Discuss Revelation 13

  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hey Peyla,

    As S Spencer has said this is not about salvation, through Jesus we have the gift of eternal life. Please do not be confused, the truth is in the Scriptures with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Many are looking to be taken to heaven before the great tribulation of Satan, the beast, and the false prophet.

    We all will be judged Acts 17:31 Hebrews 9:27 2 Corinthians 5:10

    There will be two resurrections; the first is when Jesus returns, after Satan, the beast, and the false prophet have their 3.5 years of tribulation, Revelation 13:1-5 Matthew 24:29-31 2 Thessalonians 2:1-5.

    When Jesus returns with His angels, the first resurrection, the battle of Armageddon, the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit and Jesus will set up the kingdom, and those chosen, and faithful who are first resurrected will rule with Jesus, Revelation 16, 17, 18, 19. After the battle, in Revelation 20:5 we see Thrones and judgment is given to them who were in the first resurrection and given the honor to reign with Jesus during the 1000 years.

    We see in Revelation 20:5-6 the rest of the dead lived not until after the 1000 years and the blessing on those who will be priests of God who will reign with Jesus in the millennium on earth, not heaven. There will be different rewards for the saved who will live in eternity with God and Jesus.

    In Daniel 12:2-3 we see some will shine greater than others and also, we see those in this resurrection, there will be those who will awake to everlasting life, and some who will awake to everlasting contempt. We also see in John 5:28-29 and Matthew 25:31-46 what we see in the white throne judgment, Revelation 20:11-15 the rest of the dead, some will go into eternal life and some who are not found in the book of life is cast into the lake of fire.

    There is much more to study, you should study for your conscience, we must not be deceived Matthew 24:4.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 months ago
    Hi AaronR,

    Thank you, I have not seen or heard that opinion, I just believe the meaning of it is without an answer until it is revealed. One thing we do know if you do not take the mark, whatever this mark is, you cannot buy or sell, so it must be visible, Revelation 13:17.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Ronald Whittemore - 2 months ago
    Just some thoughts on Revelation 12 it covers the past and the future up to the beginning of the 3.5 years of tribulation.

    Part 3

    Satan then goes after the remnant of her seed those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. The remnant of her seed is the faithful people here when the tribulation starts. Like the ones before us who have been persecuted and killed, the fathers and prophets, and after Jesus the thousands upon thousands who have been tortured and killed in the name of Jesus, why would the last be spared when the first was not?

    This starts the 3.5 years of tribulation as we see in Revelation 13, in the original text it is Satan standing on the sand of the sea to give his power, his seat, and great authority to the beast. We see in Rev. 11:7 and Rev. 17:8 that this is the bottomless pit. There are not seven years as some say we see when Satan is cast down and the beast rises, he is given only 42 months, and that is 3.5 years Revelation 13:5. It all starts when Satan is cast down the short time he has is 3.5 years.

    The end of the 3.5 years will be when the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Luke 21:24 Romans 11:25 Revelation 11:2. Then the second coming of Jesus, Matthew 24:29-31 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Revelation 1:7 Revelation 3:11 Revelation 19:11-16 Revelation 22:12.

    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    This is what is coming, everyone will be tempted to take the mark of the beast, Jesus will give us if we are here the strength to say no even if we face death. Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. Revelation 15:2

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    continuation

    Then, face to the environment extremely favorable,the pseudo messiah will make a deal with the Pope to build an universal Empire, a religious Empire,atually an anti-JESUS Empire or AntiChrist's Empire,and according Scriptures who will be the FIRST to rule this satanic Empire for 42 months is the Pope,as it is prophesied in Revelation 13:v.5.



    Then will be given unto the Pope a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies;and also will be given power unto him to continue with his blasphemy for forty and two months(Rev.13:5)and he will open his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name-JESUS-,and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heavenly places in Christ( Ephesians 1:3-8).

    And will be given unto the Pope to make WAR with the saints-( Revelation 13:7-9 combined with Dan.7:22&25-27),and to overcome them: power will be given him over all kindreds,and tongues,and nations,all that dwell upon the earth will worship him,those whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.

    Rev. 13:v.9-10 say: 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. Here is the PATIENCE AND THE FAITH OF THE SAINTS.

    THE WORST OF ALL WILL COME AND IS AT DOOR

    But the worst of all, as soon as ends the FIRST period of 42 months of the Antichrist's Empire,ruled by the Pope Paulus VII,afterwards will assume the RUTHLESS false messiah,and he will rule the Antichrist's Empire for 1290 days(Dan.12:v.11),then will be established the Abomination of Desolation,the end of the current Dispensation arrived.

