Comments by Alex about Mark 8 v 22 Jesus have to pray for the blindman a 2 nd time And Jesus is God why wd he have to pray for the blindman a 2 nd time.lemme tell ya why. Jesus had to take the blindman by his hand and lead him outta of the city,Thus the blindman is symbolic of the Church.God had to take the church in the wilderness by the hand lead her outta of Egypt. She was blind spritually. The early Church cd not see clearly under the 1st anointing even Paul says we see like thru a glass darkly Early Church doctrine cd not enable the Church to see clearly. Early Church doctrine was the 1st anointing, We see in part etc, Nobody can see clearly under early Church doctrine thats y we have 1000s of churches on every corner its simply b/c we cannot see clearly under the 1st anointing, There has to be a 2 nd anointing, Which is the 2 nd coming when he will pour out his spirit on all flesh and we will all march together and not break rank as Joel said When that book is opened Then the kingdom will come. When that which is perfect is come that which is done in parts will be done away with. Thats y they sang a new song when the book was opened the book is the new Covenant ( that 2 nd Anointing ) we will all see clearly in that day.We will all bring forth fruit unto God we will no more be as trees walking ( fruitless trees ) But now there are not even 2 ppl under 1 roof that can agree on 1 scripture, We need that 2 nd anointing to see clearly, which is the 2 nd coming when he will pour out his spirit on all flesh, Then we will all see clearly no more churches on every corner but Christ is gonna be born in our hearts abide in me and i in you,Thats y he always called himself the son of man, mankind is gona bring forth fruit unto God which is a baby Christ the SON OF MAN the H.G. the Children of PROMISE, OUR NEW BIRTH. She brought forth a manchild that IS GONNA RULE ALL NATIONS, Thats the results of the new covenant, the seed of the SOWER TH WORDS OF GOD THE 2N ANOINTING.
I did try to answer your questions with scripture.
Regarding Peter, I've asked the same question before. The Holy Spirit was not yet given to mankind, and he was not born again when he denied Christ.
The time is rapidly approaching when every Christian will be tempted to deny Christ before people, in order save their temporary lives. Most "Christians" will deny Him, erroneously and fatally thinking "Oh, God will forgive me." No, He won't. He says he won't forgive you right here: "But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God." Luke 12:9
If you will remember anything from our conversation, please remember these words of Jesus.
"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it." Mark 8:35
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Look at the context of this verse. The one sin that won't be forgiven is to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit. Right before Jesus said this, he said that those who deny Him (Jesus) before men will be denied eternal life. To deny Jesus is to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, and that sin will not be forgiven.
If we deny Christ, we were never saved to begin with, and we are denied eternal life.
"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it." Luke 9:24, Matt 16.25, Mark 8:35, Luke 17:33
It's ok to share your beliefs, but please be respectful of the majority of Christians who do not share your belief. We are to be in unity and not start unproductive quarrels. This sounds like a provoking statement to make as if inviting an argument, because someone will then reply with the normal scriptures supporting the trinity and you will refute that with your own scripture and interpretation and nothing will change. Neither party will change opinions, but may become frustrated with my others don't interpret scripture the same way you do. One strategy is to state ones interpretation without accusing the majority of following satan or anything else. And the same can always be said in reverse. God bless.
Full Disclosure: I am not a Christian. But in a recent reading of Mark 8:11 - 9:1, I noticed that they had very similar content - the same story. What stood out was Matthew 16:9, absent in Mark.
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Which I interpret as conferring on Peter the authority that Jesus holds - the power of God. I find this troubling.
I would make a link but I do not think we are supposed to on this website. A search to read from "Restitution" from a library for free might need to have the words : "University of Chicago" included.
There is a book, written by a man, whom also believed that the last day, the second coming of Christ is also the day of judgement for the earth, the wicked, Satan and the fallen angels. The name if the book is " Restitution" by Henry Funk. A google search will bring it up. If inspired read the last chapter beginning at page 433 on "The Consummation by Christ". This is not the Bible, it is more like a commentary on a few points of how Jesus Christ, God's Lamb, fulfilled the law.
