Hope you and your husband are well, thanks for your reply, I agree Jesus will return bodily not as a spirit, the glorified body in which He was resurrected, as we will be resurrected, Phil. 3:20-21. This mortal must put on immortality, our spiritual body,
1 Cor. 15:44-53.
I know it will be amazing to see Him face to face and as we see in Revelation 21:22-23 the new Jerusalem on the new earth will not have a temple and no need for the sun or moon for light, for God and the Lamb/Jesus will be the temple and the light. John 17:5 I don't know if our minds can even imagine what that glory is, or what it looks like, but we will know when we see Him.
To add to your response I would agree that Jesus will return coming on the clouds, but also, and most importantly, He will return bodily, not as a spirit, but with flesh and bones as He showed to Thomas. There will be a difference in that His human body will be glorified, as Paul discovered on the road to Damascus, shining blindingly. But we will welcome His return and glorification as we, too, will be changed, our bodies, whether resurrected or alive at the time, will be glorified.
Jesus not only received a glorified human body upon His resurrection, but when He ascended to heaven He received back from the Father His eternal glory as the only begotten Son of God, in whom the fullness of deity dwells eternally. ( John 14:7, 10;
John 17:5) So, when He returns He will be most glorious. We will be glorified as humans, but He will be glorified as being both human and divine. How amazing it will be to behold Him in all of His glory and see Him face to face!
Paul writes on the same subject, in Galatians 5:17, "For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are opposing to one another; in order that you should not do what you want." These scriptures show that believers cannot be taken away from Christ by the flesh, because the Spirit of God is dwelling within to prevent that from happening.
Jesus Himself said, as recorded in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to me will come to me; and the one coming to me I will never cast out." He goes on to say, in John 6:39, "And this is the will of the Father who has sent me, in order that of all which he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up in the last day."
Also, in His prayer to the Father, as recorded in John 17:11-12, Jesus said, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given to me, in order that they may be one, as we are. When I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in your name; the ones who you have given to me I kept, and none of them perished, except the son of perdition; in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
I emphasize the permanency of salvation because the bible teaches that God is the one who saves, and He does so from out of His mercy. According to Paul, in Ephesians 2:8, grace, faith, and salvation are gifted from God. John says, in John 1:13, believers "were born, not from blood, nor from the will of the flesh, nor from the will of man, but from God." Therefore, according to Scripture, a human being cannot save him/herself.
Pierre1939 I think I would rather take the Word of God ((as it is written)) AS TRUTH Pierre as to take your interpretation of what you think it is saying as truth. (Pro 30:5-6) v5 "EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE". v6 ADD THOU NOT UNTO HIS WORDS, lest he reprove thee, AND THOU BE FOUND A LIAR. You are changing the Word of God like those Words have very little meaning. In ( Jer 23:36) The word (perverted) is # 2015; it means to change. You are perverting, changing the Word of God like those Words have no clear meaning. ( John 14:23) "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him". Are you keeping His Words Pierre? No you are not keeping His Words, you are (changing His Words) ( John 17:17) Tells us "Sanctify them through thy truth: THY WORD IS TRUTH. Those who add to or take away from His Words are warned of this in ( Rev 22:18-19) We should be very, very careful in treating the Word of God as if the (Words) have little meaning. ( Ps 12:6-7) The words of the LORD are pure words. No offence Pierre, but I believe these verses are 100% TRUTH. They need not to be changed by what we think they are saying. Let the Word of God speak for itself. Truth matters. Blessings.
In John 17:16, Jesus said, "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."
Wow! Just as Christ was in it, but was not of it, we also are in it, but we are not of it, which is why when we try to go back out into the world, we don't fit in. Have you ever heard anyone say something like, "Ever since I became a Christian, ever since I surrendered to Christ, I don't fit in anymore with the old crowd, or the old activities?" They try to fit in, but then they are told that they are different now. They try to fit in with the non-believing crowd, and they have difficulty doing so. Some even lose friends and family.
That's because we are no longer of the world. Our source of life is Christ. We are experiencing ZOE life in the midst of BIOS people. Them who are of this world are only existing like animals exist! The highest level of life that a human being can reach without Christ is a sophisticated animal. A person can go to college, they can be trained how to act pretty sophisticated, but a life without Christ is an empty life, a worldly life. But just as Jesus said He is not of this world; we also are not of this world if we belong to Him.
I thought you were on vacation and was not looking for your response, hope ya'll had a good time. What do these verses mean to me? John 17:22-23, the first thing that I see is John 3:16, God's love. He sent His only begotten Son into this world to die for us so that we who are called believe. God's Word, the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God.
The will of the Father that sent His only begotten Son who did the will of the One who sent Him that we may know the only true God. John 17:1-3 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The antichrist denies this. 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
May we be as one, one body in love, all working together as Ephesians 4:11-16, and not as Ephesians 4:17-19. It starts with repentance, if one cannot see the need to repent, there is no hope of salvation.
but whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of god perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
this is a condition exercised by the influence of the lord being in you!!
so this is uniquely performed amongst brothern!!
john 13:34-35.
a new commandment i give unto you, that ye love one another; as i have loved you, that ye also love one another.
( by this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.)
this is salvation at work!!
you shall know them by their fruit! matthew 7:13-23.
one can profess to believe in a grace based relationship with christ or even deceive themselves to believing they have a grace relationship with christ but can't display the fruit associated with what they claim to be truth.
this is not christ "in you"
however, there's the spirit of antichrist in th world.
1 john 2:18.
little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
this is why we examine ourselves.
they lack fruit!
1) they hate the brothern.
2)thet dont inwardly have what's mentioned in galatians 5:22-23.
