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  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jew = tribe of Judah

    Please note: Genesis 29:31-35, Genesis 35:23,

    Genesis 44:18-34, Judah offers to be taken prisoner & suffer for his brother's accused crimes, because of the love he had for his father. Note: John 10:14-42, John 14, John 17, John 3:10-21,

    Note: Exodus 12:35-38, Exodus 12:48, Esther 8:17,

    Genesis 49:1,2,8,9,10,11,12, Genesis 46:12, Luke 3:23-38, Hebrews 7, Hebrews 8:7-13, - Hebrews 9, Matthew 2:1,5,6, Revelation 5:5,

    Notice Genesis 49:10,11,12 = Matthew 21:1-16, Mark 11:1-10, Luke 19:30-46, John 12:11-16, Matthew 26:17-56, Mark 14:1-72, Luke 22:1-20,37,

    Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 22:1,7,8,14,15,16,17,18,30,31, Matthew 27:35,37,41,43,46,51,52,53, Mark 15:3,6,15,20,24,27,28,29,31,32,34,38,

    John 19:11,14,16,18,19,20,23,24,28,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,

    Isaiah 53

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello LaDawna. There are a couple of references where Jesus speaks of Satan as the "prince of the world" ( John 12:31, John 14:30 and John 16:11). And the Apostle Paul speaks of him as "the god of this world" ( 2 Corinthians 4:4).
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Right Hand i can pray for you, Dear Almighty God and Creator i pray in Jesus holy name, that a root of bitterness does not grow up in humanity today John 12:18 But peace be with all. Let the Christians who call themselves Christians reach out for help and comfort to the whole herd. Let us today hear His Voice, that the ears are opened and we can expect to join Him when He returns with His Trumpet Voice. So that we can live in faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. John 5:24-29 Thank You, Lord, for bringing Your salvation to all who cry out to You. And You will not reject anyone, according to Your Word. John 6:37 Amen

    God bless u in Jesus name, love u in Christ.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

    Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

    Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

    Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

    Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

    see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

    GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

    It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

    Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

    In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

    1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

    Hopefully these are all helpful
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on John 12 - 2 years ago
    Thank you so much for your encouragement. I needed to hear that. Blessings and Favor, according to Gods Word.
  • Ronnette on John 12 - 2 years ago
    These Pharisees sounded like the SWAMP of today.

    The Spiritual battle will have an end soon.

    Every word in this book will be fulfilled. Keep the faith high my fellowbelievers. We already WON. AGAPE.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear brother/sister

    A long time had passed by since David sinned with Bathseda. He knew God's commandments and was definitely feeling guilty all that time. So he was ready to repent, maybe he had already repented when the prophet came and talked to him.

    How do we repent?

    When one knows that what he's done or thought was wrong, I think it's not difficult to repent. It's true though that our heart is not always ready to repent immediately, it needs some time. Some other times not. This happens to all of us. But what seems to be difficult to do sometimes is not doing it again.This is our struggle in life as christians. That is why our life in Jesus is described in the Gospel as in Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.'

    But you have to have in mind that:

    Changing yourself is not something easy and fast. Noone changes from one moment to another. It often takes a whole lifetime to change our character. We may fall again and again in the same mistakes (christians do not commit big sins or should not) and repent and rise up and keep going the narrow way. God works in us with His Word, His Spirit, His actions to help us follow His way. He knows our nature, that we are made of ground, He doesn't expect more than we can do, that wouldn't be fair to us people. He is there to help us, not to judge us John 12:47 " And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.'

    We must have in mind that our nature has not changed because we were born, we are still vulnerable to sinning, but we were given Jesus' Blood for forgiveness. So just keep going under God's grace and strength, don't stay behind no matter how weak you may feel.

    GBU
  • Ronnette on Ezekiel 33:12 - 2 years ago
    Who is the Son of man who was made the "watchman"? Have you noticed that Ezekiel 3:17-19 is repeated in Ezekiel 33:7-9?

    The Son of man is Jesus Christ based on Matthew 26:24, Mark 14:21, and John 12:34.

    Just what to confirm my understanding on these verses.

    Thank you.
  • ELB - In Reply on Matthew 22 - 2 years ago
    Dgjot: YOU ARE SAVED BECAUSE YOU ARE CHOSEN, God says he CHOOSES YOU!

    You came to God because GOD CAUSED you to come to him.

    John 12:32 If I be lifted up, I WILL draw ALL MEN to me.

    You BELIEVE because God CAUSES you to BELIEVE.

    Philippians 1:29 For unto you IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to SUFFER for his sake.

