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  • Babu - 2 years ago
    Did resurrected Jesus have crucifixion scars on his body? [Ref: John 20:27]
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Skiman,

    They could be basing their claim on any one of the following pieces of scripture:

    John 1:1, John 1:14, John 8:24, John 8:58, John 10:30-33, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:5-8, Psalm 45:6.

    The Bible tells us that we are to worship God alone, and yet Jesus received worship and never rebuked anyone who worshipped Him. We see evidence of this in Matthew 2:2, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, John 9:35-38, Hebrews 1:6.

    Isaiah 44:6 reads, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me."

    In Rev 1:17, it says "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as a dead man." In Daniel 10:8-9, Daniel did the same thing. When he saw this vision of Christ, he fell down as he was dead. In Ezekiel 1:28, Ezekiel sees the vision and he falls down as a dead man. It goes on to say "Fear not; I am the first and the last: (the designation of God, found in Isaiah 41:4, and Isaiah 48:12).

    In Revelation 1:18, it says I am He that lives, and this is another designation of God found in Psalm 84:2, and Joshua 3:10.

    I am He that lives. God presents Himself to the Jews as the living God. He says I am He that lives, and was dead; literally, and became dead, and behold, I am living forevermore, His resurrection, His eternalness.

    And then it reads, Amen; and I have the keys of hell and of death. Keys are a symbol of authority. Those who were in charge of the temple had the keys to the temple. We are told later on that the Lord (Jesus) will be in control of hell and death.

    In Matthew 16:15, Jesus asks His disciples who do you say I am? Peter had the perfect answer. Peter said "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

    Peter was Jewish. The phrase "Son of the living God" from a Hebrew standpoint is a phrase used for God. To a Jew, claiming to be the Son of God was considered blasphemy, but that was Peter's response to who Jesus was
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi S Spencer,

    I understand you are busy with work and your concerns about your brother, so not to rush, not on Daniel, but just a few things to consider about Matthew 24. My understanding of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 is twofold, for then, and our future.

    The reason is, history tells us the believers in Jesus got out and went to Pella across the Jordan river before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. And on the sabbath, today would not matter but then the gates would be locked, and it would be hard to leave.

    Matt. 24:3, in Mark, we see it was Peter, James, John, and Andrew that ask Jesus in private. Jesus had just told them the temple would be destroyed and Matthew records "what sign of thy coming and the end of the world." It is easy to jump to they were talking about Jesus' second coming, but.

    Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection were hidden from them until all was done. Luke 9:44-45 Luke 18:31-34 and after they did not believe He resurrected. Mark 20:9-11 Luke 24:6-8, John 20:9. Even right before He ascended, they were expecting Jesus to set up the kingdom then, Acts 1:6. So why in Matthew 24:3 would we interpret it as if they were asking Jesus about His second coming?

    I will send you by this weekend what I have studied on the six things determined in Daniel 9:24 if I can shorten it enough, I do not like to send long posts. If you don't want me to post it let me know.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • U4YAH - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It was on the first day if the week as it is written.

    John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

    This is day that we call "Sunday" today. In the old and ancient scriptures it is called The First day. Counting six days to arrive to the Seventh Day, the Sabbath Day, the Seventh Day, we call that day Saturday today.

    The question should be: which day was the Messiah crucified! Because many people have been deceived to believe that it was Friday. This is impossible according to the scriptures.

    Fact: Jahshua, the Messiah tells us that he will be in the belly of the Earth as Jonah was in the belly of a big fish for a sign unto a wicked generation desiring a sign. 3 Days and night was Jonah in the big fish (not a whale)

    So knowing that he rose from the dead on the First day, all we need to do is count backwards three days and we will arrive at Wednesday, which was the day before the high holy day of the feast and was a high Sabbath day of the feast of unleavened bread. No matter what day of the week it fell on would be a Sabbath day. That year the high holy Sabbath of the feast was on Thursday, so he had to die before the Sabbath of feast, before Thursday. So not Counting Wednesday the day of the crucifixion count forward three days and we are at the Seventh day, another Sabbath. Then Jahshua is resurrected as soon as the Seventh day is over on Sunday, the first day of the week.

    After knowing this,, someone tell me how he could be crucified on Friday and spend 3 days in the grave till Sunday, the first day.

    If he was crucified Friday and died at the end of that day at sunset, which is the beginning of the new day, Saturday; then where are the other two days the Messiah said that he would still be in the grave? By believing that he was crucified on Friday, one would believe that he was in the grave for only one day. Remember! 3 Days & NIGHTS in the grave.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Dc730banks,

    If I may add to Chris' reply, the first day of the week (Sunday) is the day Jesus was resurrected. Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets, and the feasts were a part of the Mosaic Law. The Jewish festival that was the same day Jesus was resurrected that many overlooks with traditions is the Feast of First Fruits, Leviticus 23:9-14.

