Q: "In the everlasting covenant man is created 'after our image and our likeness" This being the template and established by Law of the Spirit" in 5:3 we have the order apparently changed. "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth."
A:Adam is the son of God because he is the living soul. Soul is set there after a similitude. In the Father Son relation the similitude in heaven is followed after on the Earth. His soul is as unique as our iris scan or gait recognition. No man can possess or kill it. It is divine breath which which He garnished the heaven and every thing else in it." "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth."(Ps.33:6). The same word is obeyed,"That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment."( Job 38:13-14)
So what is our image in the case of God? Take the attribute of light as Holiness of God. After our image sets God as the Father of light. Since Jesus Christ who was the Word made flesh, he is qualified as the true Light. After our likeness is word-based so In the Gospel of John we read "In him was life; and the life was the light of men.."( John 1:4) The Law of the Spirit sets life synonymous with light.
Adam possesses soul 'in his image' so the representational aspect of Jesus and Adam can be brought into stark relief. "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."Ge.1:17. Adam sinned and came under the law of sin. So he shall be called to account for his sin. In his image is not in our image. What made Seth step in place of Abel when he was created in the image of Adam a fallen man? He had faith as well as works to be counted 'After our likeness. (God)" said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel."4:25)
"I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake."
This vision presented to Amos has beam (lintel) and the posts serve as pillar. The idea is the weight of the masonry coming above the door is distributed evenly across the lintel to both sides of walls whether it is of stone masonry or of timber. If lintel represent the heaven the threshold connecting the posts at the doorway denotes the earth. In He.12 we have such a shaking,"Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."(12:26).
Smiting of the lintel of the temple of God is intended to shake the wicked out of the hallowed precincts of the temple, from his presence. "The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it." (Ps.75:3) The Spirit presents the heaven and the earth in such a manner heaven is spread across like carpet so the wicked can be shaken out it as one does with carpets in the spring to be rid of the accumulated dust.It is in this sense God tells Job in the quote. ( Job 38:13)
The Spirit has set the principle while organising the visions, where people places and events are described they shall consist of Jesus Christ since the Bible is the God document, "all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." The reason is simple:"For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell."(Col.1:19,15-16) Significance of "I am the door" is as relevant as this quote,"Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered."(Ze.13:7) Smite the lintel means 'smite the shepherd'. God shall take care of a remnant, "the little ones" but the sheep shall be scattered. This shall explain the diaspora of Israel as well as the great tribulation. The narrative mode is Min-Max so specific event overarches to latter days.
Well, it is as GOD's people have warned countless times,and I repeat, that the door would be shut, and it is already closed, in time and space, for all nations, for all mankind, since now and henceforward, instead of moving forward, they will stagnant as dammed as waters, or piled up, and they will not be able to go ahead. For example, like the waters of sea--> Job 38:
8Or who shut up the sea with doors,and set bars and doors,when it brake forth,as if it had issued out of the womb?--> (Sea=waters=are peoples,and NATIONS,and multitudes of all tongues-Revelation/ Apocalypse 17:15)
11And GOD said,Hitherto shalt thou come,but no further: and here shall thy proud waves(GENERATIONS)be stayed?
All NATIONS,all unbeliver mankind,and its generations,everyone will pile up as if a DIKE were in front of everyone.
Isaiah prophesied: 24:22
22And they shall be gathered together,as prisoners are gathered in the pit,and shall be shut up in the prison,and after many days shall they be visited. -->after the millennial kingdom ends.
This is the Word that matters and will prevail from now on,after all,
the ENDS of the times arrived,and the righteous Judgment of GOD and its consequences,the punishments,will be applied. Romans 2, take a look.
In this new time,this new Day,the seventh and last Day,the reality is that the mankind WILL NOT GO FORWARD with their political systems, and ideas, religions,economic systems,also theories of modus-vivend,projects,plans,dreams,in short,they will not go ahead with their usual activities,with their status quo of activities adopted until this current time,the door is already closed for this generations IN TIME and IN SPACE.And this is the Word that will prevail, the peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues will not go forward with their systems at all.
Luke 17:28-29
In the days of Lot;they did eat,they drank,they bought,they sold, they planted, they builded; but it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
"To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;"
God asks Job, Has the rain a father?(v.28a). The Spirit gives us the answer. "The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; The world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the floods."(Ps.24:1-2). His throne upon the floods means that it is not that you seek it in the lower parts of the heaven but towards the throne of God. The Spirit calls it bottles of heaven. " Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven, God created the earth by His word so fulness thereof consists of clouds the sun, the moon and including even the clay. In v.38 we read,"When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together" is it useless? "When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,/And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing." ( John 9:6-7)
"To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
God sent his word and healed applies to everything on man and grass. "My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass." (De.32:2)
"Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old./Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert./The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen."(Is.43:18-20)
"Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?"
"By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?"(v.24)
Division of light from darkness touches upon the everlasting covenant.(Ge.1:4) Parting of the light figuratively keeps day and night as separate kingdoms so ravens have day while the lions have the night (vv.39-41) Who feeds them? "(The lions) couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait" and the raven, "when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat? Benevolence of God upholds the celestial bodies by the word of his power; He "set a tabernacle for the sun,/Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race./His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." (Ps.19:4-6). Job would have no inkling how God is able to part the light as he parted the Red sea before the Israelites. God scattering the east wind is with reference to the quails to satisfy their lust for meat. Job would neither have knowledge of the leanness to their soul on account of it."But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, And tempted God in the desert. And he gave them their request; But sent leanness into their soul."(Ps.106:14-15)
"Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;" (v.25) Here the Spirit is referring to the Prophet challenging the prophets of Baal. (1 Ki.18:20-40). Significant is the apparent 'anachronism' of Job would have lived in the Patriarchal ages, and not in the age of kings. Here we have the example of Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever"
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
In the earlier part we saw the everlasting covenant was the people's covenant where the fellowship of God with man gave the saints a volume with spelled the fulness of God where the Word serves as the law. Here we shall see it is Person specific.
"And set bars and doors,/And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"
This is demonstrated in this incident where Jesus stilled the storm. "And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm." (Matt.8:23-27) The story of Jonah is associated with the sea. Jesus refers to his own death and resurrection as a sign. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."(Matt.12:40). Setting bars and windows place the earth as one to which clouds serve a purpose as well.
"The waters are hid as with a stone."(v.30) This stone serves as stopper So when God sends the great flood we have its use. " In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened./ And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."(Ge.7:11-12) The Law or the word of God has already set doors and windows in heaven as well as on earth. Forty days (4x10) refers to this word that went forth from God.
Blessing of man in his Son sets his transience as of no great consequence since his olume is made permanent by his Son.
Blessings always come from the greater to the lesser. So God asks, "Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?/ Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?" (vv.2-29) Within His holiness what is seen is temporal and what is unseen is eternal. (2 Co.4:18) Life as a vapor.
In order to understand the volume of man, Ch. 38 of the Book of Job shall help us. The same division of the two worlds framed by the word of God sets man having a body and spirit within which the Word serves as a seed which as part of the inner man is unseen. By fruits one shall know and it is what works would mean. "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."(Matt.7:17-20)
God challenges Job so we shall examine what are boundaries of our world made to appear as well as what is seen or the fruits thereof. Blessedness of the tree planted by the waters has a volume (Ps.1:3) Our study on Job can help us from wandering off course by keeping focus on the tree planted by God.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." These foundations are unseen and as many pillars God has set up for the House that Wisdom built (Pr.9:1) shall be seen. So there is an order in keeping with holiness of God. These foundations are the seven days in the everlasting covenant. The House with seven pillars are intended to last everlasting and as the people's convent and we have this testimony saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God."(Re.21:3). This is marked eternity. Our own makeup where Christ dwells in us by faith consequently must hold a working relationship. St Paul's prayer makes it clear, "That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;/That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,/May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;"(Ep.3:16-20) The indwelling Spirit is grow into the fulness of God. It is how we set our inner man the sign for the word of God working in us.
"Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;/Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:/But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it." (Nu.14:22-24). This song is not sung according to canon of music and of harp invented by Jabal.(Ge.4:21) This is heavenly music so we are shown martyrs having harps of God. In the Book of Job we have God asking him,'where wast thou "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 38:7)
"And they sung a new song," (Re.5:9)
"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." (Ep.5:19-21) This breaks out in spite of our earthly circumstance because the Spirit within us keep the beat with what goes on in the kingdom of God. This speaks of the volume a man blessed of God has.
