Thank you Adam , I have no problem obeying Jesus , he is my Redeemer and the Son of God , he spoke the words that God gave him to speak and God has given him all power and authority .
Hello, John chapter 1 explains and answers all these questions:
John 1:14-15 reveals that Jesus is called the "Word."
John 1:1 says "Word was with God, and the Word was God." this means that Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.
John 1:3 says "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This means that all things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus nothing was made.
The common misunderstanding is that Jesus temporarily came to earth and while fully God, became fully man and appeared to allow Himself to be limited as a man. So, most people analyze His behavior as a temporary man and draw assumptions from it: like how can He pray to Himself? etc.
John 1:9-10 - talks about Jesus, also called the "Light" coming to earth.
Philippians 2:6-7 - to me this means that Jesus wasn't concerned about His power being lessor or limited as a temporary man.
Luke 2:52 - Jesus put Himself in a position of a man to grow in wisdom and maturity.
So, all of your quotes are while Jesus was in a temporary limited state as a man on earth.
You wrote: "Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." It's not inconceivable because the Bible literally says Jesus created everything in John 1:3.
If this isn't convincing enough there are more verses saying the same thing:
I do not worship Jesus , I worship God , please point out where Jesus accepted worship . Jesus is now definately devine as he has been transfigured . I do not intend to get into a big debate about this with you or anyone else , please don't be offended , and please tell me where Jesus accepted worship , thank you .
You seem to be telling us that you deny the divinity of Jesus. Do you worship Jesus? If so, why, if He is not God. If not, then why did He accept worship?
Scripture tells us the unclean spirits/devils knew He was the Son of God, Matt. 8:29Mark 3:11Luke 8:27-28. Scripture tells us Jesus is the Son of God the only begotten of the Father, John 1:14. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was before this world John 17:52 Timothy 1:9. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was the beginning of creation Rev. 3:1. Scripture tells us everything was created through Him Col. 1:16.
Scripture tells us to confess Jesus is the Son of God, 1 John 4:15. Scripture tells us God gave His only begotten Son, John 3:16. Scripture tells us to believe God gave His only begotten Son, 1 John 5:10. Scripture tells us God was made known in the flesh through His only begotten Son same as creation was through His Son 1 Timothy 3:16Col. 1:16.
Scripture tells us we have salvation and eternal life only in Jesus Christ, John 3:36Acts 4:12Eph. 4:121 Thess. 5:91 John 5:13 Scripture tells us we can only come to the Father through Jesus, John 14:61 Timothy 2:5.
Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets and died for our sins, and the only way that could be done is in the flesh, the seed of Abraham, Hebrews 2. He experienced temptation the same as you and me, Luke 4:2Heb 2:18, He had a brain and a will, Luke 22:42 but He was obedient to the Father. We now have a high priest in heaven that lived in this flesh just like us, Hebrews 4:14-16.
Salvation and eternal life only by the grace of God through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ's perfect life in the flesh, His blood shed for us, and His resurrection. We cannot deny the divinity of Jesus, the only begotten Son of God that was before this world, but no creed, doctrine, or statement of faith can be placed above or added to that we must believe to receive salvation and eternal life if scripture does not tell us we must believe. Truth is in the simplicity that is in Christ.
I love this site and the brothers and sisters on it.
Hi Naseem , I believe that Jesus was filled with God's Holy Spirit without measure , to me , this does not make Jesus God but it does make him a vessel of God's Holy Spirit more than any other person who has had the Spirit of God in them , lots of people have had a measure of God's Holy Spirit , we read this all through the Bible , Jesus was filled to the brim , no one else was . Therefore Jesus is the embodiment , as much as any human could ever be , of God . To me , the Holy Spirit is The Spirit of God , it is His , it is awesome and pure , very different from our human nature . I hope I have explained myself ok . I know that lots of people on here are going to give you a very different answer , my advice ? Read , then re read then re read again , the whole Bible and make your own mind up . Good hunting .
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20*
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]
{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.
May these verses help to shine some light for you to understand that Jesus is in fact God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Here Jesus is speaking to the Apostle John in Revelation 22:13
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
There are three (3) entities in the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Many people struggle with trying to understand this unique and very special relationship.
John 20.29 This particular verse reaffirms the belief that Blessed are those who believe in an unseen God.