    Among evangelical people of all denominations will be divisions,they will be hated of all nations for JESUS name's sake, among the believers many will be offended and will betray one another,and will hate one another.And many false prophets shall rise in the churches and will deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.But he that shall endure unto the end,the same shall be saved.
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    THE COURT WHICH IS WITHOUT THE TEMPLE IS GIVEN TO THE GENTILES

    Broters, remember of this: according Revelation 11:1-2,what we can see is that the outer court is given to the gentiles.The text talks about two witnesses being able to execute severe Judgments for 42 months/1260 days, Fire will proceed out of their mouth,and will devour the enemies( Revelation 11:18).

    What will be the SCENARIOS within Jerusalem in this time to come soon?In fact,It is at the door.

    THE FIRST SCENARIO THAT WILL BE SEEN IN JERUSALEM

    In fact the false messiah will manifest himself in the holy city in short future.The supposed messiah,called Eliyahu(??),born in Israel decades ago,already living in the holy city for decades(this detail is very important to be known to everyone here of course),this MAN as soon as he manifests himself as a messiah in the days to come, he will begin to make great signs and lying wonders.This esoteric / spiritist/kabbalistic messiah of the Jews will do great signs and wonders,even will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, deceiving them that dwell on the earth by the miracles which he has power to do- 2Thessalonians 2:9 combined with Revelation 13:13-14.

    THEN A SECOND SCENARIO WILL BE SEEN IN JERUSALEM

    All kind of comunications,the midea in general,will comment the signs and lying wonders of the false messiah and will show them to the whole world,mainly by the chanels of television.In the other hand, Ministries and Ministers of all denominations and sects,and all religious leaders of all religious system that exist,they will preach and spread at the four corners of the earth saying Christ is in Jerusalem,yes,Christ,a false Christ, not JESUS.Then the whole world will hear by/through the leaders of the evangelical Churches and non evengelic too,that he is the Christ or he is the messiah,but it is the false, he is not the true messiah-JESUS.

    The false will manifest himself very soon,after will come JESUS- 2Thessalonians 2:8.Take a look.
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    ATTENTION:Before JESUS coming,will come FIRST the false messiah( Revelation 13:11),as JESUS prophesied- John 5:43.GOD HIMSELF WILL SEND THIS STRONG DELUSION-BE CAREFUL

    See,the Abomination of Desolation is linked to the last week,the last 7 years of this world of Devil in which we are living,but we are not of it,we are of the next to be established by our GOD for a millenniun,as JESUS said( Luke 20:35-36 combined with Revelation 11:15-18,among many biblical references)

    The AoD has nothing to do with armed forces,but establishment of the religious Antichrist's Kingdom for a period of 7 years,the last 7 years of this current world of the Devil.Two satanic Beasts will be together to establish the satanic Kingdom of Antichrist:the Beast of sea-a Gentile Beast- Revelation 13:1-10,and the Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-18,a Jewish Beast,having 2 horns like a lamb,a FALSE LAMB,a FALSE MESSIAH( John 5:43-47),esoteric,kabbalistic and spiritist false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR,and he speaks as a DRAGON(Revelation13:11),and these devilish events will happen after be ELECTED the next and LAST Pope,this will not take long,understand?

    The AoD will be established in the 2nd half of the last week of years by the false Jewish and esoteric and kabbalistic messiah who speaks as DRAGON( John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 12:13-14,take a look)

    He will sit on his demonic throne in Jerusalem,and exerciseth all the power of the first Beast(the Beast of sea)before him,and causes the earth(ISRAEL)and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast(the Gentile Beast-headquater Vatican City),whose deadly wound by the Sword was(will be)healed.How?The deadly wound of the Beast of sea will be healed because the false messiah of the Jews,the DRAGON- Revelation 13:11-gives his Power,his Throne in JERUSALEM,and great AUTHORITY to the Gentile Beast of sea- Revelation 13:2(take a look),who will rule the 1st half of the last week(42 months-Re.13:5)sitting on the Throne of the false messiah in JERUSALEM
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 months ago
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    Yes Jaz, I did use the word 'clarify', but was looking for your 'clarification' concerning those two statements: i.e. to which one you believed was true and not necessarily for a detailed explanation. Nevertheless, that's not important now, particularly after reading your discussions with GiGi, where you clearly stated that you did not need to further explain yourself, especially to her important questions, which would have helped us know where you stand on this matter.

    Ordinarily, if someone told me (as you wrote earlier), "Christ is God manifest in the flesh", I would find complete agreement with that statement, for the Scripture says so ( 1 Timothy 3:16). Yet, in my limited exposure to varying views of people on certain Scriptures, I've found that one can believe that Christ is God manifest in the flesh (as God entering Earth's realm in Christ His Son), yet actually mean that 'after Christ was born into the world, God then entered Him (whether at birth, baptism, or whenever), and so God manifested Himself in Jesus His Son only then. I think you can see the difference between the two, so I (we) were wanting to clarify which belief you held. But I won't press you any longer with that, as you've made it clear that you won't do so.

