alex1939...Brenda good question...But let us remember what Jesus did at Calvary,..He made a New Covenant in his blood...When he had taken the cup he said this is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it...And if i be lifted up ( his blood ) i will draw ALL MEN unto me... Jeremiah 31:34...This is the Covenant i will make with the house of Israel and Judah I will put my words/laws in their hearts and MINDS and they shall shall ALL KNOW ME from the least to the greatest...And the Gentiles come into this Blood Covenant simply b/c if ye be in Christ then are you Abraham seed and are heirs according to the Promises...God so loved the world.
.....Many are called but few are Chosen...The only 1 Chosen is the H.G. that Gift of God to all the world..And is the Israel of God...But the book has to be opened 1st ....ok
Hello Meliah. I'm unsure whether you're asking about Jeremiah the man, or Jeremiah the prophetical book that he authored. So, I'll share on both points.
Jeremiah received the Word from God, that he was separated (set apart) from pre-birth & ordained to be God's prophet for that time in history ( Jeremiah 1:5). This was during the reign of King Josiah & his prophetical work went on till Judah's last reigning king, King Zedekiah - at which time Babylon invaded Palestine, occupied Jerusalem & captives taken back to Babylon.
The Book of Jeremiah is Jeremiah's account of God's dealings with him, Judah, their captors, and the other nations. Even though Jeremiah was reluctant to do as commanded by God, he nevertheless did not fail to bring out the prophetical message to the people. For over forty years, he faithfully proclaimed God's stern Judgement on apostate Judah, all the while Jeremiah had to endure fierce opposition, beatings & imprisonment ( Jeremiah 11:18-23; 12:6; 18:18; 20:1-3; 26:1-24; 37:11-38:28).
Even though warnings against sin & coming judgement are uppermost throughout the book, God still sent out messages of hope & future restoration. Predictions of a coming Messiah ( Jeremiah 23:5,6); the duration of the Babylonian captivity ( Jeremiah 25:11); and the revelation of the New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31-34) are the bright lights seen in this book.
alex1939...There are many analogies and metaphors for faith but Jesus only uses 1 saying you must be Bornagain...He uses child birth as a metaphor for faith saying unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...A lil Child is indicative of Child birth and Faith...a new creature etc...A new man or woman is on the horizon..As we have borne the image of the earthly we must also bear (birth) the image of the Heavenly...Indicative of the heavenly Birth, Christ in us...And Rev 12:5 uses this woman in travail a pregnancy as a picture of faith...Jesus knew this woman ...She has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...Her fetus...She is pregnant for Jesus the bridegroom...She has heard his words the good seed...She cannot see the Child til he is born...But she had the Evidence of things not seen...The H.G. the Child of Promise..That is gona rule all nations..She is hoping for the kingdom and Jesus said unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...There is only 1 analogy that truly defines faith and its Child birth...Plz note that true salvation and the Kingdom comes till the woman births the Child which is the H.G. that Child of Promise... REV 12:10..Now is come salvation after the woman births the Child...and the book is opened...The words of the book are that New Covenant and the seeds of the sower...Thats when they sang that new song the new covenant...A birthing covenant...I will know them all from the least to the greatest.. Jeremiah 31:34..An intimacy that is gona initiate a birth of Christ in everybody...Thus the woman is the world in travail and Child birth...There cannot be a heavenly birth without Faith..Simply b/c we cannot be bornagain again without his seed the words of that New Covenant...As Faith comes by hearing his words..Thats y Jeremiah speaks of the woman with Child and she that travails with Child a great company...An Israel of God is coming soon.
alex1939...Gerald GBU but let me remind you its what Jesus did at Calvary that saved all of us...His blood that New Covenant in his blood... Romans 5:8...While we were yet sinners Christ died for us,all of us...If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me...The 2 theives were made Clean by his blood and the words he spoke to them...That New Covenant in his blood You are made Clean by the Words i have spoken unto you...Abide in me and i in you ...They didn't need to be water baptised the old covenant Johns water baptism...This was a new COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD...Remember what Peter said to whom shall we go lord thou has the Words of Eternal life...Jesus had a conversation with these 2 theives and it was his words that made them Clean... Hebrews 10:20 I was found of them that sought me not and i was made manifest unto them that asked not after me...This New Covenant is a different covenant then the 1 st covenant...God Almighty says i will know them ALL from the least to the greatest... Jeremiah 31:34...And this knowledge is an intimacy that is gonna form Christ in everybody...Thus the babes and sucklings he mentions...And Isaiah says that this Knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas...Thats everybody...As Bro Paul mentions the whole creation groans for the manifestation of the Son of God (birth pains) ...The Children of Promise the H.G.... Romans 8:22...Real Faith is a spirtual pregnancy...They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin his words are his seeds that are gona fulfill that great Promise of Multiplication and regeneration...But these things are hid from the wise and prudent and revealed unto babes...Spirits the H.G. a living being our new heart and new spirit...An Israel of God...That New heaven and new earth...His seed and his name sake the H.G...27 times in the O.T. the Prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains...And thats y Elijah has to come and turn the fathers hearts to the Children...The Children of Promise...gbu Gerald
Anonymous...Alex...Plz note the woman does not go into birth pains till the book is opened...And thats when they sang that New Song...( the New Covenant a birthing covenant that he wrote with his own blood.. we ALL must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed..via the words of the book in the fathers right hand...The woman has faith simply b/c she is with Child of the seed of Jesus the contents of the book...The woman is the world as Jesus said the field is the world where that the good seed will be sown... Jeremiah 30:6 Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains.
.....The Woman has the substance of things hoped for ( the Kingdom ) The evidence of things not seen ( the Children of Promise ) ...Remember the great promise Christ has to be multiplied as the stars of heaven...thus all men in travail and birth pains...Thus Faith is truly a spiritual pregnancy preceding a spiritual birth of Christ in us...The Son of Man...Man kinds fruit unto God as in Romans 7 :4...WE must be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God which is the Child of Promise the H.G.
......Remember Isaiah 11:9...Isaiah saw an intimacy a Knowledge covering the earth as the waters covering the seas...Thus all men are gona travail in birth pains...Which is the very same as Jeremiah 31:34 Gods new Covenant i will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...This Know them all is an intimacy with God that is gonna result in a heavenly Birth...But b/f the birth takes place the only thing we have is Faith the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....the Child of PROMISE...The H.G. is the Child of PROMISE...When Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you it was baptism of the H.G...Via his words which are his seeds..Thats y he mentions the babes and sucklings...our new hearts and spirits...ok lemme go
Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...The words of our Lord.
The law was given to Israel but let's set that aside.
You are right in that you say, "The Commandments must be kept" Israel couldn't obtain salvation thru the keeping of the law and neither can we.
Christ came to free us from the curse of the law, that doesn't mean he did away with The Law.
In the old covenant "under the law" there was sacrifices made for sin. Those sacrifices pointed ahead to the only sacrifice that could take away sin AND regenerate the believer by the Spirit. Hebrews 10:3-10.
The old covenant had no power over the incurable heart. The new covenant humbled the sinner and pointed him in the right direction. "CHRIST" Ezekiel 36:26-27. Jeremiah 31:31-33.