Hi Natasha St John! If you read in Revelation 7:4-8 It explains that the 144,000 are out of the 12 tribes of Israel. As we read on starting with verse 9 we see that the nations that make up the rest of the world, that have their garments washed white in the blood of the Lamb, are a multitude that no man could number. So the 144,000 are only those that God has sealed, out of the 12 tribes of Israel. Now we know because God's Word is truth and there is a thread in the bible. Isaiah 64:6 says that all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags. In Matthew 7:21-23 says that God will say depart from me ye workers of iniquity. Also in
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 it says, Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. And in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So by fallowing the thread of the Bible we can clearly see that the 144,000 are only out of the 12 tribes of Israel, they are washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by God. The rest of the world is the multitude that no man can number and is also washed in the blood of Christ Jesus.
I hope this answers your question.
I always try to remember these verses; 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
There is not a person; other than Christ, that has not blasphemed God's name.
It's all about coming to "TRUTH" so we don't blaspheme his name.
It's all about what Christ did for us at HIS resurrection and coming to that "TRUTH".
You DIED with Christ, you were resurrected with Christ.
You and Christ become ONE by that resurrection, you were married to Christ, by that resurrection, you became the wife of Christ, by that resurrection, by marriage you NOW BEAR the NAME OF CHRIST.
You were baptised by the Holy Spirit IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou gavest ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (my wife), that THEY may be ONE even as WE are ONE.
Colossians 1:27 ...this MYSTERY ....of the HIS resurrection ...... CHRIST IN YOU ......
BELIEVE what God did for YOU, and you will never blaspheme GOD'S NAME.
We are the exactness of Christ, and the kingdom is VERY PHYSICAL; just not the physical that the eye of flesh can see.
We are still with CHILD until we depart this body (the RAPTURE, gathered one by one).
Then we PUT ON CHRIST; not only immortal LIFE, but also an omnipresent BODY.
Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the new creation) DIED ANYMORE: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS (omnipresent); and are the CHILDren of GOD, being the CHILDren of the Resurrection.
THE MAN Jesus Christ ....is the BODY of the of the HOLY GHOST ...... OMNIPRESENT ....He is THE ANGEL .... we don't give up our body, we just exchange the MORTAL for the IMMORTAL (the RAPTURE).
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY ...... ONE SPIRIT .....
John 17:22 And the glory that thou GAVEST ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (the new CHILD), that they may be ONE even as we are ONE.
John 1:51 ....hereafter (the resurrection) you shall see (not with the physical eye) heaven open (the BODY of man) and the angels ascending and descending of the Son of man (the new creation)---- CHRIST IN YOU ----
Isaiah 60:22 And a little one (Christ) shall BECOME a THOUSAND, a small one (Christ) a STRONG NATION (Israel).
You were raised a NEW CREATION with Christ; HIS RESURRECTION, was also YOUR RESURRECTION.
That was 2000 years ago; but he has GIVEN us his words and spirit of TRUTH, to UNDERSTAND what he did FOR US; HIS GIFT TO US, 2000 years ago.
Revelation is the revealing of Jesus Christ and those WORKS HE DID, it's not future it's past. There is nothing left to be done BUT BELIEVE THE WORK'S of HIS (and your) CROSS.
Revelation 20:5 Blessed and Holy is he who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION, it has ALREADY HAPPENED, your were saved before you were even born.
Your were saved from death 2000 years ago, your were predestined, by his resurrection, to be a SON of GOD, 2000 years ago.
There is no 7 year reign of a single antichrist, there has been 2000 years of antichrist reigning; because they don't believe God's Words: the WORK'S of GOD.
If you do't believe God's Words, you will die in your SIN, UNBELIEF, and have to be raise back to your unbelieving flesh and judged again by GOD'S WORDS.
John 16:8 And when he IS COME (Christ's second coming, as the spirit of TRUTH and spirit of PROPHECY, the HOLY GHOST) he will reprove the world of SIN, and of RIGHTEOUSNESS, and JUDGEMENT:
John 16:9 "OF SIN", because they believe not on me ----THE WORD(s).
When you close your eyes and take your last breath you are raptured at that instant into the presence of God.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath IMMORTALITY .....
1 Corinthians 15:54 ...this mortal SHALL HAVE PUT on IMMORTALITY ... HIS GIFT ...
John 17:22 ....that they may BE ONE, as we are ONE .....
Isaiah 27:12 ....and ye shall be gathered ONE BY ONE, O ye children of (the promised) ISRAEL (Christ).
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Anti means to be opposite that scripture.
A person believes his Life is himself, instead of the LIFE being GOD IN YOU.
The person believes they have FREE WILL.
If you have come to truth you understand that since God is the LIFE IN YOU, it's God's WILL being done IN YOU
There is NO SINGLE antichrist, just millions of antichrist.
1 John 2:18 ....and you have heard that antichrist shall come, even NOW are there many (millions) of antichrist
2 John 1:7 .....who confess not Jesus IS COME in the FLESH .....Christ CAME ONCE, and has already come the SECOND TIME: IN THE FLESH, you can't see him, he came like a thief in the night. The KINGDOM is not in OBSERVATION but UNDERSTANDING.
John 17:22 ....that they may be one, even as we are one ....
Because of the WORKS of the resurrection; ALL FLESH died with Christ, and ALL FLESH rose with Christ, 1 Corinthians 12:27 YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST ....
BELIEVE: Christ has COME IN the flesh: YOU and I and ALL.
Colossisns 1:27 .....THIS MYSTERY .....CHRIST IN YOU .......
Isaiah 28:1 .... that he may do his work (the WORK OF HIS CROSS), his STRANGE WORK, his ACT his STRANGE ACT .....
There is only ONE "ism": Bapt"ism" in(to) the NAME of Christ (submerged into LIVING WATER); your his wife, he has GIVEN YOU his NAME, you have BECOME ONE, as he and the Father are ONE.