People With Hardened Hearts Against the Gospel - In Reply on Isaiah 9:10 - 4 years ago
Ephesians 4:18 - Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
Matthew 13:14-15 - And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall NOT PERCEIVE.
Proverbs 28:13-14 - He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them, shall have mercy.
Hebrews 3:8 - Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Mark 8:17 - And when Jesus knew [it], he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
Exodus 9:12 - And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.
Exodus 7:3 - And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.
Jeremiah 17:9 - The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
John 12:48 - He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Mishael : It takes Spiritual Warfare to free a person to hear Gods Word. See sermons on YouTube, about that. See Ephesians 6. Don't let the devil scare you. He knows Jesus stripped him of his authority to steal souls. Watch some Charles Capps videos too so you will understand your authority through the Blood of Jesus.
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" We chase after so many different things. Only one thing is needful. Having a fist full of dollars, a great estate, and lots of prestige doesn't mean a whole lot if you've gone to your ultimate address without the Lord. Even worse is to find that in the middle of your busy-ness, you awake to find yourself in the barren land where Christ does not dwell and life is not found. Let's not lose our life, our soul, our meaning, chasing after what is not lasting. My Prayer. Father, help me to keep my priorities right, my life holy, and my heart open to your will rather than being blinded with my own self-seeking. In Jesus' precious name I pray. Amen.
When Jesus called His Father "God" He was referring to Psalms 22, which He was teaching to the people present there. He was not complaining.
Jesus was NEVER forsaken by God.
What do we do with all Scripture that speaks of BOTH the Father and the Son? Matthew 11:27, 16:27, Mark 8:38, 13:32, Luke 1:32, John 3:35, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 1:5, 1 John 4:14, etc. etc. etc.)
Scripture does not say "In the name of the Father, the Father, and the Holy Ghost." Matthew 28:19
What is the true gospel or the good news? Is it the coming of the kingdom of God or Jesus dying for our sins and rose on the third day? I see in Matt 1:14 the kingdom of God. Then I see in 1Corinthians 15:1-4 he died for our sins and rose again. I want to tell people about the good news but I have to know and understand it myself. Can you help?
I will tell a part of my full testimony. My salvation was akin to Pauls on the Damascus road. Later, after all the getting free from spiritual warfare; I would hear accusations against me in my mind, about sins, hating my ex, having hurtful thoughts; hating myself. People who told me to my face that anyone as bad as I had been could not possibly be saved. I didn't FEEL worthy. I thought I would let Jesus off the "hook". I saw a vision of Him on the cross but it was laying on the ground. I picked up a big rock and started hitting the nails in his hands. He was looking in my eyes ( that were streaming in tears.). Every time I hit him, He said, I Love You. I couldn't hurt Him anymore. I felt his arms around me. I woke.
I gave him all I had ever been or done; all the memories of sin that hurt like a crown of thorns. Maybe it was faith but I asked Him to erase all the memories of sin from me. He did it. Those memories are just gone. Who I had been, was buried.
I had to learn new things, like the joy of my Salvation.
In my experience, the Holy Spirit is not an authoritarian that frowns when we miss the mark, Don't learn faster, don't look like other Christians that seem to have it all figured out. That's not Him. If we give all our preconceived perceptions of Him, TO HIM; He gives us the new Life of a beloved child of God. You can have as much of heaven, NOW, as you give yourself freedom to take. "Taste and see the Goodness of the Lord." YOU are why He went to the Cross. He looked all the way forward 2000 years and saw your face.
Give Him your life (alpha, omega), and you take His Life .... as in cutting a covenant.
Then as His Bride, Song of Solomon 6:3, 7-10; Isaiah 49:14-18, 22:-26, I am the Lord: they shall not be ashamed that wait for Me!
There is no gender in this thought. He is YOUR beloved.