    We see in John; Mary Magdalene went to the tomb, and it was still dark, and she was the first to see Jesus. He would not let her touch Him, the reason was, He had not ascended to His Father, John 20:17. Jesus ascended at the same time the priest was waving the sheaf, (lifting up). After He returned, they could then touch Him, Matthew 28:8-10.

    As the sheaf of the first harvest had to be sacrificed and accepted by God before they could eat of the harvest and look forward to the next harvest as that day was the first day of counting the days of the weeks until seven sabbaths to the second harvest, the Feast of Weeks, Pentecost. Jesus ascended and was accepted as the First Fruits of the dead and returned, then they could touch Him.

    We see the second harvest Pentecost, also was the same day of year the fire of God came down upon the mount with Moses, and the day the Holy Spirit that Jesus said He would ask the Father to send, came down on the room where they were gathered as cloven tongues as of fire.

    Just a little of the end of the week that started when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of Nisan the day the lambs were taken up, the day that is called Palm Sunday.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks for sharing. I checked another site for NIV and ESV for this verse and the footnotes says "Some manuscripts add all or some of verse 37". So, it appears its due to some manuscripts showing an incomplete or missing verse. Some translations have this in brackets.

    My opinion is this is not a grand conspiracy to undermine God's word, as the NIV and ESV already says that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in plenty of other verses already. For example John 20:31 NIV

    "But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." or ESV is very similar, so is NAS, NASB, and others. I think there are many verses proclaiming this throughout.

    It seems unlikely that translators had a nefarious motive in my opinion. We should not be quick to judge others' motives as being evil in intention. It's concerning when a verse doesn't match up to other translations. But I think if we're transported to the room where the evidence was in front of them this kind of process would be more understandable. I think these were prayerfully done by believers and I don't see this as being a salvation issue where someone could accidentally follow satan by this verse being ommitted. I think in some cases of the modern translation differences 2 verses were interpreted as one verse and vice versa, since the originals didn't have verse numbers, for example.
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jesus was the fulfillment of Scripture in the Old Testament. Luke 24:19-27, Psalms 22, Isaiah 53, Zechariah 13:6, & many more.

    The Holy Scriptures are broken down in Books & Separated by New Testament & Old Testament, none of which have been accredited as authored by Jesus. However many believe all were written about Jesus (redemption ) The Old Testament is before Jesus was born. The New Testament begins with Jesus birth, death on cross, resurrection from the grave, the witnessed accounts of Jesus life, ministry, miracles. Then continues the Good News os Salvation & ministry of the Church. Christians & Messianic Jews believe in the New Testament as Christ The Messiah the promised everlasting savior. Psalms 93:2, 1Kings 9:5, Zechariah 6:12-13, Psalms 89:3,4, 1Chronicles 17:11-27, Hebrews 8,

    Matthew 8:4, Jesus obeyed scripture, Mark 1:44, & Jesus parents on Earth obeyed scripture, Luke 2:22,

    Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit = Luke 11, John 20:21-22, Luke 12, Acts 1:5, John 14:16,26, John 15:26,

    2Timothy 3:16

    Hope these are helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 2 years ago
    To add to discussion, if you type a word like "Father" in search on this site, then (Modify) search, tap (Jesus words)

    Then tap on each individual scripture: the translated words are broken down by words & English phrases, John 20:17, scroll down, bottom of page, you can hover over words for easy translation or click on each block for deeper translation study, this will take you to the Concordance comparisons & there you can find much more information.

    These translations are from Greek,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Browneyes878787 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    EthanDuff

    first thing we must investigate is the church's doctrine or fundamental beliefs. It' easily by going on their home page online also most churches have their service online so you Actually hear the preaching

    Does the church believe the Bible is the inerrant, infallible Word of God? Do the leaders trust that Scripture

    Does the church believe Jesus is not simply the Son of God but actually God Himself ( John 1:1-2, 14)? The deity of Christ is absolutely a fundamental belief of any biblical church. Had Jesus been an ordinary man, He would have been a sinner like the rest of humanity. The penalty for our wrongdoing needed to be paid by someone who'd never sinned. If Christ disobeyed God, then you and I are left to face the full wrath of the Father ( Heb. 9:27).

    Does the church believe Jesus was born of a virgin? If we have faith in God's Word, then we must trust that it speaks the truth regarding Jesus' miraculous birth, as recorded in the Gospels ( Matt. 1:23-25).

