Discuss Job 26

  • Bennymkje - 5 months ago
    Job 41:33-34 "Crooked Serpent"

    "Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear./He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride."

    God refers to him as one who is made without fear. The Leviathan is a creature even as morning stars are. "By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13) God mentions another creature who is qualified as Behemoth "He is the chief of the ways of God."(40:15-19).God mentions these two instances to show what his right hand signifies. His right hand is decked with majesty and excellency; and in his wrath he arrays himself with glory and beauty and it performs wonders, "And behold every one that is proud, and abase him./Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place./Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.:(40:10-13)

    God mentions another creation that is so wanting in wisdom but even so she is compared to 'the fools for Christ's sake." This bird is foolish and in 39:13-16 we read thus: the ostrich "Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust,/ And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them./She is hardened against her young ones, as though they were not her's." Her Christian virtue is in her faith. Jesus asked, Who is my mother or my brethren? "Her labour is in vain without fear," and benevolence of God takes care of her. This trust is what the children of pride lacks.

    We shall compare the stars, the angels of seven churches which are in the right hand of Jesus Christ. (Re.1:20). In Ez.28 and Is.14 we have the Leviathan as Lucifer. He beholdeth all things so what does he say? " I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High./Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." (Is.14:14-15) Profusion of precious stone describe his scales 'which are pride'.(Ez.28:13; Job 41:15)
  • Bennymkje - 6 months ago
    Matt.25:31-46 "Goats and Sheep"

    "As a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats./ And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left."

    This parable is in continuation of the theme of after death and serves as the turnstile from the day of Salvation to the day of Regeneration. Lazarus and the rich man represent same separation as goats from sheep.

    In the Vision of the Woman Clothed with the Sun we have similarly had two groups tagged by Twelve and Ten. Both are set in direct line of vision which can never change since they are thus held by His sovereign Power of Wisdom. "The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God." God's vision keeps the fool who says in his heart in that line as the wise who shall understand. What is the heart but a spiritual seeded with His breath? ( Job 26:13;Ps.33.15; Ps.14:2) He has fashioned hearts of men alike and ability to approach Him is similarly set on a single standard: blood of Jesus. Jesus Christ is the Shepherd and the aforesaid groups are tagged by goats and sheep refer to nations. Let not the terms left and right hold us up. Where they end up is the vital point. In the following verse we are told the group on his right hand are the blessed of 'my Father', "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world." (v.34)

    This blessedness is set forth under seven days in the opening chapter of the Book of Genesis. Let us make man 'in our image and after our likeness' renders every man interchangeable with another. "The rich and poor meet together: the LORD is the maker of them all."(Pr.22:2). But their works set them apart. "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."(Matt.25:40)

    Ps.33:14-15
  • Bennymkje - 6 months ago
    Re.12:3-4 "The Red dragon" (2 of 2)

    Seven heads of the red dragon indicate what this verse signifies, " Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire."(Ps.104:4). God created angels by his breath. " By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13). So the Spirit gives the command number Seven a seat in heaven which is tagged as powers, principalities as St Pauls says, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."(Ep.6:12)

    The tail of the red dragon represents heresies with which one the third of the stars shall be cast off into the earth. "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail./ For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."(Is.9:15-16)
  • Bennymkje - 6 months ago
    Ep.4:5-6 Up and Down" (1 of 2)

    "One Lord, one faith, one baptism,/ One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."

    God is a Spirit,"who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honour and might forever."(1 Tim.6:16). His breath makes man a living soul. By his breath he adorned the heavens. " By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13)

    God gives St John a vision which is a spiritual event and the key is held by the word of God. Let us consider the Woman clothed with the Sun. "A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" (Re.12:1) In the v.4 we also see a red dragon."And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

    This a direct illustration of Ge.1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." The Sun denotes God while the moon under the woman's feet reveals grace which the body, the church can avail of. These stars are witnesses, whom we see in the hand of Christ in the inaugural vision. "The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches."(Re.1:20)

    The woman is in labor. "And the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born" The man child is what the earth represents.Christ the Man and the child part of man child covers all 'the little ones',- the saints waiting to be redeemed from the earth" Now we can understand why the earth was without form and void.

