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Trying to confort Patty B. Eveyone beleivs in God no matter if he is aware of it or not. But a man who is not touched by the questions of his existence can not hear the call of the Holy Text. Keep Your faith Patty B. That is the best thing You can do.

Be Still and KNOW That I AM God, and Their IS No OTHER! Is Also what comes to Mind. God is SOOOOOH GOOOD and for those who refuse to hear cannot see that we are GODS bought with he HIGHEST Price Of LOVE ever Afforded I AM HIS as Long as HE will have me, and HE is WITH me EVEN Unto the ENDS of the World (AGE)I LONG for HEaven and ALL to be there an UN BROKEN FAMILY Made NEW. God Is SO GOOD to me, I WISh and I DO PRAY My astranged Husband Finds this out while he still can.

I miss America! I miss the days of simple hope and honest work, being rewarded. Things were not so complicated. Through modern globalization, living in a borderless nation, with our military going around the world to win the hearts and minds of 9th century mindsets of cruelty and evil manifestos of world conquest through the mandates and madness of their Koran. It makes me sad for the youths of America. Having lost our moral compass, it seems we are as a nation fleeing from common sense values of faith and honor. America is now on the run! Bouncing around the globe, trying to buy friends, with freshly printed money fleeing as in vs.1.There is an old rock-n-roll song, "man on the run"! The wicked flee when no man pursues. If our nation turned back to God, we could hear the Lord say,"Stand still and see the salvation of the Lord". ex.14;13 No more running around like a drunk duck! Be still and know that i am God. ps.46:10.
The righteous are as bold as a lion. The lion ain't running around trying to buy favors. He calmly walks in the confidence that God gave him.
2 things ch.28 speaks of for prolonging a nation and prolonging our days.
* 1. NATION: In vs.2 - A nation is brought down by the transgressions of many leaders (princes). But vs.2 goes on to say by the wisdom & understanding of 1 man(solitary man of God) the nation can be saved or prolonged. Lets pray for our nation!
*2. vs.16 -"Our days" Leaders that are without wisdom create great oppression. I can now feel that great oppression in the air i breathe.But God's answer is to hate greed and covetousness; not people. In so doing we personally will be free, with the promise that he will prolong our days. And we shall rest in His love, knowing he cares for us. -- agape -- reggie --

I want to say you Draperdonavin, my sister had the same problem than you, through this the Lord guide us to him as a family. Was the way, because all the things help us to be fine if we love him. We discovered God is greather than devil and demons, you just need receive him and stay as close as be posible, every second, thinking in God and reading his Word as much as be posible, I'll stay praying for you because i lived the same with my sister and i know and understand you very well, but you need to know you are not alone, the Lord Sabaoth is with you and by you, he is a warrior thegreatest one. God bless you and pray in this way: Lord JEsus i know you love me, and died for give me freedom, forgive all my sin, and help me to walk so close that i can see me more, that you be all in me, i know you are alive and listening me now, thanks for writing my name in the life's book, and your holy name i pray, amen.

PROVERBS CHAPTER 28: EVIL MEN HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS RIGHT BUT THOSE WHO SEEK THE LORD UNDERSTAND IT FULLY. HE THAT IGNORES THE LAW OF GOD, YOUR PRAYERS DISGUST HIM (DISLIKES). WHEN THE GODLY SUCCEED EVERYONE IS GLAD, BUT WHEN THE WICKED TAKES CHARGE, PEOPLE GO INTO HIDING.

Very good advice from both ROBYN and Darren. Thanks also for sharing your problem. Sometimes we forget that it is very real today, just as it was in Jesus' time.

