John 2112-17 WHO DO WE LOVE - In Reply - 3 years ago
I was responding to the posts about 1 Thess: 4:17, 18
The Rapture; Caught Up; In the Clouds
End of Days
I am an Evangelist. I see lambs, sheep, wolves, hirelings and those called to be shepherds.
I'm just going to leave it at that and ask God to raise up more shepherds who care for the Sheep. To guide, in one accord, all those who want to know what the Caught Up is, and how to be a participant in that?
Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
1 Peter 4:9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. All of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and gives grace to the humble.
Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
1 Peter 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law.
Romans 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love & good works.
Yes. And for the most part the Lord Speaks to us through his word.
and he sent his Spirit to. empower us and guide us.
Here's a few scriptures to consider.
Take these verses and put them into context by reading the whole chapter.
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
This Love mentioned here is an act "CAUSED" by the Holyspirit!
1 Peter 2:2. As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
2 Timothy 3:16-17. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
1 Corinthians 2:12-13. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:12. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Romans 8:14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
do yuns know the 11th commandment , john 13:34 . that would be the only commandment that he gave to his diciples only . not all of Israel like in Mathew he amped up some of the 10 commandment. and also he repeats it in john 15:11
Sherry ,you got it ! He is our Sinless High Priest in Heaven ,he willingly offered himself that through his willing sacrifice we can be reconciled to our Creator and Sustainer the Holy One of Israel , Jesus makes intercesion for us just as Abraham ,Moses and David did ,thats why Jesus said ask in my name and you shall receive ,much love to you in Jesus Christ our Saviour .Thats why at the end of my prayer i say : i offer my prayer to You my Dear Heavenly Father through the name of Jesus Christ my Sinless High Priest in Your Heavenly Places .
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6.
For God so loved the world, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
GOD IS LOVE, BUT HE IS ALSO JUST AND HOLY.
God doesn't save us by his love.
Love is by the means he sent us a savior.
God also doesn't compromise none of his attributes,
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, SEE THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER WITH A PURE HEART fervently: 1 Peter 1:17-22.
There's your Commandment in John 13.
and it will manifest beyond words.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
i love Jesus with all my heart and soul he is my lord and savior i would never give him or the holy trinity up ever he is the reason i woke up today he is the reason i learned about the bible and the scriptures all because of Jesus. i love everything in the bible and god
Jesus is my lord and savior. he is always my go to when i wake up, go to sleep and when i need help. i love him with all my heart and soul he and the most high makes me who i am today because of them i live to praise the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen
i love the bible it's the best thing that ever came upon me i would never betray the lord for any reason. i will not disobey the lord and i will follow the commandments. i pray everyday and every night thou and everyone around thou should love and praise the lord like all christian's do.
we all should love the most high because he made us, he gave us a home, and he loves ALL of us. Amen
John 13:36-37. Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
" Something we know Peter couldn't do.
Peter couldn't Agape the Lord the way he thought he could, "
And in the English it's not obvious but in
John 21:15 he basically admits it using phileo to answer the Lord.
"Yea, Lord thou knowest that I love thee "
not Agape as the Lord asked.
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, YEA, LORD; THOU KNOWEST THAT I LOVE THEE. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
The 3rd time the Lord asked he also used phileo, Instead of Agape and Peter wept.
What Peter couldn't do in John 13:36-37,
( Follow the Lord to his death )
The Lord tells him it's what he's "GOING" to do in John 21:18-19.
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, FOLLOW ME.
Once filled with the Holy Spirit Peter preached the Gospel boldly knowing his fate was death.
It's amazing what we can do when the Spirit of God is in you.
You can know the scripture and walk alongside Christ but without the Holyspirit baptism WHEN YOU TRULY BELIEVE. it means nothing.
Matthew 7:22-23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Hi Jesse, You shared with me once before how the word commandment here in
John 13:34. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
has a different meaning as commandment in other scriptures.