Lord does not mean God. If Thomas said that to Jesus in the previous verse, it should be taken in metaphorical sense and not actual. I cannot accept Jesus as Son of God nor God for the following reason .1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus' will is likewise autonomous from God's Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God's will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, "by myself, I can do nothing." This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to "please myself" but rather is seeking to "please the one who sent me."
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn't pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!"
Hi Ruth. Genesis chapter 1 to Genesis 2:2, tell us that God was involved in His Creative Work over a six day period. And on the following day, He "rested from all his work that he had made". Since there were no days of the week named, as we have now (Sunday, Monday, etc.), the indication was that God worked on the first six days & on the seventh day, His work stopped. So, according to our calendar, Sunday is the first day of the week (even as we see in Acts 20:7; John 20:1), therefore Saturday becomes the seventh day, or the Jewish Sabbath Day (i.e. from Friday evening to Saturday evening).
Sons of GOD : Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Revelation 12:10, John 1:12 "But as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on his name:"
Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD."
Philippians 2:15 "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world."
1John 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."
Matthew 5:16, Luke 8:19, Matthew 23:9, John 20:17, John 4:23, John 16:28, Matthew 6:7-34 did you notice how many times GOD is referenced as "our, your Father " in that portion of chapter 6? Matthew 7:11,
Dear Ginia, Peace what you describe is on the devil, he doesn't look after himself, does he? Job 40 and 41 chapter.
I think You will need to read this and the referrals several times. I myself have heard a useful sermon from Derek Prince, about the enemies we meet. On youtube, Useful information and learning.
Be blessed in the name of Jesus and know that everything is easy on the path of light. Jesus Loves You, i love u in Christ.
The Bible literally refers to God as Godhead, so the few who are uncomfortable with that term can simply use the word Godhead instead. There's a mountain of scriptures showing the dynamic and divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. We're here to defend Jesus Christ and anyone trying to discredit or smear His divinity. We should all pray for wisdom, understanding and truth as we read the scriptures so that we are not mislead by the enemy and buy into things that merely fulfill our itching ears.
I am fascinated by the stories in books and on TV of Mary Magdalene. So many details about her life with Jesus, but in my search, she only appears 11 times in the NT.
The first is Matthew 27:56 when Jesus is dying on the cross. The last is St. John 20:18 after His rise when she tells the Disciples what He said to her.
Where do all these stories about the lives of her and Jesus before the Cross come from?
I agree Mishael, that the Word is silent on what took place in that short time after Jesus' Ascension & then return to Earth. The matter in 1 Peter 3:18-20 is often taken as an event during that time, though I see the emphasis in this passage on the Spirit, i.e. Jesus was made alive from the dead by the Spirit and it was by this self-same Spirit that Jesus went to preach to the imprisoned spirits of evil men from Noah's day. Of course, when this took place can be debated.
Assuming then that Jesus went into His Father's Presence after His Resurrection ( John 20:17), the question arises, 'for what purpose?' Again, there's room for speculation & debate, though without clear Scripture, my sense was that the whole period of His Crucifixion, agony in death, burial & resurrection, was a time of great silence in Heaven & waiting anticipation for all that would transpire. The Father Himself chose silence & I can see that the whole host of Heaven were in 'bated breath' awaiting that glorious instance of life from the dead of the Son of God. Then if that be the case, Jesus' Ascension demanded a victory celebration as He entered Heaven's portals as the Victor. A victory over death, over sin's deathly grip, over the limitations of the Old Covenant of Law & assurance of the Covenant of Grace through His Blood, over all satanic endeavours as Jesus takes up His Position (after Acts 1:9) at the Father's right Hand, ever living to make intercession of His blood-bought (through His High Priestly role).
Even as the high priests of old placed themselves between God & the people (during their short life span), offering sacrifices that would withhold God's Anger, so Jesus, in the order of Melchisedek & not Aaron, 'continues forever, having an unchangeable priesthood' ( Hebrews 7:23,24), displaying the marks of His Own Sacrifice on His Body, qualifying Him to be our High Priest forever interceding for us before the Father. Blessings brother in your pursuits.