The new Jerusalem (city of peace): new heaven & a new earth ( new spirit or mind and a new soul or heart) Revelation 21:1.
The old Jerusalem : Canaan ( merechant,traffick)(bring into subjection, subdue,etc.)H3667,3665. Old Jerusalem represents religion with all it's rituals,ceremonies,and traditions of the law that bring us into bondage.
My son, keep thy father's commandment,and forsake not the law of thy mother. Proverbs 6:20
Father:(instructor): Amorite (sayer,act proudly,to boast,mt.dweller or pride)
Mother:a religious establishment or to give birth to; law giver.
Hittite (terror,break down by confusion and fear,etc.) H2850,2845,2865)
These are the religious leaders in organized religion, which keep the people in darkness and bondage.
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they unto him, We be not Born of Fornication; we have one Father, even God...Ye are of your father the devil( 1Peter 5:8,9- Proverbs 28:15), and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer(hater) from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:30-44.
Sad to say, but many find themselves in bondage,and don't even know it, because they follow after men and religious rituals,ceremonies and trditions. That's why their is so much strife among religious people.
When we are truly born of God; we walk in obedience to His Word through Love.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour; therefore Love is the fulfilling of the law.
Romans 13:10

Hope this has been helpful.

Amos





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The book of Proverbs to me is GODS guide book for daily living. Try reading chapter 1 on the 1st day of every month and so on. I thank u LORD for all the blessings you have allowed me to have.

Joe- Pity I don't need, answers I do need. I'd like to know what you mean by "going in every different direction" and "jumping from text to text". The chapters and verses I quoted, are fact. Or is it just mistakes written in the Bible. Whatever it is Joe, you have to admit it makes you wonder if the clear verses are condradictions or mistakes that man have written themselves. You yourself need to open your eyes. The writtings are so clear even an Intelligent child will pick it up. I do believe in our Almighty God, the creator of the universe, heavens and all thats in between. It is God and God alone we need to give thanks too and praise him each moment of everyday and night for the blessings he has bestowed on us, to prostate in prayer as he commanded Abraham, Moses and every prophet to do. Genesis 17:3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying," Exodus 34:8 And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped. Joshua 5:14 And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him. Matthew 17:6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. Matthew 26:39 And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed.
To give elms to the poor. Proverbs 28:27
He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses. Luke 14:12-14
Jesus advised hosts to invite the poor to their banquets because then God would bless them.
God is great

Thanks for taking the risk to share your story. You have been through awful things and deserve far better. I believe there's hope for you to find freedom. Please take another risk and share this with someone in person. Try sharing with a Christian and let him/her pray for you. It won't do you harm, but will only help.

Try reading the Bible and pursuing God. He's still there. People in this world have dealt with demon possession and have broken free- various books exist on that and can be found at a Christian bookstore. Try contacting the author and learn and find support from someone who has been through it. Or search online for the subject and find people who maybe you can share these things with. I will pray that you break free and find the freedom you were made for. Keep fighting this spiritual battle for your soul and never give up. You can also keep posting here. I hope you come back and are able to read this.

