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  • Jay on Mark 14 - 12 years ago
    @Kini.toloa,
    On verse 70- fear is the first reason why most people lie, but I am not so sure that fear was the main motivating factor for Peter.
    1. Peter is the one who drew his sword and cut off the servant�s ear in Gethsemane ( John 18:10);
    2. Peter and the other apostles did not really understand Jesus as saviour, but was trying to assist Jesus in bringing in the kingdom of heaven where he will be king;
    3. They did not comprehend the kingdom of God (church age), 1 Peter 1:10-12;
    4. So when Jesus was arrested all the apostles abandoned him, except John (type of the church) and went back to fishing;
    5. The reason I believe Peter denied Jesus when approached, was shame and confusion on what was really happening, but Jesus was able to help get Peter back on track in John 21:15-17, Romans 1:16.
  • David Boyce on John 21 - 12 years ago
    John 21:18, although the King James version of this verse is hard to understand, if you use more modern bibles you will see this is about the crucifixion of Saint Peter. He was crucified in June 6th month of 66AD on Vatican Hill by a Mithra temple and a nearby pyramid and Peter was crucified by Nero. This John 21:18 was written to match the next triangular number in the bible of Revelation 13:18-666 after John 21:11-153 fish 153. 153+666 = 819 and is linked to John 21:18,19. The number 21 is 7+7+7 and is part of the 7 seals of the Book of Revelation. The Book of Revelation is written around the Book of Ezekiel and Ezekiel means 'to fasten to' or 'Holdfast'. Revelation 21:18,19 contains the word 'WALL' to lead you to the 14 Premiere of Sask. Bradley John Wall-Tami Kildaw code which is completed on 11 24 2012 when Brad turns 47. Nostradamus used this Wall code when he had himself buried in a WALL when he died. Holdfast Sask. Roman Catholic Church spire is found in 6:12 Quatrain and creates an end of time map where the bible ends on 12 21 2012 and he uses many other towns in the surrounding area and about 70% of His Lost Book paintings are about the Old Templar Biblical Code. What does it mean? Jesus was crucified in March the 3rd month of 33AD and Peter's crucifixion is double that of June 6th month of 66AD. Revelation 13:18 is about Rome, however Jesus was born on 66.6 when you add the Latitude + Longitude of Bethlehem together and 66.6 is Lat. + Long. The area of Jerusalem where Jesus was crucified in March 3rd month of 33AD and was 39 and 6 months old and would be 40 years old on October 9th of 33AD. Historical books written about Saint Peter show he was in England in the spring of 66 AD with his wife and daughter as Jesus lived in Somerset England near Glastonbury Tor. After Peter died in 66AD, Jesus took his remains and had them buried in Jerusalem and Saint Peter's remains were found in 1953 by two monks who wrote a book about it. In late 66AD Jesus was involved in the beginnings of the Jewish rebellion of 66AD in which the first people to die were those who murdered his brother Jacob which was changed in early English to James the Just. This resulted in the sacking of the Second Temple of Solomon as Jesus made references to it's destruction. Jesus later in 66AD headed north into the area of the 7 churches of the Book of Revelation in what is now Turkey and he is giving us a warning. It was the Council of Nicea after 325AD in this area of these 7 churches of the Book of Revelation where the Roman Catholic religion started based on a fictional Jesus Christ of Nazareth, an unmarried carpenter. Nazareth never existed in Israel until after 350AD. Revelation 21 was based on the end part of the Book of Ezekiel, Holdfast Sask. Over a thousand years ago church clergy from Europe such as the Culdee monks would come to this area of Sask. And they later formed the Mandan Tribe who spoke Brythonic. The Burial mounds of Manitoba-Rev. George Bryce will lead you to the Culdee monks who were using the triangular number 153 for the area of 51 Lat. and 105.3 Long. Many of the Culdee monks descended from King David and Jesus Christ and had to flee Ireland around 1170AD or be massacred by the Normans who were backed by the Vatican. I am a historical archeologist and many archeologists know this history.
  • David Boyce on John 21 - 12 years ago
    John 21:11 says 153 Fishes was derived from Genesis 1:26 where fish first appears in the bible and was the sign of the first follower's of Christ when the New Testament was written. The triangular number 153 has 17 on three sides. 17x9=153, 17 in ancient languages is 7 and 10. Jesus was born in 7 BC on October 9th.17+9=26. The Government of the US uses this date of October 9th for Leif Erickson Day.17+17+17=51,117x9=1053. King David was born in 1053BC and his final testament is found in 1 Kings 53 to 1 Kings 2:11 and this is why 21:11 was used by the writers of the Book of John. 51 Latitude and 105.3 Longitude matches Susan Dalton's remark of Holdfast on a modern day map of Holdfast Sask. Near 51 Latitude and 105.3 Longitude Ancient church clergy for centuries came to this part of North America knowing the Second Christ would be born in this area and many were buried around Last Mountain Lake. 217x9 = 1953{2 7 10 1953} In Genesis 1:26, cattle appears as this word was derived from the ancient Greek word 'Boys'. The miracle of John 6:9 Boy who gives Jesus 2 fishes and 5 loaves of bread is part of the ancient Templar Code, 69 is the ancient sign of cancer. The birth of the boy is found in Revelation 12:5, 7 heads and 10 horns are Roman emperors and kings, one of them being Julius Caesar which July was named from.
  • Terri simmons on John 21:18 - 12 years ago
    John 21:18 How Peter will Glorify God in his death. That the holy spirit will take over, his spirit (engulf him). The word girdedth mean to surround, for Peter will be walking in his present, and God will take charge over him. It would not be Peter walking but the holy spirit in him. This will only happen when Peter becomes mature, and not still young in Christ. Then he will be able to give his life for Christ, to witness to the Jews.
  • Emmanuel on John 21:21 - 12 years ago
    It is referring to Judas! he did not immediately committed suicide. Christ knows all thing. Judas was still alive at that time of this verse. it was after 8 days(jn20:26) Christ was concerned with life not death because satan entered judas and hebrews chpt 2 states satan is death.
  • Daryl on John 21:15 - 12 years ago
    Peter was commissioned by Christ to feed His Lambs. This is what the Lord shared with me. The Lambs are the immediate followers of Christ (Apostles). The sheep are the Jews first and the Gentiles Second. John the Baptist said of Christ behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world. God has his lamb Christ for sin. Christ has His lambs for the establishing of the church. Reading threw John 21 Christ signified of the death of the Apostles. All of the Apostles were martyred for the Church. The first set of sheep are the Jews for the Gospel goes to the Jews first then to the Gentiles. This is revealed in the book of Acts.
  • Timothy Wayne George on John 21:15 - 12 years ago
    This verse makes us all ponder the question that Jesus ask Peter" Lovest thou me more than these?" Peter had boasted though all men will forsake thee, I will never forsake thee, but he failed. All of our failures can be traced to this question about love for the Lord more than these. As Peter answered thou know that I love thee because only the Lord knows our heart. We must search our heart daily, and make sure that nothing comes between our love for the Lord. Just as Jesus restores Peter, then he restores us when we confess our love for him more than these.
  • Andre on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Garry, I read your initial post this morning and my heart is really touched. I too can say that for a long time I was bound in a situation that I thought that there was deliverance from. Many times I wanted to give up, but I am encouraging you to fight the good fight of faith. I got my deliverance. Jesus is greater than your problems and His forgiveness flows deeper than the condemnation of the heart. I will be praying for you also, that you will get your deliverance.
  • Susan Dalton on John 21:18 - 13 years ago
    "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkest whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee whither thou wouldest not." ( John 21:18)