Draw closer to Him and He will draw closer to you. You can have as much love as you are able to hold.
In Judges 3. Could you expound on who is Ehud? What is his connection to Moab? How did he become the deliverer? I understand that he defeated Moab. I have to discuss
BELIEVE on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved...that's all. Unfortunately...very few Christian claimers BELIEVE ON the name of the Lord Jesus Christ! The Holy Spirit said in the NT '' God iz a spirit and must be worshiped in SPIRIT n TRUTH! Shalom.
As a society we give importance to material things and attribute the greater our accumulation of them, as the measure of worldly success. Although throughout history, it can be seen that when someone dies, all of their worldly goods are left behind. Hence the saying, "You can't take it with you." Even so, it is an accepted ideology, that having a lot of material gain, is a good & needful thing. Yet at the same time, it is not without it's downfalls. Because it is also very common that in our social circles, that as time goes by, we get tired and bored of all our 'stuff' and begin wanting newer, better, higher tech'y things, never being satisfied. And in so doing, we begin to lose sight of more important things like being selfless instead of selfish, not thinking about others before ourself or making sure all of our needs are taken care of, before even noticing if anyone else is struggling in need. But, according to the Holy Scripture, "What does it profit a man, to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?" Mark 8:36 - Herein, is a clear message, that becoming enfocused in mainly looking out for ourselves, will ultimately cause us to forget that we too, like every other beast, eventually reach the end, 'our final destination'. What will have been, our own great contribution then? Who will remember us and why? If all we've done, is insure our own personal self-satisfaction & a highly prized collection of trophies, tokens and treasures to simply collect dust and finally ends up being inherited by another who places little value on them, only to be sold, given away or trashed.., as has happened w/an array of trophies after years pass & new trophies are put in their place. It is wiser then, "..to lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven where neither moth nor rust doth currupt and where theives do not break in to steal." Matt. 6:20 Let us therefore, in humble compassion, strive for the prize of His high calling, run the race and "having done all, to stand." Eph.3:16
Jesus already said exactly who he came for. Luke 19:10, Mark 2:17. He came for the lost and sinners. Who is lost and a sinner? Romans 3:23 - Everyone. So, Jesus came for everyone- that's exactly what the Bible says. Jesus gave a firm warning to those who try to deceive others by twisting or denying what Jesus said: Mark 8:38, 1 John 2:22-23.
Jesus had to anoint the blindman a 2 nd time,he cd not see clearly under the 1st anointing,the blindman is the Church that cd not see clearly under early church doctrine the 1st anointing. Thats y Paul said we see like thru a glass darkly, nobodycan see clearly under early church doctrines thats y there are a zillion different churches everybody sees a different vision.Jesus took the blindman by his hand and led him outta of the city.Jesus took Israel by the HAND AND led her outta of Egypt AND SHE WAS REFERED TO AS THE CHURCH.THAT 2 ND ANOINTING is when the book is opened and GOD pours out his spirit on all flesh,when that which is perfect is come the 2nd anointing when the Manchild comes
The, "whosoever," in Mark 8:35 does not refer to you, it is a reference for Jesus Christ. He is the only one who can save you, you can't save yourself. Remember, you don't haver the faith of a mustard seed... Matthew 17:20.
This world certainly struggles with the last verses of this chapter. Satan offers so many things to get the lost to stay blinded to the light of Christ. No wonder so many die and goto hell instead of Heaven. If a man doesn't want anything to do with the Lord in this world, how can he ever expect to live and serve God in Heaven.
Jesus models the heart and will of the father at all times. He always has compassion, as he teaches the disciples and us how to follow. Precept on precept.