    Everything that has happen in you life has been for A PURPOSE, That we come to TRUTH that ALL WORKS are of GOD, we are just the vessel.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (his life) that worketh in you (the body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    John 14:6 ....I am the LIFE ......

    Rejoice in the past, it's CAUSING you to be conformed to the IMAGE OF GOD (the Divine Nature).

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put MY SPIRIT (LIFE) in you and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and to keep my judgements and DO THEM.

    Matthew 6:10 Thy will be done .....

    Everything in your past (as well as the future) is God's will, you are just now coming TO KNOWLEDGE, that GOD KNOW whats best for HIS BODY.

    2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are GIVEN TO US exceedingly great and precious PROMISES: that by these you might be PARTAKERS of the DIVINE NATURE ......

    God Bless You!
  • John anonymous - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Consider Jesus' witness/testimony about the words he speaks:

    "...if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. John 12:47-50

    "...the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me..." John 14:10

    Consider Jesus' prophesy about how the Holy Ghost will instruct true believers:

    "...when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." John 16:13

    When it comes to the disposition of my eternal soul, I'm not interested in opinions expressed in a collection of questionable epistles or the sermons of human pastors; I'm only interested in the unleavened Word of God that came out of Jesus' mouth or the Holy Ghost who is available to those who keep his commandments.

    I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist."
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello sir or madam, I am happy to dialog with you if you share your name so I know who I'm communicating with and if you are respectful. Just saying someone is "incorrect" without any scriptures to back it up isn't getting off on the right foot, however.

    I believe all will be judged on a particular day because the Bible says the phrase "day of judgment", "the day when", the "last day". It doesn't say there's multiple days of judgment or a week or month or years of judgment, or that judgment is only whenever you die. Here's some examples:

    1 John 4:17 "day of judgment"

    Matthew 12:36 "day of judgment"

    2 Peter 2:9 "day of judgment"

    Matthew 11:22 "day of judgment"

    2 Corinthians 5:10 "we must all"

    Romans 2:16 - "the day when"

    John 12:48 "last day"

    Revelation 20:12-15 is a vision, but that verse also indicates multitudes judged at once does it not? So, the scriptural support is strong. Do you feel you have just as much scriptural support against this? Do you know of any verses that say the the opposite?

    Aside from being a particular day, you questioned that all will be judged, and suggested 2 different judgments.

    We also know this judgment is for everyone, because in verse 15 it says those not found in the book of life were cast into the fire. So, this event sorted people. It doesn't say that in this judgment ALL went to hell or ALL went to heaven. A judgment is a judgment of each individual "according to their works" and determines where they go according to verse 15.

    "If that's what you are saying, then that is incorrect."

    If your belief is based on scripture then please share it. If your belief is not based on scripture then you have greater concerns.

    "Otherwise, how are we to know if what you believe is the correct truth?"

    Since you didn't provide any scriptural support someone is more likely to ask you this.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Matthew 2 - 2 years ago
    Hey Jesse,

    Good information: truth shines from the word of God. As you said the leaders of Jerusalem should have known. I believe they did know, in Matthew 2:3-6, that Jerusalem (chief priests and scribes) was also troubled. They knew the time, but God did to them what He did to Pharoah, He blinded and hardened their hearts, John 12:40. To me this kind of ties into the things S Spencer has been sharing.

    There are other scriptures they were probably aware of, like Jeremiah 50:6 and Ezekiel 34 where God told Ezekiel to prophesy against the shepherds, (the leaders) and what God would do, Ezekiel 34:10.

    So, they were troubled to hear Jesus was born. They did not even send anyone to Bethlehem to see. You would think they would have been jumping for joy, but they did not want to give up the power, wealth, and Moses's seat they had. Jesus the true Shepherd John 10:11 first came only for the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 15:24, fulfilling and confirming the covenant Hebrews 13:20. Jesus also told the scribes and the Pharisees their house is left to them desolate, and He will return Matthew 23:36-39.

    Their duty as shepherds was over in that generation, 70 AD, and the sheep shall be gathered again, Isaiah 11:12 Ezekiel 37:21-22 Jeremiah 23:3 and more.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Marke - In Reply on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    Reply to GiGi.

    I got saved in 1971 just before I joined the Army. I ended up in a church with one of my supervisors at Ft. Gragg and we became close friends for more than two years. But in 1974 my friend and I had a disagreement over a Bible teaching and he accused me of possibly having committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for which I would never be forgiven. This bothered me a great deal so I began praying for God to show me what the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost was all about. After seeking the answer for several years I believe the Lord finally answered me. Here is what I believe:

    God has promised to enlighten every sinner born into the world ( 1 John 1:9). The Holy Spirit seeks to save every sinner in the world ( 1 Tim 2:4.) The Holy Spirit draws all men to Christ ( John 12:32.) The sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is committed by sinners who see the light, are pointed to Jesus by the Holy Spirit, and yet reject the light and speak evil of Jesus, the Holy Spirit, or God. ( John 3:19.) The basis of condemnation to hell is rejecting the light clearly revealed to the unrepentant sinner by the Holy Ghost.

