It has been a good day. Jesus speaks to me and you.
John 21:14-17
14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon Peter, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he saith unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him. Feed my sheep.
I most enjoy having a personal discussion with another brother in Christ. As I also have a KJV Bible that I study the Word from. I don't see that what we are discussing as wasting time. No one person knows exactly how everything went at these times as I'm sure you know. Thank God we have the Gospels that were written. Although it is still limiting to everything that happened in detail. Though it is more than enough to save us. As John 21:25 states that "if everything which Jesus did were written even the world itself could not contain the books". Maybe looking at the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Some things are contained almost exact in one to another, some things differ a bit but you can tell it is of the same event, then there are some things that are unique to each book and are not in one another. I would hope that someone would not just pick one, say Matthew because it was the earliest, and say "this is the one I believe." We should read all of them and put them all together and we still only have a fraction of the Lord's journey.
To answer your question of: What Gospel did you believe to be saved? It was when I was reading the book of John. Very early of me reading the NT as I hadn't read it fully from the beginning yet as I was jumping around. What spoke to my heart was reading of Jesus giving His disciples the new commandment of "love one another" in John 13:34. Also in John 15. When I read this is when I knew Jesus Christ was the truth and from God. Through my whole life feeling, in my heart, that love is what really matters. Reading this was just amazing to me and almost like what I had always wanted to hear. This is when I gave myself to the Lord. Praise be to our Father and Jesus Christ for everything I/we have been led to.
Thank you for sharing what spoke to you, from the Holy Bible, that saved you.
I doubt if it was ever God's intention to have all aspects of history, both personal & political history, be revealed in His Holy Word. What He has provided for us is for a reason & for a season, so the things that are revealed may be useful for our knowledge & manner of living here on Earth. We would certainly love to know much more, as you say, to fill in the "gaps", but that is not required for now. There is also a certain exercise of trust & expectancy that comes when we simply have to admit that we don't have all the answers to our questions, but that God has & His only expectation of us is that we learn & live according to His revealed Word. He won't accuse anyone for ignorance when the Word doesn't reveal more information to us, but we stand before Him if we fail to obey what He has asked of us. And I believe there's plenty in the Word of God for us to learn from, revise in our hearts & fulfil in our lives.
And besides, is it even possible that everything be written about biblical people, places & events? Just of Jesus' Life, we read in John 21:25, "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written." How our hearts & minds yearn to know more about our Lord & Saviour, yet that earnest waiting & expectation can only grow in us as we await that great day when faith becomes sight & we behold the One Whom we love, but Who first loved us by giving us of Himself completely. The spirit of Word tells me that as we long to see Him & be with Him, is also Jesus' longing for His blood-bought bride to be at His Side throughout eternity. Let's not focus on what we might be missing out from the Word's 'limited history' revealed to us, but to delight in what God has chosen to show us now for our benefit, that also instils excitement of what is to come later, both in knowledge & experience.
If I'm understanding you correctly, the thieves that hung on their crosses at each side of Jesus, were hung & nailed in the 'proper manner', so to speak. There's no indication that their crucifixion was any different to the others. There is a tradition however, that the Apostle Peter was crucified upside down at his request, so that his crucifixion would not resemble his Lord's. But that is only tradition & not found in Scripture.
In John 21:18, Jesus told Peter, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not". Some have understood Jesus' prophecy of Peter that one day he would be taken as a prisoner & eventually crucified. We can't be certain that is what is meant. Whatever the case, it is of praise to the Lord that all His servants, the apostles, were willing to lay down their lives for Jesus, as Jesus had done for them. That should be cause of much searching of our own hearts in our love & commitment to our wonderful Saviour.
Perhaps when a person is so in love with the Lord Jesus Christ he does not even notice big events in the material world. Let us also have such a longing for Christ that we would not even notice if someone in front of you pulled out a knife and held it to your throat. We could look at the guy and say "God bless you dear one" and not even feel the touch of the steel.