    And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." ( John 1:4) Now regarding the darkness it refers to the seat of the crooked serpent that is impervious to the Spirit's working. They quench the spirit so speak.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    2 Ki.6:16-17 "Cloud of witnesses"

    Prophet Elisha had double portion of Elijah's Spirit which tells Elijah was after the likeness of his Son and as a prophet 'after our image'. So according to the provisions of the covenant the Spirit of Christ equipped him to serve. This double portion serves to explain the cloud of witnesses, which are angels made spirit by the breath of God. "By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13). This has a bearing on the role of the red dragon in the vision of St John. (Re.12:4 a). The angels are witnesses to the soul of man. They testify saints whose faith and works shall not go unrewarded and it was as the double for the Son. "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:/ God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. "(He.11:39-40). They are perfected with their man part and vice versa. One third of the stars shall thus suffer owing to our lapses. Baptism by fire refers to commit wholly De.6:5

    "And, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."

    It tells us that Elisha was also standing by his side; he also see his master in the world of the Spirit. This Elisha surrounded by the chariots of fire only a part. Physical body of his master was another part. His inner eye had take both as one. That is the single measurement St John writes about in Ch.21:17

    "And (the angel) he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. Similarly New heaven and New Earth are one part, The other refers to the nations of Israel and the Gentiles. Is.60 refers to these as one. Without drawing this distinction interpretation of the Bible is as what you see and hear, full of heresies. "(Is.28:13) It is thus doctrine of man has arrived at Christian nationalism and prosperity theology.
  • Bennymkje - 8 months ago
    "Heart of God" Ez.28:1 (1 of 2)

    "Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the LordGod; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:"

    What does the heart signify for a child of God?

    God calls Prophet Ezekiel the son of man, a generic term to indicate the covenant of God with Man. St Paul explains it, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world" and another verse tells us in whom we have been chosen. "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,"(Ep.1:4-5)

    We are chosen in the Man component so each one of us is a son by adoption. Jesus Christ is the firstborn and we are His children in his Son. It is according to the good pleasure of his Will that is one idea we need understand well before we explain the nature of God.

    By His breath he garnished the heavens so we shall interpret the verse, "Who (God) maketh his angels spirits"(104:4) in context of a quote from the Book of Job. "By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent." ( Job 26:13).This crooked serpent refers to the red dragon and also Lucifer which in turns brings us to the King of Tyrus, a man. As Ezekiel is addressed by God King of Tyrus is the son of Perdition, We trace here children by adoption according to the good pleasure of the divine Will. On the other hand the king of Tyrus owe his parentage to Lucifer who resisted the will of his Father. "I will" is his credo while the Son said,"Lo I come to do they will." God is a Spirit. The Son chose to totally align his will to that of the Father. The heart of the Son, obedience, trust faith delineate the holiness of the Son. Ph.2:5-9 explains the mind of Christ or the heart as a spiritual space.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ps.119:169-176 "Tau"

    "For all my ways are before thee"(v. 168b) links to the last section under the last Hebrew letter 'Tau'* which means Truth. This validates 'the word' ('Thy word is truth'- John 17:18) which forms the focus of the entire psalm. "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever."(v.160)

    Here is a penitent psalm where the psalmist confesses that all his ways are before God. "And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account."(He. 4:13). "Sheol is naked before God, and Abaddon has no covering."( Job 26:6-ESV)

    "Let my cry come near before thee, OLord: give me understanding according to thy word./Let my supplication come before thee: deliver me according to thy word./My lips shall utter praise, when thou hast taught me thy statutes."

