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  • T Levis - In Reply on Matthew 25:34 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:31-46,

    Matthew 7,

    James 1:5, John 14:26, John 17, James 2:13-20, context James 2,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study
  • T Levis - In Reply on John 1 - 2 years ago
    Agreed,

    Scripture to back you

    Matthew 25:31-46, James 2:5-20, 1Timothy 6:6-12, James 1:27, Colossians 1:10, Hebrews 13:5, James 3:17,18, Jude 1,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Knowledge of Good and Evil: Analysis

    A day or two ago; I quoted Paul in Romans 7:9-11 where he stated that before he knew about sin it didn't have a hold on him but then now that he does it slayed him (my own rough translation). THe LAW of course was what caused the death sentence; as many of has have read that he who doesn't follow the law completely ( James 2:10) and breaks it in one area breaks it all.

    In looking at the garden and the tree of knowledge of good and evil it is good at first to examine what we can surmise about man (in this case Adam and Eve) in an innocent state; before the fall. In a sinless state; there would be no compulsion or even understanding of doing anything sinful and hence displeasing to God. Therefore man could have remained in this state of innocence had the tree of life been eaten at this time. Theoretically; since the tree of life HAD no restrictions on it they were free to eat it; but by Divine Providence they did not; because of God's foreknowledge that they were going to be fallen and that would put them in that state forever. The potential certainly existed in Adam and Eve much as it did with Satan in his glory as Lucifer in the beginning. Wisdom of knowing good from evil actually is something as Christians we need to pursue. To seek it for their own betterment or somehow because God was trying to cheat them out of something of course was the first wrong concept Satan was able to infest their minds with. This lack of trust in God led to them trusting themselves; and hence no doubt to TRUST Satan's lie was more to their benefit than their Creator's commands. Just how LONG this took isn't exactly clear for the fall to occur; just as with Satan. In Satan's case it certainly must have been quite a campaign to get that many angels to rebel that took some time.

    No doubt the knowledge of evil and the sin itself was already occuring at some point after the serpent's message was heard; heeded and followed through.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Predestination part 3. (eternal fate heaven or hell).

    When we are "conformed to the image of His Son" ( Romans 8:29) we see the concept of predestination and "first fruits" there; which would foreshadow a Rapture/Resurrection event. Another way to put it is that those who read the Beatitudes on a surface level or human level of understanding see a humanitarian sort of principle of for instance; how to be "peacemakers"; feed the poor; etc. ANYONE; even an atheist can do such things but it is only the Holiness of God through the Spirit after true conversion that gives us the reality of that in our souls. No amount of penance; self sacrifice or other actions can give us more of a desire for God's Holiness if it doesn't already exist in someone's soul! Nonetheless "faith without works is dead." ( James 2:17). Poducing fruit is essential for a true believer as we see with the Parable of the Sower and the seed.

    There are also various levels of suffering in hell as well as rewards in heaven. We see this in Matthew 11:20-24 with several cities in mind. Also we see this in Matthew 13:8 as to the 30 fold and 100 fold producers (also see 1 Cor. 15:41).

    I am fairly dogmatic as to those before the age of accountability not being punished for their sin NATURE since they haven't acted out the sin knowing that they are rebels against God. When we look at Romans 7:9-11; we understand this concept; and when we see the story of David and his son who died ( 2 Samuel 12:23) we see evidence of this amongst other places ( Psalm 8:2 for example).

    Another way of looking at is is the verse "we will not have this man to rule over us." ( Luke 19:14). This is what all say who go against the Man who God has given all authority to in heaven and earth ( Matt. 28:18). If we disbelieve the living Word ( Heb. 4:12 etal) then we reject His authority and preservation as well as 2 Timothy 3:16 which states all scripture is breathed of God..

    Or; Luke 10:16 rejecting you is rejecting me.
  • Ellix2u - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

    Believing seals you with the Holy Spirit

    Ephesians 1:13

    In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    And to address Jessie's point about the devil believing that is different from the faith we have in believing that Jesus died, was buried and rose again for the remission of our sins. Their belief is not a salvation belief.

    James 2:19

    "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    There are MANY clear verses that salvation is by faith aloneJesus paid it ALL even after we are saved we will still sin until we die from this flesh. And that is why we are to be as little children.it is easy to be saved even a small child can be saved.
  • Ryan W - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It goes back to what I keep saying lol. I don't understand why everyone doesn't get this: 2 Tim 3:16. But what comes before it?

    What comes before chapter 3? Chapter 2, and more specifically, 2 Tim 2:15. If we're going to study any of scripture, we must rightly divide it. In other words, we must study ***in light of the revelation of Jesus Christ, according to the mystery***.