Hawaii have a lot of souls yep,and a lot of souls lost yep,but we have a "GOD!" That loves,cares,and teaches us to come to "HIM!" Yep.We have "HIM!" To go to yep We have a lot of souls that don't go to "HIM!" Yep they go to objects yep,like idols,tools of the devil or statues too yep that don't exist anymore yep.We need "GOD!" To go to for gain life or gain a "GODLY SPIRIT!" Yep "BELIEVE!" Yep the other stuff yep like titles,statues,idols yep is not the one anymore for worship yep,cause "GOD!" Is the true spirit The spirit that comes to save us a lot yep "BELIEVE!" Yep bye."HE LOVES ALL!"
31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. (yes, a lot of sickness,
I did try to answer your questions with scripture.
Regarding Peter, I've asked the same question before. The Holy Spirit was not yet given to mankind, and he was not born again when he denied Christ.
The time is rapidly approaching when every Christian will be tempted to deny Christ before people, in order save their temporary lives. Most "Christians" will deny Him, erroneously and fatally thinking "Oh, God will forgive me." No, He won't. He says he won't forgive you right here: "But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God." Luke 12:9
If you will remember anything from our conversation, please remember these words of Jesus.
"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it." Mark 8:35
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
If we deny Christ, we were never saved to begin with, and we are denied eternal life.
"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it." Luke 9:24, Matt 16.25, Mark 8:35, Luke 17:33
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:
and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Which I interpret as conferring on Peter the authority that Jesus holds - the power of God. I find this troubling.
Why is the Trintarian so bad ?
It distorts the very Character of God .
It's actually another gospel .
So when Jesus says when the door is closed and they shut out . I never knew you , evil workers he called them .
How can you support a doctrine not found in the Scriptures and many people suffered from it ? Even death .
It s devils doctrine , and yes most find it confusing, that's the nature of the devil confusion.
:)
Carleton
Matthew 13:14-15 - And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall NOT PERCEIVE.
Proverbs 28:13-14 - He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them, shall have mercy.
Hebrews 3:8 - Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Mark 8:17 - And when Jesus knew [it], he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
Exodus 9:12 - And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.
Exodus 7:3 - And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.
Jeremiah 17:9 - The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
John 12:48 - He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Mishael : It takes Spiritual Warfare to free a person to hear Gods Word. See sermons on YouTube, about that. See Ephesians 6. Don't let the devil scare you. He knows Jesus stripped him of his authority to steal souls. Watch some Charles Capps videos too so you will understand your authority through the Blood of Jesus.
How is Jesus God?
God is God.
Jesus is the SON of God.
When Jesus called His Father "God" He was referring to Psalms 22, which He was teaching to the people present there. He was not complaining.
Jesus was NEVER forsaken by God.
What do we do with all Scripture that speaks of BOTH the Father and the Son? Matthew 11:27, 16:27, Mark 8:38, 13:32, Luke 1:32, John 3:35, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 1:5, 1 John 4:14, etc. etc. etc.)
Scripture does not say "In the name of the Father, the Father, and the Holy Ghost." Matthew 28:19
I gave him all I had ever been or done; all the memories of sin that hurt like a crown of thorns. Maybe it was faith but I asked Him to erase all the memories of sin from me. He did it. Those memories are just gone. Who I had been, was buried.
I had to learn new things, like the joy of my Salvation.
In my experience, the Holy Spirit is not an authoritarian that frowns when we miss the mark, Don't learn faster, don't look like other Christians that seem to have it all figured out. That's not Him. If we give all our preconceived perceptions of Him, TO HIM; He gives us the new Life of a beloved child of God. You can have as much of heaven, NOW, as you give yourself freedom to take. "Taste and see the Goodness of the Lord." YOU are why He went to the Cross. He looked all the way forward 2000 years and saw your face.
Give Him your life (alpha, omega), and you take His Life .... as in cutting a covenant.
Then as His Bride, Song of Solomon 6:3, 7-10; Isaiah 49:14-18, 22:-26, I am the Lord: they shall not be ashamed that wait for Me!
There is no gender in this thought. He is YOUR beloved.
Draw closer to Him and He will draw closer to you. You can have as much love as you are able to hold.
A time to mourn; a time to dance. Selah.