It is the way I learned and was sharing it, But you articulated it very well and I copied and pasted it so I don't forget it. Problem is I forgot where I pasted it.
When you get a chance can you share that with me again?
It seemed I left out a dozen words in my last passage,
It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but NOT rule over one another AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT. ( being reproved )
We're taught to wash one another's feet, Hold one another accountable to righteousness Christian living, and SOUND DOCTRINE.
Some may despise reproof, There false doctrines is strategic, well sought out and Satan inspired, These are the spots mentioned in Jude 1:12. that feast with us.
What we have here is 2 lessons the Lord is teaching us,
( The Lord washing the disciples feet teaches Humility, and the disciples washing one another's feet emphasize Our walk, "Restoring into fellowship"
( Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one IN THE SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS; CONSIDERING THYSELF, lest thou also be tempted.)
John 13:12-17. So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, ""HE SAID UNTO THEM, KNOW YE WHAT I HAVE DONE TO YOU?""
( YE CALL ME MASTER AND LORD: AND YE SAY WELL; FOR SO I AM.
IF I THEN, YOUR LORD AND MASTER, HAVE WASHED YOUR FEET; YE ALSO OUGHT TO WASH ONE ANOTHER'S FEET.)
FOR I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXAMPLE, THAT YE SHOULD DO AS I HAVE DONE TO YOU.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
IF YE KNOW THESE THINGS, HAPPY ARE YE IF YE DO THEM.
It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but rule over, AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT.
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Iron sharpens Iron
We should welcome it.
BUT NOT ALL
Studying Jude you will see this has crept into the Church.
Jude 1:8, 12, 16 (KJV) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jd 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jd 1: 16. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Don't kick against the bricks and Love one another
It symbolizes that Christ washes away our sins and if we do not accept His sacrifice, we have not part in salvation. And yes, He is always there for us.
2 John Chapter 1 Verse 6 starts out by saying, And this is love, that we walk after (or according) to His commandments.
Remember in 1 John Chapter 5, in the first 3 verses, he described what love does. Love keeps the commandments of God because God is love. He gives us the love for Him, and for His commandments.
Even Jesus said in John 13:34-35, a new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another. Actually, loving one another is the old commandment, but He's giving it in a new way.
Love one another. Here's the new way: As I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men shall know that you are my disciples if you have love one to another. That's to Christians; if you have love one to another.
The non-believer will know that we belong to Christ because Christ's love is flowing within the body of Christ from one believer to another.
He says that's the evidence, the proof. And love will keep the commandments. That is in John 14:15, where Jesus said if you love me, you will keep my commandments.
That's why His commandments are not grievous, because if you love Him, you'll want to please Him. You'll want to do that which is good for you and your walk with God. This is the commandment, that, as you have heard from the beginning, in order that you should walk in it.
Hi Howard. I believe that the other disciple was John himself. We read in John 20:2 "Then she (Mary Magdalene) runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them...".
John 13:23: "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved."
John 21:20: "Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?"
So you can see the common phrase in each of these verses: "whom Jesus loved". John often referred to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved. Why he did this, I'm unsure. Though not wanting to give any focus or attention to himself, rather to the Lord & the other brethren, could be a valid reason.
Carleton More inspired God the Son scriptures by a few of my brethren Part 3 - In Reply on Genesis 14 - 3 years ago
"Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even we also should walk in newness of life. For if we had been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 64-11
"he ever liveth to make intercession for us" Hebrews 7:25
"And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" 1 John 2:1
"No man hath seen the God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" John 1:18
"I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world" Matthew 13:35
"In my Father's house are many mansions.... I go to prepare a place for you" John 14:2
"God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good" Acts 10:38
"Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" 1 Peter 2:21
"For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" John 13:15
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11
If you're a Christian and don't believe Jesus is Lord then that is mystifying. If you don't believe in the many scriptures in the Bible that say not only Jesus is the son of God, but is God, then that is mystifying. You are in the minority who believe that. Many think saying such things as what you just said is a heresy, but I wouldn't go so far- I think it's just misunderstanding in the same way the other person did. Much of it involves falsely assuming a format like this: "Jesus has one title, therefore he can't (with my own human interpretation) have other titles, because my personal reasons." You suggested that Jesus is not Lord, but that's a foundational belief in Christianity and is throughout the Bible. It's sad that someone has to also assume false motives of another Christian too. Did you pray to God the Father about this before posting such controversy?
