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  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lee the Follower:

    2 Peter 1:20 No PROPHECY of the scripture is (in and of itself it's) OWN private interpretation.

    2 Corinthians 13:1 ...in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established .....

    Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall surely not DIE:

    Genesis 3:5 FOR GOD DOTH KNOW that in the day you thereof, then your EYES SHALL BE OPENED, and ye shall be as gods, KNOWING GOOD and EVIL.

    This is ALL PROPHECY.

    Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God SAID, Behold, the man HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US, to KNOW good and evil.....

    The FRUIT was KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, the KNOWLEDGE of gods.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not WRITTEN in your LAW, ye are gods

    John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the WORD the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

    Psalms 82:6

    Deuteronomy 10:17 your God is a God of gods, and Lord of Lords ....

    Psalms 136:6 Give thanks unto the God of gods, for his mercy endureth for ever.

    Now, Eve was a prophecy of the coming bride of Christ by HIS RESURRECTION, and what happened she was resurrected with her husband to never DIE.

    The gift of God is eternal life.

    God can even use Satan to speak prophecy, what did Satan say, Ye shall never DIE.

    Luke 20:36 Neither can THEY DIE ANYMORE, Adam (Christ) took of the fruit and did eat with his wife and Christ and his wife (creation) DIED, and the spirit of the Father RAISED them as ONE FLESH), for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN of the RESURRECTION.

    Philippians 2:5 Let this MIND BE IN YOU, which also was in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, though it not robbery to be equal with God.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother S Spencer:

    You say you believe, but is HALF BELIEF enough to get you into the Kingdom of God or does God require TOTAL BELIEF of his WORKS.

    You say you believe in the works of the resurrection.

    But is belief in half the WORKS of Christ resurrection enough or does it takes total belief to OBTAIN the Kingdom of God.

    I don't think you know what the kingdom of God is, YET.

    What were the WORKS of Christ's resurrection:

    OUR sins of the flesh were forgiven and covered by the Lambs blood.

    DEATH was conquered, and IMMORTALITY, the gift of God, established, and CHRIST ONLY hath IMMORTALITY ( 1 Timothy 6:16).

    Christ ONLY arose, and we as JOINT HEIRS.

    Here is where you STOP BELIEVING.

    Mark 10:8 And THEY twain shall be ONE flesh: so then THEY are NO MORE twain, but ONE FLESH.

    So whose flesh are you, Christ flesh,

    Or is Christ, your flesh.

    The word gives the answer;

    1 Corinthians 15:50 ....flesh and blood cannot INHERIT the kingdom of GOD .....

    You INHERIT the Kingdom of God, it is not a place, it is a person.

    Genesis 2:23 This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: for SHE, Christ wife, shall be called WOMAN, because SHE is taken out of MAN ( Revelation 12).

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ..... this mortal shall PUT on IMMORTALITY .......

    1 Timothy 6:16 ..... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY .....

    John 17:22 ..... that THEY may be ONE, as WE are ONE .....

    You believe Christ and his Father are ONE.

    Yet, you DON'T BELIEVE, you we made ONE with them by the resurrection of Christ.

    These are not my words that you don't believe.

    John 10:34 JESUS SAID, is it not WRITTEN in your LAW, I said, ye are gods ...... Psalms 82:6 .......

    Isaiah 55:11 My WORD WILL NOT return unto me VOID .....but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the THING whereto I sent it.

    Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, his strange WORK, and BRING TO PASS HIS ACT, his strange act.

    Can you enter the Kingdom of God, ONLY BELIEVING half of God's WORD.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 13 - 1 year ago
    Hi Jess L. If I might add a little to what others have shared with you, including those Scriptures for you to consider, I would include a very important chapter (John chapter 17), as Jesus' great & special prayer to His Father just prior to the events leading to His arrest & crucifixion.

    The ministry of Jesus on Earth was now completed, only the final work of redemption lay before Him. But Jesus says something interesting to His Father: "Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee" (v1), and then further adds, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was" (v5). To glorify means 'to bestow honor; to magnify someone's worth'. When Jesus sought His Father's glory of Himself at this point, it was what remained before Him: the culmination of His Ministry to His disciples & others & the laying down of His Life for them. To many, Jesus' death meant failure, a riddance of a thorn in their flesh, an inability to accomplish what He had promised. But He knew that He did not come to meet the whims & fancies of men, but to bring sinners into the love & fold of God ( John 10:15,16). Men would hate & reject Him, but His Father's Plan for man's redemption would be fully accomplished & in this act of sacrifice & love, both the Father & Son would be glorified & Jesus' time of glorification had arrived - not by pomp & ceremony but by sacrificial Love.