    James 2 and Romans 4 are perfect examples. James 1:1 he is specifically talking to the Israel of God (the believing remnant that will "come out" in Jacob's Trouble).

    They "contradict each other" and that's perfectly ok. Why? Because both passages are written to different people during different dispensations. James 2: written to the remnant during Jacob's Trouble (the start of the dispensation of the kingdom) and written **for** our learning (but not our doctrine) and Romans 4: written to us in this dispensation of the grace of God (written to us and is our doctrine because we're under the mystery, the dispensation of the grace of God.)

    James is not apart of the Body of Christ. Nor is the writer of Hebrews. (Paul didn't write Hebrews - Heb 2:1).

    I don't understand why everyone is trying to correct me on something I've stated multiple times now.

    Me: 2 Tim 3:16 all scripture is for us but we have to rightly divide it 2 Tim 2:15

    You: Yeah but all scripture is for us.

    Me: ....yeah I know. You're at the half way mark. Not the finish line. I'm trying to help you open your eyes to truly understanding scripture. It would be wise to inquire the truth God's opened my eyes too. I'm trying to shew you a more excellent way: God's way, how he wants us to go to scripture today.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi David, I was wondering how you would explain that and reconcile what the Bible says with your belief.

    These verses are in context and contradict what you are claiming, but even though they're in context and you just click or hover over it to read the whole chapter or book you just dismissed it as not being in context.

    I noticed your response didn't have any Bible verses supporting your view.

    I believe in and stand by Jesus's words. It sounds like you're accusing Jesus of being about "works." You do so at your own risk. I will not be ashamed for believing in what Jesus says, even if people use all kinds of tricks to attack.

    Jesus: "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15

    You: No, don't obey, because that's works.

    Is that really your position that it's "bad" to obey Jesus, and "good" to not obey Jesus?

    If so, that sounds exactly like something satan would say. Such a clever deception to get people to believe its somehow bad to do good and good to do bad. As if God wants people to disobey Him!?

    Also I noticed you used the same straw man argument everyone else has been taught to use that if you want to follow Jesus then automatically you're trying to work towards heaven and there's no other possibility. I already said we're saved by grace, which seemed to be ignored. Of course I already answered this fallacy in advance, but maybe you didn't read it or did and claimed this fallacy anyway. Anyway, I feel a moral obligation to counter the lies on here and anyone claiming that its bad to follow and bad to obey Jesus is just is not speaking the truth. The Bible warns Christians of this throughout scripture.

    Matthew 7:21-23

    Hebrews 10:26

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    James 2:14-26

    Matthew 12:31-32

    Romans 14:12

    1 Peter 1:5

    1 Cor 9:24-27

    2 Peter 3:17

    Luke 8:5-18

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Hebrews 3:12

    Galatians 5:4

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear God, Father in Heaven, we lift up our eyes to You, Almighty God. You who know everything, and that we Your children can talk to You about all things. In prayer, praise and thanksgiving. Thank You for being close in thoughts, words and deeds. We lift up "Nabeta Besweri" in prayer to You Lord, we ask in the holy name of Jesus Christ that "Nabeta Besweri" have a normal life. And ar grateful for that. We also ask that You give "Nabeta Besweri" some good friends to talk to, share everyday problems with. We thank You Lord that You are close to us when we need You always, thank You in advance for answers to prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ we pray, Amen

    James 2:14-26 Stay strong in the word, love u in Christ and Merry Christmas
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, thanks for sharing but that's not what God says in His word.

    What scripture verse do you claim to be the source of your idea that faith is a result of salvation?

    And what scripture verse do you cite to claim that you're saved now before you're even judged?

    Paul said the one verse you're citing, but did you notice that Paul also warned ( 1 Cor 4:14) Christians to obey and not stray from the faith. God gives you that choice- he will allow you to commit despicable evil as we see people do every day, as is covered by the news. Christians also leave the faith, as evidenced by those we know in person and those forum groups like on Reddit where they talk about it. To deny this reality is to deny truth. Did God cause them to leave the faith? No, people did using their own freewill and bad choices. They will not be saved if they are not following Christ. Not all Christians will be "saved" on judgment day.

    I don't know if you believe in freewill or not, that God is forcing you to type things on this site you don't want to say of if you believe you are doing it. If God forces you to eat things you don't want to eat like Taco Bell or ice cream. But about freewill of course there's only one truth- either its true or not, not both. And its true for me, so are people claiming its not true for them? And is that God speaking through them that its not true or is that their own doing and how can they 100% prove they are not in control of their bodies whatsoever? Some may be deceived and use this as justification to sin against God and perhaps some may be dishonest about it.