    If I might address your two other points here: "he was different from the lamb slain from the foundation of the world in that respect". I detected you might have been referring to two lambs (an animal & that spoken of Christ). But the Scripture you quoted ( Revelation 13:8) only refers to Christ. Maybe you meant that an animal would not submit to God's Will (i.e. it would put up a struggle to be free), whereas Christ did not struggle and fully submitted to His Father. Yet, the Scripture only speaks of Christ so an animal could never apply in that verse.
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    Isaiah 66:14-16

    14 And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the Lord shall be known toward His servants, and His indignation toward His enemies.

    15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with His chariots like a whirlwind, to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with flames of FIRE. --> Revelation 11:18>18 And the NATIONS were(will be) angry, and GOD'S WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

    16 For by fire and by His Sword will the Lord plead with all flesh.-->( Revelation 13:3 and 14) Revelation 19:21
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    Daniel prophesied, saying: Daniel 12:7-13

    7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half (42 months or 1260 days- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5-9, take a look); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the END of these things?

    9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the END.(this time ARRIVED, get ready)

    10Many shall be purified, and made white, and TRIED; the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the WISE shall understand.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away(END OF THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE), and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    12 Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    13 But go thou thy way till the END be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the END of the days.-->this time of the END ARRIVED. Matthew 25:29- Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

    Get ready, be careful. JESUS warned: fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell-Mat.10:28.

    The Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    GOD is in control of history, nothing random happens.

    What I know is that the four riders of Apocalypse, one of GOD and three of the Devil, they are already running /walking with their powers that are reflected in whole world.

    It is up to the believing followers of JESUS to identify who the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are,

    the rider of the white horse is Michael( Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16),

    and the rider of the red horse in my view is Trump,

    but who is the rider of the black horse?

    And the pale horse, who is the rider whose NAME is called Death, and Hell follow with him? Is not he the MAN of sin, son of perdition, who will manifest himself very soon as the messiah of the Jews ( John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11-18) even now, in the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-4 and 9-12, as soon as be elected the next and last Pope? As is written, Power will be given UNTO THEM over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the ruthless beasts of the earth?

    The battle is/will be against three unclean spirits like frogs- Revelation 16:13-15. Why frogs? ->there is something in the site of purebible.

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the MOUTH of the dragon( Revelation 13:11), and out of the MOUTH of the Beast (Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-9, the Papacy), and out of the MOUTH of the False Prophet( John 5:43-47).

    14 For they are the SPIRITS OF DEMONS, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that Great Day of GOD Almighty.

    ATTENTION!

    15 Behold, I come as a thief.

    Be careful and Get ready
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    I posted in another site: post #82-Oseas3, Sep 5, 2019

    Which of these TWO Beasts is the main Beast?

    1- John saw a MAN Beast rise up out of the sea(Gentile Beast), having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his (7) heads the name of blasphemy. WHO IS THIS BEAST FROM THE SEA? Is he the main Beast for you?

    2- John saw another MAN Beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, of course), and he spake as a Dragon. WHO IS THIS BEAST FROM THE EARTH? Is he the main Beast for you?

    Which of these TWO Beasts cited above is the main Beast for you?

    We are interpreting the book of Revelation- chapter 13

    1 - Which are the 7 heads of the devilish Beast from the sea, and what they represent?

    2 - Who are the 10 horns having 10 crowns which united themselves to the Beast of the sea?

    3 - What is the name of blasphemy upon the 7 heads of the Beast of the sea?

    4 - Who is the another Beast like a LAMB that was seen by John, who came up out of the earth?-a dry land-

    5 - Why does this another Beast have 2 horns, what they represent?

    The Word of God says: The FIRST religious and blasphemer MAN Beast, the Beast from the sea- Revelation 13:1-10, will rule the Antichrist's Empire for 42 month. For now, the FIRST religious and blasphemer MAN Beast has not Power to establish the Antichrist's Empire ALONE, therefore, this MAN will sit as a ruler of the Antichrist's Empire only and only after the manifestation of the Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-18,and both will make a deal to establish an Empire,a religious Antichrist's Empire.

    Then there will be TWO Beasts operating/working on the Earth.

    After the end of the 42-month rule of the first Beast,who will assume the throne of the Empire of Antichrist for another 1,290 days is the Bleak Abomination through the Beast that has risen from the earth,the Beast as a lamb,but this man speaks as a Dragon.In fact,this Beast as a lamb is a false lamb, a false messiah, an IMPOSTOR.