Hello brother. I wouldn't be able to help with this passage (especially John 20:17) in Hebrew as you would need to find a Hebrew reader who has the 'whole' Bible in Hebrew & not just the 'Tanakh' (Old Testament portions). As you know, the NT was written in Greek, so to read it in Hebrew would require a Jew who has come to faith in Christ & reads the whole Bible in his native Hebrew.
But to John 20:17, brothers Jesse or Giannis would do better than me (for the Greek language), but my understanding of the verse is as follows: I don't interpret the prohibition placed by Jesus on Mary not to touch Him was anything to do with defiling Him. It seems that from Matthew 28:1-10 we learn two things:
a. when they met the Angel who told them that Jesus was risen from the dead, he also told them to "go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead". So, I see that there was an urgency to leave the area & give out this news. And on the way to meet with the disciples, they met Jesus.
b. when Jesus revealed Himself to them, they fell to their knees to "touch" (lit. to grab) his feet/ankles in worship ( Matthew 28:9). But John then describes that event ( John 20:17) & writes that Jesus said to them: "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." Again, that sense of urgency comes up; Jesus had arisen from the dead & was preparing for His Ascension. The Marys holding onto Jesus, to talk/worship Him & keep Him with them a little longer, would only delay this important journey to Heaven. So after this occasion with the ladies & His appearing that same evening on the Lord's Day, I must assume that Jesus went into His Father's Presence in the interim. Therefore, I can't assimilate the fact of Jesus' High Priestly position & the abstention to touch Him of being relevant here. Maybe the other brothers can add or refute my understanding of this event.
Scribes Pharisees Sadducees Tried To Stop Jesus Too - In Reply - 2 years ago
The Day of Pentecost AFTER Jesus ascended to heaven, visually.
About one hundred and twenty followers of Christ ( Acts 1:15) were present, including the Twelve Apostles (Matthias was Judas' replacement) ( Acts 1:13, 26), Jesus' mother Mary, other female disciples and his brothers ( Acts 1:14). JESUS had sisters. All filled with the Holy Spirit.
Women were also identified to be among the 120. Mary the mother of Jesus is mentioned by name. The wives of the apostles were there ( 1 Cor. 9:5 "Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?"). Each of the wives was a devout believer in Christ. Part of the number of women would be those mentioned in Luke 8:1-3. "And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, And Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance." See also Matt. 27:55-56; Luke 23:49,55. We would expect that the sisters of Jesus were also believers by this time, as His brothers had become. Jesus was much more inclusive of the women than were the scribes and PHARISEES. The women had accompanied Him as He went through every city and village. The very first person to announce the Risen Christ was Mary Magdalene ( John 20:11-18).
Mishael: taken from history recorded in Book of Acts; by the Disciples (Luke), and Jewish people. Paul had not been born again yet. After he was, he went to the wilderness to be taught by the Lord for 3 YEARS. Corinthians was not written down yet.
Women spread the Gospel too; house to house. Outside of the synagogues in their courtyards. That's what disciples do_spread the Good News. WORD of mouth, house to house.
Circular arguments on this topic remind me of an Abbott and Costello "who's on first" skit. In case anyone isn't aware, here are some scriptures describing one God with three components: father, son, and holy spirit. We likely will never 100% comprehend God nor should we expect to, but the fact is the Bible describes God as a triune Godhead, uses plural terms, says the three are "one", and I will trust God's Word over man's word. Christians will keep sharing the truth of the scriptures everytime someone tries to challenge God's word.
Godhead:
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
John 1:1
1 John 5:7-8
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Matthew 1:23-25
Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"
Guess no one has attempted to answer you yet-so I will say the easiest answer is BOTH. In addition to this; of course we have the Holy Spirit as part of the Godhead. The easiest way; I suppose to look at it is that the Godhead (Elohim as mentioned in Genesis 1) consists of all 3 members of the Trinity. There is perfect unity; but different functions for each member. Jesus was referred to as my Lord and my God in John 20:28 by "doubting" Thomas after viewing His wounds after the Resurrection. Clearly; God the Father had to remain untouched by sin so that the universe could be held together; for sin had to bring death to the Son as predetermined by the Father ( Isaiah 53:10). Christ had conversations with and prayed to the Father; so clearly this is an eternal past; present and future state with the exception of that brief moment at Calvary.