    "My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness./Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts./I have longed for thy salvation, OLord; and thy law is my delight./Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me."

    The penitent man rests his case: "I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments."(v.176)

    *Note:Tav is the last letter of the Hebrew word emet, which means'truth'. The midrash explains that emet is made up of the first, middle, and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet.
  • Bennymkje - 1 year ago
    Ge.2:7 "Breath of life"

    "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

    The Spirit of God moving upon the face of the waters also garnished the sky. What Job says about it does not contradict the ch.1:2. "By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13).The crooked serpent is of same weight as the tree of knowledge of good and evil, a point which we discussed earlier. God is a Spirit and his kingdom rules over all. (Ps.103:19) When God said Let there be light, the stars did not evolve willy-nilly by some strange series of coincidences but by the word of God. "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth." So what holds the dust, water vapor, the stars and the moon together? Is it not Jesus Christ the word become flesh?



    "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them./And God blessed them." God made man as His steward for the reason of the homogeneity that the word could create out of the two worlds. They are framed by the word of God and faith is what holds man and his world. Jesus Christ as the firstborn of His creation,

    We shall see from what proceeds in the rest of this chapter that whatever knowable of God and his kingdom was imparted to Adam. Why would God do that? Jesus explains, "That where I am, there ye may be also".( John 14:3b)

    The Spirit presents the man in full possession of his faculties so he did not need any other to teach him of good and evil. He was the son of God. ( Luke 3:38)
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Verleen.

    I would like to add to what Gigi and Richard has shared with the focus on your last question.

    "how can one know that God exists if no one has seen him?"

    First I would like to draw your attention to Psalms 19:1-4. Carefully read it.

    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    ( EVERY PERSON CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO KNOW THAT GOD EXIST AND THAT HE HAS PLACED US HERE).

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    ( MAN, WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF THE SCRIPTURE IS ACCOUNTABLE TO KNOW THERE'S GOD BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE AND FUNCTION.)

    AGAIN Verse 19. Because that which may be known of God is MANIFEST IN THEM; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    CREATION IS DESIGNED!!

    Job 38:8-11.

    Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

    When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

    And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

    And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

    GOD CONTROLS THE FLOODS AND THE WAVES, HE DRAWS A LINE AND CALLS THEM BACK.

    More verses;

    Job 12:7-10.

    Job 26:7-8.

    This evil world we live in denies the glory of God with its evolution theory and says it all came together by accident.

    Hopefully others will share.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Isaiah 45 - 2 years ago
    made; Isa. 45:18 = When translated from the Hebrew verb root "asah" (transliterated' "aw-SAW"), the term "made" describes the sequence of GOD first "creating" something out of nothing, and then shaping and fashioning "formed") that "creation" into its beautiful and useful existence. Finally, HE arranges, places, and securely fixes ("established") HIS Creation for HIS and man's availability and use.

    Compare GOD's subsequent actions immediately after HE "created the heaven and the earth" ( Gen. 1:1). Note that "the earth was without form and void" ( Gen. 1:2). GOD's creative finishing touches of "forming" and "establishing" that which HE previously "created" occurs throughout the following verses (vv. 1:2b - 2:3).

    Understand, the act of GOD's "forming" and "establishing" HIS Creation required DIVINE miraculous Words and Will that only JEHOVAH GOD possesses, and that JEHOVAH GOD solely could accomplish.

    established; Isa. 45:18 = When translated from the Hebrew root verb "kuwn" (transliterated "koon"), the term "established" describes GOD setting HIS Creation and HIS fashioning of it into its permanent place and operation.

    Consider GOD's "establishment" of the sun which HE created in the heavens ( Ps. 19:4):

    "In them hath HE set a tabernacle for the sun."

