Discuss John 18 Page 2

  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Alex,

    Part 2

    ...He will give the Kingdom up to the Father that God will be all in all (the only Sovereign of the Kingdom). 1Cor. 15:24

    Jesus will rule with His Father forever over the saints and it will be a kingdom of joy, peace, love, power, grace, and righteousness. (Rom.14:17)

    God will rule over the kingdom as the only Sovereign. He will rule over heaven and the lake of fire ensuring the blessedness of the saints and the eternal punishment of those under His wrath.

    Jesus told Pilate that His Kingdom was not of this world ( John 18:36) It is spiritual and heavenly and also within us.

    It is not a Jewish kingdom because Jesus said that the kingdom would be taken from them and given to another nation. ( Matthew 21:43) (This nation being the saints of God-both Jew and Gentile) Jesus' words were fulfilled in 70 A.D. on the generation that was then present. Matthew 22:7; 23:38; Luke 21:20,24) The Romans surrounded Jerusalem and lay siege to it. They burned the temple and the city to the point of desolation. 1.1 million Jews were killed in this siege. Thousands upon thousands were taken captive and enslaved.

    Even though there is a nation called Israel today does not mean that there will be an earthly kingdom with the Messiah. About 25% of the Jews worldwide emigrated to Israel since it was given nation status in 1948. The national archives of the Jews were destroyed in the 70A.D.. This means all of the records of peoples families and lineages. The other tribes of Israel have been scattered all over the world and intermixed with the Gentiles. There are a small percentage of these tribes in Israel now. So we cannot say that the whole nation ahs been regathered. But even if there comes a national regathering of ALL of Israel, this does not confirm that there will be an earthly kingdom with Jesus reigning. His kingdom is one of righteousness where sin does not enter it. This world is sinful and corrupt...

    This siege ended the time of the Jews and the OT Mosaic system.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Donna. There are probably a few reasons why this occurred. In John 18:28, we read that "THEY led Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgement...". And when Pilate told THEM to "judge him (Jesus) according to their law", we can understand that the Sanhedrin (the supreme council & tribunal of the Jews) were involved in laying the charge against Jesus. Also, at that time under Roman rule & law, the hearing of accusations & pronouncing judgement had to be conducted only by the Roman procurator or his deputies & not by the people. As well, with those of Jewry that might have shown sympathy towards Jesus (as One doing nothing worthy of such treatment & death), it was in the Sanhedrin's interest to refer the matter of execution to Rome (in other words, 'let's pass the buck'), to avoid becoming unpopular & losing respect & face with their people.

    So, why not in the case of Stephen ( Acts 7:54-60), or the woman taken in adultery ( John 8:3-5), though Jesus skilfully diverted their attention from the woman to themselves? In these passages, we see it was the Jewish religious leaders (the Scribes & Pharisees) & the mob they incited being urged to take the law into their own hands. They believed they were fulfilling the Law, which prescribed that adultery & blasphemy were sins worthy of death ( Leviticus 20:10; Leviticus 24:16). These were not the Sanhedrin (the official Jewish council who would pronounce judgement after due legal processes), though the Council comprised many of these men; they were the religious leaders, acting on their own, filled with religious fury, inciting the mob, determined to take matters into their own hands, believing that they were fulfilling the Law & doing God service.

    This is how I understand the difference which you have picked up on: just a few thoughts for your consideration.
  • Donna Stephens - 1 year ago
    QUESTION?

    John 18:31 Then said Pilate unto them, Take ye him, and judge him according to your law. The Jews said therefore unto him, It is not LAWFUL for us to put any man to death.

    Acts 7:59 And they STONED Stephen ...

    Why could that not stone Christ; being unlawful, but they could stone Stephen?

    They were under Roman rule when both these events took place.

    Does anyone have insight into this, it was important even to be recorded in God's word.

    God bless you.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Jema,

    Hebrews 11:8-10, 16 says that Abraham and those of the OT promises were looking forward to the heavenly country that God would bring them into.