The old covenant slew us and is called the ministration of death. Romans 7:5-11. 2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
The new covenant gave mercy. Why mercy? Because no one could keep the law, and no one is able to do so today. Putting ourselves in chains and grinding our teeth while restraining from sin isn't keeping the law. Galatians 2:21.
The commandments given didn't say keep the commandments as best you can.
You're breaking the law in your heart You're still a sinner. There's no sanctification. Christ came to give new birth and a new heart accompanied with mercy and grace.
The second you broke any one of them you were forever lost if there was no sacrifice that could take away sin. Hebrews 10:1-5.
It was the sacrifices that pointed to Christ that made atonement for those sins.
Israel having God in their midst with all the providence showed the world that the heart of man is incurably wicked.
The law showed that there was a need of a savior that could regenerate the believer and give a new heart and life.
The commandments are Holy and was given to a nation that was set apart to show man with God in their midst was nothing like God being "IN" them.
That's what's available today.
Read Galatians 3:10-26.
Perhaps more on this later this weekend God bless."
Dgjot...Salvation is for everybody...God so loved the world that he gave his only son...That whosoever believeth in him will neva perish....By 1 spirit are we ALL baptised into the body of Christ whether we be Jew or Gentile bond or free male or female...God is no respector of persons, He is gonna apply the blood of Christ to every person that ever lived....Jesus is gonna see thats its accomplished.
.....Jesus said if i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...By his Blood ..Its Jesus that is gonna draw all men unto himself....Thats y Hebrews...is saying I was found of them that SOUGHT ME NOT ( the world ) I was made manifest unto them that ASKED NOT after me ( the world ) HUMANITY.....ALL NATIONS....The manchild which is the H.G. IS GONA RULE ALL NATIONS.
...God so loved the WORLD..Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD ...When Jesus fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 person...He fed them ALL with a Childs lunch...Which is Prophetic of the Manchild the H.G. that is gona rule all nations...And feed all of us with that manna from heaven...The living Word...That new COVENANT which is ALL INCLUSIVE... Jeremiah 31:34...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest.
.....But every sinner will have to go thru that lake of fire which his baptism of the H.G. and fire...There has to be judgement ....As our God is a Consuming Fire....Its only the devil and his angels that are gonna be Consumed by this lake of fire...And our old Demonic Adamic Nature that is in rank with Satan...ok lemme go GBU
Jeanette may i give you my take on the order of Gods Business...The 2 Covenants ...1st was the Old Covenant, redemption by the blood of bullls and goats...The levitical Priest hood....But God found fault with the Levitical priesthood....Promising a New Covenant by his own blood....A 2 nd Covenant by the blood of the The lamb of God... Acts 20:28....But they had to be in order as 1 st and 2 nd...That we might see the futility of mans righteousness via the blood of bulls and goats...The Levitical Priesthood....vs the Melchizedek Priesthood....An everlasting Covenant ( Kingdom )...David comes to mind There was none righteous no not one under this levitical Priesthood...Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...The 1st Covenant answers to the night light a lesser light...But the 2 nd Covenant is like day light a GREATER LIGHT and there will be no night there where we are going...The Kingdom...It also answers to the 2 words the written word and the living word...1 is death and 1 is life as my words are spirit and life....But the letter is the written word and no eternal life in written words...a killer... The written word is truly manna but they all died in the wilderness ...But the 2 nd Covenant is his flesh and blood the living Words and if any man eats of my flesh and blood he will neva die....But this 2 nd covenant is hid from the wise and prudent but reveled unto babes and sucklings...Until the book is opened....AND GOD POURS OUT OF HIS SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH... Joel 2 :28...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest... Jeremiah 31:34...k lemme go.
Hosea 12:2-6, it is wisdom to search out scripture, many times GOD clarifies His WORD & repeats. Also significant : Genesis 28:17-22, Genesis 32, Genesis 35:1,3, Genesis 35 whole chapter puts together Bethel & Bethlehem & GOD's appearing, Genesis 48:3,7, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 2:3, Isaiah 41:8, Jeremiah 31:11, Jeremiah 51:19, Micah 4:2, Acts 7:46-48,
Hiya Adam GBU ....Lemme speak to you for a Sec....In Hebrews there are no upper case or lower case letters....Its just Gods And in Gen 26:4...That is not addressing just Abraham but also Jesus as Gal.3:15 tells us....Now unto Abraham and his seed were the Promises made but he says not seeds plural but unto 1 seed which is CHRIST....Thus its Christ that is gona be multiplied as the stars of Heaven....Thats y the sower will go forth to sow his precious seed in our hearts that we might birth a Baby Christ the H.G. THAT CHILD OF Promise....Thus the Woman in Rev 12:5....And that Child that the woman gives birth to is a Baby God...The H.G...As he said that which is BORN BORN of the spirit is Spirit as our God is Spirit....And Adam we are gonna be marrried to that Child the H.G.....Which is spirit...Thus 1 ST COR.15:53....We are gonna put on incorruption and IMMORATALITY...A marriage is when 2 are made 1....And immorality is Godliness..And we are gonna bemaried to this IMMORALITY...God Almighty.
... Isaiah 62:5....As a young man marries a virgin so shall thy sons marry thee....We are gona marry our Sons, the H.G that we have given birth to which is Spirit....We are gonna marry our sons which is the H.G. that we have given birth to from that good seed the living word...Remember what Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me..
...And Adam we cannot receive his Spirit without being married to God....Its gonna be a hugh number that no man can number...As the stars of Heaven in multitudes....That was the essence of that great Promise...meaning every body....When he said I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh....Thats an Israel of God Number....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me....Satan does not want any body knowing their rights under the NEW Covenant that our lord gave to us by his Blood at Calvary.....This is my Blood of the New Covenant..Drink ye all of it.... Jeremiah 31:34 New Covenant i will KNOW them ALL from least to GREATEST..
Giannis GBU...But you are wrong....While we were yet sinners Christ died for us...All of us.... Romans 10:20...I was found of them that sought me not and i was made manifest unto them that asked not after me...Its Jesus that is gonna do the drawing...If i be lifted up i will I will I will DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME unto me...God showed his love for humanity while we were yet sinners Jesus died for everyman....I will draw all men unto me... Romans 5:9 kjv....Thats y Rev...7:9 is saying...I saw a number that NO MAN cd number of all nations tribes and ppls and tongues and kindreds....Its Jesus who drew all these ppl to HIMSELF....Which is that New Covenant in his Blood....I will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...And their sins and iniquities will i remember no more... Jeremiah 31:34...A new Covenant not according to the old covenant....Many called few chosen...But this New Covenant in his blood is a ..I WILL KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me..Thus a number no man can number...
......Remember Legion the man with all the demons, he wanted nothing to do with Jesus...But Jesus cast the devils outta of Legion anyway....Jesus didn't care what Satan wanted....He paid the price for every man...As we are all bought with a price...his blood.
To the 'two sticks being joined together', I can't offer any more on that, since I read the Ezekiel chapter differently to you & apply the meaning of the sticks to Israel & Judah, as the whole chapter is about people not books.