    In addition, consider GOD's "establishment" of the earth ( Job 26:7):

    "HE stretcheth out the north {the vast expanse of the northern heavens} over the empty place {nothing exists for support}, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Some teach that based on interpretation of; Isaiah 42:7, 1Peter 3:18-19, Ecclesiastes 4:14-16, Psalms 142:7, Isaiah 53:7-12, Revelation 1:17-18, Matthew 12:38-45, Luke 11:29-32, Ephesians 4:8-10, Psalms 86:13, Acts 2:27,31, Psalms 16:10, but none of these are clearly stated nor defined so. Jonah 2:2,

    Luke 16:22-31,

    I guess my question is why?

    Jesus has all authority: Luke 12:5, Luke 9:1, Mark 1:27, 1Corinthians 15:24, Matthew 28:18, Job 26:6, Psalms 139, Revelation 1:18,

    Revelation 20, 2Peter 2:4,

    Let's not divide over these issues, James 3:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    These verses by David show God's design before birth (verse 5-6) as well as in the future whether in heaven or hell (verse 8). There are some who would read the verses in Jonah and indicate that indeed he was dead under the earth (with his body remaining in the whale but his soul in sheol) in Jonah 2:6. The passages referring to the lowest hell being underneath the mountains also exist in Deut. 32:22.

    Whatever the actual case in Jonah; for God's CHOSEN people He is certainly with them and cannot escape His presence. What is different; of course with believers and those NOT written in the Book of Life is that any grace is withdrawn; all are naked in Sheol for the wicked ( Job 26:6). For now; captivity has been taken captive; and there is no compartment anymore for the righteous in hell; for to be "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." ( 2 Cor. 5:8); see also Eph. 4:8; Psalm 68:18. Verses 15-18 continue to describe God's foreknowledge and unlimited wisdom. Immediately after this; there is an impreccatory section in v. 19-22; followed by David's plea to discipline or chastise Him at the end of the Psalm to remove any wickedness; which He does to prune all of His saints. ( Hebrews 12:6; Rev. 3:19).

    In order to have such an attitude of perfect love and perfect HATRED; we need to have His perfect righteousness. Therefore; we learn to love what He loves (which is against the flesh and it's desires); and hate what He hates as the Spirit and His Word reveal to us. It is not sinners themselves but sin in general as well as the god of this world that are our enemies. This will come when Isaiah 24:21 is fulfilled. David had his faults; but He spent much time meditating and praising the Lord and was himself a humble man from the start. When he did sin; he would acknowledge it without resistance when confronted with it. Without Nathan the prophet and God's chastisement with the census who knows how much more debased David could have become
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Job 26 - 2 years ago
    I meant that he wasn't around long after the FLOOD event. Sorry for the wording...
  • Marke - In Reply on Job 26 - 2 years ago
    I like your commentary on Job but I am puzzled why you said Job did not likely live long after his trial was over. This is from Job 42:

    12 So the Lord blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

    13 He had also seven sons and three daughters.

    14 And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.

    15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.

    16 After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.

    17 So Job died, being old and full of days.
  • Richard H Priday on Job 26 - 2 years ago
    This chapter once again demonstrates knowledge of the afterlife that already was revealed by God. We see in verse 5 and 6 that there are spirit forms under the sea; and hell is naked. This brings to reminder the resurrection of the wicked in Rev. 22. Verse 7 likely is talking about an empty stretch of sky in the north where mysteriously; there are few galaxies or stars visible. It would seem that heaven is somewhere beyond that region. The fact that earth s "hanging on nothing" in that same verse would tie in with the orbital pass through the solar system in a vacuum.

    Moving on to verse 8; the basic hydrologic cycle with clouds filled with immense amounts of water vapor are shown not to burst; which reinforces God's promises in Genesis never to flood the earth again worldwide. Keep in mind Job was likely a book by a character around not too long after this event.

    Verse 9 reminds us somewhat of later representations of the heavenly throne. Verse 10 shows how the earth and sea for now are separated; but as Rev 22 also indicates; there will be no more sea after the Millennium and when the earth and its works are burned up; as described in 2 Peter 3:10. Verse 10 also may show how; for instance there is a distinct boundary between oceans; such as is with the Atlantic and Pacific.