    We see that in Romans 1 where sinners who clearly see and understand the light reject the light and are therefore condemned without excuse. The Pharisees who blasphemed the Holy Spirit in Mark 3 knew Jesus was God because Nicodemus said so in John 3:2. We know sinners who have not yet been shown the light by the Holy Spirit can be guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because of what Jesus said in John 15:22-24.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    He does.

    1st through creation, our very breath, heartbeat, vision, taste, smell, every flower, tree, sunset, sunrise, the oxygen we breathe, every beautiful creature, every created thing. He made & gave us trust to keep it. Through HIS creation HE speaks to us. If we choose to listen. Through the seasons & sunrise, sunsets we see He is faithful. Through domestic animals we see HIS compassion. In life we see hope. All given by GOD!

    2nd His WORD the Bible, is GOD speaking through HIS people, 2Timothy 3:16, to us, all that are willing to read it.

    3rd GOD has spoken through HIS Prophets: Jeremiah 7:25, & HIS people

    4th Through JESUS The Messiah John 3:15-16,

    5th Through the HOLY Spirit that was promised by JESUS to all who believe: Ephesians 1:13, John 14:26, Luke 11:13,

    Sometimes in our most difficult moments in life we want GOD to speak to us outloud. In those times we need a quiet voice of comfort, which we can find in HIS WORD, in prayer, all around creation if we seek HIM. The voice of GOD recorded in scripture is like thunder, many accounts it makes those who've heard it tremble in fear. Exodus 19:9,16,18,19, Job 37:5, Psalms 77:18, John 12:28,29,

    I hope you will hear GOD more clearly

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Since I ran out of space I thought I'd add one more comment.

    The #1 criticism often received is someone claims I don't believe in grace or that I believe we're saved by effort. That is a strawman argument and is untrue. The Bible says Christ followers will be saved by grace, not by works. That is not what is being contested.

    Just because we will be saved by grace doesn't mean we should stop obeying Christ! It doesn't mean we should stop following Christ! The fruit of faith is works. A Christian is a Christ follower and if someone doesn't follow Christ they by definition are not even a Christian. And if not a Christian, that person should not expect the benefits of salvation. Matthew 7:21. Many will feel very entitled but will be shocked they aren't welcomed. This is the wake up call many need right now. Get right with the Lord today before its too late!

    A Christ follower is action. Those who aren't actively following Christ are may not be Christ followers. And just because we're imperfect and fall down from time to time doesn't mean we're not Christians. This is very different from someone turning their backs on Jesus and following the pleasures of the world (satan). But Jesus said He would go after the lost sheep, not lost wolves! Many people assume they're followers because a pastor told them so, but are instead lost wolves expecting all the benefits of salvation for doing nothing. God bless.

    People have freewill:

    Psalms 25:12

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    Psalm 119:30

    Luke 16:13

    Proverbs 3:31

    Fear God:

    Joshua 24:14

    Psalms 25:12

    Proverbs 1:29

    Seek God:

    Psalms 63:1

    All will be judged:

    2 Corinthians 5:10

    Romans 2:16

    John 12:48

    Hebrews 9:27

    Revelation 20:12
  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I am not aware of any record of such a conspiracy to commit the murder of the 12 disciples, but there is evidence the wicked disciples of the devil do hate and are willing to murder God's people.

    John 12:9-11

    King James Version

    9 Much people of the Jews therefore knew that he was there: and they came not for Jesus' sake only, but that they might see Lazarus also, whom he had raised from the dead.

    10 But the chief priests consulted that they might put Lazarus also to death;

    11 Because that by reason of him many of the Jews went away, and believed on Jesus.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, maybe your following assumption is at the heart of the difference: "In the fact that Satan is the God of this present world makes him omnipresent he is in everymans Seed"

    Is your assumption true and will scripture validate or invalidate this?

    Job 1:6-12 - this says satan has limited power.

    John 12:31 - Jesus calls satan prince of the world.

    These verses don't say he is omnipresent or in anyone's seed.