    But such love was nothing new, for God is the embodiment of Love, Mercy, Grace, & Truth. But when Jesus came to Earth, that Glory was hidden from men, that only God would be glorified in the Face of Jesus ( 2 Corinthians 4:6). But now the Glory of Jesus would also be seen by those who believe - and this Glory that was once hidden would be returned to Him - as He said, "with the glory which I had with thee before the world was". Jesus, God's Word, was within God's Person, for He 'came out from God & came forth from the Father' ( John 16:27,28).
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on John 13 - 1 year ago
    Hi Jess L,

    This is a difficult subject to discuss openly. Being one is to be united in the holy love of God. The way we can do this is to become one with His Son, Jesus Christ the only way to the Father, John 14:6. When a man and woman are married, they become one as we through faith become one in Jesus. When Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist Jesus was filled without measure with the Holy Ghost/Spirit, God's Spirit, John 3:34.

    God was manifested in Jesus, John 14:10 1 Tim. 3:10. Jesus was the Tabernacle of God, John 10:38. Jesus and the Father are one John 10:30 and Jesus told us we can be one as He and the Father are one, John 17:20-23. Jesus did nothing on His own, only the will of the Father, Jesus was obedient to the Father, Rom. 5:19 and as you said, Jesus was sent by the Father, John 5:30. The doctrine Jesus laid out was not His doctrine but His who sent Him, the Father, John 7:16.



    All things are delivered unto Jesus of the Father, Matt. 11:27 and all in heaven and earth is under Jesus's feet, 1 Cor. 15:27 and will be until the last enemy is under His feet, that is death, Rev. 20:14. Jesus said the Father was greater than Him, John 14:28. Scripture says Jesus has a God, 2 Cor. 11:3 1 Eph. 1:3 Eph. 1:17 Col 1:3 Jesus said He had a God John 20:17.

    In the garden, Jesus prayed to the Father that the cup He was about to partake could pass if there was another way, but said not His will but the Father's will, Matt. 26:39. All the introductions, greetings, and blessings in the Scriptures in the New Testament that are given to the followers of Christ and called to be saints from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, two not three.

    Rom. 1:7-8 1 Cor. 1:3-4 1 John 1:3 2 John 1:3 2 Cor. 1:2-3 Gal. 1:3-4 Eph. 1:2-3 Phil. 1:2 Col. 1:2-3 2 Thess.1:2 1 Tim.1:2 2 Tim.1:2 Titus 1:4 Philemon 1:3 2 Pet. 1:2.



    You must study the Scriptures letting the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God guide you to your understanding, not from my reply, or man.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • GiGi - In Reply on John 13 - 1 year ago
    Dear Jess L.

    That is a very good question.

    Many would say that that God's Essence, (divine nature) is the same for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. There is only one Divine Essence and only those in the Godhead possess it to its fullest perfection and eternal existence. The Godhead is a union of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

    John 13:20 says: Verily, Verily, I say unto you, he that receiveth whomever (the Holy Spirit) I send receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveith him who sent me (the Father). Here Jesus speaks of three persons who are received by us and indwell us together as one God, not three.

    John 14:10 says " Believeth thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but my Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the work." Jesus is saying the when He speaks the Father is speaking in and through Him.

    And in John 14:23 Jesus says: " If a man love me, he will keep my words; and my Father will love him, and we will come and make our abode in him." Here, after promising to send the Holy Spirit vs. 16 and that the Spirit will dwell in us, says that when the Spirit is abiding in us, so is the Father and the Son. So here is a prime example of three distinct persons living in us as a unity.

    But it is in the relationship between the persons of the Godhead that there is a hierarchy. The Father is head of the Son and Spirit. He is in authority over the Son and Spirit, and the Spirit is subject to the Father and the Son. The Son is in submission to the Father. In this way, relationally, the Father is greater than the Son.

    Also, in terms of "offices" the authority of the Father is over that of the Son. Jesus will turn over to the Father all power and authority when all of God's enemies are put under Christ's feet, as promised by the Father and recorded as prophecy in Scriptures. Jesus said in John 10:8 that He only speaks what the Father speaks through Him.

    continued in pt. 2
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Part One: The love of God. Creation and salvation

    Psalm 51:10 states "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." Christ states that man must be born of water and the Spirit ( John 3:5) which refers either to physical birth first then spiritual; or the baptism associated with God granting repentance and someone being "born again."