    Verse 11 is a bit vague; perhaps related to Seal Judgments? Verse 12 could refer to the Exodus event. Verse 13 may be representative of a snake in general or Satan himself; in the end all things are created beings but the Triune God Himself.
  • ABADDON and APOLLYON__Revelation 9 - In Reply on Revelation 9 - 2 years ago
    Abaddon

    In the Book of Revelation ( 9:1-11 ), when John sees his vision of the fifth trumpet blowing, a vast horde of demonic horsemen is seen arising from the newly opened abyss. They are sent forth to torment the unfortunate inhabitants of earth, but not to kill them. They have a ruler over them, called a king (basileia [basileiva]), the angel of the abyss, whose name is given in both Hebrew and Greek. In Hebrew it is Abaddon and in Greek Apollyon, both words meaning Destroyer or Destruction.

    The word only occurs once in the New Testament ( Rev 9:11 ) and five times in the Old Testament ( Job 26:6 ; 28:22 ; 31:12 ; Psalm 88:11 ; Prov 15:11 ). In Psalm 88:11 Destruction is parallel to the grave; in Job 26:6 and Proverbs 26:6 it is parallel to Sheol; in Job 28:22 it is parallel to Death. job 31:12 says sin is a fire that burns to destruction. So in the Old Testament Abaddon means the place of utter ruin, death, desolation, or destruction.

    The angel of the abyss is called Destruction or Destroyer because his task is to oversee the devastation of the inhabitants of the earth, although it is curious that his minions are allowed only to torture and not to kill. His identity is a matter of dispute. Some make him Satan himself, while others take him to be only one of Satan's many evil subordinates.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I 1st thought of the scripture Adam & Spencer Shaw gave you. Then I prayed I might understand what you're looking for.

    Hebrews 10:26-39

    I searched under wisdom & found these. Hopefully these are helpful in what you're looking for: I added a few additional.

    Matthew 12:41-42, Luke 11:31-32, Luke 11:52, Ecclesiastes 10:1, James 3:13-18,

    Ecclesiastes 1:18, Proverbs 17:16,

    Job 11:6-7, Job 26:1-4, Job 28:28,

    Psalms 37:27-31, Psalms 111:10, Proverbs 10,

    Most verses on wisdom are how good & pleasant it is: Proverbs 19:8, Proverbs 23:4, Ecclesiastes 7:12,
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply on Job 26 - 3 years ago
    in Israel
  • Jim - In Reply on Job 26 - 3 years ago
    Robert

    Jesus would have been in Nazareth in his parents home learning the trade of his father who was a carpenter. Mar 6:3
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Job 26 - 3 years ago
    Robert Hello sir take a look at luke 4:16 is what I read also mathew 13:54-58 tells you what they thought

    about Jesus Christ and the family.
  • Robert Thompson on Job 26 - 3 years ago
    Where was Jesus between 12 years old hand 33 years old.
  • Earl Bowman - 3 years ago
    WHO Is SATAN

    Genesis 3:1 Now the SERPENT (Satan) was more subtil than any BEAST of the Field which the Lord God Had made...

    God made ALL THE BEAST of the field out of DUST, The BEAST are all made FLESH.

    1 Corinthians 15:39 Not all flesh is the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of man, another of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

    Which of these creations of FLESH is the MOST SUBTIL, Of course it's MAN.

    Job 26:13 By his Spirit he hath garnished the heavens; His (Spirits) hand hath formed he crooked (liar and murderer, from the beginning) serpent (subtil beast).

    1 John 2:16 ..The lust of the FLESH, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life..

    Which of these creations of FLESH have the capabilities to have the pride of life, lust of the FLESH, and the lust of the eyes, of course it's MAN.