The Harmony of the Gospels - In Reply on John 21 - 4 years ago
All the Disciples saw the same events simultaneously, and wrote of it from their point of view; with their differing backgrounds, occupations, all those things that make us individuals. Apostle Paul too.
That's why they are sometimes called The Harmony of the Gospels. That's what makes them so relevant and in agreement. We are able to witness what New Testament Church is supposed to be like. This the Church Jesus went to the Cross for. From one group of 12, to the whole world!
Let us remember that when we feel all alone, picking up our cross every day. We are many!!!
The only references we have on Peter's end of life is in John 21:18, 19: Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me."
And, 2 Peter 1:14: "Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me."
Church tradition claims that Peter was crucified upside down as he didn't want his crucifixion to resemble the Lord's. This thought developed from Jesus' Words to Him about his hands (arms) being stretched out, but that seems a long stretch of the imagination. He was crucified in Rome & he knew that time was fast approaching but we get no more details in the Bible. You may have seen that quote in some extra-biblical source.
We understand the the apostle Peter died by martyrdom during Emperor's Nero's reign & persecution of Christians. This was approx 67 or 68 AD. His death was also confirmation to what Jesus had told him in John 21:18, 19:
"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me." And, 2 Peter 1:14, where Peter himself spoke of his upcoming death: "Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me."
We are not told how Peter died, though tradition says that he was crucified like His Saviour, but elected to be hung upside down so as not to resemble Jesus' crucifixion. An early Church father & theologian, Origen, said: "Peter felt himself to be unworthy to be put to death in the same manner as his Master". However, there is no certainty on the manner of his death. And the place of his martyrdom is also said to be in Rome, where the apostle Paul was also martyred by beheading.
Thank you for your question. Genesis 1:26-31, Genesis 2:4,
Genesis 5:3-4,
Look closely it only mentioned "Seth in his image, likeness of Adam" Luke 3: * Luke 3:38 *
John 21:25 , Hebrew 11:32 if scripture talks about not being able to contain acts in books or even our own time on this earth; then why would we believe it could?
It's been pointed out to me that scripture was written to expose the Messiah, Saviour of the world. 1 Corinthian 15:45-47
Verily I say unto you ... - To encourage them, he assured them that, though his kingdom was now obscure and despised - though he was cast out and little known - yet the time was near when he would be regarded in a different manner, and his kingdom be established with great power.
This cannot refer to the end of the world, and there is no need of referring it to the destruction of Jerusalem.
Taste of death - That is, die. Before they die they shall see this.
Son of man coming in his kingdom - Mark and Luke have explained this: Mark 9:1, "Until they have seen the kingdom of God come with power;" Luke 9:27, "Till they see the kingdom of God." The meaning evidently is, "till they shall see my kingdom," i. e., my church, now small, feeble, and despised, greatly enlarged, established, and spreading with great rapidity and extent. All this was accomplished. All these apostles, except Judas, lived to see the wonders of the day of Pentecost; some of them, John particularly, saw the Jewish nation scattered, the temple destroyed, the gospel established in Asia, Rome, Greece, and in a large part of the known world.
This commentary better describes what this scripture realistically means. These things happened before all the disciples (except John) had been killed.
I believe the Lord granted me understanding of this passage recently. I did not notice it for a long time - the apostle John, did indeed, "tarry" in the flesh until Jesus came to him to give him the Revelation. Our God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is blessed forever!
Jesus asked Peter three times because He was restoring Peter through forgiveness for the purpose of sending him forward with a renewed spirit revealing to him what is important in discipleship and strengthening him.
Peace and Love of Christ be with you. Yes. A couple of times in John. John 20:30. And one of my favorite verses: John 21:25. ...the world itself could not contain the books that should be written... Lord, I love You!
Before He was crucified, Jesus did miracles so people would believe He was who He said He was. After the resurrection Jesus was a walking miracle. There was nothing left for Him to prove. Now the miracles would be done by His followers through the Holy Spirit.