    Jesus, in talking to Pilate, said that His kingdom is not of this world. John 18:36. He went to heaven to prepare a place for us so that where He is we will be.

    Therefore, I am not looking for an earthly existence upon His return, but an heavenly. He will make a new heaven and a new earth after He destroys the wicked and unbelievers, resurrects and glorifies believers and destroys the present heavens and earth. So, these new heavens and earth will be our eternal home. They will not be tainted by sin. Perhaps we will be able to transfer readily between heaven and earth as Jesus was able to do after His resurrection. So, there is a purpose for both the new heavens and new earth. We just do not know how God will us them concerning us and His glory in that age of eternity.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello GiGi,

    I was taking a look at John 18:36 from my Greek study notes, and literally it is in the imperfect tense with a subjunctive particle that means "Up until now, my servants would have been fighting if my kingdom is from out of the earth as a source, so that I would not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from here.

    I just wanted to share this as I do believe it supports what you are saying!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello again, Alex, let me clarify one more thought. The verse of John 18:36 says:

    My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."

    When Jesus spoke the last sentence He was not speaking in terms of timeframes, using "now" to indicate time, but as a way of saying "as it is" as when someone says to another, "now, now, that is what I said." (not meaning now as pertaining to time, but pertaining to the surety of what was said. "Surely" could be faithfully used instead of "now" in this sense.

    Jesus was not saying that at that point in time, ("now") Kingdom was not of this world but would be hence" (someday but- surely, His kingdom is not earthly and not from here (earthly).

    We may disagree on this, Alex, but by the words of our Lord, I don't believe He said He ever planned to set up an earthly kingdom. You and many may differ with me on this, and I am open to consider what others can present with Scriptural support.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear ,

    Sorry Alex, but the text of John 18:36 clearly states (by the mouth of Jesus) that His kingdom is not of this world. You have substituted hence for world, which is a twisting of Scripture. I stand on the words of Jesus, not yours.

    When Jesus instructed the disciples to pray, He said, Our Father, who art in heaven...thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    Jesus was saying that the kingdom already existed in heaven. I believe Him. I believe that the kingdom has always existed in heaven. But Jesus said many times that the kingdom of heaven is near or come. Thus, saying that the kingdom that exists in heaven has come to men in the person of Jesus. The kingdom, though only available to angels and heavenly hosts prior to Jesus' incarnation, was now available to men who believe in Him to be saved.

    He said that the kingdom of heaven (or God) was within you, speaking of His disciples. Jesus' prayer he taught the disciples was for the kingdom of heaven (or God) that He is the King of, would come to earth within men and women who believe the gospel and follow Him. He is the kingdom for us. He is the King who reign within us and in heaven. He has always reigned in heaven. But He brought the kingdom to earth by His incarnation and Presence in believers by the Holy Spirit.

    Alex, you definitely have a disdain for the church that Jesus said He would build and preserve. It has been in existence for 2000 years. And yes, there have been problems of sinful leaders and erroneous doctrines, but there is the same problems as these in the church since the Reformation. I do not think that the answer is to swear off the church body with contempt for the church is still the body of Christ. I am not talking about denominations or buildings, but believers gathered agreement of the one true faith delivered to us all by the apostles.

    From what I remember reading in one of your past posts, you stated that you "discovered" the doctrine concerning the "seed"
  • Alex1939 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Gi-Gi...But let me just say this... Jesus didn't say my kingdom is not of this world....In John 18:36...Jesus said My Kingdom is not NOW...NOT NOW...from hence....Not nowThe Kingdom does not come till Rev.12:10...Now is come salvation and the Kingdom of our God and his Christ...The Kingdom cannot come till the woman births the manchild the baby which is the spirit of truth that will come when we birth the spirit of truth...Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G....The contents of the book...Thats y Jesus is saying unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....As the woman in Rev 12 does not enter the Kingdom till she births the manchild that is gonna rule all nations

