, especially that 'he is before all things and by him all things consist'.
Anyway, I hope I've addressed your points, but would still appreciate if anyone, a non-trinitarian, could explain John 17:5, which thus far over the years, none have obliged me. And I find that very strange. Blessings.
Thank you, not trying to offend anyone because the belief in this doctrine goes deep. I once believed in the pre-existence of Jesus. In my study, there are too many things that contradict it. Like Matthew 28:19 there is not one baptism done in Scripture, only in the name of Jesus.
John 1:1-5 The reason I understand it as the beginning of Jesus's ministry is John also repeats it in 1 John 1:1 "That was from the beginning". Luke 1:2 also begins his introduction "which from the beginning" it was the beginning of time the apostles were with Jesus. We see in Revelation 19:13 that Jesus's name is called the Word of God, my understanding this is a title it does not say Jesus is God.
Jesus was the Word of God, we see all through Scripture Jesus says it is God's word, not His. In John 1:3 If we take the beginning as Jesus's start of His ministry the beginning of the new creation came into being through Jesus.
We see in John 1:6, that John tells of John the Baptist, a man sent from God, this is also about the beginning of Jesus's ministry when Jesus was anointed the Messiah. In verse 10 it says the world was made by him the Greek word dia could read as well as the world was made through him. That I see as in the plan of God all was through and for Jesus and what He would be since God sees the end the same as the beginning.
The importance that has been placed on this doctrine 400 years after Jesus and the people who have been killed over it, and today many churches will ostracize you. I don't feel the love of God would be in that. If it is that important that it is held equal to the belief in Jesus, Jesus would have told us when He was here but He did not say a word about it.
Thanks again brother, I know we do not agree.
God bless,
RLW
14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the Lord shall be known toward His servants, and His indignation toward His enemies.
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with His chariots like a whirlwind, to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with flames of FIRE. --> Revelation 11:18>18 And the NATIONS were(will be) angry, and GOD'S WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
16 For by fire and by His Sword will the Lord plead with all flesh.-->( Revelation 13:3 and 14) Revelation 19:21
Matthew 24:28 - For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
A better translation would be "vultures be gathered together." This verse could not be fulfilled until the mid-1990s. There are now carnivorous birds in Israel, in order for that to be fulfilled. That will happen when Jesus comes and He defeats His enemies in the battle of Armageddon.
It's prophesied, the coming of Christ, and the prophecies of these carcasses. You can see it in Ezekiel 39:17, all of Chapter 34 of Isaiah, and as it happens in Revelation 19:17-21.
Matthew 24:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Just some technical information just to show you how good this passage is:
He is going to send His angels out with a great sound of a Shofar. It's a ram's horn. Now in the Greek text, the word "sound" is in brackets, which means it was added to the text by some unseen person who doesn't understand the fact that the word "great" modifies the trumpet. It is called a great Shofar.
The prophecy is in Isaiah 27:12-13. It says the great Shofar will blow, and the Lord will gather His people from the four corners of the earth. So that is very important because that's a prophecy that the Jews looked for. It says He is going to gather them together, his elect (that would be the Jews), from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, north, south, east, and west.
Thanks for sharing your understanding. We do disagree on this one. You mention John 3:34-35 which are very important verses. Literally, that second part of Verse 34 is that God has poured out His Spirit in its fullness upon Christ. He is all God! So, the principle is that He's the only one that has and speaks the words of God. In Colossians 2:9, Paul tells us that in Jesus is all of the Godhead in bodily form, everything there is of God and bodily form! God did not pour out His Spirit by measure but rather in His fullness. In order for me to believe that Jesus could have sinned, I would have to deny His deity. I would have to deny that He is God.
Now, in John 12:49-50 which you gave, I do agree that Jesus is saying these aren't my words. These are the Father's words. And the last half of Verse 50, Jesus says, "whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." Exact words! Not independent, not on His own, but they are the Father's words. When Jesus came, He didn't represent Himself. He represented God.