    James 2:19 thou (terrestrial FLESH) believest there is one one God, thou doest well, the devils (Satan, terrestrial FLESH) also BELIEVE, and tremble.

    Revelation 13 :8 Here is wisdom let him that hath UNDERSTANDING count the number of the BEAST (FLESH): for his number is the number of a MAN..

    Who is the ONLY beast of the field that is subtil, can lust, can BELIEVE and can buy and sell. Why of course, it's MAN, THE PRINCE(S) OF THIS WORLD.

    You BELIEVE, long before you are BORN AGAIN. Terrestrial FLESH, the carnal mind, has to BE DESTROYED (it's the process of light replacing darkness).

    1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one (terrestrial flesh) to Satan (terrestrial flesh) for the DESTRUCTION of the Flesh, that the Spirit might be SAVED in the day of the Lord.

    Isaiah 9:20 ..they shall every man EAT THE FLESH OF HIS OWN RIGHT ARM.

    Zechariah 14:12 ..their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet..

    Revelation 19:18 That you may eat the flesh of kings, and he flesh of captains, and the flesh of might men..

    Romans 13:11 ..now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

    WORK OUT YOU OWN SALVATION

    PHYSICIAN HEAL THYSELF
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 25:33

    Daniel 9:24-27

    Daniel 12

    Job 26:10

    Matthew 10:20-23

    Matthew 24:11-14

    1 Corinthians 1:8-9

    Revelation 2:25-27

    1 Peter 4:7

    1 Peter 1 whole chapter relevant

    Ephesians 3:19-21

    Hebrews 3:12-15

    Luke 21:8-10

    There are many more, I hope these help
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother S Spencer, may CHRIST IN US, grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

    Job 26:13 By His SPIRIT he hath garnished the heavens, His hand hath FORMED the crooked serpent.

    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God FORMED man of the dust of the ground....

    Both the crooked serpent and man were FORMED, not created. You are not created in God's image until you are BORN AGAIN by SPIRIT. Before that you are in Satan's image (dust, flesh).

    Psalms 104:39 Thou sendest forth thy spirit and they are created: and thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.

    You said: He is described AS IF (future tense)

    I BELIEVE you are right.

    I BELIEVE this is a PROPHESY of what we have been CREATED for; but until we depart this flesh iniquity is still found in us.

    Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother S Spencer, in your studies, would you please, find the Hebrew word that has been translated to the word Lucifer and see how it is defined in other scriptures. Man's belief that Lucifer was perfect contradicts other scriptures. If this is the only place that word is translated Lucifer? If it has another meaning, then maybe Lucifer was not perfect.

    Job 26:13 By his SPIRIT he hath garnished the heavens, his hand hath FORMED (MADE) the crooked serpent.

    Isaiah 27:1 In that day (TODAY) the LORD with sore and great and strong sword (THE WORD) shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and shall SLAY (kill by the word of God) the dragon that is in the sea (the sea represents us, Revelation 17:15). (We die daily by the word of God).

    1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil (flesh); for the devil (flesh) committeth sin from the BEGINNING (not perfect and fell). For this purpose the Son of God was manifest, that he (SPIRIT) might destroy the works of the devil (FLESH).

    From the (BEGINNING); Adam and all of us were FORMED (MADE) FLESH out of dust.

    1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect (mature): yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the PRINCES OF THIS WORLD, that come to nought:

    Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world (flesh), according to the PRINCE of the Power of the Air (flesh), the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience (flesh).

    Mark 8:33 ....he rebuked Peter, saying, get thee behind me, Satan....

    Peter was (flesh) not yet BORN AGAIN of the SPIRIT.

    Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil (flesh).

    Jesus was already BORN OF SPIRIT so the devil (flesh) had no power over him.

    1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that which was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural (flesh); and afterwards that which is spiritual.