Romans 10:9 for example says: ""That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."" - some translations word it as "...if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord..."
Deut 6:4, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
This verse is similar to: 1 John 5:7-8, John 10:30, and John 1:1, John 1:14, and so many others that say Jesus is God. This doesn't mean Jesus is God the Father, but Jesus is God the Son.
When it says "we are one" that does not mean they are separate. It means they are one. So, when a man says they can't be one, or Jesus is separate somehow, because it says they are 'one' that idea self-contradicts itself. I believe the Bible as it is written.
What a beautiful declaration you gave on Agape "A fruit, something we get by being connected to the vine, It's virtue
John 15:4-5. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for WITHOUT ME YE CAN DO NOTHING. .
This love is our confirmation, " we can know we're in him!!
1 John 3:18-19. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
John has a lot to say about this, look what's contuary to this.
1 John 3:10-15. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
It's Amazing how we stay away from this topic because it manifest who we are and whether we are on the right side of salvation!!
It says the brothern, I don't think in these verses it's from believers to non believers, I think it's the spirit that bonds the unity.
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. This is the law he said he would put IN man's heart.
I most enjoy having a personal discussion with another brother in Christ. As I also have a KJV Bible that I study the Word from. I don't see that what we are discussing as wasting time. No one person knows exactly how everything went at these times as I'm sure you know. Thank God we have the Gospels that were written. Although it is still limiting to everything that happened in detail. Though it is more than enough to save us. As John 21:25 states that "if everything which Jesus did were written even the world itself could not contain the books". Maybe looking at the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Some things are contained almost exact in one to another, some things differ a bit but you can tell it is of the same event, then there are some things that are unique to each book and are not in one another. I would hope that someone would not just pick one, say Matthew because it was the earliest, and say "this is the one I believe." We should read all of them and put them all together and we still only have a fraction of the Lord's journey.
To answer your question of: What Gospel did you believe to be saved? It was when I was reading the book of John. Very early of me reading the NT as I hadn't read it fully from the beginning yet as I was jumping around. What spoke to my heart was reading of Jesus giving His disciples the new commandment of "love one another" in John 13:34. Also in John 15. When I read this is when I knew Jesus Christ was the truth and from God. Through my whole life feeling, in my heart, that love is what really matters. Reading this was just amazing to me and almost like what I had always wanted to hear. This is when I gave myself to the Lord. Praise be to our Father and Jesus Christ for everything I/we have been led to.
Thank you for sharing what spoke to you, from the Holy Bible, that saved you.
I suppose I Would get an interpret who speaks Greek, ""since Greek is not considered an unknown tongue to a Greek. And the interpreter wouldn't have to have the holyspirit to relay the msg.
Or I would go online and use a translator.
However this couldn't be done in those days during Pentecost God did something special for the lost sheep of Israel who had been scattered and picked up other languages. Acts 2:4-11. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with ""other tongues"", as the Spirit gave them utterance.
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
"" Notice this next verse, the emphasis here is not on the speaking, it's on the hearing""" The gift to interpret.
((And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?))
Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Michael today the Gospel is being taken to the world mostly by radio and some in person, Not in unknown tongues but in other tongues. ""Not by force, but in Charity. ( Love ).
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
The question is if partaking of Communion, whether "buffet-style" or even a la carte, is found in Scripture.