Numbers 6:27 And they shall put MY NAME upon the children of ISRAEL (Christ is the promised SEED of Israel): and I will Bless Them.
2 Samuel 7:13 And He (Christ) shall BUILD a house for MY NAME, and I will establish the throne of the kingdom forever.
Isaiah 43:7 Everyone that is called by MY NAME; for I HAVE CREATED him for MY GLORY, I have formed him, I have made him.
John 17:22 The glory which thou gavest me I have given to them; that they may be ONE as we are ONE.
Hi Joshua288. We can only know who the true Jesus is, when we read about Him in the Bible. Enough is given to us to tell us Who He is & what He has accomplished for us. If there arises any other named Jesus or claims to be the real One, then he would have to have done all that the Jesus of the Bible had done. We remember the warnings given to us in the Bible, such as, 1 John 2:22,23: "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."
In this letter by John to the Churches, the person who denies the divinity of God, i.e. from out of the Person of God, proceeded the Son (called, the Word of God) and the Holy Spirit, this denier has the anti-christ spirit. They are prepared to acknowledge the historical Jesus (no one can deny that), but to believe that He is the Son of God, proceeding from God ( John 3:13; John 6:38; John 17:5), but the one who has the false spirit will refuse to believe or accept this Truth.
And many false Christs have arisen over the ages, which Jesus warned us would happen ( Matthew 24:23,24). They were all men, carnal, deceived, & now dead. Not one, nor any other in the future, can ever come close to the Jesus we read of in the Bible & if you are a Christian, to know this Jesus deep within your heart & life, by the ministry of the Holy Spirit. So, please read of the true Jesus in the Gospels & learn all you can about Him - you will find that none can ever compare to Him - none will ever love us so much as to willingly lay down His Life for us, so that we can receive salvation from our sin's penalty. All others, whether coming as a Jesus or as a Messiah of men, are all false, & can never express God's Image & Glory as the Lord Jesus Who died for us & was raised to Heaven.
Spencer Luv ya ...But you do greatly err....Spewing "man will neva be God. man will always be finite"...Have ya neva read 1st Cor..15:53...This corruption must put on incorruption and this mortality must put immortality.....We will be changed in a moment in a twinkling of the eye ...We are gonna put on immortality and incorruption....Do you not understand there is gonna be a Marriage....I saw the N.J. Coming down from heaven as bride adorned for her husband....Thus we will be married to Christ who is God the son REV 20:15....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods...Thus there will be no more finite for mankind....And the scriptures cannot be broken....Do you not feel guilty saying the words of our lord are Heresy....You are in essence saying the words of our lord are herical and sinister...I pray for you....I should not have to tells ya this but a marriage is when 2 are made 1....Rememeber his prayer in John 17:21...Father make them 1 as we are 1...Which is the mariage supper of the lamb....Which is also the 2 nd coming....
I'm not aware of any Bible verses saying the KJV is the only Word of God. There's verses saying God's Word is truth like John 17:17 but not specific to one translation.
I believe the Bible is God's inspired Word. I believe He speaks truth through the holy spirit and through us reading and seeking Him. People are imperfect; God is perfect.
I don't believe KJV is the only true Bible. The reason I believe this is that it wasn't written in English originally. Am I to believe the original languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic are somehow less accurate than an English translation? A translation by definition can't be more accurate or more truthful than that which it was translated from.
Because humans are flawed imperfect beings we can make mistakes. I'm not saying the KJV has mistakes, but some translations have had printer mistakes and accidents that are documented and undeniable. That doesn't automatically mean it changes the meaning or that God can't speak His truth through it, just like KJVs having variations of what is on the cover, or study notes in the margin, or maps, or those presented online don't necessarily change the meaning of the text. But even if there were human errors present does that mean God can't still use that to speak truth to us through our seeking Him, no, I do not believe anything will hinder someone genuinely seeking God through His word. So, I don't think our imperfection invalidates God's truth in His Word.
I also don't believe in a black and white assumption that if a printer or publisher makes a mistake that the Bible is somehow 100% false and a total lie from satan. That seems extreme to me.
Likewise, call me radical, but I also think God can speak truth false teachers we see on TV, for example. They probably started off legit but were deceived and tempted and drifted off course. That doesn't mean 100% what they say is false and that God can't use our weakness to reach souls. God does miracles.
Mark 16:17 says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;"
New tongues means new languages, known languages!
Mark 16:18 says, "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
And then Mark 16:19-20 gives us the confirmation of the word.
And all these things in Verses 16-17 were done. But please notice these next two verses carefully ( Mark 16:19-20):
"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen."
Hebrews 2:2 tells us that when the apostles went out and preached that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. And that is what he is saying here.
We know that there are various signs that were worked by Jesus through the disciples in order to confirm the message they were hearing is the gospel. It doesn't say everybody, that every person that believes down through history is going to manifest all these various things, but rather for the confirmation of the establishment of the Word of God, which we have with us today.
Some things can't be understood. I have a few thoughts here in regard to Satan's creation and fall that may be helpful.
Satan himself was created as all things as God desired; origimally as we can see from both Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 as a "Cherubim" and song worship position to glorify God in heaven. He clearly had free will; and also clearly saw spiritual realities so that he chose to rebel after becoming proud; then drew 1/3 of the angels after him ( Rev. 12:4).
God foreknew the need for the adversary for one clear reason; to test His saints as to their loyalties. Job apparently was unaware of the heavenly discussions going on with Satan and God and that Satan was the source of his troubles. Nonetheless; He tested what Satan had accused Job of; namely cursing God when things didn't go well as well as when his body was afflicted with boils.
This testing of character could also be evident when the "thorn in the flesh" that Paul had WAS clear as to its source; nonetheless GSod's grace was sufficient and He was NOT granted the healing he prayed for 3 times. ( 2 Cor. 12:7-10).