    Does the church believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ? When Jesus left the tomb, He left it physically. He was not simply a spirit floating around; He was a person-alive and in the flesh ( John 20:24-29).

    Does the church believe Jesus is going to return? Scripture is clear that Christ will come back to the earth. He will call His followers home and bring judgment on the ungodly ( 1 Thess. 4:13-18).

    Does the church believe there will be a future judgment? When Christ returns, He will return as a righteous Judge. At that time, He will separate His people from those who do not know Him Does the church believe there is a literal heaven and hell? This goes along with the truth of the coming judgment. After all, if the "sheep" and "goats" are separated ( Matt. 25:31-46), then each group must have a place to go.

    Does the church believe Jesus went to the cross and died a sacrificial atoning death? This is the most important point of all
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Predestination part 4.

    As I likely posted earlier there are certain limits to understanding God's counsel as stated in Deut. 29:29. There is a point such as with Pharaoh where God Himself hardens a man's heart once he has irrevocably hardened his own heart; that is something in His foreknowledge that God determines for every man who is unsaved. We as believers have been "grafted in" ( Romans 11:11-25). The scripture makes it clear that man has no excuse as we see evidence in the Creation and of the Godhead ( Psalm 19; Romans 1). We are "fearfully and wonderfully made" ( Psalm 139:14) and therefore human life is sacred. Or; as the Declaration of Independence states "we hold these truths to be self-evident".

    God is a God of Covenants and as He states "all the souls are mine" ( Ezekiel 18:4). This whole chapter I have found as an excellent rebuttal and witness to the Jewish community who occasionally insists on doing a "Mizpah" when they find out one side of my family is Jewish. It states in the same passage that the "soul who sins will die" thus removing any parental privilege in being of any physical descent as well as making all individuals responsible for their behaviors. We need to see here that someone can turn from wickedness to righteousness; and the opposite is true. Ultimately; I would say that Ephesians 4:30 makes it clear that we don't lose our salvation IF truly saved. There are many tares mixed in with the wheat however. Again; that is part of God's plan; as well as using Satan to refine us through temptations and persecutions. Since God created everyone then we are all to be eternal beings in our spirit.

    Also as Jesus pointed out to Thomas "blessed are those who haven't seen and yet believed" ( John 20:29). Just look at the Tribulation where; by the way Revelation 13:8 shows Predestination for all those NOT in the Book of Life. Just as in the time Christ was here the first time seeing ISN'T necessarily belief TO SALVATION. REV6:17
  • Giannis - 2 years ago
    John 20:27-28

    "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

    And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD AND MY GOD."
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello there,

    You said you "want to believe" but then declared "no!" then ask for help?

    Jesus encountered a man (family, members) facing a similar dilemma. Mark 9:24, the account in context seemingly starts in : Mark 9:14-29.

    The question that I ask you, is what are you having trouble believing?

    It's ok to ask GOD to help you overcome disbelief. I had struggled years ago with Jonah 2, because cartoon animation had influenced my thinking. I could only imagine an unbelievable Disney Character inside a whale. Someone said to me something like 'you have to believe all the Bible or none' I prayed GOD would help me. Then one day I heard a report of a man being discovered inside the belly of a fish, fully intact, on a documentary channel. I then heard more than one account.

    GOD is amazing at how HE can help us overcome anything. John 8:32, James 1:5,

    If you're wondering about Jesus, raising from the grave read John 16:31-33, John 16 whole chapter = this was a written account of a witness, that: Jesus knew all these things were going to happen to him, even the very witness writing this would abandon him._._ beforehand. Matthew 26:32, Mark 14:28, Luke 24:34,

    Also Luke 1:1-3, these people were unafraid to die for this truth: Acts 7:59,

    John 20:29, Mark 16,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Chris - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Peggy. You could look up the following Scriptures on Jesus Christ's Deity (i.e. God's fullness found in Jesus ( Colossians 2:9) & in His Holy Spirit). Jesus' Deity is proved by:

    a. His Names: Hebrews 1:8, John 20:28 (God); Matthew 16:16, Matthew 26:61-65 (the Son of God); Matthew 22:41-46 (Lord); Revelation 19:13 (Word of God); Revelation 19:16 (King of kings and Lord of lords).

    b. His Characteristics: Matthew 28:18 (Omnipotence: all powerful); Luke 6:8, John 2:24,25, John 13:11 (Omniscience: all knowing); Matthew 18:20 (Omnipresence: present in any place); John 1:4 (Life); John 14:6 (Truth); Hebrews 13:8 (Immutability: unchanging); 1 Timothy 3:16, John 1:1-14 (God manifest in the flesh in Jesus).