    Gi-Gi I love ya sweetheart...But Jesus plainly tells us I am the light of the world but the night is coming when no man can work which was that great abomination of desolation standing in the holy places...The pulpits and churches...The last 2 k yrs have been nothin but wars and rumors of wars...The day of the Lord cannot come till there 1 st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed...Which is mans adamic nature....And the Tares that have to be joined with the wheat...Till the Harvest

    Jesus said when you see the great falling away that great abomination of desolation standing in the Holy places..Run to the mountains..Even Paul said when that which is Perfect is come that New Covenant that which is done in parts (Churchanity ) shall be done away with...Remember that image in Daniel 2 had to be done away with...Which is the early Church that was all in parts...The silver and the gold and the iron and brass down to the feet part iron and part clay...But it was all done away with...When That which is perfect is come is the New Covenant in his blood...All of Churchanity will be done away with...Even the big mega Churches will be done away with which is the head of Gold..But if I be lifted up i will draw
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Spiritual Discernment part 5: The Holy Spirit at work

    The discernment of spirits involves detection of God's presence as well as the lack thereof. It is a rare preacher or layperson who would dare to be bold enough to declare that their particular congregation is lukewarm as Christ did of the Laodiceans. Unfortunately; there is too much human praise (such as accolades to Pastors) which in and of itself isn't necessarily wrong; but if it is in the spirit of the world where "what is honorable among men is an abomination to God" ( Luke 16:15 loosely translated). Empty praise we could do without; of course false accusations and and overcritical spirit aren't helpful either. It is; nonetheless being UNloving and not edifying brothers and sisters in Christ if we don't care enough to help them when we can see that they are compromised in some way; we should desire fruit to multiply in others.

    We were discussing Pilate's line today with Christ "what is truth"? ( John 18:38). With today's culture tending to have the effect of not wanting to "offend" anyone as its biproduct of downright falsehood; it seems that there is little making us uncomfortable or thinking about the fear of the Lord nowadays. The truth is as a "two edged sword" ( Heb. 4:12). We also need to remember that He comes with a sword to smite the nations and even judge the church in some ways ( Rev. 2:16; Revelation 19). Paul didn't mince words with Peter but openly rebuked him in his hypocricy ( Galatians 2:11-19). Jesus Himself of course was God and able perhaps to be more critical than any of us; but again He rebukes all those He loves ( Heb. 12:6). The words of Proverbs 27:6 discuss the benefits of a rebuke of a friend; and this could be multiplied with many other cross references.

    The point here is that if we don't make truth clear and expose error then the cure is worthless at best and perhaps worse than the disease. Any strongholds the enemy has must be dealt with before deliverance.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 8 - 2 years ago
    Hey Giannis,

    Many people call the Passover an eight-day feast, even in Jesus' day. Some say Feast of Unleavened Bread and some feast of Passover. Passover is on the 14th and the Feast of Unleavened Bread is on the 15th -21st. In Matthew 26:17 it starts; Now the first day of the Feast of Unleavened BreadIn Mark 14:12 and in Luke 22:7 Then came the day of Unleavened Bread when the Passover must be killed In John 13:1 Now before the feast of the Passover this was after the Last Supper. The Last Supper was on Passover Day.

    Passover Day is a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The first day of the Unleavened Bread Feast is the Sabbath, Exodus 12:16. On the 14th all leaven had to be purged from the houses and Jerusalem. This is the preparation day that is in scripture not Friday the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath.

    John 18:28 confirms the Passover lambs had not yet been sacrificed or eaten because they did not want to be defiled, they passed the blood of the lambs to the altar. This would be done after the sun started going down, any time after noon. This was going on at the same time Jesus was hanging on the cross. The Passover lamb was eaten on the night of the 15th the night they went out of Egypt, Exodus 12:29-32. Jesus was in the tomb when the Passover meal was eaten.

    If Jesus was crucified on Friday, we do not have three days and three nights and there are not that many days covered in Matt, Mark, Luke, and John. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, Thursday would be the Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the women could have gone to the tomb on Friday because it would be a preparation day for the weekly Sabbath, So Thursday would be the only day of the week that fits scripture.