Secondly; it is necessary to lay down our lives sacrificially for the Lord or "carry our crosses daily." ( Luke 9:23). God used Satan to bring forth the "son of Perdition" with Judas Iscariot ( John 17:12 prophesied in Psalms 109:8 and elsewhere); as well as testing Peter in Matthew 16:23. Since Satan has been granted temporary authority in this world; He has been allowed both with false doctrines and outward persecution to test the saints; and ultimately; of course the Antichrist will be used when the whole world goes through its trial ( Rev. 3:10). As God draws all men to Himself (that are His sheep); He uses Satan as a "dragnet" to draw the whole world to eventually fight Christ ( Psalm 2; Rev. 19) as well as take the Mark of the Beast and worship him.
Rewards for the saints; therefore are procured through a conflict and resistance. Spiritual warfare is where victories are won.
The mark of the Beast cannot come until Antichrist comes; is worshipped by all the unregenerate; a mark is given for allegiance to him; and a death penalty is worldwide for those who will not recieve it. The allegiance will be to the man who appears to have a deadly wound then is healed from it. This prophecy can be found in Zechariah 11:17 as well as in Revelation 13. This will appear to be immortality as a type of false Resurrection as it were. The son of perdition in John 17:2 as well as 2 Thessalonians are describing the fate of Judas Iscariot; and the second verse Antichrist. These two individuals are both directly controlled by Satan; although technically the possession of the Beast is due to Apollyon king of the bottomless pit the way I see it in Revelation 9:11 which means; among other things the destroyer.
There are certainly foreshadowings today technologically speaking; and the genetic AI concept likely will also involve some sort of DNA alteration assuring eternal life for those taking it. I take chronologically most of Revelation; bolstered by "after these things" used so frequently. There will clearly be a false one world religion that will ride the beast at first; and this will be overturned at the Midpoint of the Trib. ( Rev. 17:16); as Satan only wants worship for himself. There will be a process where it appears all men will praise God after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13. I haven't heard it preached but we must remember there is the Resurrection of all the church saints; so even if the Rapture isn't seen by some the partially empty graveyards can't be denied. At any rate; men's hearts will harden to the point where they fear God and are aware of judgment coming at the sixth seal; and later on dthey will blaspheme God and attempt eventually to fight God (see also Psalm 2; Rev. 19). BTW God's people are also "sealed" ( Eph. 1:13); as well as the 144,000 ( Rev. 7:1-8) invisibly.
I read your posts, but I do not reply as much anymore but if I may. The statement Jesus was fully God and fully man, I have heard others say as well. From the time Jesus was born until He was resurrected and ascended back to heaven can this be truly said?
We read in John 17:1-5, shortly before Jesus was arrested, He prayed to the Father to be restored. Jesus left it all behind for us, the only begotten Son of God. The Bible does not clarify what that glory is, but whatever it was, it was lacking in Him while He was human. Jesus came as a human being and had to deal with life as we do, Heb. 4:15, and was obedient to the Father, Phil. 2:6-9.
Jesus was sent to fulfill the law and the prophets only man could do that. Jesus is the Messiah/Christ that God promised and sent, the Anointed One, the only begotten Son of God, and when He was baptized, He was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure to do the will of the Father that sent Him, Matt. 10:40Luke 4:18John 3:34-35John 5:30-31John 17:21.
Jesus is now back in heaven with the glory He had at the right hand of the Father and will reign until all enemies are put under His feet, 1 Cor 15:25 and we know the last one is death, Rev 20:14.
There is no other name above His, Phil. 2:9 and no other name where there is salvation, Acts 4:12.
Ephesians 4:4 .... One Spirit ..... One body ......
Ephesians 4:6 One God, and Father of ALL .....who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU all.
Isaiah 14:16 Come ye near unto me (the man Christ Jesus), hear ye this, I have not spoken in secret from the beginning, from the time that it was, there am I (the man, Christ Jesus): now the LORD GOD (my father), and HIS SPIRIT hath sent me.
Isaiah 41:27 The FIRST (man, Christ Jesus) shall say to Zion .....I (the man Christ Jesus) will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is ONE GOD, and ONE mediator between GOD and MEN, the man Christ Jesus.
1 John 2:22 ...he is antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son.
John 17:5 ...O Father, glorify me (the man, Christ Jesus) with thine own self with the glory I had with thee, before the world was.
Hebrews 10:19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (We can now come into his presence)
1 Corinthians 6:19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (Because he abides in us.)
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is "HE" that is in you, than he that is in the world. (It is a "HE" that is in you that is stronger than he that is in the world.)
John 17:21-23. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, (AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM). "The Holyspirit is God's spirit in us!
Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. (It is the father, the son, and the Holyspirit abiding in us according to these scriptures.) AND THESE THREE ARE ONE.
Ephesians 4:4-6. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
With so many scriptures like this given a would be confusing if there were no trinity.
The way you have explained it often is well represented by scripture.
Hiya Billybob...Gbu but you may want to check out John 17:5 KJV....Father, Glorify thou me with thine own self even with the Glory i had with you b/f the world was...Jesus said that all men are to honor the Son even as we honor the father....He that honoreth not the son honoreth not the Father that has sent him...And Philippians 2:6 He, Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal to God his FATHER....And Billy,... Jesus has the Power to propagate very God in us humans....When he breathe on them ( his words were his Breath/his seeds )... he said receive YE the H.G....And the H.G. is also God...Jesus was not only God the son but he has the power to propagate very God in humanity....In Genisis 1:28 Every thing has to Multiply/reproduce after its kind thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in us,...Initiating a birth of Christ in us..Our new birth..Thats y he has to know us,...Thats when that good seed is sown in us thats y he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of promise...That was the great Promise of the Multiplication of Christ as the stars of heaven in multitude....Thats y we refer to the H.G. as the Promise the H.G. IS THE MULTIPLCATION OF CHRIST IN US VIS HIS SEEDS HIS WORDS HIS BREATH...