    GET READY
  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    GET READY GET READY

    Be careful with the pseudo theory of RAPTURE. Yeah, be careful with the called RAPTURE. First comes the red Dragon- Revelation 12:9. JESUS comes after, after the manifestation of the red Dragon. 2Thessalonians 2:8 - 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth(His Word), and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming: > And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having 7 heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Revelation 12:3 combined with Revelation 13:1 and 11 . By the way, the personage of Revelation 13:1- the MAN Beast of sea, he was today with the members of G-7). Be careful or else get ready
  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    Comment on Daniel 9:26-27 for meditation:

    26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified), but not for Himself: and the people of the prince that shall come (the esoteric and kabbalistic false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11) shall DESTROY the CITY (Jerusalem) and the SANCTUARY-> Revelation 13:2->the dragon, the esoteric false messiah of Judaism- Revelation 13:11 gave(will give) him (will give to the Beast of sea-ruler of Catholicism) his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority.; and the END thereof shall be with a flood( Luke 21:24; Revelation 11:2; Revelation 12:15?), and unto the END of the WAR ( Revelation 16:13-15) desolations are determined.

    27 And he (the profane prince of Israel that shall come- Ezekiel 21:25, John 5:43-47; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(covenant with the whole religious structures of the RCC-Judaism and Catholicism- Revelation 13:2): and in the midst of the week( Revelation 13:5) he- the profane wicked prince of Israel, the false messiah- shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease ( 2Thessalonians 2:6-9), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation ( Revelation 16:13-15), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    GOD bless and get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Rainwalker

    GOD gave the Revelation unto JESUS,to shew unto His servants,and JESUS revealed unto us by His angel,in fact an archangel, one like unto the Son of man,and also through John,the Apostle,who write the book.

    Revelation 13:11-And I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth;and he had two horns like a lamb,and he spake as a dragon.

    Rainwalker, remember:

    The dragon, the Beast that will manifest himself in this current time,he is the Beast of the earth.Who is the dragon? He is the old serpent, called the Devil,and Satan,which deceives the whole world,in other words,as JESUS said,he is the father of the Jews- John 8:44.

    By the way, I must say that this MAN Beast of the earth already was born decades ago, understand?What withholdes his manifestation is the validity of sacrifice of our Lord on the cross,the blood of JESUS,that he might be revealed only in his time.It will be soon.

    The sacrifice and the oblation will cease,the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place,and the overspreading of abominations shall make it desolate until the consummation.

    He will manifest himself not as Devil or Satan,the prince of the darkness,but like a lamb,a false lamb,a false Messiah,of course. Furthermore,he has two horns, symbol of two kingdoms-Israel and Judah.

    2 Thes.2:7-12

    7The mystery of iniquity doth already work:only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    8And then shall that Wicked be revealed,whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth(His Word),and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

    9Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;because they received not the love of the truth,that they might be saved.

    11And for this cause GOD shall send them strong DELUSION,that they should believe a lie:

    12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    On May 17, 2021 I posted in another site that South America is ONE of the 7 heads of the Beast of sea,and is wounded to death, much strongly Brazil.

    Re.13:11: I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth; HE has two horns like a lamb,and speaks as a dragon.

    So,in near future ANOTHER Beast will rise up of the earth(earth here is Israel,the clay,the dry land),and the first Beast rises up out of sea-it means peoples,nations,multitudes of all tongues)

    With the appearance of Man Beast of earth(of Israel),then there will be two powerful Beasts reigning in the Planet Earth.

    What I see is that ONE of the SEVEN heads of the first Beast,Beast of sea,it will be wounded to death henceforwards- Revelation 13:3.In my vision,the wounded head by the Sword(a sharp Sword)is/will be South America,much STRONGLY Brazil.The other six heads will be astonished/impressed with the surprising event.

    Because of this surprising and mortal religious event,will rise of the earth the Beast like lamb,speaking as a dragon,doing great signs and wonders,he will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and the esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist Judaism will acclaim the Beast like a lamb as their messiah,in fact he is an IMPOSTER,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-and they will enthroned him in the temple of GOD-JERUSALEM.



    Then the Beast like a lamb will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God,or that is worshipped;so that he as God will sit in the temple of God,shewing himself that he is God,Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.2Thes.2:9

    And the false messiah of the Jews,as is described above,will try to heal the deadly wound of the Beast of sea,then he will give his Power,and his Seat,and great Authority to the Beast of sea-Re. 13:2-and the deadly wound will be healed:and all the WORLD-Europe,and Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),and the three America will stay wondered after the Beast.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Rainwalker

    As you and ALL know, the prophecy - Daniel 7:7-8- is revealing about the fourth Empire- the dreadful and terrible, and strong Roman Empire- diverse from the Greek, Persian and Babylonian kingdoms that were before it. As you and all know, the Roman Empire was specifically and genuinely a GENTILIC Empire, but there was also a completely alien being, or nation, in the Gentile Roman Empire: It was ISRAEL, descendants of Abraham. For this reason the prophecy reveals Israel as an APPENDIX linked to the Roman Empire as 10 other independent powers, DESCENDANTES OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC and JACOB, prophetically represented by 10 horns, which in turn represents the 10 toes of the statue, part of iron, and part of clay- Daniel 2:42. In Daniel 2 , Israel, the clay- Isaiah 64:8-, is represented by 10 toes of the feet of the Nebuchadnezzar's estatue.