    c. His Works: John 1:3, Colossians 1:16 (creates); Colossians 1:17 (sustains); Luke 7:48,49 (forgives sin); John 11:41-44 (raises the dead); John 5:27 (judges); John 15:26 (sends the Holy Spirit).

    d. His receiving Worship: Hebrews 1:6 (from angels); Revelation 5:11-13 (from other heavenly beings); Matthew 14:33 (from men); Philippians 2:10 (from all).

    e. His equality within the Triune God: John 14:23, John 10:30-33 (with the Father); Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14 (with the Father and the Spirit).

    I hope you can see from these few Scriptures that Jesus was not just a special Man or Prophet sent by God, but truly was "God manifested in the flesh". No other man before Jesus' coming, during, or after His leaving this Earth, could ever fully reflect God's Glory, Wisdom & Power. Only God could - and He did this by sending us His Word, made Him a Man, so that He could give His Life as full payment for our sins - but only to those who believe this & place their trust in Him. To some, the 'Trinity' teaching is abominable. But man's salvation depends on the Divine Person of the Lord Jesus Christ - that God could accept no other Sacrifice to redeem & secure people to Himself - only by giving fully of Himself, which is true love for all.
  • Adam - 2 years ago
    "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." Jude 1:4 KJV

    "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 20:28 KJV

    "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" Mark 12:29 KJV

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV

    "And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments." Revelation 16:7 KJV

    Romans 10:9 , Luke 2:11, Philippians 2:11, 2 Corinthians 4:5

    Amen.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Daddy,

    The keys, the Greek word Kleis, are not actual keys in a physical form, it is the power and authority to open and shut. The first of the verse "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold I am alive for evermore". Jesus conquered death because He was sinless, Acts 2:24, and the devil/Satan who had the power of death, that is, the devil (Satan), Heb. 2:14-15 1 John 3:8.

    Romans 8:10-11 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    My understanding is Jesus was in the tomb/hell for the three days and He did not ascend to the Father until He rose from the tomb. John 20:17, Jesus ascended to the Father and presented himself and was accepted by God the First Fruits of them that slept. He returned and met the women on the road going to tell the apostles and they could then touch Him, Matt.28:9.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Alex N - 2 years ago
    Hi Dr. Lyle Lee....Let me bring your attention to the Woman at the well a Samaritan a Gentile.. John 4:1 Jesus tells her of the gift of God which is the H.G. That CHILD OF Promise..There is only 1 Promise.. Luke 24:49 kjv Behold i send the Promise of my father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. the Promise and that was the only Gospel he Preached..Being bornnagain of an incorruptible seed etc.. Acts 2:39...The Promise is unto you and your children....which was the gift of the H.G....A living being had to be born in them which was the H.G. Their new heart and new spirit was the H.G. That New Creature neither circumcision nor uncircumcision ( not Jew or Gentile )...but a new Creature...Which was the H.G..When he breathe on them they received the H.G... John 20:22...The gift of God and there is only 1 gift which is the H.G....Dr. Lee don't ya see that 2 gospels wd make him a double minded man which is an abomination to God...And a hypocrite...2 Gospels wd make him a hypocrite...Double minded man... James 4:8 a double minded man is unstable in all his ways...We know our Lord was not double minded preaching 2 gospels...Gbu Lyle, but ya need to rethink this...I always agree with you..But not on this one...

    .....When he said my words are spirit and life that implies living words...The 1 and only Gospel is a living being the H.G....That Child of Promise..The only Gift of God ..Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil child you will in no wise enter there in...That Child is the H.G. as that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit...Our new innerman has to be born in us Which is the Child of Promise... Romans 14:17 for the Kingdom of God is not in meat or drink but in joy and peace in the H.G....This implies that the H.G. IS THE Kingdom...And there is only 1 kingdom and 1 bridegroom
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 19 - 2 years ago
    The first few verses describe as chapter 18 did the destruction of the city of Babylon "the great whore" (v. 2). Verse 7 talks about the marriage of the Lamb; with the wedding supper in verse 9. The scene in front of the throne here as well as the timing seem almost identical to what we see in Revelation 5. We need to keep in mind that not everyone will be present wearing the garments of white until the last saint appears in heaven; so this likely shows the Resurrection of all the Tribulation saints along with the church who were raised 7 years before. This brings in mind the parable of the Ten Virgins and associated verses as to the reference both to the Second Coming and Rapture. We need to remember that Israel itself isn't as a nation going to repent until the final destruction on Israel where half of the city is taken in Zechariah 14:2. Just because the Tribulation saints aren't in the dispensation of the church where the Spirit works within the Body as at present; that doesn't exclude the rest of the believers from being members of a corporate Body who all need white garments of righteousness. (Verse 8). All true saints; therefore must bring forth fruit. God may deem martyrdom necessary to procure that; particularly in the days when Christ will be known to all and seen by the world (once again; indicated by the scene in Rev. 6:16-17. John 20:26-29 shows those who have NOT seen are blessed; and the Rapture certainly would be a reward in that sense.