.....And he said to whom the Word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods....impling the gift of God, the H.G. WHICH IS THE CHILD of PROMISE....Remember when God made that great Promise of multiplication he swore by himself....Thus the Gift of GOD, the H.G. is also God..A living being that is gonna be born in US via the seeds of Jesus...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil CHILD YOU WILL IN NO WISE ENTER THERE IN..OK LEMME GO...When Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me....Thats the H.G. the manchild that has to be born in us that is gonna rule all nations...The H.G. cannot be born in us without his seed the words of the book of life...Thus he has to know us...the new birth requires his seed
Hope you and your husband are well, thanks for your reply, I agree Jesus will return bodily not as a spirit, the glorified body in which He was resurrected, as we will be resurrected, Phil. 3:20-21. This mortal must put on immortality, our spiritual body,
1 Cor. 15:44-53.
I know it will be amazing to see Him face to face and as we see in Revelation 21:22-23 the new Jerusalem on the new earth will not have a temple and no need for the sun or moon for light, for God and the Lamb/Jesus will be the temple and the light. John 17:5 I don't know if our minds can even imagine what that glory is, or what it looks like, but we will know when we see Him.
I wanna be there, don't you?
God bless,
RLW
To add to your response I would agree that Jesus will return coming on the clouds, but also, and most importantly, He will return bodily, not as a spirit, but with flesh and bones as He showed to Thomas. There will be a difference in that His human body will be glorified, as Paul discovered on the road to Damascus, shining blindingly. But we will welcome His return and glorification as we, too, will be changed, our bodies, whether resurrected or alive at the time, will be glorified.
Jesus not only received a glorified human body upon His resurrection, but when He ascended to heaven He received back from the Father His eternal glory as the only begotten Son of God, in whom the fullness of deity dwells eternally. ( John 14:7, 10;
John 17:5) So, when He returns He will be most glorious. We will be glorified as humans, but He will be glorified as being both human and divine. How amazing it will be to behold Him in all of His glory and see Him face to face!
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Paul writes on the same subject, in Galatians 5:17, "For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are opposing to one another; in order that you should not do what you want." These scriptures show that believers cannot be taken away from Christ by the flesh, because the Spirit of God is dwelling within to prevent that from happening.
Jesus Himself said, as recorded in John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to me will come to me; and the one coming to me I will never cast out." He goes on to say, in John 6:39, "And this is the will of the Father who has sent me, in order that of all which he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up in the last day."
Also, in His prayer to the Father, as recorded in John 17:11-12, Jesus said, "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given to me, in order that they may be one, as we are. When I was with them in the world, I was keeping them in your name; the ones who you have given to me I kept, and none of them perished, except the son of perdition; in order that the Scripture might be fulfilled."
I emphasize the permanency of salvation because the bible teaches that God is the one who saves, and He does so from out of His mercy. According to Paul, in Ephesians 2:8, grace, faith, and salvation are gifted from God. John says, in John 1:13, believers "were born, not from blood, nor from the will of the flesh, nor from the will of man, but from God." Therefore, according to Scripture, a human being cannot save him/herself.
In John 17:16, Jesus said, "They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world."
Wow! Just as Christ was in it, but was not of it, we also are in it, but we are not of it, which is why when we try to go back out into the world, we don't fit in. Have you ever heard anyone say something like, "Ever since I became a Christian, ever since I surrendered to Christ, I don't fit in anymore with the old crowd, or the old activities?" They try to fit in, but then they are told that they are different now. They try to fit in with the non-believing crowd, and they have difficulty doing so. Some even lose friends and family.
That's because we are no longer of the world. Our source of life is Christ. We are experiencing ZOE life in the midst of BIOS people. Them who are of this world are only existing like animals exist! The highest level of life that a human being can reach without Christ is a sophisticated animal. A person can go to college, they can be trained how to act pretty sophisticated, but a life without Christ is an empty life, a worldly life. But just as Jesus said He is not of this world; we also are not of this world if we belong to Him.
I thought you were on vacation and was not looking for your response, hope ya'll had a good time. What do these verses mean to me? John 17:22-23, the first thing that I see is John 3:16, God's love. He sent His only begotten Son into this world to die for us so that we who are called believe. God's Word, the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God.
The will of the Father that sent His only begotten Son who did the will of the One who sent Him that we may know the only true God. John 17:1-3 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The antichrist denies this. 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
May we be as one, one body in love, all working together as Ephesians 4:11-16, and not as Ephesians 4:17-19. It starts with repentance, if one cannot see the need to repent, there is no hope of salvation.
God bless,
RLW
what does these verses mean to you?
1 john 2:5-6.
but whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of god perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
this is a condition exercised by the influence of the lord being in you!!
so this is uniquely performed amongst brothern!!
john 13:34-35.
a new commandment i give unto you, that ye love one another; as i have loved you, that ye also love one another.
( by this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.)
this is salvation at work!!
you shall know them by their fruit! matthew 7:13-23.
one can profess to believe in a grace based relationship with christ or even deceive themselves to believing they have a grace relationship with christ but can't display the fruit associated with what they claim to be truth.
this is not christ "in you"
however, there's the spirit of antichrist in th world.
1 john 2:18.
little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
this is why we examine ourselves.
they lack fruit!
1) they hate the brothern.
2)thet dont inwardly have what's mentioned in galatians 5:22-23.