    The roots of the Gentile Beast of sea, the Papacy, a religious MONSTER having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy, the main partner of the red Dragon- Revelation 12:3-4 & 9, yeah, the roots of the Gentile Beast of sea-the Papacy, are described in Revelation 13:2. In this current decade must be elected the last Pope, the next, and to this last Pope the dragon- Revelation 13:11-, will give him his Power, and his Throne(in JERUSALEM), and great Authority. Both as a RELIGIOUS AND SATANIC MONSTER-Catholicism and Judaism-iron and clay-, both will establish an Universal and religious kingdom- Daniel 2:41-44 combined with Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2. Take a look.

    There will be a terrible spiritual War in the Earth from now on- Revelation 16:13-15.

    GET READY

    Revelation 21:8 - The fearful(COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    2/3-RESTRAINING-2Thes.2:7-10

    The sacrifice of JESUS until the current time lasted around 727000 days-THE DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKE AWAY WHEN THE JEWISH FALSE MESSIAH-THE BEAST LIKE A LAMB( Revelation 13:11-18 and John 5:43-47SIT IN HIS THRONE IN JERUSALEM- THEN THE PLACE OF THE SANCTUARY WILL BE CAST DOWN, as was prophesied by Daniel. Daniel 7:7-8 & 11.

    Dan.7:7-and behold a fourth Beast,dreadful and terrible,and strong exceedingly;and it had great iron teeth:it devoured and brake in pieces,and stamped the residue with the feet of it:and it was diverse from all the Beasts that were before it;and it had ten horns.

    8-I considered the(10)horns,and,behold,there came up among them another little horn,...and,behold,in this(little)horn were eyes like the eyes of MAN,and a mouth speaking great things. Yea,he(the little horn,by his mouth)shall magnify himself(magnified as God)even to the prince of the host(it is Michael- Revelation 12:7),and by him (by the Jewish false messiah-the little horn)the daily sacrifice will be taken away,and the place of the sanctuary will be cast down.

    The false lamb/messiah( John 5:43),he is also a Jew,and he is from one of the 10 tribes of Israel, maybe from the tribe of Dan as Jacob prophesied- Genesis 49:16-17. He shall rise up from the earth-from Israel-from one of the ten tribes of Israel-HE IS THE LITTLE HORN.

    The false lamb- John 5:43-has two horns like a lamb.Two horns represent the two kingdoms of Israel,but he will rise up from one of the 10 tribes,as prophesied Jacob. Genesis 49:16-17.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    1/3-RESTRAINING-2Thes.2:7-10

    7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:only he who now letteth will let,until he be taken out of the way.

    9Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    The prophecy on the RESTRAINING be taken away,it didn't fulfill yet, of course,but will LITERALLY fulfill in days to come,would say in this current decade,and it only after the end of the FIRST half of the last week,when the next and last Pope be elected,i.e. week 70th Daniel 9:27,actually it will occur only when the Abomination of Desolation be established in the 2nd half of the last week for 1260+30 days.

    The current Dispensation of Grace gets to the END with this terrible and SATANIC event,I say through the manifestation of the Jewish false messiah( John 5:43-47, Revelation 13:11, 2Thess.2:9), and the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation in the holy place.

    Who is he who now does not let the MAN of sin,SON of perdition,a former Cherub,be manifested among his own people(Israel),and also before the whole Gentilic world?The Complete Jewish Bible-CJB says the MAN of sin is at work secretly,in other words-KJV-,"the mystery of iniquity doth already work",but it will be secretly only until he who is restraining him is taken out of the way.

    Well, there are three that bear witness in Earth,the Spirit,the water, and the blood:and these three agree in One- 1John 5:8.The blood is the blood of JESUS that was shed on the cross;the blood of JESUS is the millennial sacrifice of JESUS that REMAINS until the current time for salvation of souls,AND WILL REMAIN until it BE TAKEN AWAY, WHAT WILL HAPPEN ONLY AND ONLY IN THE SECOND HALF OF THE LAST WEEK,WEEK 70th DANIEL 9:27,WHOSE EVENT IS NOT SO FAR FROM THESE DAYS,IT MAY OCCUR IN THIS DECADE .