    Food for thought; the Spirit reveals.
  • OSEAS - 3 years ago
    TO ALL

    Gen.1:2-This Scriptures were revealed to Moses around 2.500 years after Adam, beteween 2nd and 3rd Day.

    Genesis 1:v.2 And the earth was without form,...

    See, GOD was not speaking of the geometric form of the Planet Earth to Moses, which He "hangeth upon nothing"- Job 26:v.7-, no, absolutely, it because the geometric form of the Planet Earth around 6.000 years ago was the same it is today, of course. NOTE: To say the Planet Earth was without geometric form based in Genesis 1:v. 2 is ridiculous.

    By the way, GOD had planted a wonderful Garden in Eden were a multitude was ruled by a powerful Cherub- Ezekiel 28:v.13-15 and Isaiah 14:v.12-12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!...

    After the rebellion, the inhabitants of Eden, ruler by the fallen Cherub, were transformed into dust, dust of the earth, except the spirit, evidently ( Jude 1:v.6), and the earth did get consequently formless and empty, spiritually, everything was without form but not physically.

    Please, re-study your LITERAL conceptions, many of them ridiculous, and cause a lot of mochery. The letter kills.

    To the only Wise GOD our Saviour, be Glory and Majesty, Dominion and Power, both now and ever. Amen.





    and void;

    and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

    And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night.

    And the evening and the morning were the first day.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ginny, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    It's better to to know what GOD SAYS than to say things that OPPOSE God's word.

    You says Satan created evil, this OPPOSES:

    Isaiah 45:7 I (GOD) form the light, and CREATE darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS.

    You say God gives us the choice to choose good are evil, this OPPOSES:

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both to will and do of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

    You say Satan was the highest angel in heaven and rebelled, this OPPOSES:

    Job 26:13 By his Spirit he garnished the heavens, his hand hath formed the CROOKED SERPENT.

    John 8:44 ...He (Satan) was a murder from THE BEGINNING (not perfect and fell), and abode not in the TRUTH ....
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3:36 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for your reply Dianne. I was thinking that was the verse you were pertaining to. As Isaiah 40:22 and Job 26:10 use the same Hebrew word spoken "chuwg". Interesting it has two different Strongs numbers although the same exact word. Meaning to encircle or circle.

    As I really don't want to get into this much as I know my brothers and sisters on here may not agree with me and I do not wish to raise quarrel. Although I will just state this. In Isaiah 22:18 he states "ball". The Hebrew word pronounced "duwr". Meaning ball/circle. Which I would think would pertain more to a sphere shape than "chuwg". Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a ball and so did the writers of the KJV Bible.

    Again, as I could go on I will not because the shape of the earth is not the important thing. Jesus Christ our Lord is. Even though it may help people turn toward God I do not want to make division here between my brothers and sisters in Christ.

    God Bless.
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 3:36 - 3 years ago
    Richard Isaiah 40:22, job 26:10 the Hebrew word compassed meaning circle,
  • Jim E Scott - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 4 years ago
    In the Bible, we see God as a trinity because it mentions that God, Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit each did these things below:

    Each is ETERNAL ( Rom 16.26, Re 22:13, Heb 9:14)

    HOLY (Re 4:8, 15:4, Ac 3:14, 1 John 2:20)

    OMNIPRESENT ( Jer 23:24, Eph 1:23, Ps 139:7)

    OMNIPOTENT( Ge 17:1, Rev 1:8, Ro 15:19, Jer 32:17, Heb 1:3, Lu 1:35)

    ONMISCIENT (Ac 15:18, Joh 21:17, 1 Cor 2:10,11)

    CREATOR ( Gen 1:1, Col 1:16, Job 33:4, Ps 148:5, John 1:3, Job 26:13)

    SANCTIFIER ( Jude 1:1, Heb 2:11, 1 Pe 1:2)

    RESURRECTED CHRIST ( 1 Co 6:14, Joh 2:19, 1 Pe 3:8)

    Hope that helps.


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