"love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
they that are christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
contrary to fruit is;
idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like:
if we live in the spirit, let us also walk in the spirit.
let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
sadly a part of eschatology that won't last a week.
god bless.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 it says, Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. And in Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. So by fallowing the thread of the Bible we can clearly see that the 144,000 are only out of the 12 tribes of Israel, they are washed in the blood of the Lamb and sealed by God. The rest of the world is the multitude that no man can number and is also washed in the blood of Christ Jesus.
I hope this answers your question.
I always try to remember these verses; 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
I seldom ever say anything without quoting scripture.
I am more than happy to have you show where that scripture is not true, but use scripture not what man says.
You don't believe Psalms 82:6 ye are Gods ..
You believe Christ is God; ONE with the Father, and the Father is God, one with Christ.
John 17:21 That they all may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE IN US ....
Colossians 1:27 ....Christ in you ....
Why if the father and son are ONE and they are God, would not you believe we are God if we are the same ONE IN THEM.
Why don't you believe these scriptures, because they don't fit the teaching of MAN, that's why.
Whose right: MAN or God's WORD?
Rebut with scripture.
God Bless YOU!
There is not a person; other than Christ, that has not blasphemed God's name.
It's all about coming to "TRUTH" so we don't blaspheme his name.
It's all about what Christ did for us at HIS resurrection and coming to that "TRUTH".
You DIED with Christ, you were resurrected with Christ.
You and Christ become ONE by that resurrection, you were married to Christ, by that resurrection, you became the wife of Christ, by that resurrection, by marriage you NOW BEAR the NAME OF CHRIST.
You were baptised by the Holy Spirit IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou gavest ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (my wife), that THEY may be ONE even as WE are ONE.
Colossians 1:27 ...this MYSTERY ....of the HIS resurrection ...... CHRIST IN YOU ......
BELIEVE what God did for YOU, and you will never blaspheme GOD'S NAME.
God BLESS YOU!
We are the exactness of Christ, and the kingdom is VERY PHYSICAL; just not the physical that the eye of flesh can see.
We are still with CHILD until we depart this body (the RAPTURE, gathered one by one).
Then we PUT ON CHRIST; not only immortal LIFE, but also an omnipresent BODY.
Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the new creation) DIED ANYMORE: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS (omnipresent); and are the CHILDren of GOD, being the CHILDren of the Resurrection.
THE MAN Jesus Christ ....is the BODY of the of the HOLY GHOST ...... OMNIPRESENT ....He is THE ANGEL .... we don't give up our body, we just exchange the MORTAL for the IMMORTAL (the RAPTURE).
Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY ...... ONE SPIRIT .....
John 17:22 And the glory that thou GAVEST ME, I have GIVEN to THEM (the new CHILD), that they may be ONE even as we are ONE.
John 1:51 ....hereafter (the resurrection) you shall see (not with the physical eye) heaven open (the BODY of man) and the angels ascending and descending of the Son of man (the new creation)---- CHRIST IN YOU ----
Isaiah 60:22 And a little one (Christ) shall BECOME a THOUSAND, a small one (Christ) a STRONG NATION (Israel).
God Bless YOU!
When did you become a NEW CREATION?
You were raised a NEW CREATION with Christ; HIS RESURRECTION, was also YOUR RESURRECTION.
That was 2000 years ago; but he has GIVEN us his words and spirit of TRUTH, to UNDERSTAND what he did FOR US; HIS GIFT TO US, 2000 years ago.
Revelation is the revealing of Jesus Christ and those WORKS HE DID, it's not future it's past. There is nothing left to be done BUT BELIEVE THE WORK'S of HIS (and your) CROSS.
Revelation 20:5 Blessed and Holy is he who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION, it has ALREADY HAPPENED, your were saved before you were even born.
Your were saved from death 2000 years ago, your were predestined, by his resurrection, to be a SON of GOD, 2000 years ago.
There is no 7 year reign of a single antichrist, there has been 2000 years of antichrist reigning; because they don't believe God's Words: the WORK'S of GOD.
If you do't believe God's Words, you will die in your SIN, UNBELIEF, and have to be raise back to your unbelieving flesh and judged again by GOD'S WORDS.
John 16:8 And when he IS COME (Christ's second coming, as the spirit of TRUTH and spirit of PROPHECY, the HOLY GHOST) he will reprove the world of SIN, and of RIGHTEOUSNESS, and JUDGEMENT:
John 16:9 "OF SIN", because they believe not on me ----THE WORD(s).
When you close your eyes and take your last breath you are raptured at that instant into the presence of God.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath IMMORTALITY .....
1 Corinthians 15:54 ...this mortal SHALL HAVE PUT on IMMORTALITY ... HIS GIFT ...
John 17:22 ....that they may BE ONE, as we are ONE .....
Isaiah 27:12 ....and ye shall be gathered ONE BY ONE, O ye children of (the promised) ISRAEL (Christ).
God Bless YOU!
John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Anti means to be opposite that scripture.
A person believes his Life is himself, instead of the LIFE being GOD IN YOU.
The person believes they have FREE WILL.
If you have come to truth you understand that since God is the LIFE IN YOU, it's God's WILL being done IN YOU
There is NO SINGLE antichrist, just millions of antichrist.
1 John 2:18 ....and you have heard that antichrist shall come, even NOW are there many (millions) of antichrist
2 John 1:7 .....who confess not Jesus IS COME in the FLESH .....Christ CAME ONCE, and has already come the SECOND TIME: IN THE FLESH, you can't see him, he came like a thief in the night. The KINGDOM is not in OBSERVATION but UNDERSTANDING.
John 17:22 ....that they may be one, even as we are one ....
Because of the WORKS of the resurrection; ALL FLESH died with Christ, and ALL FLESH rose with Christ, 1 Corinthians 12:27 YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST ....
BELIEVE: Christ has COME IN the flesh: YOU and I and ALL.