    The Lord created man in the image of God; both male and female according to Genesis 1:27. Man was given all he needed to live a blissful existence as long as he remained in communion with God; he was given authority over all creation and asked to tend the garden. God's love; however already looked to the needed redemption of man foreseeing his fall; and thus Christ's sacrifice was planned before time began to bring this plan to effect and destroy Satan's temporary usurping of rulership on earth ( Gen. 3:15).

    Therefore; Jesus became as the second Adam. (see 1 Cor. 15:47-49 for further details). To put to death the old man expresses the ultimate love; for it is the natural state of the unredeemed soul that can never escape itself in eternal hell. The world and its lusts are temporary; but He has put eternity in the hearts of man. ( Ecclesiastes 3:11). He has promised that He will never leave nor forsake us ( Deut. 31:6; Heb. 13:5). He acts as high priest ever interceding for us ( Rom. 8:34; Heb. 14:15-16; etal).

    Along with eternal salvation; God accomplishes His will in our lives; and shows His love by chastising all those He loves. ( Heb. 12:6-7 and other verses). The Lord will lose none of His sheep or His elect as they will hear His voice ( John 10:1-4). Thus the work has been done on our behalf; we can do nothing to add to it or merit any favor. Thus our response should be to love Him accordingly and not to focus on what He can do for us in this life; but to seek that His will is done on earth as in heaven.

    The process of sanctification and glorification will be reviewed in future posts.
  • Stewart - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Whether literal or figurative truth, its still the truth. Jesus said I am the door. That is the truth. A figurative but the truth period. He gots Head shoulders knees and toes, we know what door looks like. But its the all true what is said John 10:9. Or is it literal when it says to pluck your eye out? Well yes, if that what it takes, but better just quit the sin and keep both them good eyes. There are Three (Literal)......They are one (Figurative, not 1 being but 1,2,3 beings one is Unity, They are God(The Father, The Son, The Holy Ghost), They were there at the beginning.) There are words like...........world, all, make, made, lost, fast, etc which we know to give each word in context its proper meaning. Its not for, but its for us today to know so I take it literal as it written like GEN 1:1 as I would other books, until a scripture could not be literal, buts its still speaks the truth. A figurative truth, but the TRUTH. There are parables, the beatitudes, songs, visions but the symbols explained, proverbs too. Fill me in the rest Im missing. When Jesus told Peter get ye behind me Satan, a double rebuke for trying to talk Jesus out of dying on the cross. Like the Lamentation to the King of Tyre from God too, for instance. I don't know it all and I am still learning.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Jud.9:1-6 "The Hireling" (1 of 2)

    The superscription refers to men whom Abimelech could hire to form his base. Hireling is a generic term collectively used to distinguish servants who work for their hire in a household while sons work to ease the burden of their father. Value of silver and of love do tell in secular as well as in heavenly relationships. Accordingly in times of danger ("The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep"-John10;13)"on the other Jesus as the good shepherd teaches what he shall do for his Father. "As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep( John 10:15)".

    In the world of the flesh hirelings are determined to better their prospects so they would gain more in terms of hire. Any improvement can be only in the tangible dollars and cents.The prodigal son in time of want was willing to work for offal because his prospect in an alien country could not be any better. He did some simple arithmetic and found in his father's house, labor of his hands fetched far greater as he had himself seen in the case of his servants."How many of my father's hired servants have food to spare, and here I am starving to death!( Luke 15:17-NIV)." Value of hire made sense to him only when he could relate his spiritual value in terms of his Father. It was matter of life and death. In the world of the flesh he was in the wrong place to count in terms of hire value of which fluctuates.

    Ironically great many all of them do not think in terms of life, and of the spirit but work themselves for golden sunset years only to find their life annuities have swindled away by companies they trusted. From the passage of the gospel cited earlier a child of God has a place of permanence to go to. Jesus as the good shepherd teaches from example of his life. "All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers:(10:8)" But Jesus speaks of them as thieves and robbers.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ulai River (2 of 2)

    With regards to Israel their sanctuary is not yet cleansed. This is short by 6 months from the command number 7, the tag for perfection. Four is the number applied to the ministry of Jesus who is the logos aspect of the Word.

    This missing 6 months from both can be explained by this line in the Book of the Revelation. "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour." (Re.8:1) Everlasting gospel shall be preached by the angel in heaven (Re.14:6-7) and we have a clue here in the saying of Jesus. "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."( John 10:16) This ministry of Jesus is from heaven. Thus we have the command number 4 apply to the Son who was also the Word made flesh.

