Matthew 23:19= You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?NIV
=You blind= in John 9:39-41- ''39=Jesus said, for judgment I have come into the world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.'' 40=Some Pharisees who were with Him heard Him say this and asked, 'what? are we blind too?' 41=Jesus said,'If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.''and also in John 5:39-40.
Which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred?= which one is bigger the giver or the or receiver. In 1Corinthians 12:4-11= which one is master the gifts or the one who gives. John 17:17= ''Sanctify them by the truth; Your Word is truth.'' - which one is mighter the Sactifier or those who sactified.
GB
Jahweh is the old testament covenant name for God(Ex6v2-3), Jesus(Jahshua) is the new testament covenant name for our God, it is written "...you shall call his name Jesus, for He shall save his people from their sins."Mt1v18-21, There is no other name under heaven except the name of Jesus(Acts4v10-12). Truly Jahweh of the old testament is Jesus of the new testament, the same God all the way only in flesh this time.
Please notice in verse 2 it states in part Abraham begate Isaac, and Isaac begate Iacob.... Begate is another word for begotten. A direct decendant of another. Jesus is the only (exclusive) begotten son of God. Clearly noted in 1 JO 4:9 . 9�By this the love of God was made manifest in our case, because God sent forth his only-begotten Son into the world that we might gain life through him. More conclusive proof that Jesus (while he is most important to our everlasting life) is not God the Almighty, but the direct representation of Him. Clearer still is John 17:3 . 3�This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. You have to ask the question, does this in any way suggest that the Christ sent himself? Or was he in fact sent by someone else?
Yes God does have a specific Name .It is Yahweh or Jehovah which are derived from the tetragrammaton YHWH which are actually the Hebrew letters yod,hey,vav,heh (hebrew reads from right to left)This name was given to Moses when he asked God in Exodus who should he say had sent him .Hope this helps
God's name was presented in Jesus' character! There is no specific name for God. Love, patience kindness, all the good stuff..that is Gods name, that is how we identify Him.
Can one be with one and be one at the same time. verse 2 reafirms that the Word was with God.
Verse 18 says no NO ONE has seen God at ANY time!
Jesus explained him. Seeing Jesus was LIKE seeing
God because he was "the image of the invisible God
the first born of every creature" ( Col 1:15,2 Cor 4:4 Heb 1:3) in this way it can be said " I and the Father are one" ( John 10:30) & "he that has seen me has seen the Father" ( John 14:9) There is no mystery. Jesus is the the SON of the one and only true God ( John 17:3) He himself said I ascend unto my father and your father; and to my God and your God.( John 20:17)
This reasoning harmonizes with the whole Bible with no contradictions.
Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three �Persons� are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.
What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?
The New Encyclop�dia Britannica says: �Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: �Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord� ( Deut. 6:4). .�.�. The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. .�.�. By the end of the 4th century .�.�. the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.��(1976), Microp�dia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: �The formulation �one God in three Persons� was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.��(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: �Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on�the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.��(1956), Vol.�XXVII, p. 294L.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, �The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. .�.�. This Greek philosopher�s [Plato, fourth century�B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity .�.�. can be�found�in all the ancient [pagan] religions.��(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lach�tre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: �The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of �person� and �nature� which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as �essence� and �substance� were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.��(New York, 1965), p. 899.
Jesus is the the fleshly representation of God's word. Hense he is known as the Word, and there are other descriptions we will confirm. The Greek vernacular of the scripture tranalated interlinearly says (John1:1,"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was toward the God, and god was the Word." the Greek spellings of God is capitalized in "toward the God" and not capitalized in," god was the Word." When translated from the Greek root meaning, it reads in english this way, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God , and the Word was a god." Jesus is a god. Not God the Almighty.
Jesus is also known in the scriptures as the Son of man. ( Acts 7:56) and he said: �Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God�s right hand.�Compare, Matthew 25:31) �When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.
If The Son of man (Jesus)is God Almighty would it be reasonable for him to approach one greater than himself? Consider if you will DAN 7:9,10..�9)"I kept on beholding until there were thrones placed and the Ancient of Days sat down. His clothing was white just like snow, and the hair of his head was like clean wool. His throne was flames of fire; its wheels were a burning fire. 10)�There was a stream of fire flowing and going out from before him. There were a thousand thousands that kept ministering to him, and ten thousand times ten thousand that kept standing right before him. The Court took its seat, and there were books that were opened...