"And (Thou) hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth./And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne."(Re.5:11-13)
Blessings we counted in Seven days and these lead us to the Rest where God rested from his labours. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."(Ge.2:3) What is the work of God that we may do? It is to believe in the Son whom he sent. "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."( John 6:29)
This Rest is compared to the House which wisdom built and it has seven pillars (Pr.9:1) As with seven pillars it has seven foundations. God asks, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." ( Job 38:4) It is called Zion.The Tabernacle of God among men is his holy habitation. "His foundation is in the holy mountains./The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob./ Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah."(Ps.87:1-3). The everlasting covenant in seven days relate to seven pillars of this tabernacle where heaven earth and below are reconciled in Jesus Christ. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him."(Col.1:16)
Blessing of the seventh day (Ge.2:1-3) is for who enters therein and it is by faith.
87:2. "All the dwellings of Jacob are same as Babylon, Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia and all these are dwelling place for men. But of them God has counted those blessed who are born in Zion. "The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there."(87:6)
Gates of Zion signify salvation. "Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in."(Ps.24:7)
1:1 The heaven and the earth, two worlds framed by the Word which is God. we have been called blessing #1
1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void". We were entered in the book . "and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."(Ps.139:16)
The Spirit of God working on 'the waters' implies 'Darkness as a cloak in which God dwells.' It gave us an understanding'. In Job we read it is compared to a "swaddling band' meaning God possessed our upkeep as though we were infants. The lack of it is mentioned in Ez.16:4 ( Job 38:9)
1:3-5 first day God separated light from darkness and set us for inheritance in light in Christ. This blessing #1 is added to us being part of the kingdom of his dear Son. Blessing is counted as the first day.
1:6-8 Blessing known as the second day: waters above the firmament is called mercy while waters below is called the grace. In his earthly ministry Jesus defined it thus, "My father worketh hitherto, and I work." ( John 5:17; Lam.3:22-23) We were called in the beginning in his Son and are kept by the grace of God.
1:9-13 The worlds framed by the word of God is the kingdom of God where the world made to appear has the dry land and the seas. The Earth abides forever because the world is called the kingdom of his dear Son.(Ec.1:4; Col.1:13). The command number Three applies to the Son. The day Three is a blessing. "And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas." Holy is his name. We are urged to be holy. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"(Ep.1:4)
Trees of righteousness in vv.11-12, "and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself" refer to the word of God which is truth and it sanctifies us. "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."( John 17:17)
"When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling-band for it,/And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,"
Power and Wisdom is fullness of God and it is the nature of God. Holiness is Person specific. When God says, "Be ye holy, for I am holy" it explains the St Paul quote, " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell"(Col.1:19) we are battle ready so to speak. Full armour of God has a natural world to back it up. It is thus the sea signifies the saints redeemed from the power of darkness into the kingdom of his dear Son. "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:/Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son."(Col.1:12-13). We have the cloud of witnesses and God so the woman clothed with the Sun gives our state as inheritors with Christ in light. Being confident that God has set bars and doors we walk by faith and not by sight. How we stay the course despite of the wiles of the enemy our middle state ought to assure, the battle is of God and nothing personal. All we need is faith and patience at every turn that God who made heaven and the earth is our fulness.
Science may explain the natural world and say all plants grow by photosynthesis. Millennia of terrestrial living tells that it is true. But recently it has been discovered that "dark oxygen' is being made at 13,000 feet below the ocean surface. God has a way in the depths of which we read " In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."(Ge.7:11-12)the word of God speaks of the fountains of the deep and windows of heaven. Fulness of God sets bars and doors for His children, a secure place in moments of distress and peril.
"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
The preceding verse gives us a context and it is the spirit of the anti-christ which,"and even now already is it in the world." So et us be vigilant. James in his epistle asks, "Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."(Jas.4:4). So first we shall settle 'what is greater in you." St John speaks, You are of God, and in the pluperfect tense our victory is already complete in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As promised he has also given us the indwelling Spirit. So what is our volume? "And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven." (Col.1:20) His fulness is our fulness and it how the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters before He decreed the day for his Son. So we are in the kingdom of his dear Son. We are a drop of water even as nations are compared to drop of water in a bucket.
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." (Ro.8:10). We are to all intent and purpose in heavenly places and our lives are hid in him. Our fulness comes from God and from his word. God challenges Job with a question, "Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?"( Job 38:8) The sea with doors is like a web,- word wide web, it is to which the Parable of the Dragnet refers." Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:/Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away." It is for a believer to determine if he abodes with Christ or not.
We know Seth is the line that goes all the way to the Messiah Jesus therefore when Seth had Enosh, this line was the only one walking and calling on the name of God. We see Enoch and Noah walked with God but by the time of Noah all had corrupted themselves, whether they had created false gods, we are not told but their imaginations were evil.
I may have a different understanding of the sons of God, we see in Luke 3:38 that Adam was called the son of God because he was a direct creation of God, he had no human father. Jesus is the Son of God and through Jesus, we can become sons and daughters of God, but I have not found where men are called sons of God.
If we take the sons of Seth as sons of God, would we not have to take the daughters of men the daughters of Cain or all the other men who did not call on the name of God? They all are from Adam and Eve would not all the daughters be fair? The flood was 1656 or 2256 years from Adam, and it says when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them. So, this was long before the flood.
We see in the Bible the sons of God are referring to angels as we see in Job 1:6-12Job 2:1 and Job 38:7. I have not found where men were called sons of God until after the Messiah Jesus and those who believe in Him can become sons of God.
We know there are fallen angels like Satan and others on this earth but there are other angels God has locked in chains of darkness I suppose is the bottomless pit until judgment, 2 Peter 2:4Jude 1:6. My understanding is these are the sons of God who corrupted and polluted God's creation that He destroyed all but eight. We see this happened again after the flood as told in Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also, after that, as we see in Scripture some tall as cedars, Amos 2:9.
To start; I used to have a similar understanding of the Trinity doctrine but over time it has changed, and I am still studying it. I do not consider myself part of any group or denomination other than a believer and follower of Jesus. I feel we should inspire each other to study in prayer for the truth and to be open to the Holy Spirit to unveil the truth as we know nothing.
With me, it started with two verses, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, I contemplated these verses for a long time, it was like they stuck in my mind unanswered. In my study of the Trinity, I found out how it developed and how many deaths it caused even after the Reformation, and the questions I asked in Churches, many could not explain it and said it is a mystery that man cannot comprehend.
Is God and has He always been one solitary person?
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD, Mark 12:29 and as said in 1 Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. My understanding is God the Father is eternal He has always been and will always be Psalms 90:2. God is Spirit, if a person means He has a will, emotions, the ability to speak, rationalize, self-awareness, to have a relationship with His creation, love, hate, etc. yes one person.
Before creation was, He always and only alone, without anyone to love?
What was before creation in Scripture we have no writings or information, Scripture tells us the hosts of heaven were before the creation of the earth and the galaxies, Job 38:4-7. How long before the physical world and universe we see we do not know. God's plan He declared the end from the beginning, Isaiah 46:9-10. I may be wrong, but God has never been alone inside Himself, time nor space cannot contain who He is, the beginning of His plan was Jesus.
A look at the Pre Trib rapture and the madness to come
Revelation 5:12 describes those in heaven praising God but we also see evidence that ALL those on earth will also do the same; even those who are under the earth (possibly the dead souls in hades). I have said before that if the rapture is hidden the RESURRECTION of the dead saints from graves all over the world surely WON'T be able to remain hidden.
There are several themes in scripture that this reminds us of. First the state of all the angels praising God as seen in Job 38:7.
Lucifer fell AFTER this event; how quickly it is unknown but it may have seemed to be a shock to the 2/3 that remained faithful to their state of holiness to see 1/3 fall away with him ( Revelation 12:4 shows the end result). Of course the fall of man brought sudden issues as well. It didn't take long for the first murder to occur with Adam's firstborn son. And we could see shades of the same thing at the tower of Babel shortly after the flood.
What man will crave will be brought about; no doubt by Antichrist's delusion of peace at the first seal ( Rev. 6:1-2). This is going to appear to be a great light of hope (see 2 Cor. 11:14). Shades of the peace and security now will come to the climax with the Daniel 9:27 covenant being CONFIRMED or an original one made stronger (likely what is now known as the Abraham accords).