    During this silence in heaven we have on earth another activity going on, sealing of the twelve tribes described in Ch.7. This number of martyrs multiples of 12,- the number 144,000 refer to the creation of one fold for whom Christ is the 'one shepherd.'
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema

    JESUS said: John 10:7-9

    9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, ...

    7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

    8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
  • Oseas - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 1 year ago
    Karoanne"

    The Word is from everlasting to everlasting, He has not begining nor ending. JESUS is the begining. The Word is GOD-John1:1-, The same was in the beginning -was in JESUS-with GOD- John 1:2. As said the angel of the Lord -John the Baptist - "No man hath seen GOD at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him". Isaiah 9:6 - Unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. JESUS said: I and my Father are One( John 10:30), and All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18.



    Who knows GOD? Who knows JESUS? Even JESUS Himself said: No man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27. It's it.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ronald.

    Part 4.

    PENTECOST.

    This is the beginning of the Christ church, and the Gospel first went out to the Jews, Peter was talking to the local crowd. "ALL Jews" Acts 2:5 "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Also Acts 2:22 and Acts 2:36.

    They were celebrating Shavuot-the Feast of Weeks-also known as Hag Ha Katzir, the Feast of Harvest, and known to most of us as the Feast of Pentecost. It is worthy to note that this feast was also one of three which was important for every able-bodied male to attend in Jerusalem.

    Peter was letting them know that they crucified their king and Messiah.

    Then in Acts 2:37 it's important to notice their reaction and what they asked; (Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, WHAT SHALL WE DO?)

    In verse 38 Peter answers them; Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    This repentance was to turn from Judaism and be Identified with Christ.

    They were pricked in their hearts shows a stone lifted that they stumbled over. Their baptism was their profession of faith. They were baptized by the Holyspirit during this process.

    John 10:7-10 you see the Lord is calling the Jews out of Judaism.

    In John 15:1 Jesus says I am the TRUE vine or "Genuine" vine. This is contrary to Israel being the degenerate vine seen in Jeremiah 2:21. John the Baptist came to Prepare the way for Lord, John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. This transition period went on throughout the early church.

    They were to turn from Judaism and believe on Christ as mentioned in John 6:29.

    Peter and the rest of the disciples was told to go Jerusalem to wait on power from on high. When they received that power, they begun to do the work of God.

    See Part 5.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Roanld.

    Part 3.

    Christ is life,

    The question is, have you died?

    Are you his sheep?

    What is the nature of sheep and how do they perform?

    What is the role of the shepherd?

    Salvation is not a performance or an acting Job. We are to be led by the Spirit and walk in it.

    When we get out of line, God chastise us. He's your father and you're his son, He never abandons us. When sheep go astray the shepherd goes out looking for them. Christ is the Chief Shepherd.

    John 10:3-4. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

    Ronald parallel John 10:9 with Joh 6:27 in part 2.

    John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

    If we have died in Christ, we should already be seeing the power of his Resurrection and not depend on those fleshly attempts that brought no fruit. (self-righteousness) in Paul's case the Law.

    Philippians 3:9-16.

    Christ is doing something new.

    He is putting his spirit in man that he might know him and do his statutes. "First to the Jews and then to the Gentiles, forming his Church.

    John 10:16.

    And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

    This brings us to Pentecost.

    See Part 4.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge.1:20-23 "Life Abundant"



    "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven."

    Referring the earth from the Psalm quote, "The fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein" belongs to God. He established it upon the floods which highlights the divine Will, "Let the waters bring forth abundantly.'The key word is life. Jesus coming to the word revealed the will of his Father, " I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."( John 10:10-KJ21; Ps.24:1-2) God by dividing light from darkness is leading us to the quality of His name. He called the dry land, earth "and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas." Separation of light and darkness is in His will serves a purpose; by the same purpose what shall we make of his command, 'Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life' ? It is held together in his Son. "And by him all things consist." (Col.1:17) "The 'moving creature' as species shall move from the land to become marine creatures vice versa. These dynamics owe to the quality life which is an expression of divine holiness. In naming the earth separation of light from darkness such migrations did not injure the quality of life. In the pitch darkness of the depth marine creature live as freely as land animal spread out in the dark foraging for food. It also throws up a great scriptural truth. "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich."(2 Co.8:9) Joseph was deprived of his parental home and in becoming the savior of his name the Spirit instructs us in terms of life the lame shall take the prey.' God made his Son an example.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    OSAS and relevant Bible verses

    "For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death." ( 2 Cor. 7:10).

    Hebrews 6:4-9

    4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.