Continuing, DAN 7:13,14��I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14)�And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.(The Ancient of Days clearly describes God)
Compare; ( Hebrews 1:1-4,6) 1) God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2)�has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. 3)�He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. 4)�So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs........verse 6)�But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: �And let all God�s angels do obeisance to him.� Compare also Matthew 25:31) �When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. ( Acts 7:56) and he said: �Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God�s right hand.� Clearly two distinct entities.
Another scripture taken from the Greek Scriptures (New Testament) shows that Jesus is before all creation (God Almighty's only direct creation). In the Greek writings the wording would appear this way. John 17:5 ,"and now glorify me you, Father,beside to yourself to the glory which I was having before of the the world to be beside you. Translated in english to say,"So now you,Father,glorify me beside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.
Notice in Hebrews 1:6 it mentions Jesus as being Firstborn. Jesus was with God ions before the 6 days of creation. In fact all things were created by God through Jesus, Col 1:15-17 (again line for line the Greek would read) "who is image of the God the invisible, firstborn of all creation, because in him it was created the all (things)in the heavens and upon the earth, the (things) visible and the (things) invisible, whether thrones or lordships or governments or authorities;the all (things) through him and into him it has been created; and he is before all(things)and the all (things) in him it has stood together. Versed in englih it reads , "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all other (things) were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,no matter whether they are thrones,or lordships, or governments or authorities. All other(things)have been created through him and for him. Also he is before all (other) things and by means of him all (other) things were made to exist." Before time as we know it, Jesus was the only direct creation by God (Jehovah). Then all things were created by God (Jehovah) through Jesus. Therefore we read as previously mentioned by Joe on 10/15/2011 @9:38 am,(God speaking to Jesus)," God said in Ge 1:26 "Let US make man in OUR own image."
Jesus in the Greek is Iesous' and in Hebrew it is Yeshua and means (Jehovah Is Salvation)as mentioned by Ray R on 10/12/2011 @ 2:40 am. This should not be misconstrued to mean it is another name or descriptive identity of Jesus. Note other names and their meanings in the bible; Jeconiah (Jehovah Firmly Establishes), Jecoliah (Jehovah Has been Able), Jeberechiah (Jehovah Blesses), Jedidiah (Beloved of Jah) Jah being the short version of Jehovah , example Ha-le-lu-jah meaning praise be to Jehovah.
Clearly these others are in no connection with Jesus nor are they considered to be God The Almighty. Their names describe who Jehovah is and what He is synonymus with. Jesus is our very salvation in that he was the sacrificial lamb provided by Jehovah for covering mans sins. Reasonably then, Jesus being the very sacrifice given for us would be the correct and rightful meaning of his name,"Jesus" meaning (Jehovah Is Salvation). Also mentioned was the Christ meaning: Annointed. Annointing is an act of one individual to another. Indicating two distinct individuals.
On a final note Jesus in reply to his disciples questions at Matthew 24:3 explains the sign of his presence and the occurrence of things at the conclusion of this system. Better known as Armageddon. Jesus words at Matthew 24:36, " Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens, nor the Son,but only the Father." In a trinitarian godship all godheads are omnipotent. All have exact power. Equal if you will. Not one greater than the other. All knowing of everything together. Jesus clearly stated he did not know the day or hour. Only the Father knew that time frame. Jesus spoke of how some one could speak against him (The Son of man)and be forgiven, but speaking against the holy spirit would never be forgiven.( MT 12:32) Again this would not stand to reason in a trinitarian worship.
Accurate knowledge is the means of salvation. Jesus said in John 17:3 "This means ever lasting life, their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."
Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords he also said if we dnt have the spirit of Christ we are none of his we all have 2 seek the lord with our hold hearts cuz we can not get 2 the father only through his son n the because of salvation that given free 2 us because Jesus paid the price for us that we may have life
Chapter 17 Fill me with HOPE in the gospel for the present & future, Because I know and am Confident that the Father hears and answers all the prayers of His Son on my behalf, yours as-well, do you agree?
I believe in JEHOVAH.Jesus wanted his fathers name known. John :5:43, John 17:11, John 12:13,28 Lord is a tittle. 1Co 8:5,6 Mt6:9. Ex 6:3. Isa 42:8..( John 8:44)( John 4:24)Deuteronomy12:32 I believe todays versions are just that,a version. Matthew 15:9 and Ephesians 4:14 Doctrines of man. 1John 5:19.....