As I gather from the Word, the believers met for fellowship & enjoyed a meal together. During that meal, one arose, using that time & the food before them, to remember the death of the Saviour. My Scriptural warrant for this is found in 1 Corinthians 11:20-23, where the Apostle Paul chastised those who came to these gatherings & gorged themselves with the food & drink disregarding the others waiting to eat. By doing so, they also showed disdain for the Lord's Supper, which probably followed their meal, by one giving thanks in remembrance of the Lord's death. So it seems that whenever the believers met, they understood the solemness of the occasion, as their 'love feast' also became an opportunity to remember the Lord.
Since it would be difficult or impractical to do things in such a manner now, the Church today adopts a faster more manageable method of giving out the elements. Whether or not this is the manner acceptable by the Lord, would be the judgement by the partaker. Personally, I don't care for our practise - I feel we need to at least go some way closer to what was intended by the Lord. The Christian Brethren actually have a loaf of bread (though leavened) passed around, from which people take a chunk & then drink from the same large cup.
Certainly, the sin of some of the Corinthians wouldn't be replicated now, as there wouldn't be a lot on the plate to satisfy even a little hunger, as the next persons to be served look on critically whether there would be anything left for him.
The Rapture; Caught Up; In the Clouds
End of Days
I am an Evangelist. I see lambs, sheep, wolves, hirelings and those called to be shepherds.
I'm just going to leave it at that and ask God to raise up more shepherds who care for the Sheep. To guide, in one accord, all those who want to know what the Caught Up is, and how to be a participant in that?
Romans 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another
Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Philippians 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
1 Peter 4:9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. All of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and gives grace to the humble.
Ephesians 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
1 Peter 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another has fulfilled the law.
Romans 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love & good works.
Yes. And for the most part the Lord Speaks to us through his word.
and he sent his Spirit to. empower us and guide us.
Here's a few scriptures to consider.
Take these verses and put them into context by reading the whole chapter.
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
This Love mentioned here is an act "CAUSED" by the Holyspirit!
1 Peter 2:2. As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
2 Timothy 3:16-17. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
1 Corinthians 2:12-13. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:12. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Romans 8:14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Again Yes we should go to the Lord for guidance.
I hope that helps God bless.
Especially the part, "He's your Lord and savior.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6.
For God so loved the world, THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
GOD IS LOVE, BUT HE IS ALSO JUST AND HOLY.
God doesn't save us by his love.
Love is by the means he sent us a savior.
God also doesn't compromise none of his attributes,
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, SEE THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER WITH A PURE HEART fervently: 1 Peter 1:17-22.
There's your Commandment in John 13.
and it will manifest beyond words.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James 2:18.
God bless.
i love Jesus with all my heart and soul he is my lord and savior i would never give him or the holy trinity up ever he is the reason i woke up today he is the reason i learned about the bible and the scriptures all because of Jesus. i love everything in the bible and god
hopefully this answers your question
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god bless
have a great day!
hopefully that answers your question
Just curious, what role does Jesus play in your relationship with God?
again just curious.
God bless.
Thy kingdom come. thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us of our debts as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen
Matthew 6-9
love god with all your soul and he will love you with all his heart
we all should love the most high because he made us, he gave us a home, and he loves ALL of us. Amen
John 13:36-37. Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
" Something we know Peter couldn't do.
Peter couldn't Agape the Lord the way he thought he could, "
And in the English it's not obvious but in
John 21:15 he basically admits it using phileo to answer the Lord.
"Yea, Lord thou knowest that I love thee "
not Agape as the Lord asked.
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, YEA, LORD; THOU KNOWEST THAT I LOVE THEE. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
The 3rd time the Lord asked he also used phileo, Instead of Agape and Peter wept.
What Peter couldn't do in John 13:36-37,
( Follow the Lord to his death )
The Lord tells him it's what he's "GOING" to do in John 21:18-19.
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.
This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, FOLLOW ME.
Once filled with the Holy Spirit Peter preached the Gospel boldly knowing his fate was death.
It's amazing what we can do when the Spirit of God is in you.