    That gives Thur. day, Fri. night and day, Sat. night and day Sun. night Jesus rose before sunrise, John 20:1 it was still dark.

    I hope this is enough to make sense.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Giannis - In Reply on Matthew 8 - 2 years ago
    Dear Ronald

    If Passover was on Thursday, how is to be explained John 18:28

    "Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover." So according to John Jews had not eaten the Passover yet. In Mark 15:46 we are given a significant information "And he (Joseph of Arimathaea) bought fine linen (after Jesus died on the cross), and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre." If that day was Passover how Joseph was able to BUY that fine linen. Passover was holiday, no work to be done, no selling /no buying. So the Passover was to start that evening.

    What day was that? John 19:31 gives us an answer.

    "The Jews therefore, because it was the PREPARATION, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away." It says it was the preparation day, the day beFore sabbath, that is Friday

    Also see Mark 15:42 "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath" In Greek Friday is still called Preparation Day ("Paraskevi hemera")

    So we come to a question mark. The first 3 Evangelists say that Jesus had eaten the Passover with His disciples on Thursday evening. John (who writes his gospel last of all and as historians say when he was very very old, that is many decades after the first 3 gospels were around) disagrees. He places Passover one day later. So which one is right? John is right, he had no reason to correct the others if he didn't consider that he should do. So it seems that Jesus had the passover meal with His disciples a day earlier because He knew that He couldn't have it on the right day. So Passover and Sabbath coincided that year.

    GBU
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Revelation: Final introduction thoughts

    The heart is deceitful above all things; and desperately wicked; who can understand it? ( Jeremiah 17:9).

    Whenever we attempt to make study of this book in particular; or any other scripture as a purely academic exercise; we are always deficient of understanding at best; and subject to deceiving ourselves. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 warns that they shall believe THE lie; and that not for want of truth; but because they did not LOVE the truth as stated in the previous verse. Isaiah 66:4 warns of God "choosing" their delusions with the horrifying spectacle of hell being seen by all men during the Millennium and perhaps eternity (verse 22-24 of same chapter). ALL will worship the beast; all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life from before the foundation of the world ( Rev. 13:8 loosely translated).

    Given these sober admonitions; we need to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5-6). This reminds us of Christ's excoriation of the Pharisees as to Satan being their father ( John 8:44 as one example of many). We need to have true repentance; not only for our outward manifestations of sin; but a change of heart. This means the world; flesh and the Devil are all factored in here. Christ needs not only to be the center of our lives; but indeed IS our life if we are truly "crucified with Christ" ( Galatians 2:20). A sign that we have spiritual life is when we are incredulous that we really have died to self; as sin becomes more and more evident during the sanctification process. This likely is part of the verse John 18:37 where He describes those who come to the light. This needs to be an ongoing process; just as is the meaning of John 3:16. We need; therefore to be possessors of He who is faithful; not just confessors of the faith. A lack of understanding this makes one believe the fallacy that "God helps those who help themselves" which was a Ben Franklin adage. We must die daily.
  • Richard H Priday on John 19 - 2 years ago
    John 18 and 19 The predestined plan of God-crucifixion and atonement

    Rather than detailing each event in separate chapters; I am making some general points here.

    It doesn't seem fitting to do a forensic analysis of the details of the horrors of crucifixion in studying this subject; but instead doing a broad based approach to the events which played out in the time when Christ voluntarily laid down His life. ( John 10:18).

    In regard to Judas Iscariot; of course he was the predestined son of perdition prophesied in Psalm 41:9. There were curses to be on his descendants as well. As to Pilate; the discourse went down in chapter 18 where Christ plainly told him that all who are of the truth hear His voice ( John 18:37). His response "what is truth" in the next verse clearly shows he remained in darkness; albeit his sin wasn't to be as great as the others who brought Him to Pilate.

    We also; of course see how Christ's statement to Peter came to pass. We can sort of call prophecy predestination in a way; unless it is based on conditional factors. Jesus knew Peter couldn't stand in his own strength; but was already preparing him for when he had a change of heart. Several prophecies are in chapter 19 along with the one in the other gospels where He asks why God foresook Him taken from Psalm 22.