John :5:43, John 17:11, John 12:13,28 Lord is a tittle. 1Co 8:5,6 Mt6:9. Ex 6:3. Isa 42:8..( John 8:44)( John 4:24)Deuteronomy12:32 I believe todays versions are just that,a version. Matthew 15:9 and Ephesians 4:14 Doctrines of man. 1John 5:19.....
V. 21. This may be the only recorded Lord's prayer for his church. He travails to God for us (believers) to be unified as one body as He and the Father are one, so that the world may believe that the Father sent Jesus. He was about to pay the ultimate price to restore us to God, and it seems that the oneness of believers was the key to the world believing. Have our religious divisions hindered the world from receiving God's grace provision? Let's practice our unity in Jesus and allow Him to disolve those differences. Religion is most often enemy to the cross of Christ; It crucified the Savior.
Dear Linda, I wanted to respond also to the part of your letter about God's Word saying that no man has seen God at anytime. I found the scripture, and some more that relate to it. No man can see God, but mankind, to whomever He will reveal Himself, can see His Christ; His Image; His only begotten Son, which is also His Word; words, and is the Sword of His Spirit, and we can see God, the Father IN the Face of God's Word; God's only begotten Son; Christ Jesus. The reason Christ is the ONLY begotten of God; the Father, is because Christ was always with God, always existed, was always part of that which is God, and literally CAME FORTH from God. All mankind that receives Christ is born of; begotten of, God BY Christ; BY God's Word, and by His Spirit, thus the Spirit of God's Word. For, the WORDS of Christ are spirit and life.
It is IN the Face; the WORDS, of Christ, that we see; perceive, and come to know, the Father. As, Christ Jesus is the EXPRESS Image of God, the Father. As, Christ was/is the very HEART of God, the Father, expressed unto us. Christ IS the Word, and thus the WORDS of the Father, speaking unto us. As it is written:
I John 3:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
When Christ Jesus says 'My words,' they are not His as far as where; Who, they came from. The words of God's Word; Christ, are the words of His Father, just as Christ; God's Word, is God's; the Father's.
There are so many beautiful and deep things touched upon in the prayer that Jesus Christ prayed to His Father in John, chapter 17. One thing is that He says, in so many words, 'Father, you gave mankind ME, and I gave them your WORDS.
John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou GAVEST THEM ME; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have GIVEN unto them THE WORDS which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
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John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
_________________________________________________ John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD at any time; the only begotten Son, which is IN THE BOSOM bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED him.
John 6:63 (Jesus said...)63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
_______________________________________________ 2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God IN THE FACE of Jesus Christ.
Psalms 27:8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with THY LIKENESS.
________________________________________________ I John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, NOW are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when HE shall appear, we shall be LIKE HIM; for we shall see him as he is.
_________________________________________________ Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being THE BRIGHTNESS his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
The PEOPLES BIBLE above says it so well. Too often, our cultured biases seem more important to us than our unity in Christ. If only we would differentiate between life in Jesus and religion, and live it out, our world would be more attracted to Jesus. Love ya!
John 17 reveals the depth, the height, and the width of God's love for us. It is the most awesome Divine manifestation of God's love for us, which is personified in His Son Our Lord Jesus The Christ. The entire Divine Plan of Salvation is revealed in this Most Holy words of Scripture. I tremble when I read it.
The name of God is manefested in our hearts for our witness of Him to be shown to others that are called, not to bring recognition to our selves, but to bring glory to Him, not to be pridefull for knowing mens doctrines, but humbly love our saviour for giving us access to Heavenly Father.
JESUS was praying directly to GOD, the FATHER, as the SON. "That they all may be one, as thou Father art in mee, and I in thee, that they also may bee one in vs: that the world may beleeue that thou hast sent mee." That is why HE didn't mention the Name of GOD.