    Perhaps the second set of verses from Hebrews helps to explain the first passage. In some sense; the wicked wish to turn away from all they have been enlightened with which in some sense explains why they can't be renewed into repentance since they have decided with all the evidence given to turn back to their sins. They have in some sense repented from committing to God and turned back to the world; flesh and the Devil being ashamed of what they consider foolish ways of ignorance apart from their own wisdom. Whether repentance can mean turning from God back to wickedness may be questionable; what is scary here is that much like Lucifer all the evidences of God's glory is seen and because of pride is rejected. As Jesus Himself said in John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. WE MUST NOT BE ASHAMED OF GOD'S METHOD to be admitted into heaven; it is the narrow way to life that must be followed ( Matthew 17:13-14). More in next post.
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    OSAS and the Parable of the Sower ( Matthew 13).

    19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

    20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

    21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

    22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

    23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

    Let us compare this scripture with these verses

    John 10:27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:"

    Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    Salvation isn't just us "accepting Christ" but us KNOWING Him and of course means He must "know" us. This word means the most intimate relationship and is used to describe relations between husband and wife in scripture. Hearing Christ therefore is only a first step on our part; the Pharisees were blind even though they saw (end of Matthew 23). Those who Christ know were those given to Him by the Father ( John 6:39). Predestination is a repeated theme in John indicating those who God gave the Christ to save. Salvation means goodfruit
  • Oseas - In Reply on Numbers 34 - 1 year ago
    GiGi on Numbers 35-YHWH instructs...

    1-YHWH

    2-Yahweh,

    3-Yehovah,

    4-Elohim,

    5-Adonai,

    6-HaShem,

    7-Yahusha

    8-YEHshia

    9-Jehovah

    10-YEHvah

    These 10 are one.Wouldn't they be the name of the father of the Jews? John 8:44-45.

    I am asking because according to the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD-, Acts 4:11-12 say:

    11-JESUS is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

    12 Neither is there salvation in any other:for there is none other NAME under HEAVEN given among men, whereby we must be saved.(Yes, there is none other NAME under HEAVEN except JESUS,that is the NAME that the own GOD chose for He Himself.JESUS said:I and my Father are One- John 10:30.And in the fourth Day after Adam,or around 2000 years ago,JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto(it was still the fourth Day),and I work- John 5:17). In my understand,GOD was never called by nicknames as above listed.The name of GOD is only one:JESUS.

    I don't quite understand why people lend credence to Kabbalistic and esoteric, and spiritists, sources(?)Think about it.

    "Yehovah", "Yehovih", et al. as above listed,are considered sacred names in Kabbalah,so what? I find this absurd. But what does the Word of GOD say? 1Tim.4:1-2:

    1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy;having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    Beloved, believe not every spirit,but try the spirits whether they are of GOD:because many false prophets are gone out into the world- 1John 4:1.

    1Jn 5:19-20:

    19 We know that we are of GOD,and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

    20 And we know that the Son of GOD is come,and hath given us an understanding,that we may know Him that is true,and we are in Him that is true,even in His Son Jesus Christ.This is the true God, and eternal life.

    May our Lord GOD bless and keep us,and give us His protection, now,and for ever.

    Amen
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Adam.

    Sorry for such a late response.

    Myself and several others on this site have debated this topic often and when debating you we've made it very clear that if a person is continuing in habitual sin, he is not likely a saved person.

    Adam, God chastise those that are his. He don't let his children get away with sin.

    Where you say a Christian can lose his salvation, We've said Everyone Professing Christianity is not saved, siting Matthew 7:21-23 and highlighting verse 23 "And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".

    Jesus said he knows his sheep.

    He also said I will never leave or forsake us.

    John 10:27.

    Hebrews 13:5.

    I've also referred people to this portion of scripture concerning this debated topic.

    Romans 5:20 through Romans 6:4.

    Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

    That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

    What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

    God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Abiding in Christ (2 of 2)

    God framed the worlds by his word and they are upheld by the word of power, which coming from the Son brings the earth as part of the Father Son relationship. "His Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;/ Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power," This being the case Jesus could claim, "I and my Father are one"( John 10:30). The Jews who heard his statement judged him and took stones to throw at him. In the Book of the Revelation we have the fall of Babylon which includes nations of the world, including Israel. The angel who threw the stone 'like a great millstone judged which came from the rightful Authority.(Re. 18:21).

    Symbolic values of a stone and of a Lamb are the same, which is not the case of the natural world.

    We shall consider this text: Re.22:3-5

    "But the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:/ And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads./ And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever."