I wouldn't be able to comment whether certain people are from a particular tribe of Israel. Unless people can do a verifiable research to trace their ancestry to such a distant point, I generally leave off that discussion as I see it going nowhere and we end up with just opinions.
"Is the Bible gathering Israel?" By this I understand, is there a clear thread running through the Bible of Israel one day coming together & worshipping the LORD in Truth? There are several references to this: Jeremiah 31:31-34; Deuteronomy 30:1-6; Isaiah 41:8,9; Isaiah 11:10-12, are some of the Scriptures about the future re-gathering of Israel. There are of course, many references to Israel's other regatherings, i.e. from the captivities, etc.
Re: your belief in "both Bible & Mormon". Without even looking at the Book of Mormon (BOM) now, we just need to study the utterances of those men I mentioned previously, which should cause one to balk at the very nature of these men & the beliefs surrounding the LDS. If the Apostle Paul came out with an epistle speaking about the moon being inhabited by six foot men dressed like Quakers, I would look at Paul with great suspicion as also his other letters & probably wonder how much other falsehoods are found in the Bible. We can't isolate the BOM from what that church's leaders believed & taught, however ignorant they might have been of the truth. Just as today, both the preachers' words & the words of the Bible are weighed in together - and one or both might stand or fall as a result.
Therefore; there is no more holding back judgment (See Jeremiah 15:1 for example). The "plumbline" is drawn ( Amos 7:7-9).
There is a distinct time frame where God says "enough" and Christ is set free with the righteous angels to procure judgment.
We see in the following chapters that in fact He uses Satan by giving him what he always wanted; control over the entire world.
Geographically; he doesn't gain all the territory; but surely with technology and his minions can enforce his mark worldwide through the 10 nations or regional confederacy that rule with him for "one hour". ( Rev. 17:12). It is an interesting sidenote; which I pointed out before about some who fight in the Ezekiel 38 war AGAINST Antichrist. Since one sixth survive it is possible that they did NOT recieve the mark of the Beast and have a chance at surviving into othe Millenium. In Isaiah 49:23 we see kings and queens being "nursing fathers" and mothers as it were (part of that obviously symbolic). In Jeremiah 31:16-17 we see further confirmation of this. This isn't the main point of the passage; but it shows how God may use captivity and even kidnapping to ultimately preserve the lives of children into the Millennium; the alternative being killed in Israel by Antichrist.
We need to see several larger themes here. God is using all this so that FINALLY as Christ is returning the nation will repent; and that in weeping. (see Zechariah 12:12). It seems hard to believe that the nations get it in regard to Christ and God in the sixth seal; and Israel remains blind that long. Romans 11:25 sheds some light on this; in regard to the "fullness of the Gentiles" which could be indicative of the Church Age ending; complete with the Rapture/Resurrections discussed previously.
Altogether; He uses Satan's own planning to draw men to the snare and trap of Armageddon where things come to a swift conclusion. No more delay can occur or no flesh would live ( Matt. 24:22
Hiya Dere Gbu....Dere salvation is for everybody...According to the New Covenant Jeremiah 31:34....I will KNOW them all from the least to the greatest thats everybody...And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more...And this New Covenant is what Jesus accomplished at Calvary....in his blood....And Isaiah 11 saw all the world coming under this New Covenant....He says that KNOWLEDGE shall cover the earth as the waters cover the Seas....This knowledge is a spritual intimacy that results in a birth of Christ in everybody....Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...Thats y Jesus said if i be lifted up ( his blood of that New Covenant) I will draw all men unto me...There is a book in the right hand of the father that Jesus wrote with his own Blood...When that book is opened it gonna result in a Spritual pregnancy for all men....Thats y the woman n Rev. 12:5 is giving birth to the child that is gonna rule all nations...This intimacy KNOWLEDGE is gonna be to everyman....I will KNOW THEM ALL from the least to the greatest...Thats everybody....Thats y Isaiah 65 :1 is saying...I was found of them that sought me not i was made manifest to them that asked not after me....Everybody is gona get it...When we were yet sinners Jesus died for all of us....We are all bought and paid for by his blood...Everybody....At the CROSS we were all redeemed by the blood of the lamb....Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...period
.....Thats y God told Peter what i have made CLEAN ( BY THE blood of Jesus )...donot call common or unclean....( by commanding water baptism for the remission of sins).....AT the Cross that New Covenant in his BLOOD all sins were paid for...He is gonna pour out of his spirit on all flesh....Thats everybody...The old covenant many were called few chosen..but the New Covenant is all Inclusive....i will know them ALL from the least to the Greatest..In Adam we all die but in CHRIST WE WILL ALL LIVE...
"And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
so for those who think they are going to be whisked away are deluded to think so. Understand the rapture is at the END of the Millennium the 1000 years.
only those saved during the tribulation will have our Creators MARK IN THEIR FOREHEADS (Mind) basically what you believe to be true.
Revelation 7:3
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." 144,000 first fruits
i believe from scripture that number of first fruits is 153 the parable of the fish caught in the net John 21:11
I believe the number gathered is 33.333% of the world population
Jeremiah 31:34
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
These are the people that the ALMIGHTY will protect under HIS WINGS during the tribulation.
Yehshua said in MATTHEW Elijah will come first RESTORE ALL THINGS? Before HIS COMING?
WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS BEING RESTORED? His Laws, His Statues, His Judgements, His Sabbath and holy set apart days the world are ignorant to or deceived into worshiping on the wrong days!!! of course HE allowed for all this to happen, because His Word tells us this would happen. Matthew 15:9
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
the 7 year tribulation is a LIE so is a THIRD TEMPLE BEING BUILT LIES!!!!!. YOU, WE are the Temple, Yehshua is the Head He was also our Creators first witness
The Ezekiel reference is future. "It's during the Millennium " Ezekiel is seeing a vision as Ezekiel 40:1-2 says.
But let's set that aside and be direct with one another. Your aim is to fight anyone who claims Israel exist. Atleast that's what your original post seems to say. I've sent you several verses where God says his promises depends himself and his honor as a father to them and not their obedience. God is not a liar and he doesn't make promises that he don't see through and when he promised to Abraham he promised by himself. Hebrews 6:13-18.
LISTEN TO THE LORD ASSURANCE TO THEIR EXISTENCE.
Jeremiah 31:35-36. Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE SUN AND THE MOON STILL SHINES!
VERSE 37 GIVES ASSURANCE IN A WAY THAT IT CONTRADICT YOU DIRECTLY.
Jeremiah 31:37. Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel FOR ALL THAT THEY HAVE DONE, saith the LORD.
GOD SAYS IF YOU CAN MEASURE HEAVEN AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH SEARCHED OUT BENEATH HE WILL CUT OUT THE SEED OF ISRAEL FOR ALL THE WRONG THEY HAVE DONE!!!
ARE YOU SAYING HE'S LYING?
Larry B you may not have to like Israel but you should be glad to see they still exist because if God's word and promises can't be trusted then we have no hope.