    Verse 10 also brings up a theme repeated in Revelation 22:9 where he tries to worship someone other than God (in the other case an angel). This should cause us to take pause to realize that the glorified bodies of the saints will be quite overwhelming.

    The rest of the chapter; of course relates to the Second Coming of Christ and the immediate victory He has over the armies of the earth. More on that in the next post.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Giannis....Let me try to help you in Jesus Name..The name of the Kingdom is CHILD BIRTH....Uness ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....And that Child of PROMISE is the H.G....Thus there is only 1 baptism of PROMISE...Only 1 is needed ...Thats y he has to KNOW US thats when his good seed is sown in our hearts....Resulting in a spritual birth...Remember she brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations....Which is that spirit of truth Jesus spoke of that cannot speak, simply b/c he is an spritual infant...A new Born .The spirit ( the H.G. ) has to be born in us via his Seed ...his Words etc....Thats y he said that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT which is the H.G the Children of Promise....There has to be an Israel of God...Born in us and they are spirits...Thats y the sun nor any heat or the moon can lite on them simply b/c they are spirits...Read Isaiah 49 kjv.

    .....But back in John 20:22 And John 16 :21..He had already breathe on them, as his breath was his WORDS which are his SEEDS and Faith set in which is a spritual pregnancy..They had the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen..The Child the H.G. That Child of PROMISE....That resulted from his seeds his words....But the H.G. Child had not been born just yet till that mighty rushing Wind came..They had to go thru a gestation period b/4 the Child came and with Power....But Jesus said John baptised you with water but I will baptise you with the H.G. and fire...As our God is a consuming fire...When Jesus started his ministry he was preaching I come to bring FIRE on the earth...Thats his baptism of the H.G. That we so need..The 1 and only baptism of PROMISE..Which was the multiplication of God from Gods own Promise when he swore by himself.

    .....Jesus in Acts 1:4 Wait for the Promise of my Father that you have HEARD OF ME ( SEED)...John baptised you with water but you will be baptised with the H.G. NOT MANY DAYS HENCE ...Baby
  • Anna - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Psalm 62:5: My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him.

    John 20:28-29: And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

    Jesus saith unto him, because thou hast seen me, thou hast

    believed : blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have

    believed.

    Psalm 120: 1: In my distress, I cried unto the LORD, and he heard me

    Psalm 124: 8: Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 8 - 2 years ago
    Hey Giannis,

    Many people call the Passover an eight-day feast, even in Jesus' day. Some say Feast of Unleavened Bread and some feast of Passover. Passover is on the 14th and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th -21st. In Matthew 26:17 it starts; Now the first day of the Feast of Unleavened BreadIn Mark 14:12 and in Luke 22:7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread when the Passover must be killed In John 13:1 Now before the feast of the Passover this was after the Last Supper. The Last Supper was on Passover Day.

    Passover Day is a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The first day of the Unleavened Bread Feast is the Sabbath, Exodus 12:16. On the 14th all leaven had to be purged from the houses and Jerusalem. This is the preparation day that is in scripture not Friday the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.

    John 18:28 confirms the Passover lambs had not yet been sacrificed or eaten because they did not want to be defiled, they passed the blood of the lambs to the altar. This would be done after the sun started going down, any time after noon. This was going on at the same time Jesus was hanging on the cross. The Passover lamb was eaten on the night of the 15th the night they went out of Egypt, Exodus 12:29-32. Jesus was in the tomb when the Passover meal was eaten.

    If Jesus was crucified on Friday, we do not have three days and three nights and there are not that many days covered in Matt, Mark, Luke, and John. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, Thursday would be the Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the women could have gone to the tomb on Friday because it would be a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, So Thursday would be the only day of the week that fits scripture.

    That gives Thur. day, Fri. night and day, Sat. night and day Sun. night Jesus rose before sunrise, John 20:1 it was still dark.

    I hope this is enough to make sense.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Free - In Reply on 2 Peter 3 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Fannie Cross-Sullivan", in peace. We learn it because we must have hope. Our hope is that Jesus Christ, who conquered death, we will also go there. Where Jesus are. We shall not see death.