I'm going to tell you something that you are not going to believe.When I was 3 yrs old,my family lived in the town of Boyes Hot Springs,on Railroad Ave.I was electrocuted when I was all alone,and since then,I have been troubled by the devil,demons,etc...2 and a half excorsim later,(a priest took off after starting one and never came back,wouldn't take my calls),I am and have been possessed.This began in 1957.Since I figured out that I was possessed 16 years ago,(the devil actually kept me from figuring it out,deliberatly)I have tried many many churches,till I met a man that told me last november,that he was studying this type of phenomena,(it's always been as if my prayers aren't heard),and what he had learned was that it was fortold that the devil would hide some men from God,and it would be done 3 different ways,and he told me he was sure that my situation fit one of those three ways.Anoutherwords,God cannot hear my voice.I have been tortured through hell that you would not believe that any man could take.And as a matter of a fact I couldn't.But the devil was given the "full pattern" by God,having the power to heal.When I tried to commit suicide while living in a barn by placing a 5 gallon can of propane in with myself under a garbage bag,turned it on,I would pass out,and then I would wake up and be breathing propane.Though dizzy,I could breathe almost pure propane.This I did over 7 times in 5 years,with each time being the same.Finally,I took a hose and attatched it to the exhaust of a 327 cu.in. chevy pick up truck,and sat in the cab for over an hour.I got sick later after I got out like a bad hang-over,but wasn't allowed to die.This was from the devil not allowing me to make it to heaven and tell God.(I planned on comming back,thats why I haven't used a gun).I have story after story of things he's done to me,some till I scream out loud because they're so painful.Regardless,it' been over 50 years of torture and pure hell.I won't even listen to babies or weak individuals that think that God hears all prayers,and tucks us all in to bed at night anymore,I had enough of that crap.I'm talking about the real devil himself,(I've actually seen him),and how he dosen't care what God and the Lord told all you kids about how safe you are,and how you can all feel so safe in your beds and in your faith at night.It's bull.It could have been you if you were where I was,by luck,53 years ago,and you would have been writting me this letter instead,and I would have been doubting you and secretly hoping that what you said wasn't true,and being afraid that the devil can snatch one of us away and its as if you lived on the moon,and there was no God,(one of the things that one of the demons keeps lamenting,"there is no God".All alone,and at the non-mercy of the devil,tortured till you scream at night at 4:00 am,steal money out of your wallet,torture your dog,break everything,(this is my first working computor,ever),tell you when you lay in bed that they've decided to give you a headache,and the pain is excruciating,always lonely,I can't expose anyone to the devil,and all without the benefit of the Lord Jesus Christ.My Savior...While you're praying to Him and getting all teary eyed while doing it,I'm suffering through my fifty third year of hell with the devil.Don't say anything stupid like"all things for a reason",and I love,"He works in mysterious ways.".Thats for you little children who would never be able to handle the truth about how the Lord forgot one of his own.And finaly how,you can live in hell on earth,the real thing,with monsters and all,right under your Lords watchful eyes.You don't want to believe me?I cant blame you because I would never want to know that I,or my 3 year old was not safe from things that go on out there if you don't have the Lords protection.So go back to what ever you were doing before,because I'm willing to bet that you denied everything as being not true,the second after you read it,(and once again,I really don't blame you,because I would do anything to make this truth go away,and will).So I'll leave you with one last vision of the real world that no church has the decency to admit,(they have been the biggest cowards,and one of the lowest dissapointments).So quickly an exsample.. to show me that I had real troubles,before I found out that I'm possessed,the devil once annimated a corpse and made it walk in front of me.Believe it or not,I'm not allowed to feel much fear,(because that can activate the"emergency broadcast system,roughly speaking),but that was one of the few times in my life that I felt like I was almost going to panic and lose control completly.Tell that to the church next time you're all swaying back and forth,and feeling so safe.P.S.Boyes Hot Springs?Railroad Avenue?A little boy railroaded to hell,(thats a little joke from the devil to God about me).From twennty six and a half million minutes,living in compressed darkness with the devil.P.S.again,I also once was in front of,what felt like ,the presence of God.I could feel love,but it's difficult with the devil in you,Amd then ten minutes later,(this was one of the times that I was living in the back of my car,out in the woods),I saw the Lord Jesus Christ.He appeared from no where,and was about 50 to 60 yards away.He was about 10 to 15 feet off the ground and was sitting on an unadorned white "throne",He seemed to be very large,and He told me "I am the Lord,I have always loved you,and I will never stop loving you".Then He just dissapeared.I believe it was a trick by the devil,seeing as though he was being especially mean to me at that time,and was trying to keep me thinking about God and the Lord,which I did an inordinate amount of my time anyway,so I would get mad at them for what he did to me right after that,anouther story.I didn't know about the possession then.It was the devils slick trick to keep me thinking about God and the Lord alot,because that way I would wonder why my luck was so bad,and blame them (and I did).ta ta to those who have no fu-----clue.