For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 31:17. I pray in JESUS name that Latonya recover from surgery and it will turn out great and she continue to have faith in the LORD. Now faith is the substance of thing hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1. AMEN!
S Spencer. Romans 8:1-11. - In Reply - 2 years ago
Part 3.
In Acts 15 the Disciples have a counsel on whether the Gentiles should be circumcised and keep the law, then Peter stands up to address the matter. Acts 15:7-11. Here you have the apostle Peter "A Jew" saying in verse 11, we Jews shall be saved in the same manner as the Gentiles! (By faith) "He's declaring "we jews have to come to the Lord by a new covenant".
This is the new birth spoken by Jesus in John 3:5 when speaking to Nicodemus. This is that which is spoken in
Jeremiah 31:31-34.
So here we have a new birth that provides a new nature that is generated by the Holyspirit. You see aspects of this in
Romans 6:1-23. Also, this is what is meant in John 4:21-24.
Here we have the quickening spirit by the second Adam that gives life under a new covenant where the old covenant brought death to the fleshly descendants of the first Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45-50. and 2 Corinthians 5:1-6.
Ephesians 2:1-5 sums it up.
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
"AGAIN We're not talking about "Justification" we're talking about sanctification. Romans 5:1-21 handles justification.
GRAFTED INTO THE VINE BY THE RESURECTION OF CHRIST.
John 15:1-5.
Romans 6:6.
Now take these chapters in order-
Romans 6:1-23.
Romans 7:1-25.
Romans 8:1-39.
We are Justified and Sanctified by the blood of Christ and given a new nature under a new covenant that bares fruit by the power of the Holyspirit.
There appear to be multiple layers to this story. The "waiting to be delivered" as stated in the other comment could be the birth pangs so to speak of the nation of Israel during the Tribulation. Of course there was a literal persecution during the time of Christ where the leader attempted to wipe out all children two years and under ( Jeremiah 31:15; and Matthew 2). The manchild being dtaken to heaven could represent Christ; but also the raptured church according to some theories. The "remnant of her seed" ( Rev. 12:17) could be the rest of the believers in Israel; and perhaps others during the Tribulation who are preserved physically.
Ultimately; even with most dying on earth a remnant survive in hiding during the Tribulation to make it into the Millennium dispensation. In all these cases the dragon aka Satan is working behind the scenes attempting to wipe out the physical seed of Israel; totally destroy their land and heritage and to usurp authority and worship to himself. In one sense; we are all part of the Body of Christ; or ijn some sense Godly offspring originating from Christ who is our head ( Ephesians 1).
God doesn't need possessions as we understand it, 'having or owning things' that are necessary for our survival or happiness. In Psalm 50:10, God says: "For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills." God owns all things He has created, even the special called-out people (first Israel, then those who've come to faith in Christ) & also that special city Jerusalem (Zion). Psalm 87:2-3 says, "The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God." According to this verse, Zion is synonymous with City of God, and it is a place that God loves. Zion is Jerusalem.
Zion is first mentioned in 2 Samuel 5:7. Zion was originally an ancient Jebusite fortress in the city of Jerusalem. After David's conquest of the fortress, Jerusalem became a possession of Israel. The royal palace was built there, and Zion/Jerusalem became the seat of power in Israel's kingdom. When Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the meaning of Zion included the temple area ( Psalm 2:6; Psalm 48:2,11,12; Psalm 132:13). Therefore, the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:6, "Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God."
Zion is also used in a spiritual sense in Scripture. In the Old Testament, Zion refers figuratively to Israel as the people of God ( Isaiah 60:14). In the New Testament, Zion refers to God's spiritual kingdom: Hebrews 12:22. Peter, quoting Isaiah 28:16, refers to Christ as the Cornerstone of Zion ( 1 Peter 2:6).
Mount Zion, as a geographical area, is now the focus of much dispute (mainly between Jews & Muslims). The Bible is clear that one day Zion will be the sole possession of the Lord Jesus, and Zion, both the nation and the city, will be restored. ( Isaiah 52:1; Isaiah 60:14). When Jesus returns to Earth, His rule will be from Jerusalem ( Zechariah 14:1-4; Luke 1:32,33). I hope you can see why Zion is so important & especially significant in God's Eyes as a special City of God (on Earth).
"They shall no more teach their brothers or their neighbors know the LORD...They shall ALL KNOW ME FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST..."
But does that literally mean that there is no need to be tought anything about Jesus because God's Spirit will do that Himself? Is that literal? Have we so far, for 2 th. years, seen something like that? Have you met any person, any church, that can claim that God tought him/them the Gospel personally? I haven't heard or read anything like that. As far something like that hasn't existed so far, it makes me believe that the above scripture must be interpeted in a different way.
2. Angels do not evangelize people. We don't see that anywhere in the NT. Remember the angel that was sent to Cornelious? He pointed out apostle Peter to him, he himself didn't say or teach anything about salvation. You are right about the angel in Revelation, but my belief is that he was send to evangelize people because after the rapture of the church just before the appearance of antichrist there will be no church to speak to people, and hence an angel will be sent together with the 2 prophets to do this task.
3. The New Covenant was made by God actually. But in any case that we have a covenant or a testament both sides involved must sign or accept it so it becomes valid. If either side do not accept it never becomes valid. God will never step back. So it is in man's hand to accept it or reject it. Some accept it and some, the most, reject it. If one rejects the salvation offered by God, will God eventually force him in Heaven? Sorry but I don't think so. If that was the case why do we bother to evangelize people? Stay home, God will do that. Why live a pure life and restrict ourselfs from the pleasures of sin, we will be saved anyway. Why the early christians threw themselves to the lions and fires and suffer so many persecutions if saved anyway?
Isaiah 45:24 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
2 Kings 2:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.
Jeremiah 31:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
Isaiah 42:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
Psalms 70:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward, and put to confusion, that desire my hurt.
Psalms 40:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and confounded together that seek after my soul to destroy it; let them be driven backward and put to shame that wish me evil.
Isaiah 1:29 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.
Psalms 35:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonour that magnify themselves against me.
Joel 2:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
Salvation is a new creation in you performed by God.
Salvation is when "GOD TRANSFORM YOU" after you truly believing and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ. You have been transformed from dead to life. we're not perfect but we are transformed.
Here's a few old testament scripture that gives a description of salvation and how it's performed.
Deuteronomy 30:6. And the LORD thy God will CIRCUMCISE thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. "Here you see the lord cutting away filthy flesh from your heart."
vs. 8. " This is what God causes you to do after cutting away the "flesh".
"And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day."
Jeremiah 24:7.
Jeremiah 31:33-34.
Jeremiah 32:38-40.
"I like vs 40! Eternal Security found in the old testament!
( And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me)
Ezekiel 11:19.
Ezekiel 36:25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I CLEANSE YOU.
Ezekiel 36:26-27. "Salvation is a cleansing!"
Salvation is a transformation by Gods spirit in you, and that comes by way of Jesus.
Salvation is a new creation in you performed by God.
Salvation is when "GOD TRANSFORM YOU" after you truly believing and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ. You have been transformed from dead to life. we're not perfect but we are transformed.
Here's a few old testament scripture that gives a description of salvation.