    What verse do you use as your source for your seed belief and what makes you so confident in this that you're willing to spread around this information to convince people that this is true? What if it isn't?
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Please read: Isaiah 26:19, Ezekiel 37:12,13, Matthew 27:50-54,

    John 12:1, Romans 8, Matthew 9:18-25, Matthew 11:5, Matthew 28, Mark 9:9, Luke 24:46, John 2:22, John 5:19-29, = Matthew 25:31-46, John 11:25, John 11:39-53, John 12:9, Romans 14:9, 1Peter 4, Revelation 1:5-8,

    Revelation 20,

    Ephesians 5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Additional scripture for you:

    Matthew 3-7, Matthew 5, Matthew 5:20, Matthew 9:10-13, Matthew 9:14-17, Matthew 9:27-34, Matthew 12:14, Matthew 12, Matthew 15, Matthew 16, Matthew 16:6,12, Matthew 19:3, * Matthew 21, Matthew 22, Matthew 22:15, it appears they were wrongfully referring to the book of Tobet, in 1611 version, Tobit 3:7,8, Matthew 22:29,

    * Matthew 23:2, whole chapter Matthew 23, Matthew 27:62,

    Matthew 23:13,14,

    Mark 2:16, Mark 2, Mark 3:1-6, Mark 7:1-23, Mark 8:11,15, Mark 10:2, Mark 12:13,

    Luke 5:17-39, Luke 6:2-11, Luke 7:29-50, Luke 11:37-54, Luke 12:1, Luke 12:31, Luke 14:1-24, Luke 14, Luke 16:14-31, Luke 16, Luke 19:35-39,

    John 1:19-34, John 3:1-21, John 7:28-32, John 7:43-53, John 8:3-22, John 9, John 9:15,16, John 11:37-57, John 12:19, John 12:42, John 18:3,

    Acts 15, Acts 23,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study, I included several Chapters to read next to verses, to read within context, for better understanding
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This morning I thought more on Lazarus & the parable of Lazarus, in thinking about it: maybe the parable/story was also about how the "Rich" in scriptural knowledge, not sharing or helping while Lazarus had "wounds the dogs would._." alone in his suffering, while the other had historical words of hope, healing, redemption, deliverance.

    Just thinking: even though Lazarus in real life may not have been financially poor, his sister had been tormented by 7 demons, in front of the ' religious ' for they judged her openly, Lazarus who dwelt with his sister/s suffered.

    Jesus walks in, delivers, redeems, forgives, restores & teaches GOD's words. Mark 16:9, Luke 5:17, Luke 5:29-32, Mark 2:14-17, Matthew 9:10-13, Luke 8:2, Mark 16:9,

    John 11:2, John 12:1-11, Luke 7:36-50, Luke 8:2, believing Mary to be Mary Madgelene, & reading John 11:2, (as the only time Jesus feet were anointed with oil, & wiped by a Mary's hair)

    Luke 16, interestingly in the Parable/story the "rich" man cried "Father Abraham, have mercy._.._" & "if they hear not Moses an the Prophets._."

    John 11, & John 12,
  • Suze - In Reply on John 12 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Fred , for me , the most disgusting thing about the Pharisees is that they actually wanted to kill Lazarus . This evil of theirs boggles my mind . My guess is that he went into hiding after Jesus's crucifixion , maybe even before . Christ is fearless , true love is the bravest attribute , for true love even us mere mortals will risk ourselves for some one we love . Christ knew where he wanted to be and this should be our desire , our deepest desire , the World to Come . Thy Kingdom Come Dear Heavenly Father , when it is Your Will . Great post Fred , much love in Christ .
  • Fred Scanlan on John 12 - 2 years ago
    One can learn from the intensity and the power of wrong thinking when we do not except Christ. Jesus refers to it as the light. Believe in the light while we have Him. These words compared to nothing less than life here on earth and the life hereafter, called eternity.

    He that hates this life, profound as it may seem, are the effects of living in Christ.

    Even so we are in the world, doing the will of God, confronting sin in the world.

    One may begin to wonder what heaven will be like after leaving this place?

    Jesus once again confronting the Pharisees, who did not have far to come, watched Christ having dinner with Lazarus.

    So, Jesus takes the opportunity not far from the temple giving the place for Mary to show Her Faith with the anointing of Christ feet, while Her brother looks on! Her brother, this one Jesus clearly raised from the dead after 4 days in the tomb!

    The fact that the Pharisees, Simone, and Judas were all there is evidence that Jesus was giving these another chance to believe who He is. This is power, Christ is fearless in the eye's of an unbelieving hateful people ,who only wish to kill Him!