    If you imagine a person who is sick, for example, and is about to die. As we say here on earth. This person belive in Jesus Christ and has repented from a destructive life, to faith in Jesus Christ. If Iinow immediately give you a different picture of death, but then without God. Can you see the difference here? We humans are a detriment to ourselves, we have been from the very beginning. Now it has become worse.

    So God the Father Himself had to change everything when He make Heaven and earth, because of man. Remember He repented of it. Genesis 6:6

    The day you are referring to will be a terrible day, everyone should know what a fire can do.

    This is how it is that we believe in God the Father and in His Son Jesus Christ, then our life will be filled with hope for Life itself. We shall live even if we lay down our mortal body. Matthew 24:35 The best example is found in John 20:1-10 and the story of Lazarus when Jesus raises Him from the dead after he had lain dead for several days. John 11

    The day that will come when the firmament and the mountains will crumble. When God will put everything in order again, this time there will be no regrets, but Perfection. That is what Christ Jesus did. But as we know, everything takes time.

    Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 Jesus does not wish us harm, He loved us with divine love. believe in Him for your own sake. Fear is cast out when you are with Jesus Christ. Only love will keep you alive that day. God's Word and faith in Jesus. Hebrew 4:12-13 But we stick to Jesus. He fills us with peace, so that we all survive the day. I belive that from the bottom of my heart.

    Hope this help u, remember to always go to Jesus if u have a problem, He will sort everything out for u in His time, Amen. Jesus loves u i love u in Christ
  • Adam - In Reply on 2 Peter 1 - 2 years ago
    Let's see what else God's Word has to say in regards to your snarky comment against Jesus.

    A few verses before in 2 Peter 1:11 it says "Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." Do you believe Jesus is your Lord and Savior?

    Do you know what "Lord" means?

    The same old straw man fallacy shows up again that God the Son isn't God the Father, but no one is claiming that. This attack on Jesus is repeated so much it seems to fall into the disingenuous and lie territory.

    God is powerful enough to do what you don't comprehend as a man. Whether you comprehend that or not doesn't change reality or the truth. The Bible says that in John 1 the 'word was God' and was there at the beginning, so do you believe it?

    More of God's truth about God:

    Luke 4:34 - "Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God."

    Luke 4:12 after satan put Jesus to the test Jesus says "Do not put the Lord your God to the test."

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD..."

    Isaiah 42:8 "I am the LORD: that is my name..."

    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

    Godhead:

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    John 1:18

    God is we and us plural:

    Genesis 1:26

    If the Bible flat out said Jesus is God like it does would you believe it?

    Where are the verses that say Jesus isn't God the Son? (none)

    Where are the verses saying Jesus IS God the Son (above, numerous)

    And where are the verses where Jesus verbally denied being God? (none)

    "I AM" John 8:56-59

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    Isaiah 7:14

    Hebrews 1:8

    Isaiah 44:6

    Isaiah 43:11

    John 17:5

    John 17:21
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Book of Revelation: Supplement to introduction

    We are promised to receive a blessing for reading this Book; but that is for hearing it; and heeding it ( Rev. 1:3). There are things specifically for the churches and calling out in some cases just a few individuals who are "worthy" ( Rev. 3:4). The same principle applies to the Laodicean church for anyone who hears Him knocking at the door ( Rev. 3:20).

    This book goes to the fate of the whole world; beyond what could be called this current "dispensation". It seems apparent to most scholars that after Revelation 4; there isn't any more mention of the church on earth until Revelation 20 with those in glorified bodies. To me; since we ALL are saved by grace I wouldn't dogmatically state that the age of grace ( Matt. 16:18) will be totally ended; only the function of the Holy Spirit once the restrainer is removed (the believing remnant church) at the rapture ( 2 Thess. 2:6). What we see change is the preservation of the church as an institution ( Matt. 16:18) and the normal experience in the Tribulation of martyrdom ( Daniel 7:21). What remains as a common thread is being WORTHY and having garments of white as our spiritual clothing ( Ephesians 5:27; Rev. 19:18). In order to achieve this status now; we need to be living unspotted from the world and to a large extent patiently waiting until the coming of the Lord; after the Rapture martyrdom will be the norm. Instead of arguing whether those who are left behind are lukewarm believers or all new converts; it is better to understand the concept that all those He has chosen will eventually come to the faith. The main harvest of countless souls attests to the fact that SOME repent when judgments come; while others of course harden their hearts beyond hope. As Jesus stated it is blessed for those who have NOT seen the Son of Man ( John 20:29). It is clear by the sixth seal who God and Christ are; but by then there is only a clear choice to worship God or Satan.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on James 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey Giannis,

    I'm probably older but I am not tired, ha ha. I have enjoyed our conversation but looks like we come to a point we are not going to agree. That is ok, I felt I listed scripture that went with my understanding. Just one or two more things and it is ok if you don't reply, and I do not mean anything about not replying.