Colossisns 1:27 .....THIS MYSTERY .....CHRIST IN YOU .......
Isaiah 28:1 .... that he may do his work (the WORK OF HIS CROSS), his STRANGE WORK, his ACT his STRANGE ACT .....
A NEW CREATION
FEW believe this, it makes for many antichrist.
God Bless YOU!
There is only ONE "ism": Bapt"ism" in(to) the NAME of Christ (submerged into LIVING WATER); your his wife, he has GIVEN YOU his NAME, you have BECOME ONE, as he and the Father are ONE.
Numbers 6:27 And they shall put MY NAME upon the children of ISRAEL (Christ is the promised SEED of Israel): and I will Bless Them.
2 Samuel 7:13 And He (Christ) shall BUILD a house for MY NAME, and I will establish the throne of the kingdom forever.
Isaiah 43:7 Everyone that is called by MY NAME; for I HAVE CREATED him for MY GLORY, I have formed him, I have made him.
John 17:22 The glory which thou gavest me I have given to them; that they may be ONE as we are ONE.
God Bless YOU!
In this letter by John to the Churches, the person who denies the divinity of God, i.e. from out of the Person of God, proceeded the Son (called, the Word of God) and the Holy Spirit, this denier has the anti-christ spirit. They are prepared to acknowledge the historical Jesus (no one can deny that), but to believe that He is the Son of God, proceeding from God ( John 3:13; John 6:38; John 17:5), but the one who has the false spirit will refuse to believe or accept this Truth.
And many false Christs have arisen over the ages, which Jesus warned us would happen ( Matthew 24:23,24). They were all men, carnal, deceived, & now dead. Not one, nor any other in the future, can ever come close to the Jesus we read of in the Bible & if you are a Christian, to know this Jesus deep within your heart & life, by the ministry of the Holy Spirit. So, please read of the true Jesus in the Gospels & learn all you can about Him - you will find that none can ever compare to Him - none will ever love us so much as to willingly lay down His Life for us, so that we can receive salvation from our sin's penalty. All others, whether coming as a Jesus or as a Messiah of men, are all false, & can never express God's Image & Glory as the Lord Jesus Who died for us & was raised to Heaven.
I'm not aware of any Bible verses saying the KJV is the only Word of God. There's verses saying God's Word is truth like John 17:17 but not specific to one translation.
I believe the Bible is God's inspired Word. I believe He speaks truth through the holy spirit and through us reading and seeking Him. People are imperfect; God is perfect.
I don't believe KJV is the only true Bible. The reason I believe this is that it wasn't written in English originally. Am I to believe the original languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic are somehow less accurate than an English translation? A translation by definition can't be more accurate or more truthful than that which it was translated from.
Because humans are flawed imperfect beings we can make mistakes. I'm not saying the KJV has mistakes, but some translations have had printer mistakes and accidents that are documented and undeniable. That doesn't automatically mean it changes the meaning or that God can't speak His truth through it, just like KJVs having variations of what is on the cover, or study notes in the margin, or maps, or those presented online don't necessarily change the meaning of the text. But even if there were human errors present does that mean God can't still use that to speak truth to us through our seeking Him, no, I do not believe anything will hinder someone genuinely seeking God through His word. So, I don't think our imperfection invalidates God's truth in His Word.
I also don't believe in a black and white assumption that if a printer or publisher makes a mistake that the Bible is somehow 100% false and a total lie from satan. That seems extreme to me.
Likewise, call me radical, but I also think God can speak truth false teachers we see on TV, for example. They probably started off legit but were deceived and tempted and drifted off course. That doesn't mean 100% what they say is false and that God can't use our weakness to reach souls. God does miracles.
My apology. That was Hebrews 2:4, not Verse 2.
Mark 16:17 says, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;"
New tongues means new languages, known languages!
Mark 16:18 says, "They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
And then Mark 16:19-20 gives us the confirmation of the word.
And all these things in Verses 16-17 were done. But please notice these next two verses carefully ( Mark 16:19-20):
"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen."
Hebrews 2:2 tells us that when the apostles went out and preached that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. And that is what he is saying here.
We know that there are various signs that were worked by Jesus through the disciples in order to confirm the message they were hearing is the gospel. It doesn't say everybody, that every person that believes down through history is going to manifest all these various things, but rather for the confirmation of the establishment of the Word of God, which we have with us today.
Hope this helps!
Satan himself was created as all things as God desired; origimally as we can see from both Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 as a "Cherubim" and song worship position to glorify God in heaven. He clearly had free will; and also clearly saw spiritual realities so that he chose to rebel after becoming proud; then drew 1/3 of the angels after him ( Rev. 12:4).
God foreknew the need for the adversary for one clear reason; to test His saints as to their loyalties. Job apparently was unaware of the heavenly discussions going on with Satan and God and that Satan was the source of his troubles. Nonetheless; He tested what Satan had accused Job of; namely cursing God when things didn't go well as well as when his body was afflicted with boils.
This testing of character could also be evident when the "thorn in the flesh" that Paul had WAS clear as to its source; nonetheless GSod's grace was sufficient and He was NOT granted the healing he prayed for 3 times. ( 2 Cor. 12:7-10).
Secondly; it is necessary to lay down our lives sacrificially for the Lord or "carry our crosses daily." ( Luke 9:23). God used Satan to bring forth the "son of Perdition" with Judas Iscariot ( John 17:12 prophesied in Psalms 109:8 and elsewhere); as well as testing Peter in Matthew 16:23. Since Satan has been granted temporary authority in this world; He has been allowed both with false doctrines and outward persecution to test the saints; and ultimately; of course the Antichrist will be used when the whole world goes through its trial ( Rev. 3:10). As God draws all men to Himself (that are His sheep); He uses Satan as a "dragnet" to draw the whole world to eventually fight Christ ( Psalm 2; Rev. 19) as well as take the Mark of the Beast and worship him.