    Karl von Clausewitz said, "During an operation, decisions have usually to be make at once; there may be no time to review the situation or even to think it through.... If the mind is to emerge unscathed from the relentless struggle with the unforeseen, two qualities are indispensable: First, an intellect that, even in the darkest hour, retains some glimmerings of the inner light [commander's vision] which leads to truth; and second, the courage to follow this faint light wherever it may lead."

    In the dark hour, hold fast to Jesus' word and follow wherever He may lead.
  • Mitzi on John 21 - 13 years ago
    How Awesome,Wonderful,Loving and Caring is our Lord. As He showed in this chapter John 21, that he is our provider. I thank God for His goodness and Miracle Working Power. As He did then, He will do now, for He does not change. He is the same today, yesterday and forever. Just ask, believe and receive according to his will. God Bless Everyone.
  • Susan Dalton on 2 Corinthians 4 - 13 years ago
    "For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh." ( II Corinthians 4:11)

    Some may ask why some believers seem to have so many trials and afflictions. Some may erroneously
    say the person has sin in their life and they are being chastised.

    Paul says we which live are always delivered unto death.

    We are always delivered unto death for...for what reason? That the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

    Death is seen so that the life of Jesus also may be seen.

    II Corinthians 2:14 says, "Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place."

    The "savour of his knowledge" is made manifest by us. God uses us to manifest the savour of his knowledge. What a priviledge that he uses us. That savour is victory over death. We can always triumph over death, hell, powers, principalities, etc. in Christ. The savour of God's knowledge is manifested by us in every place. Wherever we are, if we are delivered unto death, we are the ones God has chosen to manifest the savour of his knowledge in that place.

    I think of God looking down upon earth and seeing all things, sees what place needs a savour of his knowledge. And then he sends one of his into that place. He then allows them to go unto death. In death, now the life of Christ is seen. There is now manifested the savour of God's knowledge in that place.

    God makes manifest the savour of his knowledge "by us" "in every place."

    What a mind blowing thought, God manifests this savour of his knowledge "by us." And not only "by us," but he does this "in every place."

    We have victory because of Christ. On our side what gives us victory? Love is one. When you love, you don't want anything to break that bond. Truth is another, but love is what bonds it. You don't want to go against truth - because you love the truth, and because you love The Truth. You love the One who is Truth. Another is wisdom, you know anything against truth is death. You don't want death, you want to abide in life. Another is service, you don't want to not be the "by us" "in every place." That's love also, because you love God's service. Another is knowledge, you don't want to be joined to the power of the enemy, and lose the only power you have against it - power in Christ.