I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with you on "why Jesus's name is called the Word of God." He was not called the word of God because He spoke God's word. There is no correlation between John 3:34-35 and Revelation 19:13.
The word "word" in Revelation 19:13 is the word LOGOS. It is the same word used in John 1:1, and also throughout the beginning of Chapter 1. LOGOS is the Greek word for the word "word." Jesus is called the word because He was the great thinker behind the universe and was already in existence at the time of physical creation. He was always in existence. He was the great thinker behind the universe, and He created all things.
Blessings!
Yes, brother you understood correctly I believe Jesus if He chose, He could have given into a temptation and been disobedient to His Father. Hebrews 2:18 says He suffered being tempted and in Hebrews 4:15 Jesus was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Jesus did not have a sinful nature like we do, He was not from man but was conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost, He was the second man the last Adam.
The first Adam was not formed with a sinful nature, but he sinned and was disobedient, Jesus was sinless and obedient to the end, Romans 5:19. He had to know how it feels to battle temptations to become our priest and mediator. If Jesus was incapable of giving in to temptation His perfect sinless life has no meaning and if He was not capable of being disobedient being obedient to the Father unto death has no meaning.
The miracles Jesus did were not by His power but by the power of the Holy Ghost that God the Father gave to Him without measure John 3:34-35 Acts 10:38 Jesus said many times it was not His will but the Father's will who sent Him, and He also said the words He spoke were not His but the Father, John12:49-50 That is why Jesus's name is called the Word of God, Revelation 19:13.
Now after God raised Jesus from death, He is at His Father's right hand on the throne of God and has been given power of the throne over all until the last enemy, death is under His feet, Ephesians 1:19-23 Revelation 20:14.
I know you may disagree but that is how I understand it.
God bless,
RLW
18Then answered the Jews and said unto him,What sign shew you unto us,seeing that you does these things?
19Jesus answered:Destroy this temple,in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews,Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt you rear it up in THREE days?
21But He spake of the temple of His body(both physic an spiritual body-the Church, even now in His return in this 3rd DAY,as prophesied Hosea 6:2-3:
2After two days will He revive us:in the THIRD DAY He will raise us up,and we shall live in His sight.
3Then shall we know,if we follow on to know the Lord:his going forth is prepared as the morning;and He shall come unto us as the rain,as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
Exodus 19:9-11-the WONDERFUL EVENT OF THE CLOUD-the same will occur soon in JESUS's coming.
9And the Lord said unto Moses, Lo,I come unto thee in a thick CLOUD that the people may hear when I speak with thee,and believe thee for ever.And Moses told the words of the people unto the Lord.
10And the Lord said unto Moses,Go unto the people,and sanctify them to DAY and to MORROW, and let them WASH their clothes,
11And be READY against the THIRD DAY:for the THIRD DAY the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
Revelation 19:5-9
5And a voice came out of the throne,saying,Praise our GOD,all ye His servants,and ye that fear him,both small and great.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,and as the voice of many waters,and as the voice of mighty thunderings,saying, Alleluia:for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigns.
7Let us be glad and rejoice,and give honour to Him:for the marriage of the Lamb is come,and His wife has made herself READY.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white:for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9And he says unto me,Write,Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.And he says unto me,These are the true sayings of GOD
The word for "angel" apparently means messenger or Pastor in Revelation 1:20; and OR it refers to an angel over a church. I tend to defer to the idea that it means both; as clearly the Spirit leaves a church where the "candlestick" is removed. That would mean whatever other angels of God were hanging out for whatever purposes ministering wouldn't be likely to stick around either except perhaps for a few individuals who hold to the faith. This gives us concern; of course with a good Pastor being removed or a bad one remaining. Oftentimes it seems a leader is good then turns rogue; particularly today.
Revelation 19:10 states At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus."
Revelation 22:9 But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!"
These verses along with others in the Old Testament show that angels of the Lord don't wish to be worshipped. All glory goes to God. They will normally appear as men; hence the saying in Hebrews 13:2 on entertaining angels unaware.