    This most important event in human history allows us to be with Him in heaven eternally.

    That is the central message that should be in our minds as to the certainty that God's plan and will are accomplished. This calls for praise and a humble and contrite spirit as Psalm 51 indicates. Psalm 110:3 shows "we shall be made willing in the day of thy power..." and seems to reflect sentiments as Job 19:25 and Isaiah 26:19 on the Resurrection
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Reply on Leviticus 9:23, Leviticus 8:23,

    Leviticus 9:6, Leviticus 9:16, Leviticus 9:23-24, Leviticus 14:14,17,25,28,

    Exodus 29:20, possibly symbolic ear = Exodus 15:26, Psalms 10:17, Proverbs 28:9, Luke 12:3

    Interestingly it was the high Priest's servant's right ear: Luke 22:50,51, John 18:10,11,12,

    Additional scripture about toes & GOD's justice, Judges 1:6,7,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • TRUTH - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Henry:

    Genesis 19:37 And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites until this day,

    Genesis 19:38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Ben-am-mi: the same is the father or the children of Ammon unto this day.

    God uses men and women for his purpose and his pleasure.

    God used Lot and his daughters to bring forth two nations.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do his good pleasure.

    Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another vessel to dishonour?

    John 18:38 Pilate said unto him, What is truth?

    Lot and his daughters died, probably not knowing, truth.

    God Bless you.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Mark 15 - 2 years ago
    There was 1st a Priesthood in: Genesis 14:18,

    Another priesthood established after 400+ yrs of captivity of Israel in Egypt. Established in Exodus 28:1, described & defined & detailed in; Exodus 28, Ex. 29, Ex. 30, Ex. 31, Ex. 35, Ex. 38, Ex. 39, Ex. 40, Leviticus 1, note the Name, Aaron being in the Levi lineage= Exodus 2:1, Numbers 26:59, if you want to study the laws of the Priesthood all the chapters of Leviticus, I recommend.

    Numbers 3:1-45, clarified who was allowed to be in the Priesthood. Note: Numbers 3:32, Numbers 4, breaks down duties of each family, within that tribe, separated by GOD specifically, Numbers 3:12-13, Numbers 3:41, Deuteronomy also describe the duties. This continued through the book of Joshua. King David & king Solomon, re-established the Levitical Priests; 1Chronicles 6:10, then again at the return of the Babylonian captivity re-established by Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, & all Israel that returned.

    Therefore by these recorded accounts it appears the priesthood that existed during the moment your referring to in Mark 15, were traditional heirs of the priesthood as established, in Exodus. Respected & upheld by Jesus himself= Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44, Luke 5:14,

    Please read Isaiah 53, Zechariah 13:6, John 18:35,

    Interestingly in: Luke 1:5, Luke 2, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Jesus Our High Priest.

    They swayed Pilate, Matthew 27:24, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:4-23, John 19:8-15, yet GOD ordained it & Christ allowed it, John 10:17,

    I find it useful to read & study many Books of the Bible to answer my questions within one part of another Book.

    Hopefully these are helpful & fully answer your questions
  • MARK 15 - In Reply on Mark 15 - 2 years ago
    The Jewish leadership has been trying to destroy Jesus since early in His ministry ( Mark 3:22-30). At least twice, they have been prepared to stone Him ( John 8:59; 10:31). They don't want to execute Jesus during the Passover and week-long Feast of Unleavened Bread ( Mark 14:1-2); Jesus has too many supporters who may cause a riot ( Mark 11:1-10; 14:1-2). But since they have Him, it is much better if He is executed quickly.

    The Sanhedrin has a lot working against them. If they imprison Jesus, His followers could rile up the travelers from Galilee, Judea, and the surrounding area who at least think He is a prophet, if not the Messiah. Because of Jesus' popularity, the number of Galileans in Jerusalem, and the fact that the Jewish council cannot execute someone, they need the Romans to kill Jesus. Were Jesus less-renowned and less-connected to conflict with religious leaders, they likely would have been content to let a mob break Roman law by stoning ( Acts 7:54-60). Roman officials hold their trials in the early morning; if the Sanhedrin waits until later in the day, Pilate will not be available. At evening the Sabbath begins, so they need to move fast.