    The thief hanging next to Jesus that asked Jesus to remember him when He come into His kingdom. First punctuation was not used and depending on the comma would change what was said. I say unto you, Today or I say unto you today, another question, why capitalize the t in today after a comma?

    If Jesus and the thief went to heaven that day, why did Jesus tell Mary do not touch me for I have not ascended to my Father in John 20:17? Three days later. He ascended and presented Himself to His Father as the Firstfruits of those who slept and then returned. This was the same time the Priest waved the sheaf of the Firstfruits to be accepted by God before they could partake of the first harvest, the same with Jesus He could not be touched until He presented Himself to God.

    The Old Testament is all the early church had and if we claim that all Scripture is inspired by God if what is said in the old should not change in the new. The definition of death in the old is the same in the new, the new cannot contradict the old if both are inspired by God.

    The spirit is what goes back to God, without the spirit we are dead, in scripture it is called sleep. No spirit no breath and no more communication with God. The soul is us and is buried in death until resurrection.

    "It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body"

    I have enjoyed this.

    God bless,

    RLW.
  • Adam - 2 years ago
    John 1:1

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    Who is the Word?

    John 1:14-15 says the Word is Jesus. Does anyone deny that the Word is Jesus?

    If someone believes John 1:14, then do they believe John 1:1

    "...the Word was God."

    "...[Jesus] was God."

    JESUS.

    WAS.

    GOD.

    John 1:1

    This is God's Word.

    Some here are saying "Jesus was NOT God" despite John 1:1 clearly saying Jesus WAS God. I'd like to know exactly how someone can believe in all other verses of the Bible except this one? If something WAS something, that seems to offer little room for interpretation. It means it's the same, does it not? So, if something WAS something, how does someone twist this into believing it says something WAS NOT something?

    It then must be asked: since it takes so much effort to take a sentence something WAS something to turn it into: something WAS NOT something, what is the true underlying motive here? Does God's Word carry the most weight and influence or does something else?

    This is eerily similar to Gen 3:4 where satan denied what God said and claimed that they shall NOT surely die. Satan loves opposites and this seems to have his signature, does it not?

    I welcome any perspective I'm missing, but do not consider anything other Bible verses as valid evidence. God's Word is all that matters and because there's already numerous verses supporting that Jesus is God like John 1:1 then that is what is true. Lastly, why not just pray and ask God directly to know the truth? Genuinely ask!

    1 John 5:7-8

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    (plural "us")

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    Isaiah 7:14

    Hebrews 1:8

    Isaiah 44:6

    Isaiah 43:11
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Doug,

    This is an interesting logical argument. I find that in 1 Peter 3:22. Let's assume for argument's sake that your conclusion is correct and you get 1 point for this.

    But for every verse you cite, there are even more that say that Jesus IS God, like John 1:1 saying the "Word was God" and verse 14 that Jesus is the Word.

    This could continue to play out and you can cite any number of verses to support your position, but again we don't run out of very compelling verses saying that Jesus is God.

    Let's say that it's a dead even race. 30 verses suggesting Jesus isn't vs 30 verses suggesting He is.

    Then what? Which do you choose to believe?

    I don't know if you've gone through this exercise or not, but I now have a spoiler: someone will run out of verses supporting that Jesus "isn't" God long before the verses supporting He IS God. Not only that, but each of the verses commonly cited to claim that Jesus "isn't" God require some extra creative interpretation and human logic whereas the verses supporting the other side can be read and interpreted more literally. Not only that, but there's logical explanations for why Jesus called His Father God. The main reason is that He temporarily became a human being and limited His power. Phil 2:6-7. So, yes, as a man, He prayed to His Father and called Him God. So, all verses must be considered as a whole, not cherry picked in order to have understanding about the Godhead and I admit it is hard to comprehend as we don't have anything like it in on earth. But perhaps like an orange with seeds, pulp, skin. Someone calls pulp an orange, and it is.

    1 John 5:7-8

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    Genesis 1:26

    , Genesis 11:6-7 (plural "us")

    Philippians 2:5-8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 2:22-24

    Matthew 1:23-25

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:29

    Romans 1:20

    Isaiah 7:14

    Hebrews 1:8

    Isaiah 44:6

    Isaiah 43:11
  • I7sharp - In Reply on Acts 1 - 2 years ago
    "Do you believe the words of Apostle Peter? Peter speaks directly about when we are baptized we receive God's Holy Spirit!"