Notice that Jesus made God's name made known in verse 6. It is sad that many translations have taken out God's name, which is JEHOVAH. They say that his name is too divine to repeat. Yet Jesus apparently said it then.
i believe many people were used as an example of Gods kingdom, such as Jobs children that satan had distroy, and those who don't get called by Him. Thats why we shouldn't feed whats holy to dogs, but those who are called
This fervent prayer of Jesus Christ tells us that true worshipers of God and his followers might be object of hatred in all nations because they fulfill all that he commissioned them to do, more so in proclaiming the Divine Name of God- Jehovah, but many rejected.(see John 17:6,14,26
listening to His prayer brings great hope for the believer to know He is with us and we are with Him where He resides. So as we walk in this world we are also walking in His world with the Father
jesus is looking up to heaven and is speaking to holy father .we are of command to call no man on earth your father for your father is in heaven. what of this 'pope' ?
as i read these chapters i came to realize Christ called each disciple 1 by one not with great pomp but a gentle come follow me after that did they receive power to do miracles in his name They believed his word and they were anointed to do his work
chap 17 is all about the prayer Jesus prayed and mostly for His Disciples not only so its the whole chapter where Jesus spent time praying in that time
=You blind= in John 9:39-41- ''39=Jesus said, for judgment I have come into the world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.'' 40=Some Pharisees who were with Him heard Him say this and asked, 'what? are we blind too?' 41=Jesus said,'If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.''and also in John 5:39-40.
Which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred?= which one is bigger the giver or the or receiver. In 1Corinthians 12:4-11= which one is master the gifts or the one who gives.
John 17:17= ''Sanctify them by the truth; Your Word is truth.'' - which one is mighter the Sactifier or those who sactified.
GB
Verse 18 says no NO ONE has seen God at ANY time!
Jesus explained him. Seeing Jesus was LIKE seeing
God because he was "the image of the invisible God
the first born of every creature" ( Col 1:15,2 Cor 4:4 Heb 1:3) in this way it can be said " I and the Father are one" ( John 10:30) & "he that has seen me has seen the Father" ( John 14:9) There is no mystery. Jesus is the the SON of the one and only true God ( John 17:3) He himself said I ascend unto my father and your father; and to my God and your God.( John 20:17)
This reasoning harmonizes with the whole Bible with no contradictions.
Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three �Persons� are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.
What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?
The New Encyclop�dia Britannica says: �Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: �Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord� ( Deut. 6:4). .�.�. The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. .�.�. By the end of the 4th century .�.�. the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.��(1976), Microp�dia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: �The formulation �one God in three Persons� was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.��(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: �Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on�the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.��(1956), Vol.�XXVII, p. 294L.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, �The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. .�.�. This Greek philosopher�s [Plato, fourth century�B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity .�.�. can be�found�in all the ancient [pagan] religions.��(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lach�tre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: �The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of �person� and �nature� which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as �essence� and �substance� were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.��(New York, 1965), p. 899.
Jesus is the the fleshly representation of God's word. Hense he is known as the Word, and there are other descriptions we will confirm. The Greek vernacular of the scripture tranalated interlinearly says (John1:1,"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was toward the God, and god was the Word." the Greek spellings of God is capitalized in "toward the God" and not capitalized in," god was the Word." When translated from the Greek root meaning, it reads in english this way, " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God , and the Word was a god." Jesus is a god. Not God the Almighty.
Jesus is also known in the scriptures as the Son of man. ( Acts 7:56) and he said: �Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God�s right hand.�Compare, Matthew 25:31) �When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.
If The Son of man (Jesus)is God Almighty would it be reasonable for him to approach one greater than himself? Consider if you will DAN 7:9,10..�9)"I kept on beholding until there were thrones placed and the Ancient of Days sat down. His clothing was white just like snow, and the hair of his head was like clean wool. His throne was flames of fire; its wheels were a burning fire. 10)�There was a stream of fire flowing and going out from before him. There were a thousand thousands that kept ministering to him, and ten thousand times ten thousand that kept standing right before him. The Court took its seat, and there were books that were opened...
Continuing, DAN 7:13,14��I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days he gained access, and they brought him up close even before that One. 14)�And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.(The Ancient of Days clearly describes God)
Compare; ( Hebrews 1:1-4,6) 1) God, who long ago spoke on many occasions and in many ways to our forefathers by means of the prophets, 2)�has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. 3)�He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. 4)�So he has become better than the angels, to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs........verse 6)�But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: �And let all God�s angels do obeisance to him.� Compare also Matthew 25:31) �When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. ( Acts 7:56) and he said: �Look! I behold the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God�s right hand.� Clearly two distinct entities.