Although not redeemed as man is; those angels that remained true also are about the Father's business as Jesus was and all of us are supposed to be doing. They are no doubt awesome and greater than us; but are fighting battles on our behalf in heavenly places. We see this principal in Daniel 10:13-21 with the Prince of Persia being held back for 21 days. This intersects and corresponds with the time Daniel had been praying and fasting. It shows how the great men of God would have important top ranking angels involved in these conflicts.
2 Samuel 23:1 The Spirit on the LORD (Christ the Spirit of prophecy) SPAKE BY ME, and HIS WORDS were in my tongue.
Revelation 19:19 .... for the words of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy .......
All the words in the bible are the words of CHRIST.
All the Psalms are the WORDS of Christ, not David, all the words in the Psalms are prophecies of the kingdom of God.
Man's teachings have destroyed TRUTH.
God Bless You as TRUTH and LIGHT destroys DARKNESS, the works of Satan.
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward GOD,
2 Of the doctrine of BAPTISMS, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal Judgment.
3 And this will we do, if GOD permit.
Hebrews 5:12-14
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of GOD; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the Word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Around 2000 years ago or much probably 60/65AD was written the book of Matthew. JESUS said: Matthew 24:14 and 32-35
14 - This Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in ALL THE WORLD for a witness unto ALL NATIONS; and then shall the END
come. (The TESTIMONY OF OUR LORD JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY, UNDERSTAND? Revelation 19:10)
32 Now LEARN a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, KNOW THAT IT IS NEAR, even AT THE DOORS.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
GET READY
Philippians 3:20-21
20 For our conversation is in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall CHANGE our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.
The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing
11And be ready against the third day:for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people,and sanctified the people;and they washed their clothes.
15And he said unto the people,Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.
16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning,that there were thunders and lightnings,and a thick cloud upon the mount,and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD;and they stood at the nether part of the mount.
18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.
19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.
20And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
John 2:18-20
18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Hebrews 1:1-2
1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days (last two Days or last 2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;
The third Day arrived, the clothes must be washed,the Lord shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven),the dead in Christ shall rise first- 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 19:7-8.
Matthew 25:6-Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him.
Amen, brother, God's plan; for salvation to go to the Gentile's branches had to be broken off to make a way for us to be grafted in, Romans 11:11-33, this may be one of the reasons Jesus spoke in parables. The time may be near but once the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled, Israel will be grafted back in. God's plan is not complete until Israel is also grafted back into the people of God to share in the promises to Abraham. Whenever the Gentile's time is fulfilled, we see what comes next Revelation 19:11-21 they welcome and accept their King and the two sticks become one again and the Kingdom set up.
God bless,
RLW
I exceedingly appreciated your reply
As you know, the kings of Israel chosen by GOD they were anointed with oil by the prophets of the Lord.
To be anointed with oil is to be separated as GOD's chosen one- Matthew 25:31-34. Take a look. The true chosen ones of the Lord are prudent and wise, they have lamp to shine as they walk in the world of darkness, and enough oil to keep the lamp burning to meet the Lord, the bridegroom, and be saved. By the way, He said: Revelation 3:11-13:
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no one take thy crown.
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my GOD, and the name of the city of my GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Att all times, let your garments be white, and let oil not be wanting on your head - Ecclesiastes 9:8.
Revelation 19:5-8:
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Regarding mystery of GOD, I have already commented in prior posts, our Lord JESUS-the Word made flesh- spoke of this in Matthew 11:27, and according His promise, unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance. Hallelujah!.
May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
My post yesterday discussed Christ as firstfruits; specifically that raised from the dead. HIs uniqueness includes the following:
Being God in the flesh. This makes Him superior to all of His creation whether man or angels. Yet He had to be made a little lower than the angels to live vicariously that is in our place yet suffer all things as we do without sin. Hebrews enlightens us on this subject in many places and I would suggest studying the entire book as I did a few years back with a small group.