    This verse does not describe a second trial before the Sanhedrin. The trial in Mark 14:53-65 happens concurrently with Peter's denials in Mark 14:66-72. "Held a consultation" means the evidence-gathering is over and the council members are making their final decision. They have already convicted Jesus of blasphemy according to the Mosaic law ( Mark 14:63-65). Likely this discussion is to decide on what capital offence against Roman law they will present before Pilate.

    John, adds more detail ( John 18:28-32). When the members of the Sanhedrin take Jesus to Pilate's house, they do not enter. As residents of Jerusalem, they eat the Passover that afternoon, and will become unclean if they enter the home of a Gentile. After Pilate interviews and flogs Jesus, the Sanhedrin makes their case again.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The Kingdom of God.

    Part 3.

    "WITHIN YOU."

    The better translation would be "in your midst" or "among you." Jesus was telling the Pharisees that He brought the kingdom of God to earth. Jesus' presence in their midst gave them a taste of the kingdom life, as attested by the miracles that Jesus performed. Elsewhere, Jesus mentions His miracles as definitive proof of the kingdom: "If I drive out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you" ( Luke 11:20).

    There are three popular interpretations of Jesus' words in Luke 17:21 that the kingdom of God is within you (or among you): 1) the kingdom of God is essentially inward, within man's heart; 2) the kingdom is within your reach if you make the right choices; and 3) the kingdom of God is in your midst in the person and presence of Jesus. The best of these interpretations, it seems, is the third: Jesus was inaugurating the kingdom as He changed the hearts of men, one at a time.

    For the time being, Christ's kingdom is not of this world ( John 18:36). One day, however, the kingdom of God will be manifest on the earth ( Isaiah 35:1), and Jesus Christ will rule a physical kingdom.

    Jesus told his desciples to pray for the Kingdom.

    Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

    Mat. 6:10.

    Some say the Kingdom started in Jesus ministry.

    There's several problems with that view.

    1) Davids throne no longer existed then. "It still don't.

    2) Revelation 20. refutes that notion. "The devil is still at large, look around.

    The Millennial Kingdom is a one-thousand-year literal and visible reign of Christ upon the earth during which Satan is bound, Israel as a people is restored, and the Jewish Temple rebuilt.

    Isaiah 2:1-4.

    Isaiah 11:1-10.

    Isaiah 65:18-25

    I like this one!!

    Isaiah 11:11. God will gather Israel a SECOND TIME and all this will happen.

    This is being fulfilled before our very eyes! He just haven't poured his spirit on that nation yet.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Hi Giannis.

    Here we have those who wanted the Gentiles to be circumcised. A seal "Binding them to the law."

    And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

    And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

    And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

    Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

    But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

    Acts 15:7-11.

    Did you catch what Peter said? He says we "Jews" shall be saved even as they "Gentiles" you would think it should be the other way around!! reminds you of Romans 11:25-26. Then James put it in sequence here in vs 16.

    After this I WILL RETURN, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

    This is all future.

    Concerning Judas.

    John 18:9.

    That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

    Judas had done already betrayed Jesus, but yet Jesus I have lost none!

    Judas was never chosen to sit on the twelve thrones, Every time he was mentioned we were reminded that he was going to betray Jesus. Jesus called him a devil and a their BEFORE he betrayed him. He was never saved.

    God bless you Giannis

    I will be talking to you tomorrow.
  • Austin - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Well , Peter was threatened when he was with Jesus Christ , before the death' of Jesus in the cross ,

    John 18:15-27

    King James Version

    17Then saith the damsel that kept the door unto Peter, Art not thou also one of this man's disciples? He saith, I am not.