Deuteronomy 30:6. And the LORD thy God will CIRCUMCISE thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. "Here you see the lord cutting away filthy flesh from your heart."
vs. 8. " This is what God causes you to do after cutting away the "flesh".
"And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day."
Jeremiah 24:7.
Jeremiah 31:33-34.
Jeremiah 32:38-40.
Ezekiel 11:19.
Ezekiel 36:25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I CLEANSE YOU.
Ezekiel 36:26-27. "Salvation is a cleansing!"
Salvation is a transformation by Gods spirit in you, and that comes by way of Jesus.
Exodus 4:22-23. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me:...
Also:
"Prophetic."
Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: FOR I AM A FATHER TO ISRAEL, and Ephraim is my firstborn. Jeremiah 31:8-9.
Israel was to be set apart.
Exodus 19:5.
2 Chronicles 7:10-16. And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.
Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.
And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
Dan there is a difference in obeying Gods commandments by the power of the Holyspirit and Putting yourself under the law.
Luke 6:46-47. Is a condition AFTER you have received salvation. "Not an requirement! That rock is Christ, Not the Law!
And the verse you quoted is to Israel. So let's examine that.
Jeremiah 31:31-33. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
You noticed verse 32?
He said NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers. Why? "which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them." The Law was given to Israel fathers and they couldn't keep them.
When they, "Israel as a nation' come to Christ in the Millennium that will.
Just as his Church today!
Right now the Lord is calling out his Church and then he will deal with Israel.
Israel with God taking them by the hand as a husband to them and still coming up short was to drive us to Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:2-11. sums up this whole discussion.
Everything we obey "IS" by the Spirit of God. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.
Dan there is a difference in obeying Gods commandments by the power of the Holyspirit and Putting yourself under the law.
Luke 6:46-47. Is a condition AFTER you have received salvation. "Not an requirement! That rock is Christ, Not the Law!
And the verse you quoted is to Israel. So let's examine that.
Jeremiah 31:31-33. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
You noticed verse 32?
He said NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers. Why? "which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them." The Law was given to Israel fathers and they couldn't keep them.
When they, "Israel as a nation' come to Christ in the Millennium that will.
Just as his Church today!
Right now the Lord is calling out his Church and then he will deal with Israel.
Israel with God taking them by the hand as a husband to them and still coming up short was to drive us to Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:2-11. sums up this whole discussion.
Everything we obey IS by the Spirit of God. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.
The first 12 verses is rectrospect 13 through 28 is judgement, redemption and restoration.
Here we see where God says he created Israel, he also redeemed Israel and he will restore them! This section of scripture proves God is not done with Israel as some the Church has replaced Israel in receiving the promises given in the Old Testament or the promises given to Israel is actually to the church and not Israel.
Look at these verses! Isaiah 43:24-25.
24) "Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities."
25) I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins." )
Verse 25 says a lot! God stake his Great name on the restoration of Israel!
See Jeremiah 31:34-37.
That restoration and redemption doesn't depend on Israels faithfulness
See Jeremiah 23:5-8.
Parallel these verses with Isaiah 43 and you will also discover the father and the son in the God head.
Amen. I think it's a great idea to keep our Governing nation in prayer, and pray they let God govern their hearts!
When Israel did right by the Lord he gave them rest and the spirit of the lord rested on the leaders! Numbers 11:25-29.
As a nation we've put together great writings on paper and we Identfied ourselves by these writings but we never accomplished what we have in writing. Sort of reminds you of Israel doesn't it? Actually Israel didn't just have the law written on skin, they had the Lord in their midst. But his laws wasn't written on there hearts! And this is the only geographical nation/Country that has been set apart by the Lord.
That ought to humble every other nation! God has raised up nations in the past to do his will and then judge that nation!
Habakkuk 1:5-6.
Jeremiah 25:11-12.
God used Assyria and Babylon to chastise Israel and turn the rod on them.
God raises up great kings to do his will!
Isaiah 45:1.
Ezekiel 29:18-20.
Pride goeth before destruction and an haulty spirit before a fall.
All these nations fell! Now Let's look at Israel. Ezekiel 16:48-50. Notice verses 49 and 50? You noticed God called sodom Israels sister! When God brought Israel out of Egypt God called them his son. He was a father and a husband to them. But they turned from God so at this point he's telling them they have the same father as Sodom, and we know who that is!
"He's not governing there heart" but there will come a time he will. Jeremiah 31:31-34. Noticed verse 33? He will put his law in their inward parts!
Looking at Israel and the way the Lord raised up nations and later judged them should humble us!
There will come a time when his nation will be taken out of the world and he will deal with all the worlds nations.
Joel 3:2.
So let's pray the lost people of ALL nations humble themselves and get on a tract they have NEVER been on.
.....Many are called but few are Chosen...The only 1 Chosen is the H.G. that Gift of God to all the world..And is the Israel of God...But the book has to be opened 1st ....ok
Jeremiah received the Word from God, that he was separated (set apart) from pre-birth & ordained to be God's prophet for that time in history ( Jeremiah 1:5). This was during the reign of King Josiah & his prophetical work went on till Judah's last reigning king, King Zedekiah - at which time Babylon invaded Palestine, occupied Jerusalem & captives taken back to Babylon.
The Book of Jeremiah is Jeremiah's account of God's dealings with him, Judah, their captors, and the other nations. Even though Jeremiah was reluctant to do as commanded by God, he nevertheless did not fail to bring out the prophetical message to the people. For over forty years, he faithfully proclaimed God's stern Judgement on apostate Judah, all the while Jeremiah had to endure fierce opposition, beatings & imprisonment ( Jeremiah 11:18-23; 12:6; 18:18; 20:1-3; 26:1-24; 37:11-38:28).
Even though warnings against sin & coming judgement are uppermost throughout the book, God still sent out messages of hope & future restoration. Predictions of a coming Messiah ( Jeremiah 23:5,6); the duration of the Babylonian captivity ( Jeremiah 25:11); and the revelation of the New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31-34) are the bright lights seen in this book.
.....The Woman has the substance of things hoped for ( the Kingdom ) The evidence of things not seen ( the Children of Promise ) ...Remember the great promise Christ has to be multiplied as the stars of heaven...thus all men in travail and birth pains...Thus Faith is truly a spiritual pregnancy preceding a spiritual birth of Christ in us...The Son of Man...Man kinds fruit unto God as in Romans 7 :4...WE must be married to Christ and bring forth fruit unto God which is the Child of Promise the H.G.
......Remember Isaiah 11:9...Isaiah saw an intimacy a Knowledge covering the earth as the waters covering the seas...Thus all men are gona travail in birth pains...Which is the very same as Jeremiah 31:34 Gods new Covenant i will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST...This Know them all is an intimacy with God that is gonna result in a heavenly Birth...But b/f the birth takes place the only thing we have is Faith the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....the Child of PROMISE...The H.G. is the Child of PROMISE...When Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you it was baptism of the H.G...Via his words which are his seeds..Thats y he mentions the babes and sucklings...our new hearts and spirits...ok lemme go
Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...The words of our Lord.