You can know the scripture and walk alongside Christ but without the Holyspirit baptism WHEN YOU TRULY BELIEVE. it means nothing.
Matthew 7:22-23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
AGAPE YOUR BRETHREN.
HERE BY WE KNOW!!
God bless.
John 13:34. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
has a different meaning as commandment in other scriptures.
It is the way I learned and was sharing it, But you articulated it very well and I copied and pasted it so I don't forget it. Problem is I forgot where I pasted it.
When you get a chance can you share that with me again?
Thanks
It seemed I left out a dozen words in my last passage,
It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but NOT rule over one another AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT. ( being reproved )
We're taught to wash one another's feet, Hold one another accountable to righteousness Christian living, and SOUND DOCTRINE.
Some may despise reproof, There false doctrines is strategic, well sought out and Satan inspired, These are the spots mentioned in Jude 1:12. that feast with us.
Thanks for letting me clear up my bad penmanship.
God bless.
What we have here is 2 lessons the Lord is teaching us,
( The Lord washing the disciples feet teaches Humility, and the disciples washing one another's feet emphasize Our walk, "Restoring into fellowship"
( Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one IN THE SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS; CONSIDERING THYSELF, lest thou also be tempted.)
John 13:12-17. So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, ""HE SAID UNTO THEM, KNOW YE WHAT I HAVE DONE TO YOU?""
( YE CALL ME MASTER AND LORD: AND YE SAY WELL; FOR SO I AM.
IF I THEN, YOUR LORD AND MASTER, HAVE WASHED YOUR FEET; YE ALSO OUGHT TO WASH ONE ANOTHER'S FEET.)
FOR I HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXAMPLE, THAT YE SHOULD DO AS I HAVE DONE TO YOU.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
IF YE KNOW THESE THINGS, HAPPY ARE YE IF YE DO THEM.
It's clear the scripture tells us to be of one mind, And we may have to reprove one another but rule over, AND WE SHOULD WELCOME IT.
2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Iron sharpens Iron
We should welcome it.
BUT NOT ALL
Studying Jude you will see this has crept into the Church.
Jude 1:8, 12, 16 (KJV) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Jd 1:12. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jd 1: 16. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Don't kick against the bricks and Love one another
2 John Chapter 1 Verse 6 starts out by saying, And this is love, that we walk after (or according) to His commandments.
Remember in 1 John Chapter 5, in the first 3 verses, he described what love does. Love keeps the commandments of God because God is love. He gives us the love for Him, and for His commandments.
Even Jesus said in John 13:34-35, a new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another. Actually, loving one another is the old commandment, but He's giving it in a new way.
Love one another. Here's the new way: As I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men shall know that you are my disciples if you have love one to another. That's to Christians; if you have love one to another.
The non-believer will know that we belong to Christ because Christ's love is flowing within the body of Christ from one believer to another.
He says that's the evidence, the proof. And love will keep the commandments. That is in John 14:15, where Jesus said if you love me, you will keep my commandments.
That's why His commandments are not grievous, because if you love Him, you'll want to please Him. You'll want to do that which is good for you and your walk with God. This is the commandment, that, as you have heard from the beginning, in order that you should walk in it.
John 13:23: "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved."
John 21:20: "Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?"
So you can see the common phrase in each of these verses: "whom Jesus loved". John often referred to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved. Why he did this, I'm unsure. Though not wanting to give any focus or attention to himself, rather to the Lord & the other brethren, could be a valid reason.