Whatever illusion of peace that comes will be short lived as the inevitable decay of society will result in the rest of the seal judgments of war; famine and pestilence to kill 1/4 of men (which appears to all occur BEFORE the mark of the Beast).
Those who end up following Antichrist will also worship the dragon (Satan) as seen in Rev. 13:14-18 who gives power to the Beast. They eventually end up fighting God as we see from Psalm 2 and Revelation 19.
Many have argued that out of fear men will be somehow tricked or coerced to take the mark. Revelation 13:8 seems to argue against this as WORSHIP occurs.
The Bottles of heaven "clouds": it is an allusion to the girbahs, In the Hebrew its nay'-bel its a skin bag for liquids or bottles made of skin, in which they are accustomed to carry their water
God is asking Job does he know how God controls the weather!
It has nothing to do with you and I being a old bag of wine and it doesn't have anything that suggests one day we will be Gods.
I'm telling you this because that is what Jordyn is presenting to you.
Be careful! He has a way of spiritualizing the scripture and making it say what he wants it to say.
We know him well, He's been on this site for many years under several different names presenting this false doctrine.
The clouds in Hebrews is "nephos" it's used to picture a large dense multitude.
The clouds used in Job is "shachaq"
a powder (as beaten small); by analogy a thin vapor; by extension the firmament: - {cloud} small {dust} {heaven} sky. (Strongs definition in the Hebrew.)
The usage has no parallel.
Read Job 38:1-41 and get the context.
Now concerning the wine skins in Matthew 9:14-17.
verse 14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
John was the Last of the old testament prophets.
He came to announce the coming of the King.
Christ came to usher in something New.
Verse 16 and 17 Christ explains the change of dispensations.
The old dispensation of law was ending and Christ didn't come to patch it up, He came to present a new garment.
We being the body of Christ and Christ being the Head represents we being baptized into union with Christ and him being Lord over his body. He's the head and Lord over our lives by the quickening Spirit that rose Christ from the dead.
You are right, the old (wine bottle) has passed away, and YOU ARE the NEW (bottles of heaven).
Job 38:37 Who can number the CLOUDS (of heaven) .... Mark 14:62 ..... Hebrews 12:1 ...... IN WISDOM? or who can stay the bottles of heaven.
You DIED with Christ, but only Christ arose, YOU were a JOINT HEIR with Christ in the Kingdom of God, Christ is the kingdom of God.
You DIED, only Christ is alive and YOU are the Body of that LIFE, as Christ is the BODY of the LIFE of his Father.
You said you want to lead a LIFE of OBEDIENCE, You DIED, ONLY Christ exist, he is the LIFE, and you the Body, He CAUSES you to do his WILL, Christ, The Body, walks in total obedience to his Father's Life (Spirit); therefore, if and when you come to TRUTH, you walk in total obedience.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN of God (resurrected as ONE FLESH), doth not commit sin; for HIS SEED (Christ) remains IN HIM, and he CANNOT SIN, because he is BORN of God (resurrected as ONE FLESH with Christ).
You obey and honour God when you BELIEVE his words.
"Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in."
Jesus riding into Jerusalem is specific which according to the narrative mode of the Spirit has its spiritual ancillary. In the gospel we read, "And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."(Matt.21:9) Multitudes going before similarly has its multilayered meaning. 'The multitudes point to the prophets as in the epistle to the Hebrews, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,/ Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,"(He.1:1-2). They 'that followed' by the same token agree with those whom the risen Christ sent "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations," (Matt.28:19)
The city doors were only one part in his circuit to the glory that awaited him. These doors signifying Jerusalem is only associated with the Word become flesh and beyond that to its everlasting shame we have this condemnation," And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."(Re.11:8)
We have another gate through which God sent his Son the King of glory to enter. God out of the whirlwind asks Job,"Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?"( Job 38:17) He is the king of glory because he triumphed over death. "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."(Ac.2:24)
"And this is the gate of heaven," which Jacob saw in his dream,(Ge.28:17) through which Jesus Christ went up. "Why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."(Ac.1:11)
Genesis 1:1 The Hebrew word shamayim meaning heaven, heavens, sky, and lofty, is in the Bible over 400 times and it is masculine plural. The Hebrew word for water is mayim it is also masculine plural, due to ending in im. They are plural nouns but can be dual, as the names of people and places in the Bible end in im. Translating it into English would depend on the context.
Some translations have heavens, and some have heaven but what is Genesis 1:1 saying? Some say this includes all three heavens, some even put a gap between verses 1 and 2, but what beginning is this? The third heaven is where God's throne and the angelic beings are, they were already there. They were before this world and universe as we see in Job 38:4-7 so this is our beginning, not the beginning of all creation.
My understanding is this verse is the introduction to the creation of the things that can be seen that are temporal that one day will all be made new. What I see is God waved His hand and all that is in our universe and our world was created and it all was in darkness and chaos. Nothing was formed or brought forth into order, the light shined into the darkness, light was the first day, the beginning of order that we see take place in the following verses.
The Spirit invests significance in the four cardinal directions, North, South East West which is not merely across but also up and down. Across gives us the outreach of the everlasting gospel but up and down also reveal where the living water shall go up or down. We have the four river heads in the context of the Garden of Eden. "And the fourth river is Euphrates."(Ge.2:14)
In the Book of the Revelation when the sixth angel sounds the trumpet we have this command,"Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates./And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men." (Re.9:14-15). They have been prepared for a specific purpose. It is hour of judgment. For this reason we have this expression 'Foundations' which are invisible to which Hannah alludes in her song of praise. "For the pillars of the earth are theLord's, and he hath set the world upon them." (1 Sa.2:8)
God demands answer from Job, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding./Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?/Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;" ( Job 38:4-6)
Because of this when the red dragon would hurt the left behind church God had prepared already a remedy. "And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood./And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth."(Re.12:15-16)
The living water carry the redeemed to the throne of God while the second group is sent to the hinter sea which is Abaddon."nd they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, -Apollyon (Re.9:11)
Nothing is hid from God's presence, "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known".( Luke 12:2). Face in the parlance of the Spirit is simply a term to define a surface that is open before God, and implies beginning of a process, as in the face of Cain. God asks him, "The LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen?" (Ge.4:6-ESV). His 'countenance' (KJV) or face was open before him.
By the same token the creation account presents, "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters".(Ge.1:2). Its reaction we have in this verse, "The waters saw thee, O God, the waters saw thee; they were afraid: the depths also were troubled" (Ps.77:16).
From the convulsions the deep presented before the Spirit we can infer that the face holds a quality. As God tells Job ' it is turned as the clay to the seal.'( Job 38:14) This explains the manner God framed the worlds by his word. He commanded 'Fiat Lux' and consequently the things, which came to the surface were seen, as hidden depths of Cain's heart were mirrored in his face. The will of God brought the earth as clay to the seal. It is as finished as the will of God shall be complete and wanting nothing more. So we have this certainty, "For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."(Ro.11:29-NKJV)
Face is the presence of God, which St Paul annotates in this verse, "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."(2 Co.4:6) Coming back to the creation account the Spirit of God moving upon the waters gave every water vapor a certain ability to know the glory of God, ( Jas 4:14). Ro.1:19-20. "So we are without excuse."
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have BELIEVED do enter into REST (the sabbath), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall ENTER IN TO MY (the sabbath) REST; although the WORKS were FINISHED from the foundations of the world.
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the GOSPEL preached, as well (as it was preached) TO THEM ......
We are just playing out what has ALREADY been written.
God's will is BEING DONE.
We are JUST POTS being CONFORMED into the IMAGE of Christ. From the first man TIL the last man.
Revelation 22:13 "I AM " Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the FIRST and the LAST.
Romans 8:29 .... he did PREDESTINATE to be CONFORMED to the IMAGE of son.
Job 38:7 When all the morning stars SANG TOGETHER (all became ONE), the SONS of GOD (all became ONE) shouted for joy?
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou hast GIVEN ME, I HAVE GIVEN THEM (finished from the foundations of the world), that they may be ONE, even as WE ARE ONE.
Psalms 46:10 Be still and know "I AM" God ......
Isaiah 26:3 Thou will KEEP HIM in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee .....
Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth. ( John 9:41).
In the Old Testament we see the mad Prophet Balaam stopped by a donkey who God readily used to block his way and for a mouthpiece of rebuke. ( 2 Peter 2:16-18 as quoted in the N.T. from Numbers 22-24). We see also how the demons Jesus cast out knew who Jesus was ( Mark 3:11-12). This is somewhat understandable from the fact that the angels were there to see God in heaven and witness the creation of the earth ( Job 38:7).
We are warned in James 2:19 about not just saying that we believe in God. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom; this is quoted many times in scripture. The conscience of men can be seared after some time; hearts hardened ( 1 Tim. 4:2; Exodus 7:3 and subsequent verses with Pharaoh). A believer has a healthy awe based on God's Holiness; and without holiness no man can see God ( Heb. 12:14).
Only man could see the miracles of Christ and still remain in unbelief. That would not just be related to the physical miracles when on earth; but also the miracle of salvation which often was accompanied by deliverance in scripture but which we see today. Mercifully God forgives any sin against the Father or Son is forgivable ( Matt. 12:32); but against the Holy Spirit is not.
The Spirit demonstrates His Holiness amongst the ministry of John 16:8 warning the world of sin; righteousness and judgment to come. The opposite of a broken and contrite heart is pride and self righteousness (only the sick need a physician Matt. 9:12).
Therefore such Pharisitical people also make their own twisted judgments on right and wrong and condemn others based on that mindset.
May we read scripture for its true meaning not through any man centered agenda; respecting ALL of it as God's Word ( 2 Tim. 3:16). May we have a heart to always glean new truths from God; seeking His face daily ( Psalm 1:2
Simply put; the Holy Spirit is the method of displaying Christ's presence on earth. Hebrews 6:4-8 as well as 1 Peter 2:3 show that those who have tasted the heavenly gift and other things of the Spirit as well as the powers of the coming age to be renewed once again to repentance once fallen away. This ties in for several reasons to the text in Matthew 12:31. We must remember first of all that much like Satan Himself Christ's works were made manifest for all men to see and thus nothing more could be done after witnessing undeniable miracles such as blind being healed which had never been seen in O.T. times. Also; of course the Pharisees accused him of using the power of Beelzebub to perform His miracles; despite the fact that the Spirit even before the church age was there such as with John the Baptist to convict the world of sin; righteousness and judgment to come. ( John 16:8). The Pharisees denied the Divinity of Christ and that was after all they saw and Christ saying that He was the I AM ( John 8:58). Therefore they wouldn't accept worshipping Him and His Divinity as a member of the Godhead was hidden from them. Therefore Satan was truly their God. ( John 8:44).
Satan Himself was built on pride and self-exaltation therefore was mad enough to desire worship for himself despite being in heaven and seeing God's glory and no doubt the earth and the rest of Creation therefore he was given no chance of repentance ( Job 38:7). We see singing in that verse; something Lucifer as Cheribum was designed to do in charge of worship but it was turned to evil. By default then Satan is the God and loyalty of all who do this to the Spirit; most will sin and admit God is righteous or simply hate God or be afraid (as in the sixth seal); eventually Satan will be sent for those who LOVE not the truth but a lie ( 2 Thess. 2:10). Like it or not Antichrist will eventually blasphemy God and yet all those not in the Book of Life will worship him and be damned ( Rev. 13:8).
You asked: How does Satan deceive this whole world? Rev.12:9
Revelation was written in the first century of Christian Era, at that time the Devil had already deceived mankind for around 4000 years, even JESUS was tempted by the Devil I suppose in Neguev, but Satan still had not 7 heads; The 7 heads was still in the embryo.
But now, in this current time of Apocalypse, around 2000 years AC, the body of the Devil will be completed with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads.His new name now is red Dragon-Rev.12:9-,and his TAIL drew (shall cast down)the third part of the STARS of heaven to the earth.(STARS? who are the STARS? Job 38:4&7 combined with Daniel 12:3).
When the red Dragon-Rev.13:11-gives his POWER,and his Throne in Jerusalem,and great Authority to the Beast of sea, upon which rides de great whore-the Roman Catholic Church-then the holy city will be trodden by the Gentiles- Luke 21:24 combined with Rev.11:2, and he will join Catholicism and Judaism(iron and clay- Daniel 2), then the body of Satan/the Dragon will grow exceedingly, but it will grow even more with the adhesion of evangelical churches whose angels are fallen or spiritually dead, these will form or constitute the TAIL of the Dragon, these will believe in the false messiah, the Beast that will rise from the earth(Israel, the clay, the dry land), a false lamb, a false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined from Revelation 13:11, then the Red Dragon's body will be complete with his 7 heads, 10 horns and a TAIL. By the way, the origin of the false messiah is of the 10 tribs of Israel,especifically of the trib of Dan- Genesis 49:17.
He will exercise all the power of the first Beast before him,will cause the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast(of sea)whose deadly wound was healed.
And he will do great wonders,so that will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and will deceive them that dwell on the earth by the means of...
The old testament hope is the son of righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. Malachi 4:2.
The morning star always rises at the darkest time of the night.
It indicates that the sun will be coming up shortly.
Job 3:9. "Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Here in Job 38:7 it indicates there's several morning stars.
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
Isaiah 14:12 indicates Satan is just one of the many.
I believe Jesus is the Morning star for the Saints, Letting us know there's Light ahead of these dark times.
2Peter 1:19 puts it this way;
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Assurance of salvation: Corulers with Christ or coconspirators with the Devil.
It is helpful to go back to the Creation story to see God's original plan and design for man; and the results of the fall. In this segment I will look at the enemy of our souls ( 1 Peter 5:8). Lucifer's fall is covered in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. When we see that narrative play out we see where sin actually originated and the cause was mainly pride. That blossomed of course to violence and other things ( Ezekiel 28:16) which I would briefly propose was an angelic society which may have started in heaven and perhaps led to a judgment between Genesis 1:1 and 1;2 sometimes called the "gap theory". For our purposes we will summarize that there had to be some time for the angels to be drawn to follow Lucifer; as well as to some time after all the angels sang to God's glory at creation before he fell ( Job 38:7-9).
Lucifer was much like man; in the sense that he was created to worship and adore the Lord; made flawless and beautiful and in innocence there was nothing wrong about that. He was a Cherub ( Ezekiel 28:14); therefore at an elevated status much like Adam and Eve were given authority to rule and reign over the rest of Creation in a unique role and status.
The serpent was used by the enemy to deceive through appealing to man's hidden knowledge that could somehow elevate his status and bring them something more than God intended as the real thrust of the temptation. A lack of TRUST in God is where the real issue is; and that of the heart of man which Jeremiah 17:9 makes it clear is desperately wicked. Therefore; what God made had the potential to become corrupted and wicked; in the same token one who is saved is made to glorify God and destined to become as Paul stated a "celestial body" ( 1 Corinthians 15:40). There is a resurrection for all men; but one to eternal soul damnation for the wicked ( John 5:29). The wicked cannot enter the Kingdom of God ( Rev. 21:27).
The substance of the material for the furniture of the Tabernacle was different in the Holy Place. In the outer court, brass was the prevailing material since it had to do with the judgment of sin. In the Holy Place, gold was the material that predominated. This was no accident or chance occurrence. Gold was the only object that set forth in such a visible way the deity of Christ. Two objects of furniture, the lampstand and the mercy seat, were made entirely of gold.
The lampstand was the perfect symbol of Christ as the Son of God:
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( John 1:9)
He was a "light of the Gentiles" ( Isaiah 42:6). Had He been philanthropic and had not come out of God, He would have been merely another teacher "that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge" ( Job 38:2). He would have only added another ethical system to the already multitudinous and multifarious systems, and He would have been but the harbinger of darkness "through philosophy and vain deceit" ( Colossians 2:8). But as the Son of God, He "is light, and in him is no darkness at all" ( 1 John 1:5).
The lampstand was handmade of beaten work and was highly ornamented. There was a central shaft with three branches on a side, making seven branches in all. Each branch contained three sections, each section being beaten into the shape of an almond blossom and a knop. On top of each shaft was an open almond blossom. On each of these were placed the olive oil lamps.
Thousands of years before you, there was a man called Job, and he essentially asked an even tougher version of the same question; that's essentially what Job chapter 3 through chapter 37 is all about.