    It is significant that Jesus Christ reveals himself in the inaugural vision to John announcing, "and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."(Re.1:18)

    At the end of the book we see Jesus Christ in his Omega aspect, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last./Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."(Re.22:13-14). Notice that gates to the city are no more shut? It indicates that we are looking at the day of Regeneration. "And the gates of it shall not be shut by day."

    Abiding in Christ is to let his grace work perfectly in our lives. He.13:5
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jema. Just a couple of points to note from your understanding of those passages you quoted. You believe that Simon the Leper ( Matthew 26:6) might be the same person, now named Lazarus (in John 11:1-6). As I understand it, the account of the sickness, death & resurrection of Lazarus (brother of Mary & Martha) took place some time before the account of Simon the Leper. Jesus was on His second journey (after first leaving Jerusalem (in Winter): John 10:22, then onto Jordan: John 10:40) when news came to Him of Lazarus' sickness ( John 11:3). But Jesus continued to stay at Jordan ( John 11:6) & then went to Bethany to deceased Lazarus.

    Now the account of Simon the Leper, also in Bethany, occurred very near to the Passover Feast ( Matthew 26:2). And we know this to be so, because after the woman's anointing of Jesus in Simon the Leper's home, Jesus' disciples were annoyed at the waste of this ointment, & Judas Iscariot then left them to put into effect his wicked act. And of course, Jesus then celebrates the Passover with His disciples at the appointed time. So the Lazarus (in John 11) & Simon the Leper (in Matthew 26) can't be the same person and of course it would have saddened Lazarus (& others) tremendously that he who died because of some sickness & was raised by Jesus, yet wasn't healed of his leprosy.

    As well, the account of the rich man & (the other) Lazarus ( Luke 16:19-31) is understood to have happened after the Lazarus (of John 11) was raised to life, not before. A synopsis of the Gospels shows that after Jesus began His journey towards Bethany, He also ministered along the way ( Luke 13:22 to Luke 17:1-10). After this, Jesus arrives in Bethany to see the lifeless body of his friend.
  • Duncan - In Reply - 1 year ago
    part 1

    Hi, Sorry I took longer answering,

    Before we continue I thank God for giving us this moment, I believe Jesus Christ is the son of the Living God and He died on the cross for my sins and He rose on the third day and He is sitting on the right Hand of Power Amen.

    The Bible the True word of God which can not be broken

    as it is written in JOHN 10:35

    35.If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

    -Points out to us that the Brutish man knowns not the things of God, for he is in the soulish so does a fool. Remember the fool, he has said in his heart that there is no God.and we Christians, this are the people who have came at the cross and have repented of their sins before the THE LORD JESUS Christ THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. know very well that the Heavens declare The glory of GOD.

    as it is written in plasm 19:1-2

    1.The heavens declare the glory of God;

    And the firmament sheweth his handywork.

    2.Day unto day uttereth speech,

    And night unto night sheweth knowledge. 3There is no speech nor language,

    Where their voice is not heard.

    The Soulish Level.

    When one runs on the soulish level, He does things to please himself, for example( ABCD People LGBT) their love is on this level of the soulish they are doing what gives them pleasure.

    -Yet they claim this is Love according to them But we Know in The scripture THE Bible, The Lord God who made the heavens This is sin and an abomination Before Him

    (plasm 96:4, KJV-GOD who made the heavens)

    another example is this

    -The dictator who runs a nation in fear and fist, and the power is for his family all the wealth goes to his accounts and the people running his empire and still he loves his family so much but he oppresses his subjects.

    Yet we know he has no mercy neither truth with him and within him.

    Read part 2...
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Tdinanne

    I've addressed your commenters, than your particular question, please forgive me

    As I consider your comment,

    You stated, that you are saved, & yet it appears that you don't know God's Voice.

    Friend,,,,Its impossible for one to be saved & not know His Voice.for how could He lead you out of darkness into His marvelous light without learning to know His Voice in the working out of your salvation ?

    John 10:3,4

    You stated, that you believe that you still need to do what is right to get to heaven, this is very true, God has place this within your heart, never let that go.

    You stated, don't we need to obey the ten commandment? This would be a good start & yet the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus exceeds the law of Moses. Matt 5:20-48

    You stated, I get so confused listening to different people preach, how do you know which one is right?

    Jesus said, John 18:37 Love the TRUTH, & you will learn His Voice, the still small Voice of conscience that accuses you when you do something wrong or excuses you when you do something right Rom 2:15

    This Treasure we have in our earthen vessel 2Cor 4:6, The Light of His Spirit, seek Him there

    in love & truth
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David0921,

    Isaiah 9:6 his name shall be called does not make him what the name is many Hebrew names have God in them. Jesus says He came in His Father's name.