    GET READY.
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    2/2 - JESUS continued prophesying and warning His people-His Church- about the signs of His coming, and END of the WORLD of Devil now, from now on, even in this current time,saying what shall happen with His people in this period of sorrows:

    (1) they shall deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you;

    (2) and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake;

    (3) then shall many be offended;

    (4) and shall betray one another;

    (5) and shall hate one another.

    (6) many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    (7) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

    The promise of our Lord JESUS

    He that shall endure unto the END of the WORLD, the same shall be saved,

    the gospel of the kingdom of GOD shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all NATIONS;

    Then shall the END come; So,

    when ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place-JERUSALEM-, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )

    then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.- Daniel 12:1-

    except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELIEVE NOT, - John 5:43-47-.

    for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders( John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11-14-take a look- ; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Behold, I have told you before.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Bennymkje

    The point of the last paragraph of my post is about the things which will happen now in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, the Lord's Day, even in this current time, even now, and from now on, as is written in John 5:43-47, combined with Revelation (Apocalypse)13:11 (manifestation of a false lamb, a false messiah in Israel (probably this year or next? 2Thessalonians 2:9-12 - strong delusion), and both Beasts (Catholicism-the Papacy - the RCC plus the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism) both will make a deal to establish a satanic and religious kingdom(the feet and 10 toes of the Nebuchadnezzar's statue- Daniel 2:44-45 combined with Revelation 13:2, according to the LITERAL fulfillment of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing,

    Revelation 13:2 KJV

    2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his Power, and his Seat, and great Authority, and there will be a WAR. WAR between GOD x SATAN- Revelation 13:3 and 13:14 combined with Revelation 12.

    Get ready

    Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth. Isaiah 21:6

    GOD bless
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Greetings, Sister Ellen

    I enjoyed a lot your reply

    Knowing that we are living in perilous times, materially and spiritually, and knowing the grows of the sophisticate artificial man-made technology, my concern is about the flood the serpent may spread out through his satanic systems, trying to cause the Church to be carried away from the Truth by his flood of apostasies and traps, through corrupt and devilish messages / posts, and so on.

    Revelation 13:5-10

    5 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against GOD, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven ( Ephesians 1:3-8 combined with Philippians 3:20-21).

    7 And it was given unto him to make WAR with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, WHOSE NAMES are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. - This is a severe warning for us -

    Ephesians 6:11-17

    11 Put on the whole armour of GOD, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

    12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of GOD, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

    14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with Truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

    15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

    16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of GOD:

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Bennymkje

    Sorry for the delay. I searched to interpret the nuances of your answer to the question I made for you, i.e. why did JESUS send not a letter to the Church of Rome, that was developed by Paul Apostle ( Romans 1:7-13, written around 57AD), when He sent the seven letters to the Churches of Asia? My focus was: what would you say about this? It was just curiousity.

    Of my part, trying to search an explanation for the omission or exclusion of the Church of Rome of the list of our Lord JESUS, only for to report or to clarify my point, I would say that when was revelead the Apocalypse to John, the Church of the Lord in Rome had already apostatised completely, and had turned itself the embryo and the birthplace, or the cradle, of the antiChrist, linking to the Roman Empire -the iron-, and remains still until today an apostate Church in the hands of Devil ( 1John 2:18-21).

    When the false messiah of the JEWS- John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation(Apocalypse)13:11- manifest himself in Israel (probably this year or next?), both Beasts -(Catholicism-the Papacy, and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judasm) will make a deal to establish a religious and satanic kingdom(the feet and 10 toes of the Nebuchadnezzar's statue- Daniel 2:44-45 combined with Revelation 13:2), and there will be a WAR between GOD x SATAN- Revelation 13:3 and !3:14 combined with Revelation 12.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Ronald Whitemore

    PRE TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS

    Matthew 24:1-2&15-25

    Jesus went out from the Temple:His disciples showed Him the buildings of the Temple.JESUS said:See ye not all these things?verily I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another, what He prophesied fulfilled LITERALLY in 70AD,the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy.Temple was destroyed in 70AD,Israel was banned from their land,and were scattered around the world for 1878 years,from 70AD-1948AD,100K died under the army of Romans's attack.Israel suffered severe and great punishments for 1878 years in LITERAL fulfillment of Deuteronomy 28:15-68.Take a look.The WORD IS GOD,self-executing,understand?

    Then JESUS went to the Mount of Olives,there the disciples privately asked two important things to Him,saying:

    1 - What shall be the sign of thy coming?

    2 - and of the END of the world?(the current Devil's world)

    JESUS LISTED A TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS, AND SAID HOW WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE TIME

    The testimomy of JESUS is the Spirit of PROPHECY.He listed several events linked to His Coming,and to the END of THIS current Devil's world.