When Job had finished asking the same questions you are asking, do you know how the LORD began His answer to Job? "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"
- Job 38:2
And again, "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? He that reproveth God, let him answer it."
- Job 40:2
Do you know what Job realized after the LORD was done? " . . . Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not."
- Job 42:3
To your question, there will be no greater than what the Scriptures have given in the book of Job.
Q: "In the everlasting covenant man is created 'after our image and our likeness" This being the template and established by Law of the Spirit" in 5:3 we have the order apparently changed. "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth."
A:Adam is the son of God because he is the living soul. Soul is set there after a similitude. In the Father Son relation the similitude in heaven is followed after on the Earth. His soul is as unique as our iris scan or gait recognition. No man can possess or kill it. It is divine breath which which He garnished the heaven and every thing else in it." "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth."(Ps.33:6). The same word is obeyed,"That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment."( Job 38:13-14)
So what is our image in the case of God? Take the attribute of light as Holiness of God. After our image sets God as the Father of light. Since Jesus Christ who was the Word made flesh, he is qualified as the true Light. After our likeness is word-based so In the Gospel of John we read "In him was life; and the life was the light of men.."( John 1:4) The Law of the Spirit sets life synonymous with light.
Adam possesses soul 'in his image' so the representational aspect of Jesus and Adam can be brought into stark relief. "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."Ge.1:17. Adam sinned and came under the law of sin. So he shall be called to account for his sin. In his image is not in our image. What made Seth step in place of Abel when he was created in the image of Adam a fallen man? He had faith as well as works to be counted 'After our likeness. (God)" said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel."4:25)
"I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake."
This vision presented to Amos has beam (lintel) and the posts serve as pillar. The idea is the weight of the masonry coming above the door is distributed evenly across the lintel to both sides of walls whether it is of stone masonry or of timber. If lintel represent the heaven the threshold connecting the posts at the doorway denotes the earth. In He.12 we have such a shaking,"Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."(12:26).
Smiting of the lintel of the temple of God is intended to shake the wicked out of the hallowed precincts of the temple, from his presence. "The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it." (Ps.75:3) The Spirit presents the heaven and the earth in such a manner heaven is spread across like carpet so the wicked can be shaken out it as one does with carpets in the spring to be rid of the accumulated dust.It is in this sense God tells Job in the quote. ( Job 38:13)
The Spirit has set the principle while organising the visions, where people places and events are described they shall consist of Jesus Christ since the Bible is the God document, "all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." The reason is simple:"For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell."(Col.1:19,15-16) Significance of "I am the door" is as relevant as this quote,"Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered."(Ze.13:7) Smite the lintel means 'smite the shepherd'. God shall take care of a remnant, "the little ones" but the sheep shall be scattered. This shall explain the diaspora of Israel as well as the great tribulation. The narrative mode is Min-Max so specific event overarches to latter days.
8Or who shut up the sea with doors,and set bars and doors,when it brake forth,as if it had issued out of the womb?--> (Sea=waters=are peoples,and NATIONS,and multitudes of all tongues-Revelation/ Apocalypse 17:15)
11And GOD said,Hitherto shalt thou come,but no further: and here shall thy proud waves(GENERATIONS)be stayed?
All NATIONS,all unbeliver mankind,and its generations,everyone will pile up as if a DIKE were in front of everyone.
Isaiah prophesied: 24:22
22And they shall be gathered together,as prisoners are gathered in the pit,and shall be shut up in the prison,and after many days shall they be visited. -->after the millennial kingdom ends.
This is the Word that matters and will prevail from now on,after all,
the ENDS of the times arrived,and the righteous Judgment of GOD and its consequences,the punishments,will be applied. Romans 2, take a look.
In this new time,this new Day,the seventh and last Day,the reality is that the mankind WILL NOT GO FORWARD with their political systems, and ideas, religions,economic systems,also theories of modus-vivend,projects,plans,dreams,in short,they will not go ahead with their usual activities,with their status quo of activities adopted until this current time,the door is already closed for this generations IN TIME and IN SPACE.And this is the Word that will prevail, the peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues will not go forward with their systems at all.
Luke 17:28-29
In the days of Lot;they did eat,they drank,they bought,they sold, they planted, they builded; but it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Get ready
"To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;"
God asks Job, Has the rain a father?(v.28a). The Spirit gives us the answer. "The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; The world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the floods."(Ps.24:1-2). His throne upon the floods means that it is not that you seek it in the lower parts of the heaven but towards the throne of God. The Spirit calls it bottles of heaven. " Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven, God created the earth by His word so fulness thereof consists of clouds the sun, the moon and including even the clay. In v.38 we read,"When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together" is it useless? "When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,/And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing." ( John 9:6-7)
"To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
God sent his word and healed applies to everything on man and grass. "My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass." (De.32:2)
"Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old./Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert./The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen."(Is.43:18-20)
"Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?"
This verse references the sign God gave Gideon.
"By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?"(v.24)
Division of light from darkness touches upon the everlasting covenant.(Ge.1:4) Parting of the light figuratively keeps day and night as separate kingdoms so ravens have day while the lions have the night (vv.39-41) Who feeds them? "(The lions) couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait" and the raven, "when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat? Benevolence of God upholds the celestial bodies by the word of his power; He "set a tabernacle for the sun,/Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race./His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." (Ps.19:4-6). Job would have no inkling how God is able to part the light as he parted the Red sea before the Israelites. God scattering the east wind is with reference to the quails to satisfy their lust for meat. Job would neither have knowledge of the leanness to their soul on account of it."But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, And tempted God in the desert. And he gave them their request; But sent leanness into their soul."(Ps.106:14-15)
"Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;" (v.25) Here the Spirit is referring to the Prophet challenging the prophets of Baal. (1 Ki.18:20-40). Significant is the apparent 'anachronism' of Job would have lived in the Patriarchal ages, and not in the age of kings. Here we have the example of Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever"
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
In the earlier part we saw the everlasting covenant was the people's covenant where the fellowship of God with man gave the saints a volume with spelled the fulness of God where the Word serves as the law. Here we shall see it is Person specific.
"And set bars and doors,/And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"
This is demonstrated in this incident where Jesus stilled the storm. "And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm." (Matt.8:23-27) The story of Jonah is associated with the sea. Jesus refers to his own death and resurrection as a sign. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."(Matt.12:40). Setting bars and windows place the earth as one to which clouds serve a purpose as well.
"The waters are hid as with a stone."(v.30) This stone serves as stopper So when God sends the great flood we have its use. " In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened./ And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."(Ge.7:11-12) The Law or the word of God has already set doors and windows in heaven as well as on earth. Forty days (4x10) refers to this word that went forth from God.
Blessing of man in his Son sets his transience as of no great consequence since his olume is made permanent by his Son.
Blessings always come from the greater to the lesser. So God asks, "Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?/ Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?" (vv.2-29) Within His holiness what is seen is temporal and what is unseen is eternal. (2 Co.4:18) Life as a vapor.
In order to understand the volume of man, Ch. 38 of the Book of Job shall help us. The same division of the two worlds framed by the word of God sets man having a body and spirit within which the Word serves as a seed which as part of the inner man is unseen. By fruits one shall know and it is what works would mean. "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."(Matt.7:17-20)
God challenges Job so we shall examine what are boundaries of our world made to appear as well as what is seen or the fruits thereof. Blessedness of the tree planted by the waters has a volume (Ps.1:3) Our study on Job can help us from wandering off course by keeping focus on the tree planted by God.
"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." These foundations are unseen and as many pillars God has set up for the House that Wisdom built (Pr.9:1) shall be seen. So there is an order in keeping with holiness of God. These foundations are the seven days in the everlasting covenant. The House with seven pillars are intended to last everlasting and as the people's convent and we have this testimony saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God."(Re.21:3). This is marked eternity. Our own makeup where Christ dwells in us by faith consequently must hold a working relationship. St Paul's prayer makes it clear, "That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;/That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,/May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;"(Ep.3:16-20) The indwelling Spirit is grow into the fulness of God. It is how we set our inner man the sign for the word of God working in us.
"Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;/Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it:/But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it." (Nu.14:22-24). This song is not sung according to canon of music and of harp invented by Jabal.(Ge.4:21) This is heavenly music so we are shown martyrs having harps of God. In the Book of Job we have God asking him,'where wast thou "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 38:7)
"And they sung a new song," (Re.5:9)
"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." (Ep.5:19-21) This breaks out in spite of our earthly circumstance because the Spirit within us keep the beat with what goes on in the kingdom of God. This speaks of the volume a man blessed of God has.
"And (Thou) hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth./And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne."(Re.5:11-13)
Blessings we counted in Seven days and these lead us to the Rest where God rested from his labours. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."(Ge.2:3) What is the work of God that we may do? It is to believe in the Son whom he sent. "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."( John 6:29)
This Rest is compared to the House which wisdom built and it has seven pillars (Pr.9:1) As with seven pillars it has seven foundations. God asks, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding." ( Job 38:4) It is called Zion.The Tabernacle of God among men is his holy habitation. "His foundation is in the holy mountains./The Lord loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob./ Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah."(Ps.87:1-3). The everlasting covenant in seven days relate to seven pillars of this tabernacle where heaven earth and below are reconciled in Jesus Christ. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him."(Col.1:16)
Blessing of the seventh day (Ge.2:1-3) is for who enters therein and it is by faith.
87:2. "All the dwellings of Jacob are same as Babylon, Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia and all these are dwelling place for men. But of them God has counted those blessed who are born in Zion. "The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there."(87:6)
Gates of Zion signify salvation. "Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in."(Ps.24:7)
1:1 The heaven and the earth, two worlds framed by the Word which is God. we have been called blessing #1
1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void". We were entered in the book . "and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."(Ps.139:16)
The Spirit of God working on 'the waters' implies 'Darkness as a cloak in which God dwells.' It gave us an understanding'. In Job we read it is compared to a "swaddling band' meaning God possessed our upkeep as though we were infants. The lack of it is mentioned in Ez.16:4 ( Job 38:9)
1:3-5 first day God separated light from darkness and set us for inheritance in light in Christ. This blessing #1 is added to us being part of the kingdom of his dear Son. Blessing is counted as the first day.
1:6-8 Blessing known as the second day: waters above the firmament is called mercy while waters below is called the grace. In his earthly ministry Jesus defined it thus, "My father worketh hitherto, and I work." ( John 5:17; Lam.3:22-23) We were called in the beginning in his Son and are kept by the grace of God.
1:9-13 The worlds framed by the word of God is the kingdom of God where the world made to appear has the dry land and the seas. The Earth abides forever because the world is called the kingdom of his dear Son.(Ec.1:4; Col.1:13). The command number Three applies to the Son. The day Three is a blessing. "And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas." Holy is his name. We are urged to be holy. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"(Ep.1:4)
Trees of righteousness in vv.11-12, "and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself" refer to the word of God which is truth and it sanctifies us. "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."( John 17:17)
"When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddling-band for it,/And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,"
Power and Wisdom is fullness of God and it is the nature of God. Holiness is Person specific. When God says, "Be ye holy, for I am holy" it explains the St Paul quote, " For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell"(Col.1:19) we are battle ready so to speak. Full armour of God has a natural world to back it up. It is thus the sea signifies the saints redeemed from the power of darkness into the kingdom of his dear Son. "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:/Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son."(Col.1:12-13). We have the cloud of witnesses and God so the woman clothed with the Sun gives our state as inheritors with Christ in light. Being confident that God has set bars and doors we walk by faith and not by sight. How we stay the course despite of the wiles of the enemy our middle state ought to assure, the battle is of God and nothing personal. All we need is faith and patience at every turn that God who made heaven and the earth is our fulness.
Science may explain the natural world and say all plants grow by photosynthesis. Millennia of terrestrial living tells that it is true. But recently it has been discovered that "dark oxygen' is being made at 13,000 feet below the ocean surface. God has a way in the depths of which we read " In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."(Ge.7:11-12)the word of God speaks of the fountains of the deep and windows of heaven. Fulness of God sets bars and doors for His children, a secure place in moments of distress and peril.
"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
The preceding verse gives us a context and it is the spirit of the anti-christ which,"and even now already is it in the world." So et us be vigilant. James in his epistle asks, "Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away."(Jas.4:4). So first we shall settle 'what is greater in you." St John speaks, You are of God, and in the pluperfect tense our victory is already complete in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. As promised he has also given us the indwelling Spirit. So what is our volume? "And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven." (Col.1:20) His fulness is our fulness and it how the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters before He decreed the day for his Son. So we are in the kingdom of his dear Son. We are a drop of water even as nations are compared to drop of water in a bucket.
"And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." (Ro.8:10). We are to all intent and purpose in heavenly places and our lives are hid in him. Our fulness comes from God and from his word. God challenges Job with a question, "Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?"( Job 38:8) The sea with doors is like a web,- word wide web, it is to which the Parable of the Dragnet refers." Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:/Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away." It is for a believer to determine if he abodes with Christ or not.
We know Seth is the line that goes all the way to the Messiah Jesus therefore when Seth had Enosh, this line was the only one walking and calling on the name of God. We see Enoch and Noah walked with God but by the time of Noah all had corrupted themselves, whether they had created false gods, we are not told but their imaginations were evil.
I may have a different understanding of the sons of God, we see in Luke 3:38 that Adam was called the son of God because he was a direct creation of God, he had no human father. Jesus is the Son of God and through Jesus, we can become sons and daughters of God, but I have not found where men are called sons of God.
If we take the sons of Seth as sons of God, would we not have to take the daughters of men the daughters of Cain or all the other men who did not call on the name of God? They all are from Adam and Eve would not all the daughters be fair? The flood was 1656 or 2256 years from Adam, and it says when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them. So, this was long before the flood.
We see in the Bible the sons of God are referring to angels as we see in Job 1:6-12 Job 2:1 and Job 38:7. I have not found where men were called sons of God until after the Messiah Jesus and those who believe in Him can become sons of God.
We know there are fallen angels like Satan and others on this earth but there are other angels God has locked in chains of darkness I suppose is the bottomless pit until judgment, 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. My understanding is these are the sons of God who corrupted and polluted God's creation that He destroyed all but eight. We see this happened again after the flood as told in Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also, after that, as we see in Scripture some tall as cedars, Amos 2:9.
God bless,
RLW
Part 1 Trinity discussion
To start; I used to have a similar understanding of the Trinity doctrine but over time it has changed, and I am still studying it. I do not consider myself part of any group or denomination other than a believer and follower of Jesus. I feel we should inspire each other to study in prayer for the truth and to be open to the Holy Spirit to unveil the truth as we know nothing.
With me, it started with two verses, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, I contemplated these verses for a long time, it was like they stuck in my mind unanswered. In my study of the Trinity, I found out how it developed and how many deaths it caused even after the Reformation, and the questions I asked in Churches, many could not explain it and said it is a mystery that man cannot comprehend.
Is God and has He always been one solitary person?
Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD, Mark 12:29 and as said in 1 Cor. 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. My understanding is God the Father is eternal He has always been and will always be Psalms 90:2. God is Spirit, if a person means He has a will, emotions, the ability to speak, rationalize, self-awareness, to have a relationship with His creation, love, hate, etc. yes one person.
Before creation was, He always and only alone, without anyone to love?
What was before creation in Scripture we have no writings or information, Scripture tells us the hosts of heaven were before the creation of the earth and the galaxies, Job 38:4-7. How long before the physical world and universe we see we do not know. God's plan He declared the end from the beginning, Isaiah 46:9-10. I may be wrong, but God has never been alone inside Himself, time nor space cannot contain who He is, the beginning of His plan was Jesus.
See part 2
Revelation 5:12 describes those in heaven praising God but we also see evidence that ALL those on earth will also do the same; even those who are under the earth (possibly the dead souls in hades). I have said before that if the rapture is hidden the RESURRECTION of the dead saints from graves all over the world surely WON'T be able to remain hidden.
There are several themes in scripture that this reminds us of. First the state of all the angels praising God as seen in Job 38:7.
Lucifer fell AFTER this event; how quickly it is unknown but it may have seemed to be a shock to the 2/3 that remained faithful to their state of holiness to see 1/3 fall away with him ( Revelation 12:4 shows the end result). Of course the fall of man brought sudden issues as well. It didn't take long for the first murder to occur with Adam's firstborn son. And we could see shades of the same thing at the tower of Babel shortly after the flood.