    John 1:1-4 What is the beginning that John is referencing here? Is this the beginning/creation or is this John's prologue of his gospel, the beginning of Jesus's ministry, as in Luke 1:2 or 1 John 1:1? The word of God was in Jesus for everything Jesus said was not His words but the Father's words who sent Him, John 4:16 John 12:49 John 14:24.

    Jesus was the Tabernacle of God; God was manifested in Jesus, and this is the light that shined. The light that shined was eternal life 1 John 1:2. This life was given to the Son from the Father John 5:26 and we can have this gift through Jesus Christ our Lord Romans 6:23. Jesus proclaimed the Father, the Father was the Word which was proclaimed to the world, and the Word was God. In Revelation 19:13, Jesus's name is the Word of God.

    John 10:30 John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: As God and Jesus are one through Jesus we also can be one in unity and purpose.

    John 14:9 The Father was in Jesus by God's Spirit everything Jesus did and said was from the Father. This is what Jesus is telling them in verse 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

    I understand we differ, and this doctrine is deeply rooted, I do not want to offend anyone. I have studied the creation of it, and it was as much or more political than Scriptural, especially considering the number of lives that were taken because of it.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • David0921 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ronald,

    Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

    John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    How sin affects others

    There is a story somewhere although I don't know the details about a horse that steps on a nail; and somehow entire armies and their fate are affected by the results of a seemingly trivial event. Taken into the context of sin; and what seems like an innocuous "white lie" can often us into trouble. Just ask your mother how successful things such as forging their signature on a report card went (one of my "prevarications" during middle school).

    Taken on a spiritual level we could also talk about "white magic" or black magic attempting to justify seemingly harmless New Age practices as opposed to violent animal sacrifices as part of our rituals. Therefore; certain objects that by themselves are neither good or bad take on significance (such as crystals) and inevitably the practitioner gets deeper and deeper into the occult as the demons lead them by their master who of course is out to "steal; kill and destroy". ( John 10:10).

    Of course the cop out that the "devil made me do it" can only be taken so far. The enemy of our souls can only operate with God's permission (see Job 1 and 2); as well as having LEGAL ACCESS because of sin giving him the ability to enter in and weave his web of destruction.

    So far I have focused on how sin works to destroy us as individuals. History shows how whole nations can be brought to ruin because of demonic ideologies; Hitler in Germany being one obvious example. This was considered a civilized nation; highly cultural. When we consider the "enlightenment" of the 19th Century and the subsequent watering down of the churches; we see how the infiltration of facist ideologies was able to contaminate the church who caved into the "state church" concept (read about Barnhoffer). Similar situations occured in North Korea; Pyongyong apparently was known to be a great place of Christian revival 100 years ago and we see what has happened now. We see the end result today 2 generations after the 60's free love
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    P3

    Colossians 2:4 "And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words."

    1 John 2:1 "My little children these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sins we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:"

    Ephesians 2:3 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."

    Exodus 25:13

    Hebrews 9:5 "And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat; of which we cannot now speak particularly."

    John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."

    1 Peter 2:25 "For ye were as sheep gone astray; but now are returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls."

    Isaiah 42:1 "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring judgement to the Gentiles."

    John 8:28- 29 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak those things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always these things that please him."

    1 Timothy 2:8 "I will therefore that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting."

    Romans 9:5 "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

    Psalms 45:7 "Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, Thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

    John 17:1 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom thou has given me, that they may be one, as we are."

    P4 follows
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi CJF

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, I mean, is a Person, self-executable. Hebrews 1:1-3:

    1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    2 Hath in these last days (last two days or last 2.000 years) spoken unto us by His Son-JESUS-, whom GOD hath appointed heir of all things, by WHOM also He made the worlds;

    3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of GOD's PERSON (the Word made flesh), and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

    According to the Word of GOD above we can see two Persons. GOD the Father, the Word, and GOD the Son, the Word made flesh. By the way, the Word made flesh-JESUS-, He said: I and my Father Are One- John 10:30. And John 14:8-10 reveals:

    8 Philip saith unto JESUS, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

    9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

    10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

    The Word made flesh-JESUS-, He said: ...no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27.

    And John the Baptist,the angel of the Lord,said:No man hath seen GOD at any time,the only begotten Son,which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

    But who is the 3rd Person? What does the Word of GOD say, besides 1John 5:7?