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  • GODS KINGDOM vs kingdoms and dominions - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Daniel 7:27

    And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, SHALL BE GIVEN to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and ALL DOMINIONS shall serve and obey him.

    Daniel 6:26

    I make a decree, That in every DOMINION of my KINGDOM- men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and HIS KINGDOM that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.

    John 18:36

    Jesus answered, MY KINGDOM is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

    ***** Luke 17:21*****

    Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU.

    Luke 21:10

    Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

    [mishael: every nation on earth is called, a kingdom. But none is called THE kingdom.

    Gods kingdom exists in heaven and within every born again believer in Jesus Christ.

    JOHN 3:3, 5. Jesus's own words about the ONE KINGDOM OF GOD.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Additional scripture for you:

    Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,

    * Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,

    Matthew 23:13,14,

    Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,

    Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,

    John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,

    Acts 15, Acts 23,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding
  • Robby B on John 18 - 2 years ago
    Notice they sought Jesus of Nazareth, the lowly son of the carpenter. The gospel is hid to them that are lost.

    Now the name Jesus of Nazareth is the name above all creatures, above all creation. Jesus of Nazareth inscribed above his cross.

    Jesus of Nazareth is God.

    Also, the scriptures were fulfilled even in the details we miss.

    Psalms 27:1-2

    1 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

    2 When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

    Psalms 35:4

    "Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt."

    Finally, Saul of Tarsus came confronted by the reality of Calvary.

    Acts 22:8

    "And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest."
  • D W L on 2 Peter 2:20 - 2 years ago
    2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. -- notice it says branch in me.

    3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

    4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

    5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

    6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. --- This is Jesus its not my opinion (fire)

    Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art (converted), strengthen thy brethren.--- Peter you must not cut off people ear --

    John 18:36 if my kingdom were of this world my servants would fight

    Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

    We make mistakes, but a Christian stops lying, steeling, killing, adultery, + the other commandments
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I think if you trace out commentaries on Judas in the Gospels and Acts you get the answers to both of your questions.

    The set of scriptures that speak about Judas before he committed himself to betray Jesus are: Mark 3:13-19, Luke 6:13-16, John 6:61-71

    The event that triggered Judas to act on his decision to betray Jesus: Matthew 26:6-16, Mark 14:3-11, John 12:3-8

    Judas identified as betrayer at the last supper: Matthew 26:20-25, Mark 14:17-21, Luke 22:21-22, John 13:18-31

    Once his betrayal was set in motion: John 17:9-12

    At the betrayal: Matthew 26:45-50, Mark 14:40-46, Luke 22:45-48, John 18:1-9

    After completing his betrayal: Matthew 27:3-10, Acts 1:16 and Acts 1:20

    We must acknowledge Jn 2:24-25 was true of Christ before He chose any of His disciples. He was never deceived by anyone that temporarily followed him but fell away, including Judas, John 6:64. No prophet had been in Israel for centuries, so Christ alone had this ability when He came until Pentacost. After Pentacost the hearts of certain individuals could be revealed by Christ's Spirit to born again believers that are specially given that gift, such as Peter ( Acts 5:1-13, Acts 8:1-25) Note, Jusas, Ananias and Saphira, and Simon all had their hearts exposed as false thru their follies with money.

    Judas was a disciple and he was broken off the vine, but he never had the fruit of the Holy Spirit and was never pronounced pruned/cleaned by the Father or Jesus. We know this because Judas was broken off by the Father before Jesus told the disciples they were pruned/cleaned branches abiding in Him, the true vine, who would bear fruit in John 15. Judas was marked unclean, he was never born again of the Spirit at Pentacost or made an Apostle for the great commission. He died a disciple without the fruitful presence of the Holy Spirit. He is proof that false fruitless brethren can be among us who depart 1 Jn 2:18-20, but not proof some are broken off by God who actually bear fruit by abiding in Jesus.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey GiGi,

    Yep, Jesus has been reigning since God placed His name above all and put all under Him, and will reign here on earth after His second coming until all enemies are under His feet, "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death", Revelation 20:14. Some say it will not be on earth because when Jesus first came He told Pilate His kingdom is not of this world, John 18:36. And He is now sitting on His throne and we are in the kingdom now, Colossians 1:13.