What man will crave will be brought about; no doubt by Antichrist's delusion of peace at the first seal ( Rev. 6:1-2). This is going to appear to be a great light of hope (see 2 Cor. 11:14). Shades of the peace and security now will come to the climax with the Daniel 9:27 covenant being CONFIRMED or an original one made stronger (likely what is now known as the Abraham accords).
Whatever illusion of peace that comes will be short lived as the inevitable decay of society will result in the rest of the seal judgments of war; famine and pestilence to kill 1/4 of men (which appears to all occur BEFORE the mark of the Beast).
Those who end up following Antichrist will also worship the dragon (Satan) as seen in Rev. 13:14-18 who gives power to the Beast. They eventually end up fighting God as we see from Psalm 2 and Revelation 19.
Many have argued that out of fear men will be somehow tricked or coerced to take the mark. Revelation 13:8 seems to argue against this as WORSHIP occurs.
If you would allow me once again to intervene.
The book of Job is written mostly in poetic form.
Job 27:1 and Job 29:1 Job is speaking and it has nothing to do with the topic of the clouds or bottles.
Job 38 it is the Lord speaking, Not Job.
Job 38:1-3 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me...
Lee, test what you gather from others with the written scriptures and continue on with a reading program.
Also a concordance and a bible dictionary is a great help.
And pray always.
Here is where I pull out of this discussion
God bless you.
The Bottles of heaven "clouds": it is an allusion to the girbahs, In the Hebrew its nay'-bel its a skin bag for liquids or bottles made of skin, in which they are accustomed to carry their water
God is asking Job does he know how God controls the weather!
It has nothing to do with you and I being a old bag of wine and it doesn't have anything that suggests one day we will be Gods.
I'm telling you this because that is what Jordyn is presenting to you.
Be careful! He has a way of spiritualizing the scripture and making it say what he wants it to say.
We know him well, He's been on this site for many years under several different names presenting this false doctrine.
The clouds in Hebrews is "nephos" it's used to picture a large dense multitude.
The clouds used in Job is "shachaq"
a powder (as beaten small); by analogy a thin vapor; by extension the firmament: - {cloud} small {dust} {heaven} sky. (Strongs definition in the Hebrew.)
The usage has no parallel.
Read Job 38:1-41 and get the context.
Now concerning the wine skins in Matthew 9:14-17.
verse 14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
John was the Last of the old testament prophets.
He came to announce the coming of the King.
Christ came to usher in something New.
Verse 16 and 17 Christ explains the change of dispensations.
The old dispensation of law was ending and Christ didn't come to patch it up, He came to present a new garment.
We being the body of Christ and Christ being the Head represents we being baptized into union with Christ and him being Lord over his body. He's the head and Lord over our lives by the quickening Spirit that rose Christ from the dead.
Romans 8:8-14.
God bless you.
Your getting closer to understanding.
You are right, the old (wine bottle) has passed away, and YOU ARE the NEW (bottles of heaven).
Job 38:37 Who can number the CLOUDS (of heaven) .... Mark 14:62 ..... Hebrews 12:1 ...... IN WISDOM? or who can stay the bottles of heaven.
You DIED with Christ, but only Christ arose, YOU were a JOINT HEIR with Christ in the Kingdom of God, Christ is the kingdom of God.
You DIED, only Christ is alive and YOU are the Body of that LIFE, as Christ is the BODY of the LIFE of his Father.
You said you want to lead a LIFE of OBEDIENCE, You DIED, ONLY Christ exist, he is the LIFE, and you the Body, He CAUSES you to do his WILL, Christ, The Body, walks in total obedience to his Father's Life (Spirit); therefore, if and when you come to TRUTH, you walk in total obedience.
1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN of God (resurrected as ONE FLESH), doth not commit sin; for HIS SEED (Christ) remains IN HIM, and he CANNOT SIN, because he is BORN of God (resurrected as ONE FLESH with Christ).
You obey and honour God when you BELIEVE his words.
God Bless YOU!
"Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in."
Jesus riding into Jerusalem is specific which according to the narrative mode of the Spirit has its spiritual ancillary. In the gospel we read, "And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."(Matt.21:9) Multitudes going before similarly has its multilayered meaning. 'The multitudes point to the prophets as in the epistle to the Hebrews, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,/ Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son,"(He.1:1-2). They 'that followed' by the same token agree with those whom the risen Christ sent "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations," (Matt.28:19)
The city doors were only one part in his circuit to the glory that awaited him. These doors signifying Jerusalem is only associated with the Word become flesh and beyond that to its everlasting shame we have this condemnation," And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."(Re.11:8)
We have another gate through which God sent his Son the King of glory to enter. God out of the whirlwind asks Job,"Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?"( Job 38:17) He is the king of glory because he triumphed over death. "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."(Ac.2:24)
"And this is the gate of heaven," which Jacob saw in his dream,(Ge.28:17) through which Jesus Christ went up. "Why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."(Ac.1:11)
Genesis 1:1 The Hebrew word shamayim meaning heaven, heavens, sky, and lofty, is in the Bible over 400 times and it is masculine plural. The Hebrew word for water is mayim it is also masculine plural, due to ending in im. They are plural nouns but can be dual, as the names of people and places in the Bible end in im. Translating it into English would depend on the context.
Some translations have heavens, and some have heaven but what is Genesis 1:1 saying? Some say this includes all three heavens, some even put a gap between verses 1 and 2, but what beginning is this? The third heaven is where God's throne and the angelic beings are, they were already there. They were before this world and universe as we see in Job 38:4-7 so this is our beginning, not the beginning of all creation.
My understanding is this verse is the introduction to the creation of the things that can be seen that are temporal that one day will all be made new. What I see is God waved His hand and all that is in our universe and our world was created and it all was in darkness and chaos. Nothing was formed or brought forth into order, the light shined into the darkness, light was the first day, the beginning of order that we see take place in the following verses.
God bless,
RLW
"The Living Waters"
The Spirit invests significance in the four cardinal directions, North, South East West which is not merely across but also up and down. Across gives us the outreach of the everlasting gospel but up and down also reveal where the living water shall go up or down. We have the four river heads in the context of the Garden of Eden. "And the fourth river is Euphrates."(Ge.2:14)
In the Book of the Revelation when the sixth angel sounds the trumpet we have this command,"Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates./And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men." (Re.9:14-15). They have been prepared for a specific purpose. It is hour of judgment. For this reason we have this expression 'Foundations' which are invisible to which Hannah alludes in her song of praise. "For the pillars of the earth are theLord's, and he hath set the world upon them." (1 Sa.2:8)
God demands answer from Job, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding./Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?/Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;" ( Job 38:4-6)
Because of this when the red dragon would hurt the left behind church God had prepared already a remedy. "And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood./And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth."(Re.12:15-16)
The living water carry the redeemed to the throne of God while the second group is sent to the hinter sea which is Abaddon."nd they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, -Apollyon (Re.9:11)
Nothing is hid from God's presence, "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known".( Luke 12:2). Face in the parlance of the Spirit is simply a term to define a surface that is open before God, and implies beginning of a process, as in the face of Cain. God asks him, "The LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen?" (Ge.4:6-ESV). His 'countenance' (KJV) or face was open before him.
By the same token the creation account presents, "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters".(Ge.1:2). Its reaction we have in this verse, "The waters saw thee, O God, the waters saw thee; they were afraid: the depths also were troubled" (Ps.77:16).
From the convulsions the deep presented before the Spirit we can infer that the face holds a quality. As God tells Job ' it is turned as the clay to the seal.'( Job 38:14) This explains the manner God framed the worlds by his word. He commanded 'Fiat Lux' and consequently the things, which came to the surface were seen, as hidden depths of Cain's heart were mirrored in his face. The will of God brought the earth as clay to the seal. It is as finished as the will of God shall be complete and wanting nothing more. So we have this certainty, "For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."(Ro.11:29-NKJV)
Face is the presence of God, which St Paul annotates in this verse, "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."(2 Co.4:6) Coming back to the creation account the Spirit of God moving upon the waters gave every water vapor a certain ability to know the glory of God, ( Jas 4:14). Ro.1:19-20. "So we are without excuse."
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have BELIEVED do enter into REST (the sabbath), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall ENTER IN TO MY (the sabbath) REST; although the WORKS were FINISHED from the foundations of the world.
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the GOSPEL preached, as well (as it was preached) TO THEM ......