Weird, but last night I was reading blessings of obedience and penalties of disobedience: Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28. I'm wondering if God is trying to get our attention to come back to Him, in America? Pastor Chuck Swindoll preached the same thing on the radio today. In Genesis 12:1-3 speaking of Israel, that God will bless THEM that bless thee; and curse him that curseth thee'. I think USA has blessed Israel despite Politicians that want stop helping them. It makes sense to go with blessings as opposed to disobedience. Just because it's Old Testament is no reason discount the direction our nation has been going for decades. People are running about hoarding every day and nome of them praying? There's going to be none of that kind of acts in Heaven. We're supposed to be renewing our minds on the Bible, every day, so we can be more like Jesus! It's not funny when the devil has everyone driving around to find toilet paper and stuff. :(
How about when he ate food. What about when He let Thomas touch Him and put his hand into His side. He did in fact give the increase of miraculous catch of fish.John chapter 21. Christ also has breakfast waiting for them. Great question ,how often we forget to remind ourselves of who Christ is after his resurrection from the dead. Can you imagine the joy they experienced when they were with Him by the sea. The same place they were called is the same place Christ leaves them. I will always try and reflect on these times in the hour of temptation. Knowing that He is alive and in control!
In verse 14 scripture states that this was the third time that Jesus showed himself to the disciples . Does the Bible say where he was at all of the rest of the time that he walked the Earth after his Resurection Did he do any miracles.
Verses 15-17. Pay great attention to Jesus' questions to Simon Son of John. Two times Jesus asked Simon "Do you love "Agape" me? Each time Simon responded Yes Lord I "Phileo" you. He couldn't understand that Jesus meant agape. The third time Jesus came down down to Simon's low level of understanding of love. Jesus then asked him Do you "phileo" me?
We must listen well in the spirit to understand what God is saying to us.
John 21:14-17
14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon Peter, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he saith unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him. Feed my sheep.
I most enjoy having a personal discussion with another brother in Christ. As I also have a KJV Bible that I study the Word from. I don't see that what we are discussing as wasting time. No one person knows exactly how everything went at these times as I'm sure you know. Thank God we have the Gospels that were written. Although it is still limiting to everything that happened in detail. Though it is more than enough to save us. As John 21:25 states that "if everything which Jesus did were written even the world itself could not contain the books". Maybe looking at the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Some things are contained almost exact in one to another, some things differ a bit but you can tell it is of the same event, then there are some things that are unique to each book and are not in one another. I would hope that someone would not just pick one, say Matthew because it was the earliest, and say "this is the one I believe." We should read all of them and put them all together and we still only have a fraction of the Lord's journey.
To answer your question of: What Gospel did you believe to be saved? It was when I was reading the book of John. Very early of me reading the NT as I hadn't read it fully from the beginning yet as I was jumping around. What spoke to my heart was reading of Jesus giving His disciples the new commandment of "love one another" in John 13:34. Also in John 15. When I read this is when I knew Jesus Christ was the truth and from God. Through my whole life feeling, in my heart, that love is what really matters. Reading this was just amazing to me and almost like what I had always wanted to hear. This is when I gave myself to the Lord. Praise be to our Father and Jesus Christ for everything I/we have been led to.
Thank you for sharing what spoke to you, from the Holy Bible, that saved you.
And besides, is it even possible that everything be written about biblical people, places & events? Just of Jesus' Life, we read in John 21:25, "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written." How our hearts & minds yearn to know more about our Lord & Saviour, yet that earnest waiting & expectation can only grow in us as we await that great day when faith becomes sight & we behold the One Whom we love, but Who first loved us by giving us of Himself completely. The spirit of Word tells me that as we long to see Him & be with Him, is also Jesus' longing for His blood-bought bride to be at His Side throughout eternity. Let's not focus on what we might be missing out from the Word's 'limited history' revealed to us, but to delight in what God has chosen to show us now for our benefit, that also instils excitement of what is to come later, both in knowledge & experience.
In John 21:18, Jesus told Peter, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not". Some have understood Jesus' prophecy of Peter that one day he would be taken as a prisoner & eventually crucified. We can't be certain that is what is meant. Whatever the case, it is of praise to the Lord that all His servants, the apostles, were willing to lay down their lives for Jesus, as Jesus had done for them. That should be cause of much searching of our own hearts in our love & commitment to our wonderful Saviour.