It seems that the Holy Spirit is misunderstood for His main role bringing conviction of sin righteousness and judgment to come ( John 16:8). There is no scripture where the "helper" ( John 14:26) is instructed to be worshipped. Instead; it strengthens the believer; as a small reflection of Christ who possessed the Spirit "without limit" or measure ( John 3:34).
Believers have quibbled as to verses that mention the Trinity and others only mentioning baptism in the name of Christ. We also need to understand the Christophenes or preincarnate appearances of Christ. No one has seen the Father according to Christ; surely the full glory of God would kill a man ( John 1:18; Exodus 33:18-20). The Spirit has only been described in a visible manifestation or accompanying sign once; in Acts at Pentecost. Jesus makes it clear that when the Comforter (i.e. Spirit) comes that WE shall dwell with him ( John 14:23). He is to ask the Father and He sends it ( John 14:16).
I suppose a a good read of John is appropriate on these matters! Even one member of the Godhead is beyond our puny minds to understand. Agape. Rich P
Verses of Jesus accepting worship:
John 20:28
Matthew 28:8-9
Mark 16:1
Matthew 2:11
Matthew 21:9
John 12:13
We are also to obey Jesus:
John 8:31
John 14:15
John 14:21-24
John 15:10-14
1 John 2:3
John 1:14-15 reveals that Jesus is called the "Word."
John 1:1 says "Word was with God, and the Word was God." this means that Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.
John 1:3 says "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This means that all things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus nothing was made.
The common misunderstanding is that Jesus temporarily came to earth and while fully God, became fully man and appeared to allow Himself to be limited as a man. So, most people analyze His behavior as a temporary man and draw assumptions from it: like how can He pray to Himself? etc.
John 1:9-10 - talks about Jesus, also called the "Light" coming to earth.
Philippians 2:6-7 - to me this means that Jesus wasn't concerned about His power being lessor or limited as a temporary man.
Luke 2:52 - Jesus put Himself in a position of a man to grow in wisdom and maturity.
So, all of your quotes are while Jesus was in a temporary limited state as a man on earth.
You wrote: "Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." It's not inconceivable because the Bible literally says Jesus created everything in John 1:3.
If this isn't convincing enough there are more verses saying the same thing:
Colossians 1:15-17
Hebrews 1:2
1 Corinthians 8:6
Jesus literally created you!
You seem to be telling us that you deny the divinity of Jesus. Do you worship Jesus? If so, why, if He is not God. If not, then why did He accept worship?
Scripture tells us the unclean spirits/devils knew He was the Son of God, Matt. 8:29 Mark 3:11 Luke 8:27-28. Scripture tells us Jesus is the Son of God the only begotten of the Father, John 1:14. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was before this world John 17:5 2 Timothy 1:9. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was the beginning of creation Rev. 3:1. Scripture tells us everything was created through Him Col. 1:16.
Scripture tells us to confess Jesus is the Son of God, 1 John 4:15. Scripture tells us God gave His only begotten Son, John 3:16. Scripture tells us to believe God gave His only begotten Son, 1 John 5:10. Scripture tells us God was made known in the flesh through His only begotten Son same as creation was through His Son 1 Timothy 3:16 Col. 1:16.
Scripture tells us we have salvation and eternal life only in Jesus Christ, John 3:36 Acts 4:12 Eph. 4:12 1 Thess. 5:9 1 John 5:13 Scripture tells us we can only come to the Father through Jesus, John 14:6 1 Timothy 2:5.
Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets and died for our sins, and the only way that could be done is in the flesh, the seed of Abraham, Hebrews 2. He experienced temptation the same as you and me, Luke 4:2 Heb 2:18, He had a brain and a will, Luke 22:42 but He was obedient to the Father. We now have a high priest in heaven that lived in this flesh just like us, Hebrews 4:14-16.
Salvation and eternal life only by the grace of God through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ's perfect life in the flesh, His blood shed for us, and His resurrection. We cannot deny the divinity of Jesus, the only begotten Son of God that was before this world, but no creed, doctrine, or statement of faith can be placed above or added to that we must believe to receive salvation and eternal life if scripture does not tell us we must believe. Truth is in the simplicity that is in Christ.
I love this site and the brothers and sisters on it.
God bless,
RLW
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20*
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]
{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.