We are just playing out what has ALREADY been written.
God's will is BEING DONE.
We are JUST POTS being CONFORMED into the IMAGE of Christ. From the first man TIL the last man.
Revelation 22:13 "I AM " Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the FIRST and the LAST.
Romans 8:29 .... he did PREDESTINATE to be CONFORMED to the IMAGE of son.
Job 38:7 When all the morning stars SANG TOGETHER (all became ONE), the SONS of GOD (all became ONE) shouted for joy?
John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou hast GIVEN ME, I HAVE GIVEN THEM (finished from the foundations of the world), that they may be ONE, even as WE ARE ONE.
Psalms 46:10 Be still and know "I AM" God ......
Isaiah 26:3 Thou will KEEP HIM in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee .....
God Bless YOU!
Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth. ( John 9:41).
In the Old Testament we see the mad Prophet Balaam stopped by a donkey who God readily used to block his way and for a mouthpiece of rebuke. ( 2 Peter 2:16-18 as quoted in the N.T. from Numbers 22-24). We see also how the demons Jesus cast out knew who Jesus was ( Mark 3:11-12). This is somewhat understandable from the fact that the angels were there to see God in heaven and witness the creation of the earth ( Job 38:7).
We are warned in James 2:19 about not just saying that we believe in God. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom; this is quoted many times in scripture. The conscience of men can be seared after some time; hearts hardened ( 1 Tim. 4:2; Exodus 7:3 and subsequent verses with Pharaoh). A believer has a healthy awe based on God's Holiness; and without holiness no man can see God ( Heb. 12:14).
Only man could see the miracles of Christ and still remain in unbelief. That would not just be related to the physical miracles when on earth; but also the miracle of salvation which often was accompanied by deliverance in scripture but which we see today. Mercifully God forgives any sin against the Father or Son is forgivable ( Matt. 12:32); but against the Holy Spirit is not.
The Spirit demonstrates His Holiness amongst the ministry of John 16:8 warning the world of sin; righteousness and judgment to come. The opposite of a broken and contrite heart is pride and self righteousness (only the sick need a physician Matt. 9:12).
Therefore such Pharisitical people also make their own twisted judgments on right and wrong and condemn others based on that mindset.
May we read scripture for its true meaning not through any man centered agenda; respecting ALL of it as God's Word ( 2 Tim. 3:16). May we have a heart to always glean new truths from God; seeking His face daily ( Psalm 1:2
Satan Himself was built on pride and self-exaltation therefore was mad enough to desire worship for himself despite being in heaven and seeing God's glory and no doubt the earth and the rest of Creation therefore he was given no chance of repentance ( Job 38:7). We see singing in that verse; something Lucifer as Cheribum was designed to do in charge of worship but it was turned to evil. By default then Satan is the God and loyalty of all who do this to the Spirit; most will sin and admit God is righteous or simply hate God or be afraid (as in the sixth seal); eventually Satan will be sent for those who LOVE not the truth but a lie ( 2 Thess. 2:10). Like it or not Antichrist will eventually blasphemy God and yet all those not in the Book of Life will worship him and be damned ( Rev. 13:8).
You asked: How does Satan deceive this whole world? Rev.12:9
Revelation was written in the first century of Christian Era, at that time the Devil had already deceived mankind for around 4000 years, even JESUS was tempted by the Devil I suppose in Neguev, but Satan still had not 7 heads; The 7 heads was still in the embryo.
But now, in this current time of Apocalypse, around 2000 years AC, the body of the Devil will be completed with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads.His new name now is red Dragon-Rev.12:9-,and his TAIL drew (shall cast down)the third part of the STARS of heaven to the earth.(STARS? who are the STARS? Job 38:4&7 combined with Daniel 12:3).
When the red Dragon-Rev.13:11-gives his POWER,and his Throne in Jerusalem,and great Authority to the Beast of sea, upon which rides de great whore-the Roman Catholic Church-then the holy city will be trodden by the Gentiles- Luke 21:24 combined with Rev.11:2, and he will join Catholicism and Judaism(iron and clay- Daniel 2), then the body of Satan/the Dragon will grow exceedingly, but it will grow even more with the adhesion of evangelical churches whose angels are fallen or spiritually dead, these will form or constitute the TAIL of the Dragon, these will believe in the false messiah, the Beast that will rise from the earth(Israel, the clay, the dry land), a false lamb, a false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined from Revelation 13:11, then the Red Dragon's body will be complete with his 7 heads, 10 horns and a TAIL. By the way, the origin of the false messiah is of the 10 tribs of Israel,especifically of the trib of Dan- Genesis 49:17.
He will exercise all the power of the first Beast before him,will cause the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast(of sea)whose deadly wound was healed.
And he will do great wonders,so that will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and will deceive them that dwell on the earth by the means of...
The old testament hope is the son of righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. Malachi 4:2.
The morning star always rises at the darkest time of the night.
It indicates that the sun will be coming up shortly.
Job 3:9. "Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Here in Job 38:7 it indicates there's several morning stars.
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
Isaiah 14:12 indicates Satan is just one of the many.
I believe Jesus is the Morning star for the Saints, Letting us know there's Light ahead of these dark times.
2Peter 1:19 puts it this way;
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Hopefully someone can add .
God bless.
It is helpful to go back to the Creation story to see God's original plan and design for man; and the results of the fall. In this segment I will look at the enemy of our souls ( 1 Peter 5:8). Lucifer's fall is covered in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. When we see that narrative play out we see where sin actually originated and the cause was mainly pride. That blossomed of course to violence and other things ( Ezekiel 28:16) which I would briefly propose was an angelic society which may have started in heaven and perhaps led to a judgment between Genesis 1:1 and 1;2 sometimes called the "gap theory". For our purposes we will summarize that there had to be some time for the angels to be drawn to follow Lucifer; as well as to some time after all the angels sang to God's glory at creation before he fell ( Job 38:7-9).
Lucifer was much like man; in the sense that he was created to worship and adore the Lord; made flawless and beautiful and in innocence there was nothing wrong about that. He was a Cherub ( Ezekiel 28:14); therefore at an elevated status much like Adam and Eve were given authority to rule and reign over the rest of Creation in a unique role and status.
The serpent was used by the enemy to deceive through appealing to man's hidden knowledge that could somehow elevate his status and bring them something more than God intended as the real thrust of the temptation. A lack of TRUST in God is where the real issue is; and that of the heart of man which Jeremiah 17:9 makes it clear is desperately wicked. Therefore; what God made had the potential to become corrupted and wicked; in the same token one who is saved is made to glorify God and destined to become as Paul stated a "celestial body" ( 1 Corinthians 15:40). There is a resurrection for all men; but one to eternal soul damnation for the wicked ( John 5:29). The wicked cannot enter the Kingdom of God ( Rev. 21:27).
Part 2.
The substance of the material for the furniture of the Tabernacle was different in the Holy Place. In the outer court, brass was the prevailing material since it had to do with the judgment of sin. In the Holy Place, gold was the material that predominated. This was no accident or chance occurrence. Gold was the only object that set forth in such a visible way the deity of Christ. Two objects of furniture, the lampstand and the mercy seat, were made entirely of gold.
The lampstand was the perfect symbol of Christ as the Son of God:
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( John 1:9)
He was a "light of the Gentiles" ( Isaiah 42:6). Had He been philanthropic and had not come out of God, He would have been merely another teacher "that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge" ( Job 38:2). He would have only added another ethical system to the already multitudinous and multifarious systems, and He would have been but the harbinger of darkness "through philosophy and vain deceit" ( Colossians 2:8). But as the Son of God, He "is light, and in him is no darkness at all" ( 1 John 1:5).
The lampstand was handmade of beaten work and was highly ornamented. There was a central shaft with three branches on a side, making seven branches in all. Each branch contained three sections, each section being beaten into the shape of an almond blossom and a knop. On top of each shaft was an open almond blossom. On each of these were placed the olive oil lamps.
See part 3.
When Job had finished asking the same questions you are asking, do you know how the LORD began His answer to Job? "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"
- Job 38:2
And again, "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? He that reproveth God, let him answer it."
- Job 40:2
Do you know what Job realized after the LORD was done? " . . . Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not."
- Job 42:3
To your question, there will be no greater than what the Scriptures have given in the book of Job.
I suggest you read the entire book of Job.