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  • Alisa - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 5:17 - 2 years ago
    Dear Dianne, may the peace and comfort of our Lord Jesus Christ be upon you. May the Lord hear every prayer and supplication being lifted for you. I agree with Gigi and Donna's prayers for you.

    Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

    But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

    Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. ( Matthew 10:29-31)

    I'm so sorry to hear what you are currently going through, but I pray you will learn all you need to during this time. I believe the Lord has us go through trials to test our faith, and test our love for our enemies/those who despitefully use us. Even when the Lord feels far, He is right there with you. Stay even more faithful now than ever, and God will see you through, no matter what His perfect will and timing is.

    If, for some reason it is God's will for your trial to be very difficult, please also consider Job and his powerful testimony as encouragement to stay faithful and humble during your trail.

    Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,

    And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.

    In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly. ( Job 1:20-22)

    So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: ( Job 42:12a)

    You are not alone. I've made a note of your request in my prayer journal and will continue in prayer for you.

    There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. ( 1 Corinthians 10:13)

    Pray always that ye enter not into temptation.

    To God be the glory. Blessed be the name of our Lord.
  • HOW SATAN GETS AROUND - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The Bible is the inspired Word of God. It bears His Name.

    Secular books bear their authors names.

    Satan roams about wherever he wants to.

    JOB 1:

    6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

    7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

    However___ Jesus imparted His Authority and the Power in His Name, INTO HIS BELIEVERS. TO bind Satan and cast Him out of our lives, bodies, families, etc. He has to leave. Satan is not a human; and earth was created for humans. On the Cross, Jesus shed his Blood over his followers and the Earth. It ran down the Cross into soil of creation, and was redeemed.

    That was why "a body Thou has provided". Jesus is the Son of Man; and the Son of God. He TOOK BACK the authority Satan had stole from Adam.

    Jesus restored that Authority to His born again, Spirit-filled Believers. Male and Female.

    So if your faith in Jesus is strong, you can send satan and his devils off world, to the deep parts of the earth. Be watchful because Satan goes about as a roaring Lion. Don't become complacent.

    This is why I tell Christians to go sit in the car and pray these strong prayers so people in the home aren't frightened.

    Remember__when you bind the devils, you are also to LOOSE also. Release Heavens blessings, ask for angelic assistance with your teenagers. ASK FOR WHAT YOU NEED. If the Bible is too mysterious, then ASK for the Holy Spirit to teach you the meanings (like Ephesians 6). That's why Jesus gave Him to us. Google His ministry to the saints; for quick study. Underline those verses in your Bible.

    When you are sure that this works, teach it to someone else. That's also what disciples do.

    Read some David Wilkerson books; or there's videos on YouTube. Try to hear Jesus's heart.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    SONS OF GOD.

    This is a term used as a direct creation of God.

    There is only 3 in scripture that was created that bares this title

    1) Angels.

    Genesis 6:2.

    Job 1:6.

    2) Adam.

    Luke 3:38.

    We're not a "direct" creation. We're sons of Adam until Born again.

    3) Those in Christ.

    John 1:12.

    We are a NEW creation in Christ.

    That's why it's called a new birth. "Born again" properly translated, "Born from above."

    With Adam being the first Man/Adam created, And then sinned, sin passed on to ALL Men, "Only if ALL Men came after Adam. The ONLY way redemption is available to ALL.

    Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12.

    To redeem, is to buy back!

    When the Law came everyone in Adam spiritually died.

    I believe physical death came by Adams transgression, spiritual death came by the giving of the law.

    But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. Romans 5:15.

    And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

    The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

    As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

    And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49.

    If there were people created before Adam how can they be bought back when Adam transgression has no effect on them being they were never "In" Adam.

    Note: Acts 17:26.

    Genesis 5:1-2. connects Genesis 1:26-28.

    and Genesis 2:7. and also cover the use of the name Adam used for both Adam and Eve.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - 2 years ago
    Take heed that no man deceive you.

    The deception has been laid, what will we be spared? There is a difference between God's wrath, org meaning; anger, wrath, passion; punishment, vengeance. and tribulation thlipsis meaning; persecution, affliction, distress. The beast will be given time to inflict tribulation on the saints in the world and overcome them, Revelation 13:5-7, as God gave Satan, Job 1:12 Job 2:6. Satan's last shot, because he knows his time is short, Revelation 12:12.

    The adversary, with this deception, has manipulated scripture to have many believing the great tribulation and the wrath of God to be the same thing and will be spared going through it. This started developing in the 1700s, and what a deception, a beautiful picture of glorious colors of truth, masterfully painted on a canvas of lies. How many will be deceived by the miracles that will be done by the false prophet, Revelation 13:13-15, and fall away? Or those facing death, and who are overcome by the fear of death, take the mark.