The law was given to Israel but let's set that aside.
You are right in that you say, "The Commandments must be kept" Israel couldn't obtain salvation thru the keeping of the law and neither can we.
Christ came to free us from the curse of the law, that doesn't mean he did away with The Law.
In the old covenant "under the law" there was sacrifices made for sin. Those sacrifices pointed ahead to the only sacrifice that could take away sin AND regenerate the believer by the Spirit. Hebrews 10:3-10.
The old covenant had no power over the incurable heart. The new covenant humbled the sinner and pointed him in the right direction. "CHRIST" Ezekiel 36:26-27. Jeremiah 31:31-33.
The old covenant slew us and is called the ministration of death. Romans 7:5-11. 2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
The new covenant gave mercy. Why mercy? Because no one could keep the law, and no one is able to do so today. Putting ourselves in chains and grinding our teeth while restraining from sin isn't keeping the law. Galatians 2:21.
The commandments given didn't say keep the commandments as best you can.
You're breaking the law in your heart You're still a sinner. There's no sanctification. Christ came to give new birth and a new heart accompanied with mercy and grace.
The second you broke any one of them you were forever lost if there was no sacrifice that could take away sin. Hebrews 10:1-5.
It was the sacrifices that pointed to Christ that made atonement for those sins.
Israel having God in their midst with all the providence showed the world that the heart of man is incurably wicked.
The law showed that there was a need of a savior that could regenerate the believer and give a new heart and life.
The commandments are Holy and was given to a nation that was set apart to show man with God in their midst was nothing like God being "IN" them.
That's what's available today.
Read Galatians 3:10-26.
Perhaps more on this later this weekend God bless."
Hopefully these are helpful
.....Jesus said if i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...By his Blood ..Its Jesus that is gonna draw all men unto himself....Thats y Hebrews...is saying I was found of them that SOUGHT ME NOT ( the world ) I was made manifest unto them that ASKED NOT after me ( the world ) HUMANITY.....ALL NATIONS....The manchild which is the H.G. IS GONA RULE ALL NATIONS.
...God so loved the WORLD..Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD ...When Jesus fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 person...He fed them ALL with a Childs lunch...Which is Prophetic of the Manchild the H.G. that is gona rule all nations...And feed all of us with that manna from heaven...The living Word...That new COVENANT which is ALL INCLUSIVE... Jeremiah 31:34...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest.
.....But every sinner will have to go thru that lake of fire which his baptism of the H.G. and fire...There has to be judgement ....As our God is a Consuming Fire....Its only the devil and his angels that are gonna be Consumed by this lake of fire...And our old Demonic Adamic Nature that is in rank with Satan...ok lemme go GBU
Psalms 146:5,
James 1:5,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study
... Isaiah 62:5....As a young man marries a virgin so shall thy sons marry thee....We are gona marry our Sons, the H.G that we have given birth to which is Spirit....We are gonna marry our sons which is the H.G. that we have given birth to from that good seed the living word...Remember what Jesus said whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me..
...And Adam we cannot receive his Spirit without being married to God....Its gonna be a hugh number that no man can number...As the stars of Heaven in multitudes....That was the essence of that great Promise...meaning every body....When he said I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh....Thats an Israel of God Number....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN unto me....Satan does not want any body knowing their rights under the NEW Covenant that our lord gave to us by his Blood at Calvary.....This is my Blood of the New Covenant..Drink ye all of it.... Jeremiah 31:34 New Covenant i will KNOW them ALL from least to GREATEST..
......Remember Legion the man with all the demons, he wanted nothing to do with Jesus...But Jesus cast the devils outta of Legion anyway....Jesus didn't care what Satan wanted....He paid the price for every man...As we are all bought with a price...his blood.
Thanks for your further comments, Paul.
To the 'two sticks being joined together', I can't offer any more on that, since I read the Ezekiel chapter differently to you & apply the meaning of the sticks to Israel & Judah, as the whole chapter is about people not books.
I wouldn't be able to comment whether certain people are from a particular tribe of Israel. Unless people can do a verifiable research to trace their ancestry to such a distant point, I generally leave off that discussion as I see it going nowhere and we end up with just opinions.
"Is the Bible gathering Israel?" By this I understand, is there a clear thread running through the Bible of Israel one day coming together & worshipping the LORD in Truth? There are several references to this: Jeremiah 31:31-34; Deuteronomy 30:1-6; Isaiah 41:8,9; Isaiah 11:10-12, are some of the Scriptures about the future re-gathering of Israel. There are of course, many references to Israel's other regatherings, i.e. from the captivities, etc.
Re: your belief in "both Bible & Mormon". Without even looking at the Book of Mormon (BOM) now, we just need to study the utterances of those men I mentioned previously, which should cause one to balk at the very nature of these men & the beliefs surrounding the LDS. If the Apostle Paul came out with an epistle speaking about the moon being inhabited by six foot men dressed like Quakers, I would look at Paul with great suspicion as also his other letters & probably wonder how much other falsehoods are found in the Bible. We can't isolate the BOM from what that church's leaders believed & taught, however ignorant they might have been of the truth. Just as today, both the preachers' words & the words of the Bible are weighed in together - and one or both might stand or fall as a result.
Therefore; there is no more holding back judgment (See Jeremiah 15:1 for example). The "plumbline" is drawn ( Amos 7:7-9).
There is a distinct time frame where God says "enough" and Christ is set free with the righteous angels to procure judgment.
We see in the following chapters that in fact He uses Satan by giving him what he always wanted; control over the entire world.
Geographically; he doesn't gain all the territory; but surely with technology and his minions can enforce his mark worldwide through the 10 nations or regional confederacy that rule with him for "one hour". ( Rev. 17:12). It is an interesting sidenote; which I pointed out before about some who fight in the Ezekiel 38 war AGAINST Antichrist. Since one sixth survive it is possible that they did NOT recieve the mark of the Beast and have a chance at surviving into othe Millenium. In Isaiah 49:23 we see kings and queens being "nursing fathers" and mothers as it were (part of that obviously symbolic). In Jeremiah 31:16-17 we see further confirmation of this. This isn't the main point of the passage; but it shows how God may use captivity and even kidnapping to ultimately preserve the lives of children into the Millennium; the alternative being killed in Israel by Antichrist.
We need to see several larger themes here. God is using all this so that FINALLY as Christ is returning the nation will repent; and that in weeping. (see Zechariah 12:12). It seems hard to believe that the nations get it in regard to Christ and God in the sixth seal; and Israel remains blind that long. Romans 11:25 sheds some light on this; in regard to the "fullness of the Gentiles" which could be indicative of the Church Age ending; complete with the Rapture/Resurrections discussed previously.
Altogether; He uses Satan's own planning to draw men to the snare and trap of Armageddon where things come to a swift conclusion. No more delay can occur or no flesh would live ( Matt. 24:22
.....Thats y God told Peter what i have made CLEAN ( BY THE blood of Jesus )...donot call common or unclean....( by commanding water baptism for the remission of sins).....AT the Cross that New Covenant in his BLOOD all sins were paid for...He is gonna pour out of his spirit on all flesh....Thats everybody...The old covenant many were called few chosen..but the New Covenant is all Inclusive....i will know them ALL from the least to the Greatest..In Adam we all die but in CHRIST WE WILL ALL LIVE...