Besides His sinless life; we have His death and resurrection; which demonstrated His victory over the grave and sin and His atonement for God's chosen sons and daughters.
He has a name only He knows .( Revelation 19:12)
He has been given all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18)
He has the keys to the gates of hell ( Revelation 1:18)
He will rule forever ( Isaiah 9:7; Luke 1:33)
One aspect that is sometimes glossed over is that God can be jealous; and for HIs own Name's sake and also desire worship and be sinless. This is something that for any created being; man or angel that leads to destruction. This is why any image man creates of his conception of God is so dangerous and warned against in verses such as Exodus 20:4. That verse doesn't specifically mention God but it states anything in heaven above or earth below thus the Godhead would also be included. God can't be seen by human eyes ( John 1:18). Christ is by far the most represented in paintings and sculpture of the members of the Godhead; but with man's idolatrous heart he is led to worship these images much as he does with Mary and the "saints" whether real or imaginary ones in terms of their earthly ministry. The image of the cross is only beneficial as an offense and a curse; and is only beneficial to remind us of Christ's sufferings but also we need to look beyond that to His Resurrection and current ministry ( Heb. 7:25).
1. Biblical numbers have meaning. So the number 7 is "good" and represent completion. 6 is less than 7, so it represents imperfection. The 6 is tripled "666" so the mark of the beast is gross imperfection. Basically, it symbolizes an organization ( maybe an entity) that represents man's fall from God's glory.
2. The beats is in opposition to God and Jesus. Those that support organizations, thoughts, and ideas that oppose God and his word would have the "mark" of the beast. ( Revelation 19:19-21) So what I understood, is that the mark is not a literal mark, but a symbolic mark. Afterall, I don't believe I have ever seen anyone with a divine "666" mark placed on them.
Good Question. I hope I added something to the discussion.
Thanks again, I feel I am among the minority on this and I am grateful that people on this site are willing to discuss it. As I said to Chris "in the beginning" what John is referring to makes a big difference in understanding. If it is the Genesis creation or if it is the beginning of Jesus's ministry when He was anointed with the Holy Spirit. I agree with you the Spirit of God the Holy Spirit is eternal. God is Spirit and the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit and has always been.
If we look at 1 John 1:1 this is clearly the beginning of Jesus ministry, John says they have heard, they have seen with their eyes, they saw and touch Him with their hands, this is clearly not the Genesis creation beginning but Jesus's ministry. To me 1 John 1:1 does not show a trinity.
The word of God that is applied to Jesus is only once in the Bible and it was in Revelation 19:3 it was his name was called; Jesus was the word of God in the flesh God was manifested in Jesus but that does not mean Jesus preexisted His birth. I am still praying and studying for the truth, I to once believed Jesus preexisted but to many Scriptures do not agree.
Like Revelation 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Why are they two different things here?
Thanks again.
God bless,
RLW
Thank you for your reply.
I started my post quoting Esther 5:1 and making some important highlights, and I wrote: "1Now it came to pass on the third day(see John 2:19),that Esther put on her royal apparel(see Revelation19:7-8)and stood in the inner court of the king's house over against the king's house(ref. Revelation 11:2),and the king sat upon his royal throne in the royal house,over against the gate of the house.
The main point of my post is the comparison with the true Church of the Lord JESUS-the body of JESUS Christ- the current Temple of GOD in this current Covenant, so, we must discern that we are in the beginning of the first century of the 3rd Day (2024 AD), that is in the turn exactly from the sixth to the seventh and last GOD's Day.
Well, JESUS promised to rise up the Temple in the 3rd Day-the Temple of GOD-the Church of the Lord- John 2:19. And exactly from now on, from this same wonderful moment, "let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife must made herself ready". Revelation 19:8 says propheticaly: And to her -to the Church of the Lord- His body- was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. The Word is GOD, self-executing, understand?
Furthermore, JESUS is already sat on His Throne, as it is described in Revelation chapters 4 and 5, and GOD the Father is already in His rest as He planned to do since the beginning, it in the exactly and current seventh Day. And he sais: Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. These are the true sayings of GOD.