    After Jesus rose from the dead, he spoke to Simon Peter. He said to him, "Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?" ( John 21:15)

    Jesus said, "...son of Jonas..." We have no power to be victorious apart from Jesus Christ. Our fleshly nature, the son of man nature, the son of Jonas nature, the old man, the old nature, the nature we inherit from our parents, cannot give us victory; only by the Spirit of Christ can we be victorious.

    "Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place."
  • Garry on John 21 - 13 years ago
    I must say that it is kind that people will take such time not only to express their thoughts, but take the time to even consider a prayer. I know that someone is praying and it may be the prayers of intervention that God hears. I appreciate your prayers and also I have a promising job interview next week. God knows I need this job. If I get this it will be his work clearly. All appears to be working in my favor and I must hold fast to his word and believe that if he can care for the birds�he can/will surely take care of me. Its challenging and I understand that thoughts of doubt will enter my mind, but I am reminding myself to be strong and hold fast to my faith, for what God has for me will be given at his appointed time. Dear God you know I need you more than ever right now.
  • Ben weaver on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Dear Gary; Previous responses have explained John 21 so well. I also am praying for more of our Lord's light in your experience. I am convinced that an active believing, receiving, and applying of God's grace is sometimes the key to more fully experience His goodness. When one finds a Bible promise or statement intended for believers in Jesus, lets place ourselves into it, saying "I receive that for mine", reread it, placing ourself into it, thank the Master for fulfilling his promise in us personally. As for blaming ourselves; lets also receive his cleansing that has already been paid for and is available now. 1 John 1:9, Romans 8:1-2, Ephesians 6:10-18, and many more. Jesus is the light of the world and abundance of life is available in Him for receiving and applying. May our Lord's grace and peace be unto you.
  • Mary on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Garry, I am praying that yur situation change, But remember its on Gods time to change,not ours we want thimgs to come right now, But God knows whats best for us and your not alone he i s still there with you always, he will never leave u or forsake you,Just remember God Luvs you no matter what the circumstances are,Be Blessed and may God Continue 2 Bless you In your life, I was compelled 2 wrire u back, Cause i know my life is heckit also but i know in Gods time every thing gonna work out for those who luvs the Lord, see u later ;D
  • Garry on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Joyce, Mary, and Trent. I often think why do people post things, but its the very reason that such can be a blessings because its moments when you may not be able to talk with someone that is close or anyone at all. I am greatful to your time and words that you chose to share with me. I do believe that God can make a way...I am just unsure if he will do it for me. I had to be honest with myself and ask what seeds have I planted and this very well could be my harvest. I have not been a bad person, but I have lied, and did somethings that I am not proud of to survive. I have also attempted to make good on my wrong, but it was planted. Someone once shared with me that God can leave you right in your mess to deal with it alone. I think I am there. When we are down and out we want and expect God to rescue us, but many of us...well I had to remember the choices that I made, and now the reactions I must deal with. I am beaten, broken, but I still have breath, and although I have thought of ending it all there is something that tells me to press forward, so with that I say a prayer and each day I awake I ask God to let this be the day that the chains break and doors open for me. If he has not left me, I pray that he gives me the strength to endure and the mindset to continue on.
  • Garry on John 21 - 13 years ago
    My appreciation Mary regarding your words of encouragement. Be still... I keep hearing that...
  • Joyce on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Garry,Satan loves to make us doubt, it's his job and he's good at it, but he's also the master of lies, don't give up, this is when you need to square your shoulders back stand up and tell him it doesn't matter what I "feel" I'm gonna trust God anyway.Lovingly Joyce.
  • Trent on John 21 - 13 years ago
    Hi Garry, thank you for sharing. We're praying for you and it has generated discussion on Facebook. To see it, click the link at the bottom of this page that says 'Read the Bible on Facebook' and you'll see. Please keep it up and keep trying. You aren't alone.
  • Mary on John 21 - 13 years ago
    In response to Garry, Im praying that God will reveal to u what u are looking for,My understanding is Jesus showed up after his ressurection and the deciples didnt know it was him, Jesus comes too us and some times we dont reconize its him ,Just be patient Jesus will reveal what hes trying to tell you,Jesus Says Be Still and Know I am God, Be Patient and dontlose your faith ,Thats what the enemy wants you to do Wait on The Lord And Be Blessed What ever your Situation is ,Trust In Obey him and dont lose heart, Luv ya In Jesus Name my Brother ;D
  • Garry on John 21 - 13 years ago
    I awoke this moring looking for an answer to that which I have now spent almost 9 months seeking. I am tired and after reading this I was hoping someone had commented on this so that I would have a better understanding of his word because what I now doubt that I truly understand what God wants or is saying to me. I am lost, confused and its sad, but I am losing my faith and my body is becoming numb. I ask God is he prepring me for death, for I have lost everything and there appears to be no light in my dark tunnel called life. I don't blame anyone for my situation but me. I have begged God for mercy and Grace...maybe I am all out. Maybe God is not listening to me. I pray that he will show up in my life, for I can't contiunue to live this way. If you have a good personal relationship with God please pray for me...


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