    Matthew 24:4-8-Jesus said:

    v.4-Take heed that no man deceive you;(this the first concern of JESUS).It seems many have not kept the warning of JESUS and are being deceived by false and devilish theories spread in the world mainly by Internet.

    v.5-For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many;

    (Soon will manifest the Beast of the earth who has two horns like a lamb,actually a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR. John 5:43, 2Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 13:11).

    v.6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS;seefor ALL THESE THINGS must come to pass,but the END is not yet.

    v.7-For NATION shall rise against NATION,and kingdom against kingdom:

    there shall be famines;

    pestilences;

    earthquakes in divers places.

    8All these are the beginning of SORROWS.(Pre-tribulational)
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hello Rainwalker - and Ronald Whittemore

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    I could not see in your reply what is your interpretation on Dan.9:27, you just limited yourself to informing other interpretations are erroneous, your answer did not bring your interpretation.I did not understand what you meant: 'one issue with Dan 9:27 is that it's all about the Messiah'.

    But what does Daniel 9:27 reveal?

    27 - And HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(of years):and in the MIDST of the week(after 42 months)HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,and for the overspreading of abominations HE shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Just curious.Who is HE in your understanding? (Remember:In Matthew 24:15 our Lord JESUS LITERALLY referred to this desolation spoken of by Daniel as a signal of His coming imediately after the period of sorrows- Matthew 24:3-8).

    Then,according to the above,'HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease',but verse 26 says:And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified),but NOT for Himself: and the people (WHAT PEOPLE?)of the PRINCE (WHAT PRINCE?)that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(for me Ezekiel 21:25 reveals who is this profane Prince); and the end thereof shall be with a flood,and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    You said 'the Ministry of JESUS' was 3,5 years, but the current and universal record of the period of JESUS's Ministry is only 3 years, not 3,5 years. What is your source? Just curious,it's unknown to me.

    Sorry, our posts are read by many brothers and sisters, so my concern is to FIND the true interpretation of Scriptures in the current perilous times, and also overspreading of apostasies, beyond manifestation of the son of perdition very soon( John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 13:11).

    May our Lord GOD bless us,and give us His pretection

    Amen
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Ronald Whittemore & Rainwalker

    The message below is for your meditation, as a clue, to decipher an enigma / conundrum.

    As you know, Revelation 13 describes two terrible different Beasts:

    Beast of sea(verse 1),

    Beast of the earth(verse 11)

    Which of the two Beasts are you referring to?

    According to the Revelation, sea means waters, waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitues of all tongues- Revelation 17:15-i.e. Gentile nations, so the Beast of sea is a Gentile Beast.

    The Beast of earth has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a DRAGON (a false lamb), by allegory, earth here is Israel, the clay( Isaiah 64:8) a dry land, like an isle in the sea, a portion of earth surrounded by waters (gentile peoples) on all sides.

    According to the Daniel 9:27, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Revelation 13:2 says the DRAGON shall give to the GENTILE Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat(his throne in Jerusalem), and great Authority. And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations( Daniel 12:11) he shall make it desolate until the consummation.

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    Re.16:13-15

    13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the MOUTH of the dragon,and out of the MOUTH of the Beast(of sea), and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet.

    14For they are the spirits of devils,working miracles,which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,to gather them to the battle of that great Day(Lord's Day,the seventh)of God Almighty.

    15Behold,I come as a thief. (Get ready)

    Blessed is he that watcheth,and keepeth his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame.

    Re.12:9-16

    9And the great dragon( Revelation 13:11)was cast out,that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world: he was(will be)cast out into the earth, and his messengers- 2Corinthians 11:13-15-were(will be)cast out with him.

    10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,NOW is come salvation,and strength,and the kingdom of our GOD,and the power of His Christ:for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,which accused them before our GOD day and night.

    11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,and by the Word of their testimony;and they loved not their lives unto the death.

    12Therefore rejoice,ye heavens( Philippians 3:20-21),and ye that dwell in them.Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!for the Devil is come down unto you,having great wrath,because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth,he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

    14And to the woman were given TWO WINGS of a great eagle,that she might FLY into the wilderness( Isaiah 60:8),into her place,where she is nourished(by the Word of GOD)for a time,and times,and half a time,from the face of the serpent.

    15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman,that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

    16And the earth helped the woman,and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    Joshua 5:13-15

    13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his Sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?

    14 And he said, Nay; but as captain (a Prince) of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?

    15 And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

    Daniel 12:-13

    1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time(because Michael stand up): and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

    2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

    Matthew 24:15and21-23

    15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,spoken of by Daniel the prophet,stand in the holy place,(whoso readeth,let him understand )

    21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

    22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved:but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    23Then if any man(Pastors, Bishops,Evangelists,etc.) shall say unto you,Lo, here is Christ( John 5:43-47.Take a look),or there;BELIEVE IT NOT.