    Repent and be baptized
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 6:13 - 2 years ago
    Reading, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 2:8,

    "believer" Mark 16:16-18, Luke 8, John 1:12, John 6:64, John 7:5, John 12:23-50, John 17, Romans 4, 1Thessalonians 2:13, Hebrews 11:6, James 2, James 2:19, Romans 1, through Romans 2, Romans 6,

    * 1Peter 4, 1Peter 4:17,

    Hope these are helpful
  • ELB - 2 years ago
    WHAT IS A UNBELIEVER; the unbelieving?

    The Israel of OLD believed in God.

    Even devils believe in God.

    But the Israel of OLD didn't believe the words of God.

    The Israel of NEW have the same problem, they don't believe the words of God.

    John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto me.

    Romans 5:10 For if, WHEN WE WERE ENEMIES, we were RECONCILED (already completed) to God by the death of his Son ......

    1 Corinthians 15:28 ....and GOD WILL BE ALL IN ALL.

    Revelation 21:8 .. the UNBELIEVING and ALL LIARS.....shall have their part in the LAKE OF FIRE.

    Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue Satan, which say are Jews (born again), and are not, BUT DO LIE ........

    God Bless You!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Zori.

    There's those who believe the book of Isaiah have 2 authors because of the contrasting styles between the 1st half of the book and the 2nd half. However Isaiah wrote both halves of the book of Isaiah.

    Do a careful research on John 12:37-41. and you will find Jesus contributing both half of the book to Isaiah by quoting from each half of the book.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:31-46, John 12:25, Psalms 139, 1John 4:19, Ephesians 5:29,
  • EDWARD on 1 Peter 2 - 2 years ago
    i am having self hate right for decisions i have made. and also for decisions i didn't make. i dont want to go to heaven and live life like it talks about in John 12:25. i need guidance for my life right now.
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I think if you trace out commentaries on Judas in the Gospels and Acts you get the answers to both of your questions.

    The set of scriptures that speak about Judas before he committed himself to betray Jesus are: Mark 3:13-19, Luke 6:13-16, John 6:61-71

    The event that triggered Judas to act on his decision to betray Jesus: Matthew 26:6-16, Mark 14:3-11, John 12:3-8

    Judas identified as betrayer at the last supper: Matthew 26:20-25, Mark 14:17-21, Luke 22:21-22, John 13:18-31

    Once his betrayal was set in motion: John 17:9-12

    At the betrayal: Matthew 26:45-50, Mark 14:40-46, Luke 22:45-48, John 18:1-9

    After completing his betrayal: Matthew 27:3-10, Acts 1:16 and Acts 1:20

    We must acknowledge Jn 2:24-25 was true of Christ before He chose any of His disciples. He was never deceived by anyone that temporarily followed him but fell away, including Judas, John 6:64. No prophet had been in Israel for centuries, so Christ alone had this ability when He came until Pentacost. After Pentacost the hearts of certain individuals could be revealed by Christ's Spirit to born again believers that are specially given that gift, such as Peter ( Acts 5:1-13, Acts 8:1-25) Note, Jusas, Ananias and Saphira, and Simon all had their hearts exposed as false thru their follies with money.

    Judas was a disciple and he was broken off the vine, but he never had the fruit of the Holy Spirit and was never pronounced pruned/cleaned by the Father or Jesus. We know this because Judas was broken off by the Father before Jesus told the disciples they were pruned/cleaned branches abiding in Him, the true vine, who would bear fruit in John 15. Judas was marked unclean, he was never born again of the Spirit at Pentacost or made an Apostle for the great commission. He died a disciple without the fruitful presence of the Holy Spirit. He is proof that false fruitless brethren can be among us who depart 1 Jn 2:18-20, but not proof some are broken off by God who actually bear fruit by abiding in Jesus.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I'm not sure what you're saying, but it seems to me you have so much disputting around you, you feel it's spiritual attack "jump on" you.

    1st , Matthew 5:10-16, Luke 12:52,53, * 1Peter 4,

    2nd, Ephesians 6:11-18, Matthew 10:1, Mark 9:28,29, Matthew 17:21,

    3rd Matthew 10:8-42, Matthew 12:30, Matthew 26:55,59, Matthew 27:1, Mark 3:6, Mark 13:9-13,

    4tu, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5, Psalms 37,

    5th, Mark 11:25, Matthew 6:47-49, Luke 17:3,4,

    Even Jesus had to stop disputes with believers : John 12:7,
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 6:23, Job 10:22, 1John 2:11, Exodus 10:21, Isaiah 8:22, Jeremiah 13:16,

    John 1:5 also prophetic of Isaiah 60:2, if crucifixion isn't dark, I don't know what time is. Ephesians 5:11,

    Isaiah 5:20, John 12:46,

    Isaiah 6:8-10, Mark 4:12, also prophecy, fulfilled

    Hopefully these are helpful


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