"he ever liveth to make intercession for us" Hebrews 7:25
"And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" 1 John 2:1
"No man hath seen the God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" John 1:18
"I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world" Matthew 13:35
"In my Father's house are many mansions.... I go to prepare a place for you" John 14:2
"God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good" Acts 10:38
"Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" 1 Peter 2:21
"For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" John 13:15
"Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11
"I am a debtor" Romans 1:14
If you're a Christian and don't believe Jesus is Lord then that is mystifying. If you don't believe in the many scriptures in the Bible that say not only Jesus is the son of God, but is God, then that is mystifying. You are in the minority who believe that. Many think saying such things as what you just said is a heresy, but I wouldn't go so far- I think it's just misunderstanding in the same way the other person did. Much of it involves falsely assuming a format like this: "Jesus has one title, therefore he can't (with my own human interpretation) have other titles, because my personal reasons." You suggested that Jesus is not Lord, but that's a foundational belief in Christianity and is throughout the Bible. It's sad that someone has to also assume false motives of another Christian too. Did you pray to God the Father about this before posting such controversy?
Examples of Jesus is Lord: Link
Romans 10:9
Romans 6:23
Philippians 2:10-11
Luke 6:46
Isaiah 44:6
John 13:13
1 Thessalonians 4:16
2 Timothy 1:8
Acts 16:31
1 Corinthians 12:3-5
Did you reach each of the above?
Romans 10:9 for example says: ""That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."" - some translations word it as "...if you will confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord..."
Deut 6:4, Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
This verse is similar to: 1 John 5:7-8, John 10:30, and John 1:1, John 1:14, and so many others that say Jesus is God. This doesn't mean Jesus is God the Father, but Jesus is God the Son.
When it says "we are one" that does not mean they are separate. It means they are one. So, when a man says they can't be one, or Jesus is separate somehow, because it says they are 'one' that idea self-contradicts itself. I believe the Bible as it is written.
What a beautiful declaration you gave on Agape "A fruit, something we get by being connected to the vine, It's virtue
John 15:4-5. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for WITHOUT ME YE CAN DO NOTHING. .
This love is our confirmation, " we can know we're in him!!
1 John 3:18-19. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
John has a lot to say about this, look what's contuary to this.
1 John 3:10-15. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
It's Amazing how we stay away from this topic because it manifest who we are and whether we are on the right side of salvation!!
It says the brothern, I don't think in these verses it's from believers to non believers, I think it's the spirit that bonds the unity.
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. This is the law he said he would put IN man's heart.
From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.
When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.
In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.
Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!
Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:
God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!
New Testament:
John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:
Matthew 3: 11, 16.
John 1: 26 - 33.
Luke 3: 16, 21.
Matthew 28:19:
Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.
Mark 16:16:
He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Luke 24: 47 - 49:
Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.
John 3: 5 - 7:
Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.
John 13:10:
Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.
John 19:34:
Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.
Note:
1 John 5: 6, 8:
Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.
There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.
One what? - One new birth.
Continued next text.
Acts 2:38:
Baptized in water for remission of sins to be saved. Jews first, then gentiles.
Note:
2: 41:
3000 souls were baptized to be obedient.
Acts 8: 36 - 39:
Philip baptized eunuch in water.
Acts 9:18:
Apostle Paul is baptized.
Acts 10: 47, 48:
Peter baptized Cornelius and his family.
Acts 18: 8:
Chief ruler of synagogue believed on the Lord(many with him) got baptized.
Acts 19: 1 - 6:
Paul baptized certain disciples in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Continue to water baptism part 2.
From the very beginning in the bible, water separates or divides from something: Genesis 1: 6, 7.
When God set apart people for himself, he used water to separate you from something to bring you into something else.
In the old testament, Moses and the priest had to wash with water to be sanctified for service.
Want to show how many scriptures(not all) are showing how important baptism is!
Ezekiel 36: 24 - 27:
God takes the unclean, sprinkles clean water on them, and they shall be clean. Puts his Spirit in them and calls them his people!
New Testament:
John the Baptist baptized with water, also baptized Jesus that the scriptures would be fullfilled:
Matthew 3: 11, 16.
John 1: 26 - 33.
Luke 3: 16, 21.
Matthew 28:19:
Teach all nations to baptize in Jesus name.
Mark 16:16:
He that believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Luke 24: 47 - 49:
Beginning at Jerusalem, repentance and water baptism(remission of sins) preached in Jesus name among all nations.