    Re.12:7 & 10-11

    7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his messengers fought against the dragon( Revelation 13:11);and the dragon fought and his messengers.
  • Oseas - 8 months ago
    PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON

    I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea,and walk through a desert,walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of pilgrimage.What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

    Now GOD's people will have to go through(I mean win a war)against the Red Dragon,that's exactly it,a Red Dragon yes,this is no coincidence,it was predicted millennia ago.He's a false messiah who will soon manifest,just ahead,with great signs of lying,he will manifest in Israel like a lamb with two horns,he's a Jew,of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.3-17 and Revelation 13: 11-18.

    Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335.Amen.

    Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh(by the way,there and now is Satan himself),and when the march began for the departure of GOD's people from Egypt, then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews,the same will happen now,initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea,it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers- Revelation 13:5 - for 42 months,that is the first half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:v.27.This POINT is only and only the half of the way -3,5 years or 42 months,the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years,so the murch will last 7 years,it will not be easy this journey of course.

    Again:Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceendigly joy-the day 1335. Amen.

    JESUS in His prayer to the Father,said: John 17:15 - I pray not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

    Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5

    Get ready, yeah, get ready
  • Oseas - 8 months ago
    Many think there will be a WWIII now,oh no,there will not be,absolutely.We just entered in the current seventh and last millennium,so there will not be WWIII,absolutely.JESUS listed the events that must happen in this beginning of the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last GOD's Day. Matthew 24:1-8:

    PRE TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS

    Verses 1- 2:->JESUS went out and departed from the Temple.His disciples came to Him and showed Him the building of the Temple. JESUS said:See ye these things?I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another.JESUS disappointed his disciples, evidently.

    What JESUS prophesied about the Temple it fulfilled LITERALLY in the year 70AD, the Temple was destroyed,Israel was banned from their land and scattered around the world for 1.878 years, from 70AD to 1948AD, more than 100K died under of the Roman's attack.

    JESUS went to the Mount of Olives, there the disciples privately asked TWO things to Him:

    1-What shall be the sign of thy coming?

    2-and of the END of the world?(END of the current Devil's world)

    JESUS listed several events linked 1st:to His Coming;2nd: about END of this current Devil's WORLD.

    Mat.24:4-8-JESUS said:

    4-Take heed that no MAN deceive you;(this was the first concerns of JESUS)

    5-For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many; (Soon will manifest the MAN Beast of the earth like a lamb,a false lamb,false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR,as said JESUS- John 5:43, 2Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 13:11-18.

    6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS; ALL THESE THINGS must come to pass but THE END IS NOT YET.

    7-NATION shall rise against NATION, kingdom against kingdom;(Will G7,G20,EU,UNO,be DISSOLVED from now on? Pe.3:7, Re.11:18, Micah 4:3).

    -and there shall be famines;it is fulfilling LITERALLY

    - and pestilences;In fulfillment;

    - and earthquakes-divers places;

    8 All these are the beginning of SORROWS(Pre-tribulational)

    Wake up-Get ready,now time's still of sorrows.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Dear Jaz

    Greetings in Christ JESUS our Lord and Saviour

    Thank you for your reply.

    As it is written,"All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD,and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness:That the man of GOD may be perfect,thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

    As you know,our enemy"is wiser than Daniel;there is no secret that they can hide from him".Paul Apostle warned,saying:Put on the whole armour of GOD,that ye may BE ABLE to stand AGAINST the wiles of the Devil.

    Think you(and many)also know that the MAN of sin,a Jewish MAN,son of perdition,will manifest himself very soon as messiah and God( John 5:43-47and 2Thessalonians 2:3-4and9-12,and mainly Revelation 13:11 and so on),so we all MUST be careful.Get ready.



    However,the prophecy of Ezekiel is very clear:Ez.28:7-10-->7 Behold,therefore I will bring strangers upon thee,the terrible of the nations:and they shall draw their Swords against the beauty of thy wisdom,and they shall defile thy brightness.

    8They shall bring thee down to the pit( Revelation 20:1-3),and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.(peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues-Re.17:15)

    9Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee,I am God?but thou shalt be a MAN,and no God,in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

    10Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised(he's a Jewish MAN)by the hand of strangers:for I have spoken it,saith the Lord GOD.

    Re.12:9-12-->9And the great dragon was cast out,that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,and his angels were cast out with him.

    10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,Now is come salvation,and strength,and the kingdom of our GOD,and the power of His Christ:for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,which accused them before our GOD day and night.11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb,and by the word of their testimony;12Th


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