23 But foolish and unlearned questions AVOID, knowing that they do gender strifes.
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
My Comment: We try patiently to show in scripture; commentaries by scholars; and our own testimonies: to answer questions that are brought to us.
We are answering the call in John 21:15-17.
Feed my Sheep. Feed my Lambs.
Ephesians 4:11
That's what we do, despite the accusations and opposition. Jesus did not say, go ye and persecute the Body of Christ.
Mishael
Perhaps when a person is so in love with the Lord Jesus Christ he does not even notice big events in the material world. Let us also have such a longing for Christ that we would not even notice if someone in front of you pulled out a knife and held it to your throat. We could look at the guy and say "God bless you dear one" and not even feel the touch of the steel.
Hallelujah!
That's why they are sometimes called The Harmony of the Gospels. That's what makes them so relevant and in agreement. We are able to witness what New Testament Church is supposed to be like. This the Church Jesus went to the Cross for. From one group of 12, to the whole world!
Let us remember that when we feel all alone, picking up our cross every day. We are many!!!
Mishael
And, 2 Peter 1:14: "Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me."
Church tradition claims that Peter was crucified upside down as he didn't want his crucifixion to resemble the Lord's. This thought developed from Jesus' Words to Him about his hands (arms) being stretched out, but that seems a long stretch of the imagination. He was crucified in Rome & he knew that time was fast approaching but we get no more details in the Bible. You may have seen that quote in some extra-biblical source.
"Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me." And, 2 Peter 1:14, where Peter himself spoke of his upcoming death: "Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me."
We are not told how Peter died, though tradition says that he was crucified like His Saviour, but elected to be hung upside down so as not to resemble Jesus' crucifixion. An early Church father & theologian, Origen, said: "Peter felt himself to be unworthy to be put to death in the same manner as his Master". However, there is no certainty on the manner of his death. And the place of his martyrdom is also said to be in Rome, where the apostle Paul was also martyred by beheading.
Genesis 5:3-4,
Look closely it only mentioned "Seth in his image, likeness of Adam" Luke 3: * Luke 3:38 *
John 21:25 , Hebrew 11:32 if scripture talks about not being able to contain acts in books or even our own time on this earth; then why would we believe it could?
It's been pointed out to me that scripture was written to expose the Messiah, Saviour of the world. 1 Corinthian 15:45-47
Verily I say unto you ... - To encourage them, he assured them that, though his kingdom was now obscure and despised - though he was cast out and little known - yet the time was near when he would be regarded in a different manner, and his kingdom be established with great power.
This cannot refer to the end of the world, and there is no need of referring it to the destruction of Jerusalem.
Taste of death - That is, die. Before they die they shall see this.
Son of man coming in his kingdom - Mark and Luke have explained this: Mark 9:1, "Until they have seen the kingdom of God come with power;" Luke 9:27, "Till they see the kingdom of God." The meaning evidently is, "till they shall see my kingdom," i. e., my church, now small, feeble, and despised, greatly enlarged, established, and spreading with great rapidity and extent. All this was accomplished. All these apostles, except Judas, lived to see the wonders of the day of Pentecost; some of them, John particularly, saw the Jewish nation scattered, the temple destroyed, the gospel established in Asia, Rome, Greece, and in a large part of the known world.
This commentary better describes what this scripture realistically means. These things happened before all the disciples (except John) had been killed.
Genesis 37:4
Genesis 37:5
Genesis 37:6
Genesis 37:8
Genesis 37:9
Genesis 40:8
Genesis 41:11-13
Genesis 41:15
Genesis 45:5
Psalm 37
Jeremiah 23:32
Mark 16:19
Additional
Psalm 22
Prophetic of Jesus
Hope that's helpful
What is the significance of the number of fish caught in the net: 153.?
Hebrews 11:32,
John 21:25
Lets listen to praise music more.
We must listen well in the spirit to understand what God is saying to us.