Yehshua also said Revelation 6:11
"And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
so for those who think they are going to be whisked away are deluded to think so. Understand the rapture is at the END of the Millennium the 1000 years.
only those saved during the tribulation will have our Creators MARK IN THEIR FOREHEADS (Mind) basically what you believe to be true.
Revelation 7:3
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." 144,000 first fruits
i believe from scripture that number of first fruits is 153 the parable of the fish caught in the net John 21:11
I believe the number gathered is 33.333% of the world population
Jeremiah 31:34
"And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
These are the people that the ALMIGHTY will protect under HIS WINGS during the tribulation.
Yehshua said in MATTHEW Elijah will come first RESTORE ALL THINGS? Before HIS COMING?
WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS BEING RESTORED? His Laws, His Statues, His Judgements, His Sabbath and holy set apart days the world are ignorant to or deceived into worshiping on the wrong days!!! of course HE allowed for all this to happen, because His Word tells us this would happen. Matthew 15:9
"But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
the 7 year tribulation is a LIE so is a THIRD TEMPLE BEING BUILT LIES!!!!!. YOU, WE are the Temple, Yehshua is the Head He was also our Creators first witness
you need to understand Zechariah 4:14
The Ezekiel reference is future. "It's during the Millennium " Ezekiel is seeing a vision as Ezekiel 40:1-2 says.
But let's set that aside and be direct with one another. Your aim is to fight anyone who claims Israel exist. Atleast that's what your original post seems to say. I've sent you several verses where God says his promises depends himself and his honor as a father to them and not their obedience. God is not a liar and he doesn't make promises that he don't see through and when he promised to Abraham he promised by himself. Hebrews 6:13-18.
LISTEN TO THE LORD ASSURANCE TO THEIR EXISTENCE.
Jeremiah 31:35-36. Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE SUN AND THE MOON STILL SHINES!
VERSE 37 GIVES ASSURANCE IN A WAY THAT IT CONTRADICT YOU DIRECTLY.
Jeremiah 31:37. Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel FOR ALL THAT THEY HAVE DONE, saith the LORD.
GOD SAYS IF YOU CAN MEASURE HEAVEN AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH SEARCHED OUT BENEATH HE WILL CUT OUT THE SEED OF ISRAEL FOR ALL THE WRONG THEY HAVE DONE!!!
ARE YOU SAYING HE'S LYING?
Larry B you may not have to like Israel but you should be glad to see they still exist because if God's word and promises can't be trusted then we have no hope.
God bless.
In Acts 15 the Disciples have a counsel on whether the Gentiles should be circumcised and keep the law, then Peter stands up to address the matter. Acts 15:7-11. Here you have the apostle Peter "A Jew" saying in verse 11, we Jews shall be saved in the same manner as the Gentiles! (By faith) "He's declaring "we jews have to come to the Lord by a new covenant".
This is the new birth spoken by Jesus in John 3:5 when speaking to Nicodemus. This is that which is spoken in
Jeremiah 31:31-34.
So here we have a new birth that provides a new nature that is generated by the Holyspirit. You see aspects of this in
Romans 6:1-23. Also, this is what is meant in John 4:21-24.
Here we have the quickening spirit by the second Adam that gives life under a new covenant where the old covenant brought death to the fleshly descendants of the first Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45-50. and 2 Corinthians 5:1-6.
Ephesians 2:1-5 sums it up.
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
"AGAIN We're not talking about "Justification" we're talking about sanctification. Romans 5:1-21 handles justification.
GRAFTED INTO THE VINE BY THE RESURECTION OF CHRIST.
John 15:1-5.
Romans 6:6.
Now take these chapters in order-
Romans 6:1-23.
Romans 7:1-25.
Romans 8:1-39.
We are Justified and Sanctified by the blood of Christ and given a new nature under a new covenant that bares fruit by the power of the Holyspirit.
God bless.
Ultimately; even with most dying on earth a remnant survive in hiding during the Tribulation to make it into the Millennium dispensation. In all these cases the dragon aka Satan is working behind the scenes attempting to wipe out the physical seed of Israel; totally destroy their land and heritage and to usurp authority and worship to himself. In one sense; we are all part of the Body of Christ; or ijn some sense Godly offspring originating from Christ who is our head ( Ephesians 1).
Zion is first mentioned in 2 Samuel 5:7. Zion was originally an ancient Jebusite fortress in the city of Jerusalem. After David's conquest of the fortress, Jerusalem became a possession of Israel. The royal palace was built there, and Zion/Jerusalem became the seat of power in Israel's kingdom. When Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the meaning of Zion included the temple area ( Psalm 2:6; Psalm 48:2,11,12; Psalm 132:13). Therefore, the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:6, "Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God."
Zion is also used in a spiritual sense in Scripture. In the Old Testament, Zion refers figuratively to Israel as the people of God ( Isaiah 60:14). In the New Testament, Zion refers to God's spiritual kingdom: Hebrews 12:22. Peter, quoting Isaiah 28:16, refers to Christ as the Cornerstone of Zion ( 1 Peter 2:6).
Mount Zion, as a geographical area, is now the focus of much dispute (mainly between Jews & Muslims). The Bible is clear that one day Zion will be the sole possession of the Lord Jesus, and Zion, both the nation and the city, will be restored. ( Isaiah 52:1; Isaiah 60:14). When Jesus returns to Earth, His rule will be from Jerusalem ( Zechariah 14:1-4; Luke 1:32,33). I hope you can see why Zion is so important & especially significant in God's Eyes as a special City of God (on Earth).
1. You qouted Jeremiah 31:34.
"They shall no more teach their brothers or their neighbors know the LORD...They shall ALL KNOW ME FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST..."
But does that literally mean that there is no need to be tought anything about Jesus because God's Spirit will do that Himself? Is that literal? Have we so far, for 2 th. years, seen something like that? Have you met any person, any church, that can claim that God tought him/them the Gospel personally? I haven't heard or read anything like that. As far something like that hasn't existed so far, it makes me believe that the above scripture must be interpeted in a different way.
2. Angels do not evangelize people. We don't see that anywhere in the NT. Remember the angel that was sent to Cornelious? He pointed out apostle Peter to him, he himself didn't say or teach anything about salvation. You are right about the angel in Revelation, but my belief is that he was send to evangelize people because after the rapture of the church just before the appearance of antichrist there will be no church to speak to people, and hence an angel will be sent together with the 2 prophets to do this task.
3. The New Covenant was made by God actually. But in any case that we have a covenant or a testament both sides involved must sign or accept it so it becomes valid. If either side do not accept it never becomes valid. God will never step back. So it is in man's hand to accept it or reject it. Some accept it and some, the most, reject it. If one rejects the salvation offered by God, will God eventually force him in Heaven? Sorry but I don't think so. If that was the case why do we bother to evangelize people? Stay home, God will do that. Why live a pure life and restrict ourselfs from the pleasures of sin, we will be saved anyway. Why the early christians threw themselves to the lions and fires and suffer so many persecutions if saved anyway?