Mishael
May these verses help to shine some light for you to understand that Jesus is in fact God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Here Jesus is speaking to the Apostle John in Revelation 22:13
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
There are three (3) entities in the Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Many people struggle with trying to understand this unique and very special relationship.
GB you
Lord does not mean God. If Thomas said that to Jesus in the previous verse, it should be taken in metaphorical sense and not actual. I cannot accept Jesus as Son of God nor God for the following reason .1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.
2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus' will is likewise autonomous from God's Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God's will.
3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.
4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, "by myself, I can do nothing." This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to "please myself" but rather is seeking to "please the one who sent me."
5. John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.
7. John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.
8. Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn't pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!"
9. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.
Space does not permit to write more.
For HE (the Father, Spirit, Life) performeth the thing that is appointed for me (the Body).......
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the Father, Spirit, Life) that worketh in you (the Body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY .....ONE SPIRIT .....
Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and Father of ALL .....
Not many BELIEVE that the LIFE in their BODY is CHRIST.
Matthew 7:14 Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, that leadeth unto LIFE, and few there be that find it.
John 10:10 .....I am come that they might HAVE LIFE ......
John 19:28 I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE ...
1 Timothy 6:18 WHO only (CHRIST ONLY) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT which no man can approach unto .....
John 11:25 I am the resurrection, and THE LIFE .....
John 14:6 ....I am THE LIFE .....
John 20:31 ....and that BELIEVING you might have LIFE through HIS NAME .....
Revelation 22:4 ....and HIS NAME shall be in their foreheads .....
Revelation 3:12 ...and I will write upon him MY NAME .....
Acts 2:38 ....be ye baptised every one of you IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST .....
John 17:21 That they all may be ONE, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also be ONE IN US ......
God Bless You.
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man out of the dust of the ground ....
Man, as well as all creatures, is only a body.
....and breathed into them the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
The soul, or body, has no life outside of the breath and life of God.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ in you ....
John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, Receive the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ .......
John 14:6 ....I am the life .....
God Bless You.
Jesus commanded Mary Magdalene to "...go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."
Every Easter, the message that Mary Magdalene dutifully delivered is proclaimed on billboards and Church marquees all across Christendom.
Similarly, God gave Blessed Mary a pretty important message to go tell on the Mountain...
Neither is there a "j" sound in greek? So how does Yeshua get translated Jesus ?
1 John 5:7-8
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Matthew 1:23-25
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
Isaiah 7:14
Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 44:6
Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD."
Philippians 2:15 "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world."
1John 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."
Matthew 5:16, Luke 8:19, Matthew 23:9, John 20:17, John 4:23, John 16:28, Matthew 6:7-34 did you notice how many times GOD is referenced as "our, your Father " in that portion of chapter 6? Matthew 7:11,
Mark 3:33-35,
1John 3, Romans 8:29,
Contrast = John 8:41-47, 1John 2:23, Matthew 3:9
Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
She wasn't alone.
Hopefully this is helpful
I think You will need to read this and the referrals several times. I myself have heard a useful sermon from Derek Prince, about the enemies we meet. On youtube, Useful information and learning.
Be blessed in the name of Jesus and know that everything is easy on the path of light. Jesus Loves You, i love u in Christ.
John 20:1-10
Here are some verses to get you started. God bless.
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
John 1:1
1 John 5:7-8
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Isaiah 7:14
Matthew 1:23-25
Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 44:6
John 1:1
1 John 5:7-8
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Isaiah 7:14
Matthew 1:23-25
Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 44:6
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
The first is Matthew 27:56 when Jesus is dying on the cross. The last is St. John 20:18 after His rise when she tells the Disciples what He said to her.
Where do all these stories about the lives of her and Jesus before the Cross come from?
Assuming then that Jesus went into His Father's Presence after His Resurrection ( John 20:17), the question arises, 'for what purpose?' Again, there's room for speculation & debate, though without clear Scripture, my sense was that the whole period of His Crucifixion, agony in death, burial & resurrection, was a time of great silence in Heaven & waiting anticipation for all that would transpire. The Father Himself chose silence & I can see that the whole host of Heaven were in 'bated breath' awaiting that glorious instance of life from the dead of the Son of God. Then if that be the case, Jesus' Ascension demanded a victory celebration as He entered Heaven's portals as the Victor. A victory over death, over sin's deathly grip, over the limitations of the Old Covenant of Law & assurance of the Covenant of Grace through His Blood, over all satanic endeavours as Jesus takes up His Position (after Acts 1:9) at the Father's right Hand, ever living to make intercession of His blood-bought (through His High Priestly role).