    A similar picture of what is to come has happened in the past. Decius/Decian persecution in 250 AD, a decree that Christians had to prove their loyalty to paganism and the emperor, ordered that sacrifices to idols be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate. It was a signed and witnessed certificate issued. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the emperor.

    A great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies thinking they could still be a Christian in secret. Others went into hiding. The Decian persecution was the severest on Christians at that time and the loss suffered by the apostasy (falling away). What is coming will be more severe and worldwide.

    Did God spare them? If not, should we be? Have we exalted ourselves more worthy? Are you ready, praying that our faith shall not fail, even if facing death?

    God bless,

    RLW
  • LisaLou - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    So do I...
  • Kingsley dominic on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    I love jesus
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

    Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

    Luke 3:38,

    * Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

    I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

    Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

    Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,
  • Gigi - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    I would present that the Don's of God in Job 1 are angelic beings, perhaps archangels, who answer to God concerning their activities.
  • Donald Wayne Spurgeon on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    In Job Chapter 1 verse 6 who are the sons of God and why did they present themselves along with Satan?
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Bro Man shall not love by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Bill,

    In Job 23:12, it says "Neither have I gone back from the commandment of His lips, I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food."



    What really is necessary, Spiritual food, or physical food? We eat three times a day or more, plus dessert. How often do we eat spiritually and feed the soul? Very interesting!

    In John 4:32, after the disciples brought physical food to Jesus, they said to Him, "Master, eat." Jesus answers and says, " I have meat to eat that ye know not of.



    I don't know if you have ever experienced this before, where you are physically hungry, you are physically tired, but then in some way, shape, or form, God ministers through you to someone else, or from someone else to you, and whatever physical hunger you have or physical thirst you have, it doesn't make any difference! You forget about the physical hunger and you are no longer hungry.



    The spiritual food is contentment in and of itself. You are not as hungry as you used to be or as starved as you used to be. Now what is interesting here is that remember the woman left her water pot behind.



    Jesus said you just brought physical food from the city, but I have food to eat that you know not of. He ministered God's word to this woman.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Bill Meadows Job 1 Take a look at Jeremiah 15:16 talk about healthy appetites!
  • Bill Meadows on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Did Job say that his spiritual food was more important than his natural food?
  • Pete Herrera - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I am 63 now, never married, and had a girl friend for 1 month total in my lifetime. My mom disowned me two times in my lifetime and kicked me out of her house when she realized that she no longer needed me. And through it all, it has been my faith, my love, my trust and my personal relationship with Jesus that has sustained me all of these years. The Lord has said. never will I leave you and never will I forget you and He has said. My grace is sufficient for thee. And it is written. Draw closer to God in prayer and in the study of God's word and the devil will flee. it is Satan who uses the footholds that we given him against us. It is Satan who temps, teases and mocks us. Draw closer to God in prayer and in the study of God's word and the devil will flee. It is God who will sustain you as he has me if you give him a chance and trust in Him alone. never cease praying and the prayers of a righteous man avalieth much. God has also said never will I leave you and never will I forget you. And satan cannot snatch us from my Fathers hand. And submit all of your prayer requests unto the Lord. Remember Jesus has already gotten the victory or death, Satan and Satan knows that. which got me to thinking about what happened to Job. Job 1:1-22. Job did not blame God because it was Satan, not God who did all of these terrible things to him and His family. My Prayer is that you realize that you are not alone in your suffering and pain and that we all are assailed by evils and that no matter what happens in life you are Love by God, me, and others. Sincerely Yours, Pete Herrera
  • Rick - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Neil Job 1 Both he had respect for God and reveranced [some times translated fear] him never blaming God for his problems and in Job 3:25 like all of us on occasion the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me and that which I

    was afraid of is come unto me. So both
  • Neil MacEwan on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Was Job a fearful man?.evidence?
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Genesis 6 - 3 years ago
    Hey Tony,

    If I may, what people call demons are devils, unclean spirits, principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places, some spirits with no physical bodies, some angels that have bodies that cannot possess humans but can control. Evil spirits are on this earth that can influence and also possess humans.

    We see while Jesus was here the first time, He cast them out of many people, also he gave power for the disciples to do the same Matthew 10:1. We also see Paul doing the same, one in Acts 16:18. They are still on this earth, many do not believe they're real but believe me they are real.

    The bible is not clear how or why these beings are on the earth. There are writings outside of the bible that talk about these but how true are they. The sons of God you speak of are angels, not unembodied spirits. Job 1:6 Job 2:1 and Job 38:7. We know some angels left their first estate and sinned that are locked in chains of darkness until judgment. 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6.

    These angels are not the devils or spirits that are roaming this earth, they are locked in the bottomless pit. We see they have a king in Revelation 9 whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Strange is his name has the same meaning as the son of perdition, that means destruction/destroyer.