With respect.
God bless you.
Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
2 Kings 2:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.
Jeremiah 31:19 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
Isaiah 42:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
Psalms 70:2 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward, and put to confusion, that desire my hurt.
Psalms 40:14 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and confounded together that seek after my soul to destroy it; let them be driven backward and put to shame that wish me evil.
Isaiah 1:29 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.
Psalms 35:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonour that magnify themselves against me.
Joel 2:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.
"Answer"
Salvation is life!
Salvation is a new creation in you performed by God.
Salvation is when "GOD TRANSFORM YOU" after you truly believing and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ. You have been transformed from dead to life. we're not perfect but we are transformed.
Here's a few old testament scripture that gives a description of salvation and how it's performed.
Deuteronomy 30:6. And the LORD thy God will CIRCUMCISE thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. "Here you see the lord cutting away filthy flesh from your heart."
vs. 8. " This is what God causes you to do after cutting away the "flesh".
"And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day."
Jeremiah 24:7.
Jeremiah 31:33-34.
Jeremiah 32:38-40.
"I like vs 40! Eternal Security found in the old testament!
( And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me)
Ezekiel 11:19.
Ezekiel 36:25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I CLEANSE YOU.
Ezekiel 36:26-27. "Salvation is a cleansing!"
Salvation is a transformation by Gods spirit in you, and that comes by way of Jesus.
New Testament references.
John 15:1-8.
John 10:27-29.
John 6:45.
Ephesians 2:1-10.
Philippians 1:6.
Colossians 3:10.
Romans 6:17-18.
God bless.
Salvation is life!
Salvation is a new creation in you performed by God.
Salvation is when "GOD TRANSFORM YOU" after you truly believing and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ. You have been transformed from dead to life. we're not perfect but we are transformed.
Here's a few old testament scripture that gives a description of salvation.
Deuteronomy 30:6. And the LORD thy God will CIRCUMCISE thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. "Here you see the lord cutting away filthy flesh from your heart."
vs. 8. " This is what God causes you to do after cutting away the "flesh".
"And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day."
Jeremiah 24:7.
Jeremiah 31:33-34.
Jeremiah 32:38-40.
Ezekiel 11:19.
Ezekiel 36:25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I CLEANSE YOU.
Ezekiel 36:26-27. "Salvation is a cleansing!"
Salvation is a transformation by Gods spirit in you, and that comes by way of Jesus.
New Testament references.
John 15:1-8.
John 10:27-29.
John 6:45.
Ephesians 2:1-10.
Philippians 1:6.
Colossians 3:10.
Romans 6:17-18.
I know this is a lot,
I pray you read over them.
God bless.
I'm not sure the emphasis is on Gods name.
The emphasis is on Gods possession in his people.
Exodus 4:22-23. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me:...
Also:
"Prophetic."
Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: FOR I AM A FATHER TO ISRAEL, and Ephraim is my firstborn. Jeremiah 31:8-9.
Israel was to be set apart.
Exodus 19:5.
2 Chronicles 7:10-16. And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.
Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.
And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
God bless.
Sorry my response took so long,
I've been getting off work late all this week.
Dan there is a difference in obeying Gods commandments by the power of the Holyspirit and Putting yourself under the law.
Luke 6:46-47. Is a condition AFTER you have received salvation. "Not an requirement! That rock is Christ, Not the Law!
And the verse you quoted is to Israel. So let's examine that.
Jeremiah 31:31-33. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
You noticed verse 32?
He said NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers. Why? "which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them." The Law was given to Israel fathers and they couldn't keep them.
When they, "Israel as a nation' come to Christ in the Millennium that will.
Just as his Church today!
Right now the Lord is calling out his Church and then he will deal with Israel.
Israel with God taking them by the hand as a husband to them and still coming up short was to drive us to Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:2-11. sums up this whole discussion.
Everything we obey "IS" by the Spirit of God. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.
God bless.
Sorry my response took so long,
I've been getting off work late all this week.
Dan there is a difference in obeying Gods commandments by the power of the Holyspirit and Putting yourself under the law.
Luke 6:46-47. Is a condition AFTER you have received salvation. "Not an requirement! That rock is Christ, Not the Law!
And the verse you quoted is to Israel. So let's examine that.
Jeremiah 31:31-33. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
You noticed verse 32?
He said NOT according to the covenant that I made with their fathers. Why? "which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them." The Law was given to Israel fathers and they couldn't keep them.
When they, "Israel as a nation' come to Christ in the Millennium that will.
Just as his Church today!
Right now the Lord is calling out his Church and then he will deal with Israel.
Israel with God taking them by the hand as a husband to them and still coming up short was to drive us to Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:2-11. sums up this whole discussion.
Everything we obey IS by the Spirit of God. Our righteousness is as filthy rags.
God bless.
John 10:1.
The first 12 verses is rectrospect 13 through 28 is judgement, redemption and restoration.
Here we see where God says he created Israel, he also redeemed Israel and he will restore them! This section of scripture proves God is not done with Israel as some the Church has replaced Israel in receiving the promises given in the Old Testament or the promises given to Israel is actually to the church and not Israel.
Look at these verses! Isaiah 43:24-25.
24) "Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities."
25) I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins." )
Verse 25 says a lot! God stake his Great name on the restoration of Israel!
See Jeremiah 31:34-37.
That restoration and redemption doesn't depend on Israels faithfulness
See Jeremiah 23:5-8.
Parallel these verses with Isaiah 43 and you will also discover the father and the son in the God head.
God bless
When Israel did right by the Lord he gave them rest and the spirit of the lord rested on the leaders! Numbers 11:25-29.
As a nation we've put together great writings on paper and we Identfied ourselves by these writings but we never accomplished what we have in writing. Sort of reminds you of Israel doesn't it? Actually Israel didn't just have the law written on skin, they had the Lord in their midst. But his laws wasn't written on there hearts! And this is the only geographical nation/Country that has been set apart by the Lord.
That ought to humble every other nation! God has raised up nations in the past to do his will and then judge that nation!
Habakkuk 1:5-6.
Jeremiah 25:11-12.
God used Assyria and Babylon to chastise Israel and turn the rod on them.
God raises up great kings to do his will!
Isaiah 45:1.
Ezekiel 29:18-20.
Pride goeth before destruction and an haulty spirit before a fall.
All these nations fell! Now Let's look at Israel. Ezekiel 16:48-50. Notice verses 49 and 50? You noticed God called sodom Israels sister! When God brought Israel out of Egypt God called them his son. He was a father and a husband to them. But they turned from God so at this point he's telling them they have the same father as Sodom, and we know who that is!
"He's not governing there heart" but there will come a time he will. Jeremiah 31:31-34. Noticed verse 33? He will put his law in their inward parts!
Looking at Israel and the way the Lord raised up nations and later judged them should humble us!
There will come a time when his nation will be taken out of the world and he will deal with all the worlds nations.
Joel 3:2.
So let's pray the lost people of ALL nations humble themselves and get on a tract they have NEVER been on.
God bless and goodnight.