Rewards for the saints; therefore are procured through a conflict and resistance. Spiritual warfare is where victories are won.
There are certainly foreshadowings today technologically speaking; and the genetic AI concept likely will also involve some sort of DNA alteration assuring eternal life for those taking it. I take chronologically most of Revelation; bolstered by "after these things" used so frequently. There will clearly be a false one world religion that will ride the beast at first; and this will be overturned at the Midpoint of the Trib. ( Rev. 17:16); as Satan only wants worship for himself. There will be a process where it appears all men will praise God after the Rapture in Revelation 5:13. I haven't heard it preached but we must remember there is the Resurrection of all the church saints; so even if the Rapture isn't seen by some the partially empty graveyards can't be denied. At any rate; men's hearts will harden to the point where they fear God and are aware of judgment coming at the sixth seal; and later on dthey will blaspheme God and attempt eventually to fight God (see also Psalm 2; Rev. 19). BTW God's people are also "sealed" ( Eph. 1:13); as well as the 144,000 ( Rev. 7:1-8) invisibly.
But I do think that He wants us to go there. And I do think this forum is a most appropriate place to bring forward truth about
Him. With the vast array of topics that arise on this forum, those that address the nature and Being of God come along too
infrequently. He is the object of our faith, the One we worship, so learning more and more about Him is every so beneficial.
Knowing Him in truth through the Spirit really is vital to our faith, for to learn falseness about Him is from another spirit and
leads us to worship a god who is not Him who revealed Himself to us in Scripture, history, and in the physical universe.
We are to worship God with all of our being, so employing our God-given mind and its capacities to apprehend Him more and
more is doing just that. This is what our minds were made for and since our minds have been sanctified along with the rest of
us, we should be pursuing knowledge of God, which is what Jesus said is eternal life in John 17:3. Of course, it is not just with
our intellect that we know Him, but with our hearts and soul and whole being as well.
Thanks for your reply.
I read your posts, but I do not reply as much anymore but if I may. The statement Jesus was fully God and fully man, I have heard others say as well. From the time Jesus was born until He was resurrected and ascended back to heaven can this be truly said?
We read in John 17:1-5, shortly before Jesus was arrested, He prayed to the Father to be restored. Jesus left it all behind for us, the only begotten Son of God. The Bible does not clarify what that glory is, but whatever it was, it was lacking in Him while He was human. Jesus came as a human being and had to deal with life as we do, Heb. 4:15, and was obedient to the Father, Phil. 2:6-9.
Jesus was sent to fulfill the law and the prophets only man could do that. Jesus is the Messiah/Christ that God promised and sent, the Anointed One, the only begotten Son of God, and when He was baptized, He was anointed with the Holy Spirit without measure to do the will of the Father that sent Him, Matt. 10:40 Luke 4:18 John 3:34-35 John 5:30-31 John 17:21.
Jesus is now back in heaven with the glory He had at the right hand of the Father and will reign until all enemies are put under His feet, 1 Cor 15:25 and we know the last one is death, Rev 20:14.
There is no other name above His, Phil. 2:9 and no other name where there is salvation, Acts 4:12.
God bless,
RLW
Ephesians 4:4 .... One Spirit ..... One body ......
Ephesians 4:6 One God, and Father of ALL .....who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU all.
Isaiah 14:16 Come ye near unto me (the man Christ Jesus), hear ye this, I have not spoken in secret from the beginning, from the time that it was, there am I (the man, Christ Jesus): now the LORD GOD (my father), and HIS SPIRIT hath sent me.
Isaiah 41:27 The FIRST (man, Christ Jesus) shall say to Zion .....I (the man Christ Jesus) will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is ONE GOD, and ONE mediator between GOD and MEN, the man Christ Jesus.
1 John 2:22 ...he is antichrist, who denieth the Father and the Son.
John 17:5 ...O Father, glorify me (the man, Christ Jesus) with thine own self with the glory I had with thee, before the world was.
God Bless you.
Hebrews 10:19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, (We can now come into his presence)
1 Corinthians 6:19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? (Because he abides in us.)
1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is "HE" that is in you, than he that is in the world. (It is a "HE" that is in you that is stronger than he that is in the world.)
John 17:21-23. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man loves me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, (AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM). "The Holyspirit is God's spirit in us!
Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. (It is the father, the son, and the Holyspirit abiding in us according to these scriptures.) AND THESE THREE ARE ONE.
Ephesians 4:4-6. There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, AND IN YOU ALL.
With so many scriptures like this given a would be confusing if there were no trinity.
The way you have explained it often is well represented by scripture.
God bless you.
.....And he said to whom the Word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods....impling the gift of God, the H.G. WHICH IS THE CHILD of PROMISE....Remember when God made that great Promise of multiplication he swore by himself....Thus the Gift of GOD, the H.G. is also God..A living being that is gonna be born in US via the seeds of Jesus...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil CHILD YOU WILL IN NO WISE ENTER THERE IN..OK LEMME GO...When Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me....Thats the H.G. the manchild that has to be born in us that is gonna rule all nations...The H.G. cannot be born in us without his seed the words of the book of life...Thus he has to know us...the new birth requires his seed
Jesus says this about them:
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Luke 17:2 KJV
Jesus said this to his Father:
I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
John 17:9 KJV
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Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?
God said let us make man in our image.
God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)
Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendeth forth thy Spirit, they are created, thou renewest the face of the earth.
John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).
John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....
Colossians 1:2 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....
Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
You must be born again: understand what awaits you when you leave this body of flesh.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....
1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).
1 Corinthians 15:28 ....that God may be ALL in ALL.
Ephesians 4:4 ....One Spirit (eternal life)......One Body (creation, that inherited eternal life)
God bless you.