    Through scripture, it says angels can take on human form, they ate and drank and even wrestled with Jacob. We are even warned when entertaining strangers they may be an angel. The sons of God you speak of in Genesis are those angels who left their first estate and mated with human women that produced the giants (Nephilim and Rephaim or Rephaites) The name of these people means "terrible ones", they were before the flood and after Genesis 6:4 tells us they were then and after the flood and when the sons of God mated with women it produced giants.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Anything that is not like God__is harmful - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Beloved child,

    When this happens to me, I know the Shepherd is calling me to Psalm 23.

    It's important to remember Job 1: satan sneaks around to find what we fear, or if we have all our armor on? There is now no condemnation.

    Time to go to the pasture. You might just sit outside and look at the clouds in the sky like me, and whisper "even so, Come Lord Jesus.

    Lord Jesus bless me with a fresh anointing as written in Luke 4:18.

    I went to this church in Tulsa for 3 years and was sent home to care for my Dad until he died. Me and friend sat behind Carman every Sunday. :D

    The Pastor in that video became Apostate. I was heartbroken. A year ago, Carman died. I refuse to stop praying for Carlton Pearson. The Holy Spirit showed me how it happened. I've never spoken of it.

    Rest a little. Watch some Carman songs on youtube: I got the joy (pick the one showing the choir). Church was fun and I learned lots! Watch "resurrection rap" and some of his hymn songs.

    M
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Ezekiel 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello James Carlson, that's powerful. People suffer much from lies & much from believing lies. Your comment, speaks deeper into devastating "news" heard, effects from it. With wisdom you were shown this, insightful. I think it was a revelation to you personally & others that have been devastated by lies. The toll it can take on a person. However I agree with Chris, I think I would go further to say I think many loving parents would immediately run to their children to make sure the news was correct, to care for them even in death, cover them & give a proper burial, ect. Job was beyond average as a Parent in that: Job 1:5. He was very concerned for them to be right with GOD, that he would make sacrifice on their behalf. Like Earl, Gi Gi, mentioned, pointing to GOD's bigger picture of GOD's atonement for us through Jesus. That's probably why Job is sometimes called prophetic book. Interesting I hadn't seen that beforehand. Gi Gi, & Sacha have the most perfect point that it is most significant whoes report we believe, in that GOD says nothing shall harm you by any means. Luke 10:19. Knowing all things will work together for good._.._ Romans 8:28-29, Even in disaster & disastrous moments when we believe GOD, HIS WORD, HIS report we will be much better off in every way. Hebrews 12:26-29, we should not be as; Luke 21:26

    Didn't read all comments, hopefully this is encouraging. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts & intellectual insight.
  • David - In Reply on Ezekiel 2 - 3 years ago
    James What I gather or understand from Job is an example of the goodness of God and steal kill and destroy satan's only purpose also God wasn't being tried or tempted [ James 1:13 God can't be tempted neither tempt he any man ].

    The word says in Job 3:25 for the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me and that which I was afraid of is come unto me. In job 1:4+5 jobs children were feasting with each other all the time and job believed they were doing wrong to he point they were cursing God in their harts thus did jobcontinuously. His fear was so great from constantly believing that His children were doing wrong that it opened the door for the adversary to move. Fear is the exact opposite of believing because it putsus in a state of mental paralyses.
  • Philip Christian Parks on Numbers 21 - 3 years ago
    Re. Numbers 21:6 = And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

    Of great interest, even though the term "fiery" reads like an adjective in the English, it actually translates from the Hebrew noun saraph (Eng. transliteration; pronounced "saw-RAWF").

    The same Hebrew word translated here into "fiery" also translates into the word "seraphims" twice in Isaiah (note: the modern proper spelling of this plural noun is "seraphim").

    In Isaiah, the term "seraphim" identifies a certain class of angelic entities of whom Prophet Isaiah witnessed as recorded in Isaiah Chapter Six. Other than having "six wings " ( Isa. 6:2), Isaiah provided no additional information regarding their personal appearance.

    If Isaiah witnessed the holy seraphim honoring and praising JEHOVAH GOD, Bible students must also conclude a certain number of seraphim followed Satan in his rebellion and fall.

    The very Hebrew word "saraph" literally means "the burning ones". If these angelic seraphim have a visual appearance of fire (cp. 2Ki. 6:17), then these "fiery serpents" may have been demonic in nature. It is not considered a stretch to wonder if GOD gave seraph demons permission to punitively torment the Israelites much like HE gave Satan permission to test Job ( Job 1:12; 2:6).

    If this scenario were true, then the term "fiery" may describe their visual nature and appearance rather than the painful intensity of their bite.

    Since GOD's Word contains no coincidences, and HIS Word communicates HIS earthly and Heavenly Designs, Purposes, and Will, then Bible students, expounders, hermeneutics, and commentarians simply cannot overlook and ignore the terminology of the word "fiery" in this context. It certainly demands deep examination and exploration while avoiding being overly dogmatic.