The Word is GOD, self-executing
Be careful and get ready - Matthew 25:6-12 will LTERALLY fulfill itself.
Thanks for the clarification. If we already discussed this months or years ago I just don't remember, so thank you for explaining. I have a better idea of what you meant now. I'm glad you're a Christian.
My comment didn't have much to do with baptism but your comment did and it seems you were making a distinction between Matthew 28:19 and examples in the Bible where people were baptized. I would have to review to know what if anything was mentioned as being said.
I don't believe people have to believe in a Godhead to be saved. I think you were thinking that was a requirement. I don't believe this is a salvation issue, but just trying to understand the Bible and arrive at the truth. I believe that is the goal here.
You wrote: "Now in many churches, a person must believe in the Trinity for salvation, and if they do not confess the Trinity, they are not a Christian."
In the last 50 years or more I've attended many different Christian church denominations and I've never once heard of anyone saying you must believe in a trinity to be saved. Are you sure that is what someone said? This not what typical Christians believe. Can you give an example of what specific Christian church denomination and location or if it was just one person who said this?
I once went to a Calvary Chapel where the guy gave a sermon that said if you don't vote for Obama then you're not a Christian. But I knew enough to know that guy was wacko and his cult beliefs did not represent others in the calvary chapel or in Christianity. It's a common logical fallacy to generalize an entire group of people for one individuals actions or beliefs. What's ironic is Obama is a muslim and pro-abortion, which is a very anti-Christian belief.
But as for not believing Jesus is God. If John 1:1 said and the Word was NOT God, then I would find this belief more credible, but it says the opposite. Jesus is the Word: Revelation 19:13. He's also the I AM: John 8:58, Exodus 3:14.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye his servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth. (combined with Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look).
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the TESTIMONY of JESUS: worship GOD: for the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.
Wake up and get up quickly
Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath-Mat.25:29. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, self-executing, self-executable. Remember: around 2000 years ago the Word was made flesh, see what He said: John 5:17.
Revelation 7:1-4 AND 9-12, says:
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living GOD: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. (These sealed 144K of each tribe of Israel are the remnant saved of the condemnation and eternal perdition- Luke 3:7 combined with 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12, among countless other biblical references).
On the other hand:
-verses 9-12 combined with Revelation 19:6-10
9 I beheld, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our GOD which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped GOD,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and Glory, and Wisdom, and Thanksgiving, and Honour, and Power, and Might, be unto our GOD for ever and ever. Amen.
Momsage, the question is:
Who are the great multitude, which no man can number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stand before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands? And they cry with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our GOD which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Yes, who are them, Momsage?
According to GOD's Word,what needs to happen first?Exactly what is written in Revelation 18:1-5,i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore.
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,having great power;and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried(will cry)mightily with a strong voice,saying,Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen, ...
Then, just after the fall of Babylon as above quoted, the marriage of the Lamb will be celebrated, yes, the marriage of the Lamb comes and the wife of the Lamb makes herself ready, yeah, the Bride makes herself ready for this wonderful event, Hallelujah! And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Revelation 19:1-10
1 And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and Glory, and Honour, and Power, unto the Lord our GOD:
2 For true and righteous are His Judgments: for He hath Judged the Great Whore(AS ABOVE DESCRIBED), which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. ( Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
Get ready
King James Version
5Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, and put your trust in theLord.
I believe that Christ offered himself for a sacrifice for burnt offerings, and peace offerings .
Revelation 19:6
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
God was once considered by Israel as 'Baali' (Owner), though the LORD longed that Israel would turn away from idolatry & turn back to Him, their Husband (Ishi). How that relationship with Israel pans out post-Cross is difficult to say, for the Scriptures are clear that only those who 'call upon the Lord (Jesus) will be saved' ( Romans 10:13) - and these people are those who call the LORD, their Heavenly Father, even as He is the Father of Jesus Christ, and we in Him, His Body, the Church.