John 3: 5 - 7:
Jesus taught you must be born again of water(baptism) and Spirit.
John 13:10:
Jesus washed his disciple's feet with water, calling them clean.
John 19:34:
Jesus dead on the cross; soldier pierced his side, out came BLOOD and WATER.
Note:
1 John 5: 6, 8:
Jesus came by WATER and BLOOD.
There are 3 that bear witness in the earth: Spirit, water, and blood. These 3 agree in one.
One what? - One new birth.
Continued next text.
I most enjoy having a personal discussion with another brother in Christ. As I also have a KJV Bible that I study the Word from. I don't see that what we are discussing as wasting time. No one person knows exactly how everything went at these times as I'm sure you know. Thank God we have the Gospels that were written. Although it is still limiting to everything that happened in detail. Though it is more than enough to save us. As John 21:25 states that "if everything which Jesus did were written even the world itself could not contain the books". Maybe looking at the four Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Some things are contained almost exact in one to another, some things differ a bit but you can tell it is of the same event, then there are some things that are unique to each book and are not in one another. I would hope that someone would not just pick one, say Matthew because it was the earliest, and say "this is the one I believe." We should read all of them and put them all together and we still only have a fraction of the Lord's journey.
To answer your question of: What Gospel did you believe to be saved? It was when I was reading the book of John. Very early of me reading the NT as I hadn't read it fully from the beginning yet as I was jumping around. What spoke to my heart was reading of Jesus giving His disciples the new commandment of "love one another" in John 13:34. Also in John 15. When I read this is when I knew Jesus Christ was the truth and from God. Through my whole life feeling, in my heart, that love is what really matters. Reading this was just amazing to me and almost like what I had always wanted to hear. This is when I gave myself to the Lord. Praise be to our Father and Jesus Christ for everything I/we have been led to.
Thank you for sharing what spoke to you, from the Holy Bible, that saved you.
I suppose I Would get an interpret who speaks Greek, ""since Greek is not considered an unknown tongue to a Greek. And the interpreter wouldn't have to have the holyspirit to relay the msg.
Or I would go online and use a translator.
However this couldn't be done in those days during Pentecost God did something special for the lost sheep of Israel who had been scattered and picked up other languages. Acts 2:4-11. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with ""other tongues"", as the Spirit gave them utterance.
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
"" Notice this next verse, the emphasis here is not on the speaking, it's on the hearing""" The gift to interpret.
((And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?))
Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Michael today the Gospel is being taken to the world mostly by radio and some in person, Not in unknown tongues but in other tongues. ""Not by force, but in Charity. ( Love ).
John 13:34-35. A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Covet the best Gift. ( Love) God bless.
As I gather from the Word, the believers met for fellowship & enjoyed a meal together. During that meal, one arose, using that time & the food before them, to remember the death of the Saviour. My Scriptural warrant for this is found in 1 Corinthians 11:20-23, where the Apostle Paul chastised those who came to these gatherings & gorged themselves with the food & drink disregarding the others waiting to eat. By doing so, they also showed disdain for the Lord's Supper, which probably followed their meal, by one giving thanks in remembrance of the Lord's death. So it seems that whenever the believers met, they understood the solemness of the occasion, as their 'love feast' also became an opportunity to remember the Lord.
Since it would be difficult or impractical to do things in such a manner now, the Church today adopts a faster more manageable method of giving out the elements. Whether or not this is the manner acceptable by the Lord, would be the judgement by the partaker. Personally, I don't care for our practise - I feel we need to at least go some way closer to what was intended by the Lord. The Christian Brethren actually have a loaf of bread (though leavened) passed around, from which people take a chunk & then drink from the same large cup.
Certainly, the sin of some of the Corinthians wouldn't be replicated now, as there wouldn't be a lot on the plate to satisfy even a little hunger, as the next persons to be served look on critically whether there would be anything left for him.