Another scripture taken from the Greek Scriptures (New Testament) shows that Jesus is before all creation (God Almighty's only direct creation). In the Greek writings the wording would appear this way. John 17:5 ,"and now glorify me you, Father,beside to yourself to the glory which I was having before of the the world to be beside you. Translated in english to say,"So now you,Father,glorify me beside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.
Notice in Hebrews 1:6 it mentions Jesus as being Firstborn. Jesus was with God ions before the 6 days of creation. In fact all things were created by God through Jesus, Col 1:15-17 (again line for line the Greek would read) "who is image of the God the invisible, firstborn of all creation, because in him it was created the all (things)in the heavens and upon the earth, the (things) visible and the (things) invisible, whether thrones or lordships or governments or authorities;the all (things) through him and into him it has been created; and he is before all(things)and the all (things) in him it has stood together. Versed in englih it reads , "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all other (things) were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,no matter whether they are thrones,or lordships, or governments or authorities. All other(things)have been created through him and for him. Also he is before all (other) things and by means of him all (other) things were made to exist." Before time as we know it, Jesus was the only direct creation by God (Jehovah). Then all things were created by God (Jehovah) through Jesus. Therefore we read as previously mentioned by Joe on 10/15/2011 @9:38 am,(God speaking to Jesus)," God said in Ge 1:26 "Let US make man in OUR own image."
Jesus in the Greek is Iesous' and in Hebrew it is Yeshua and means (Jehovah Is Salvation)as mentioned by Ray R on 10/12/2011 @ 2:40 am. This should not be misconstrued to mean it is another name or descriptive identity of Jesus. Note other names and their meanings in the bible; Jeconiah (Jehovah Firmly Establishes), Jecoliah (Jehovah Has been Able), Jeberechiah (Jehovah Blesses), Jedidiah (Beloved of Jah) Jah being the short version of Jehovah , example Ha-le-lu-jah meaning praise be to Jehovah.
Clearly these others are in no connection with Jesus nor are they considered to be God The Almighty. Their names describe who Jehovah is and what He is synonymus with. Jesus is our very salvation in that he was the sacrificial lamb provided by Jehovah for covering mans sins. Reasonably then, Jesus being the very sacrifice given for us would be the correct and rightful meaning of his name,"Jesus" meaning (Jehovah Is Salvation). Also mentioned was the Christ meaning: Annointed. Annointing is an act of one individual to another. Indicating two distinct individuals.
On a final note Jesus in reply to his disciples questions at Matthew 24:3 explains the sign of his presence and the occurrence of things at the conclusion of this system. Better known as Armageddon. Jesus words at Matthew 24:36, " Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens, nor the Son,but only the Father." In a trinitarian godship all godheads are omnipotent. All have exact power. Equal if you will. Not one greater than the other. All knowing of everything together. Jesus clearly stated he did not know the day or hour. Only the Father knew that time frame. Jesus spoke of how some one could speak against him (The Son of man)and be forgiven, but speaking against the holy spirit would never be forgiven.( MT 12:32) Again this would not stand to reason in a trinitarian worship.
Accurate knowledge is the means of salvation. Jesus said in John 17:3 "This means ever lasting life, their taking in knowledge of you the only true God and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."
It is IN the Face; the WORDS, of Christ, that we see; perceive, and come to know, the Father. As, Christ Jesus is the EXPRESS Image of God, the Father. As, Christ was/is the very HEART of God, the Father, expressed unto us. Christ IS the Word, and thus the WORDS of the Father, speaking unto us. As it is written:
I John 3:I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
When Christ Jesus says 'My words,' they are not His as far as where; Who, they came from. The words of God's Word; Christ, are the words of His Father, just as Christ; God's Word, is God's; the Father's.
There are so many beautiful and deep things touched upon in the prayer that Jesus Christ prayed to His Father in John, chapter 17. One thing is that He says, in so many words, 'Father, you gave mankind ME, and I gave them your WORDS.
John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou GAVEST THEM ME; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have GIVEN unto them THE WORDS which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
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John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is NOT MINE, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD at any time; the only begotten Son, which is IN THE BOSOM bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED him.
John 6:63 (Jesus said...)63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
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2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God IN THE FACE of Jesus Christ.
Psalms 27:8 When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek.
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with THY LIKENESS.
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I John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, NOW are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when HE shall appear, we shall be LIKE HIM; for we shall see him as he is.
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Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being THE BRIGHTNESS his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;