    JESUS said: When the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you FROM the Father-the Word-,even the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the Father, HE shall testify of me-John:14:26

    When he,the Spirit of truth,is come,he will guide you into all truth:for he shall not speak of himself;but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall He speak
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi CJF,

    Godhead is a word that is in 3 verses in the KJV. Acts 17:29 Romans 1:20 and Colossians 2:9. Godhead comes from an Old English word godhede in 1200 AD. In Acts it is the Greek word theios that means divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature. In Romans, it is the Greek word theiots that means divinity, divine nature. In Colossians, it is the Greek word theots that mean deity, fulness of deity.

    These are three different Greek words that the translators chose to translate Godhead. You ask is the Godhead one God or three persons? Some use this word to refer to the doctrine of the Trinity but in the context of the chapters this word is used, does not refer to that.

    Godhead is God the Father himself, it pleased him to have all His divine fullness to dwell in His only begotten Son. The meaning for the word Godhead is the divine nature of God that was manifested in His only begotten Son, John 10:38 John 14:10.

    Your question is more about the doctrine of the Trinity I am sure others would reply on that.

    I hope this helps,

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Frankie J - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes, His Spirit

    the Rule & Guide of a Christian life

    Who inspired the holy men of God to write the Bible, which the Bible points to as the Giver of all Life, that we may freely become partake of the Life of Christ, that we may possess a personal intimate relationship with our Father though His Son Jesus Christ, who will cleanse us from all sin that we may become sons of God, by which God by His Spirit makes all these thing possible.

    1Cor 15:45 Job 33:4 Rom 8:9 John 10:10

    The letter can not do this & was not given to do this. Meaning the Strong Concordance or what wherever else their is out there, it maybe helpful to the little children, but its not necessary, man have put them in the place of His Spirit in discerning the things of God.,..

    For the Spirit is given for this very purpose to guide, convict, teach, comfort & counsel us. Jesus states, John 16:7

    He bringing us into the very Life of God the Scriptures give witness too, that all the holy men & women of God enjoy by His Spirit

    John 3:27 God,

    For the Father seeketh such to worship Him, meaning being led by His Spirit & Truth in all things that pertaineth to this life & without His Spirit leading us nothing is acceptable to Him. Jesus said that I only say & do as the Father reveals it to Me, our Forerunner

    David,

    The Spirit will always point to the Life of Christ as our Example, John 17:17-19 meaning the words God's Spirit led Him to say & do, sanctifies Him & us. 1John 2:6 1John 4:17 & will alway align Himself to the Scriptures which He, Himself inspired, along with mans nobler part, "sound reasoning". His Spirit bearing witness with our spirit.

    This is not against Scriptures, by no means, but fulfills them, we can't understand the truth imported by them, without the One who inspired them as Scripture plainly reveals 1Cor 2:9-14.

    Job 32:8

    You keep making these dogmatic statements, contrary to the Scriptures you point too!

    Friend, your intoxicated. Rev 17:2 Rev 18:3,4

    in L & T
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Nowhere; it likely came from what was a pagan winter celebration on the first day of winter solstice around December 21. It is claimed that the sheep being tended the way described meant that it wasn't early winter when Christ was born; they would be protected inside and not roaming freely in the cold and rainy season. Apparently some early traditions say it was March 25 from what I just read today.

    We see an even clearer Pagan dating with what is called "Easter" which came from "Ishtar" apparently; a pagan fertility celebration that occurred in Spring of each year. The proper word for celebrating the death; burial and resurrection would be either Resurrection Day or a fulfillment of the Passover feast. Clearly easter eggs and bunny rabbits have nothing to do with the Resurrection of Christ!

    This sort of logic could even be expanded to what we call Halloween today (which of course is a high holy day for Satanists and all those other pagan celebrants) Catholics have "All Saints Day" or "All Hallows' Day" on November 1 which in theory seems to be ok; this is similar to "St. Valentine" being associated with Valentine's Day; or "St Patrick's Day" in the Spring. Today; of course these events are celebrated as an Eros type of love fest in February; and drunken debauchery during parades in the Spring. The real St. Patrick would have rolled over in his grave seeing this-as it certainly appeared he was a true man of God with his quest to reach the Pagans in much of Ireland at the time.

    Hanukkah or the "Festival of Lights" is celebrated for 8 days right around the time of Christmas; and interestingly even though Christ went to the Temple at that time ( John 10:22-23) it isn't mentioned in the Old Testament! It comes from the time between the Testaments and is also known as the "Feast of Dedication." That is related to taking over or rededicating the Temple after Antiochus Epiphanes had briefly profaned the Temple in 168 B.C. and the Maccabean conquest.


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