    When Jesus first came it was spiritual, for those who entered the kingdom their names were written in the book. When Jesus comes again, His second coming will be physical, it says we will ever be with the Lord 1 Thessalonians 4:17. We see in Revelation when Satan is released, they surround the camp of the saints and the beloved city, we should understand Jesus would also be there Revelation 20:9. When Jesus returns, He does not go back up He stays until all is fulfilled.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer. - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Dennis.

    Good question. Now we do know who this world belongs to. But Satan is the god of this age. 2 Corinthians 4:4.

    Don't let that shake you, Jesus said himself he's not of this word. John 8:23. John 18:36.

    Satan rules over the flesh, We have no answer for this and no hope apart from the holyspirit which we receive when we are born again. "Born from above"

    God bless.
  • Jesse - In Reply on John 18 - 3 years ago
    Samuel,

    In Verse 8, Jesus answered and said I have told you that I AM: if therefore you are seeking me, and in the Greek, this is called a first-class condition assumed to be true. He is saying since therefore you are seeking me. And check this out because this is a command in the Greek text. He says, "let these (His disciples) go their way:" He is not asking permission. It is a command, imperative mood in the Greek text!

    Verse 9: That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

    That was back in John Chapter 17 Verse 12. Now He told them that soon they will scatter. That's at the cross. Now He is saying allow these disciples to leave. That is His protection.

    Remember He said in John Chapter 10 that the shepherd goes out and he faces the wolf. A hireling won't do that. So not only is it provision that a shepherd gives, but protection.

    And here's Jesus fulfilling His prayer that all that the Father has given Him, He has not lost one. And so, they had to let them go. Why? Because Jesus commanded it! So now it is Jesus alone with the 1,000 people that came out to take Him.
  • Samuel Webb on John 18 - 3 years ago
    What does the Bible verses St. John 18:8,9 mean
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15 - 3 years ago
    Please read Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 1:26-30, here it states plural. It also reasonably suggests multiple to subdue the entire earth. Genesis 1:26, Genesis 1:28,

    Genesis 2:15, was this a separated man? If GOD had already told mankind to subdue the entire earth? Would HE really take him then to dress & tend a special garden HE had made? Or is this symbolic of the Church._. Ezekiel 28:12-15, Ezekiel 31:8-9, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 61:11, Joel 2:3? Many times Jesus refers to the "vine dresser", the "stewards", seeds, etc. Luke 13:17, Luke 13:18-21, * John 15:1,5, & many times it's about unfaithfulness of that stewardship many times relating to the "Church" & those in charge. Luke 16:2, Ironic Jesus also being crucified by Garden, John 19:41, & where Jesus was betrayed, bound, taken captive, John 18:26,27, John 18:1-12,

    Genesis 4:1-16, note Genesis 4:14,

    Then you have an unreasonable fear of being killed by vengeance which was completely irrational if there was only Adam & Eve. There in that family -2 mourning the murdered child & 1 on the run. Then you have the outrageous idea that those same two parents would give a daughter to the murderer who already disregarded his brother's life to kill him. Gross, perverted imagination!! Genesis 4:16-17 then he built a city. Genesis 19:4-25, why isn't man killed mentioned? Then Seth's birth.

    The importance of the lineage of Adam & Eve was it led to the Messiah Jesus CHRIST. Luke 3:22-38. Therefore when Eve is called the mother of all living CHRIST even addressed this as "let the dead bury the dead" pointing to spiritual death. Note it doesn't say Eve was of "life" it said mother of living._Genesis 3:20..Note also the day they would surely "die"! Genesis 2:17. Genesis 3:6-8, fear of (death?) eternal judgement? What happened? If it wasn't a spiritual death? Genesis 3:10, loss of fellowship, trust, intimacy even in marriage that's sometimes referred to "death, of the marriage"

    Genesis 6:1-6, Gen 6:6, "earth" not "garden"


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