Even as the high priests of old placed themselves between God & the people (during their short life span), offering sacrifices that would withhold God's Anger, so Jesus, in the order of Melchisedek & not Aaron, 'continues forever, having an unchangeable priesthood' ( Hebrews 7:23,24), displaying the marks of His Own Sacrifice on His Body, qualifying Him to be our High Priest forever interceding for us before the Father. Blessings brother in your pursuits.
But to John 20:17, brothers Jesse or Giannis would do better than me (for the Greek language), but my understanding of the verse is as follows: I don't interpret the prohibition placed by Jesus on Mary not to touch Him was anything to do with defiling Him. It seems that from Matthew 28:1-10 we learn two things:
a. when they met the Angel who told them that Jesus was risen from the dead, he also told them to "go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead". So, I see that there was an urgency to leave the area & give out this news. And on the way to meet with the disciples, they met Jesus.
b. when Jesus revealed Himself to them, they fell to their knees to "touch" (lit. to grab) his feet/ankles in worship ( Matthew 28:9). But John then describes that event ( John 20:17) & writes that Jesus said to them: "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." Again, that sense of urgency comes up; Jesus had arisen from the dead & was preparing for His Ascension. The Marys holding onto Jesus, to talk/worship Him & keep Him with them a little longer, would only delay this important journey to Heaven. So after this occasion with the ladies & His appearing that same evening on the Lord's Day, I must assume that Jesus went into His Father's Presence in the interim. Therefore, I can't assimilate the fact of Jesus' High Priestly position & the abstention to touch Him of being relevant here. Maybe the other brothers can add or refute my understanding of this event.
About one hundred and twenty followers of Christ ( Acts 1:15) were present, including the Twelve Apostles (Matthias was Judas' replacement) ( Acts 1:13, 26), Jesus' mother Mary, other female disciples and his brothers ( Acts 1:14). JESUS had sisters. All filled with the Holy Spirit.
Women were also identified to be among the 120. Mary the mother of Jesus is mentioned by name. The wives of the apostles were there ( 1 Cor. 9:5 "Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?"). Each of the wives was a devout believer in Christ. Part of the number of women would be those mentioned in Luke 8:1-3. "And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, And Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance." See also Matt. 27:55-56; Luke 23:49,55. We would expect that the sisters of Jesus were also believers by this time, as His brothers had become. Jesus was much more inclusive of the women than were the scribes and PHARISEES. The women had accompanied Him as He went through every city and village. The very first person to announce the Risen Christ was Mary Magdalene ( John 20:11-18).
Mishael: taken from history recorded in Book of Acts; by the Disciples (Luke), and Jewish people. Paul had not been born again yet. After he was, he went to the wilderness to be taught by the Lord for 3 YEARS. Corinthians was not written down yet.
Women spread the Gospel too; house to house. Outside of the synagogues in their courtyards. That's what disciples do_spread the Good News. WORD of mouth, house to house.
Mishael
Godhead:
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:29
Romans 1:20
John 1:1
1 John 5:7-8
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Matthew 1:23-25
Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"
It seems that the Holy Spirit is misunderstood for His main role bringing conviction of sin righteousness and judgment to come ( John 16:8). There is no scripture where the "helper" ( John 14:26) is instructed to be worshipped. Instead; it strengthens the believer; as a small reflection of Christ who possessed the Spirit "without limit" or measure ( John 3:34).
Believers have quibbled as to verses that mention the Trinity and others only mentioning baptism in the name of Christ. We also need to understand the Christophenes or preincarnate appearances of Christ. No one has seen the Father according to Christ; surely the full glory of God would kill a man ( John 1:18; Exodus 33:18-20). The Spirit has only been described in a visible manifestation or accompanying sign once; in Acts at Pentecost. Jesus makes it clear that when the Comforter (i.e. Spirit) comes that WE shall dwell with him ( John 14:23). He is to ask the Father and He sends it ( John 14:16).
I suppose a a good read of John is appropriate on these matters! Even one member of the Godhead is beyond our puny minds to understand. Agape. Rich P