    The word, "receive," and "Holy Spirit" are never found in the same verse in the KJV.

    On the other hand, "receive/received" and "Holy Ghost" are found here:

    John 7:39

    John 20:22

    Acts 1:8

    Acts 2:33

    Acts 2:38

    Acts 3:21

    Acts 8:15

    Acts 8:17

    Acts 8:19

    Acts 9:17

    Acts 10:47

    Acts 19:2 ("Holy Ghost" is mentioned twice here.)

    1 Thessalonians 1:6

    Anything we can learn from this?
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    LaNette M. Tolliver

    Please read : John 11:1-53,

    Luke 16:19-31, someone I believe it was "Chris" in previous discussion multiple months ago, pointed out most Parables, if not all were without name, but this one, perhaps being about Lazarus.

    John 12:1-18,

    The sisters have much also mentioned it appears : Luke 10:38-42,

    Matthew 27:56,61, Matthew 28:1, Mark 15:40,47, Mark 16:1,9, Luke 8:2, Luke 24:10, John 19:25, John 20:1-18,

    Possibly even: Romans 16:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Alex N - In Reply on John 20 - 2 years ago
    Naseem gbu but you do greatly err... John 5 :23 ....Jesus said that all men should honor the SON even as they honor the Father he that honoreth not the SON honoreth not the Father that has sent him.

    .....When he bringeth the 1 st begotton into the world God instructs all angels to worhip him...God himself wd be braking the 1st commandment if he instructed all the angels to worship his son if he were not God the son.... Hebrews 1 : 6

    ......But unto the SON he says Thy THRONE O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER.. Hebrews 1 : 8....A sceptre of righteousness is the Sceptre of THY KINGDOM...Unto the SON he says

    .......Naseem but the way we know without a doubt that Jesus IS truly God is b/c of his seed the WORD....He says to whom the WORD CAME ( HIS SEED ) IT MADE THEM GODS and the scripture cannot be broken....Don'cha see that he is able to propagate, reproduce after the God kind... Matthew 13 :37 KJV ...Jesus said he that soweth the GOOD SEED is the Son of man.

    .....And also John 17 : 5 ....Jesus prayed Father Glorify thou me with thine own self.....EVEN WITH THE GLORY I HAD WITH YOU B/F THE WORLD WAS....He was spirit b/f he was flesh....He only took on flesh and blood to die for the sins of the world humanity.....Thats y he said b/f Abraham was i am.....He always existed and was with God as the living WORD.... John 1

    .....Naseem when he breathe on them he was propagating very God with his breath which was his words his seeds....Remember what God said everything has to multiply after its KIND...According to his seed...The Child that they birth was the H.G. THAT Child of PROMISE....Emanuel....His seed is the very seed of God....Spirits can be born in us by his seed ...Thats y he is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods....And that which is born of the spirit is spirit as God is spirit.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 2 years ago
    Hi Brain,

    Not sure why Matthew Henry chose to go there using 2 Cor. 4:6, when the angel was the one whose countenance was like lightning. Matthew Henry commented it is often mentioned in the New Testament, as the day which Christians religiously observed in solemn assemblies, to the honor of Christ. This can be debated there are as many mentioning they met on the Sabbath because they did not have bibles like we have today and the only way to hear the scriptures was in the temple or synagogues on the Sabbath. We also see in scriptures they met every day of the week Acts 2:46-47.

    What is not talked about very much, Jesus rose on the day of the Feast of Firstfruits. That is the first day after the Sabbath after Passover which is the first day of the week. Jesus is the Firstfruits of those who slept, 1 Cor. 15:20. It is also the first day counting each day of the 7 Sabbaths that brings us to the second harvest we call Pentecost that means 50 that is 7 Sabbaths plus 1 day.

    The Jewish day starts at sundown at ends at sundown so in Matthew 28:1 Mark 16:2 Luke 24:1 and John 20:1 when the sun went down on the Sabbath it was the first day of the week. The women headed to the tomb with the spices to anoint Jesus and the sun was just about to come up except for Mary Magdalene, she was the first to go and it was still dark, John 20:1 but it was the first day of the week.

    Romans 14 should help, if you will study all four accounts of this day it will shine light on many things. As Jesus told the woman at the well John 4:24-25.

    Someone said, we are not called to go to church we are called to be the church and that is every day.

    God bless,

    RLW


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