    The bite of these "fiery serpents" typifies "the fiery darts of the wicked" ( Eph. 6:16).
  • Victoria Tatem on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    I love reading and studying my bible official king james online. acknowledege,wisdom& understanding. god bless you always
  • Diane Taylor - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Amen to that brother! From one grace believer to another, there is no other way to understand Gods word unless we realize that we as the body of Christ are in the " but now " the dispensation of the grace of God and that Paul is our apostle. Love you! See you in glory!
  • Jesus is returning Soon - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    No. Everyone must be saved through Jesus Christ. Read this slowly ok?

    JOHN 3

    5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    15

    That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    16

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    17

    For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    18

    He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    On the red link page where you came in the website: is a link BECOME A CHRISTIAN. You can pray to God and He will hear you. Your name will be recorded in the Book of Life.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi David,

    If I may, I have heard other people say what you are saying and they feel there was a gap between Gen. 1:1 and Gen.1:2, if I understand correctly what you are saying, forgive me if I am wrong. If we use Revelation 12 for this event we have to say Satan does not have access to heaven to accuse us day and night. We see in Job 1:6 and Job 2:1 Satan has access to heaven and God, also he is the great accuser he accuses us before God day and night.

    In Revelation 12:8 when he is cast down to earth there will be no place found any more in heaven. This will be permanent, they are rejoicing in heaven and we are warned of how bad this will be on earth, Revelation 12:12. In the Greek text, at the end of Revelation 12, Satan is the one standing on the sand when the beast in Revelation 13 rises out of the sea (bottomless pit)

    I also believe people were before Adam and Eve, but another understanding. I believe the six days of creation were exactly the way it is written. Six 24 hour days and God said it was good at the end of each day, without any gaps, no evolution, and then the seventh day God rested from his work and blessed the seventh day.

    I hope you take this in love, for you to look and study not as a debate.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jaylen on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    I love God and my question is everyone going to heaven?
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Carolyn, Great Question "How do you handle spiritual warfare besides praying and fasting?"

    1) study Prayerfully and Carefully, God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15, rule #2, in God's Bible "study" Rules: Link

    2) Then "put on the FULL armour of God, stand, and make known the Mystery Of The Gospel Of The GRACE of God!" Ephesians 6:10-20

    Precious Carolyn, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? )
  • Carolyn Felix on Job 1 - 3 years ago
    How do you handle spiritual warfare besides praying and fasting.
  • EH - 3 years ago
    Your explanation that states "We obviously can't achieve perfection in this life but we can strive for these characteristics."

    (Reference: 2 Corinthians 13:11) is not what I understand to be the case. According to the following references, man can be perfect; not in his own strength but in Jesus Christ: Deut 18:13, 1Kngs 8:61, Job 1:1 & 2:3, Ps 37:37 & 138:8. Prv 2:21 & 11:5, Lk 6:40, Jhn 17:23, Eph 4:13, Col 1:28 and Jas 3:2

    Perhaps my understanding is lacking.
  • Sheila Davis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    That is a question that has been asked for ages. Some feel that the devil knows your thoughts, while most others don't.

    Scripture does not give a definite answer on that subject but scripture does indicate that not only the devil but some angelic beings have access to one's mind _ Acts 5:3 Satan filled the heart of Ananias _ Luke 22:3 Satan entered Judas _ Matthew 1:20 -25 an angel came to Joseph in a dream _ Genesis 31:11 an angel of the Lord spoke to Jacob in a dream. One can argue that to have access to one's mine doesn't mean they can read your thoughts.

    And there are these scriptures

    Job 1:7-12 Satan before God discusses Job and the amount of access he can have to Just.

    Ephesians 6:11-16 discusses to put on the whole armor of God and to *quench* the fiery darts of Satan.

    James 4:7 tells us to *resist* the devil and *he will flee*.

    1st Peter 5:8 tells us Satan is like a roaring lion *seeking* whom he can *devour.*

    Revelation 12:10-12 the devil stands before God day and night accusing man, and woe to the inhabitants of the earth the devil has come down.

    Scripture is clear - Jesus knew one's thoughts even while in a flesh body Matthew 9:4. To Jesus the spirit was given to him without measure John 3:34.

    I believe Satan and certain angels have the ability to read some of someone's thoughts and Satan, being the accuser is allowed to influence those thoughts. I feel Satan and the angelic beings who have access to any thoughts of the minds/hearts of mankind are given a limited measure, unlike God who has full measure. Example what I'm going to eat for breakfast or what type of clothes I'm going to wear any given day isn't something they would need access to or even care about. But the part of the mind our decisions are made against good or for what we know is right, Satan knows our thoughts.


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