    1 Cor 4:5 says to judge nothing before the Lord comes and then the Lord will then judge us, but people seem to like judging themselves as saved so some can then make excuses to disobey God.

    Romans 15:5 Paul says we need endurance. He warns us, says to endure, and 1 Corinthians 9:24 says to run the race so to win the prize. The refutes the popular narrative.

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.�
    Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, Matthew 7:21-23
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    You may be referring to Proverbs 25:20-21 "As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather, and as vinegar upon nitre, so is he that sings songs to an heavy heart," "If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty give him water to drink:" Proverbs 25:22 "For thou shall heap coals of fire upon his head, and LORD shall reward thee."

    Also James 2:15-17 "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone." + James 2:18-20 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one GOD; Thou doest well: The devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"

    Chris and Duncan gave great answers but I felt led to add these. Sometimes actions can lead to joy more than words.
  • Adam - In Reply on Acts 24 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    Luke 12:5

    John 14:15

    James 2:14-26

    Romans 6:1-2

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Matthew 12:31-32

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    Hebrews 3:12

    Romans 11

    The Bible answers this question quite clearly. Some are trying to use human logic through cherrypicking and misinterpreting a couple verses instead of simply believing God's truth through the whole Bible. Satan wants people to assume they have an insurance policy and license to commit unlimited sin and do whatever they want.

    Does the Bible even say you're instantly "saved" when you start to believe, or does it say that you can have hope of salvation and assurance of salvation if you are a genuine follower until the "end" on the day of judgment? Let's see if the Bible says "now" or in the "end"...

    Matthew 24:13

    "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

    1 Peter 1:5

    - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    1 Peter 1:13

    "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Hebrews 10:36

    "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Pt 3

    Also there is the spiritual gift of faith described in 1 Cor 12:8. But this kind of faith is for the benefit of all the congregation, like all the gifts. I believe we have all seen people in our congregations that they have such a strong faith and they communicate it to others when talking to them. Their faith is like a flame that propagates from man to man. You hear them talking and your faith goes up, you hear a specific preacher preaching and immediately you feel a fire(faith) burning inside you. It is a gift that God gives to some specific believers to increase the faith of the whole congregation. So there are many ways that God uses to increase our faith. So in general a proper christian life produces faith in believers. Like Ronald said we have to feed it, and a decent christian life feeds it. Then our light will shine to people, like the light of the 5 wise virgins. If we don't feed our faith/flame then it will go off and the darkness of sin will come in. So Faith is the basis where we built our christian lives. It is the foundation of our spiritual house. Believing in God's Words is the way God's Wisdom chose to save and make mankind rightous.

    Now about Demons believing in God as written in James 2:19, my thoughts are. An "active" faith produces works. Faith is something inside us. How does that show to other people? By works. If good works do not exist in ones life then their faith is considered dead. It still exists but it is stationary, dead. It is like it doesn't exist. In demons faith is simply a knowledge. There is no willing for salvation, for changing(assuming they were permitted to do so). But Jesus took human nature so His sacrifice is for humans, He didn't take angelic nature to sacrifice Himself for devils. Why not? Who knows, maybe God knows that devils will never repend, maybe they have blasphemied the Holly Spirit and they can not be forgiven. But all that is assumptions, God doesn't give us any information in His Word for that."
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Pt 3

    Also there is the spiritual gift of faith described in 1 Cor 12:8. But this kind of faith is for the benefit of all the congregation, like all the gifts. I believe we have all seen people in our congregations that they have such a strong faith and they communicate it to others when talking to them. Their faith is like a flame that propagates from man to man. You hear them talking and your faith goes up, you hear a specific preacher preaching and immediately you feel a fire(faith) burning inside you. It is a gift that God gives to some specific believers to increase the faith of the whole congregation. So there are many ways that God uses to increase our faith. So in general a proper christian life produces faith in believers. Like Ronald said we have to feed it, and a decent christian life feeds it. Then our light will shine to people, like the light of the 5 wise virgins. If we don't feed our faith/flame then it will go off and the darkness of sin will come in. So Faith is the basis where we built our christian lives. It is the foundation of our spiritual house. Believing in God's Words is the way God's Wisdom chose to save and make mankind rightous.

    Now about Demons believing in God as written in James 2:19, my thought are. An "active" faith produces works. Faith is something inside us. How does it shows to other people? By works. If good works do not exist in a ones life then their faith is considered dead. It still exists but it is stationary, dead. It is like it doesn't exist. In demons faith is simply a knowledge. Their is no willing for salvation, for changing(assuming they were permitted to do so). But Jesus took human nature so His sacrifice is for humans, He didn't take angelic nature to sacrifice Himself for devils. Why not? Who knows, maybe God knows that devils will never repend, maybe they have blasphemied the Holly Spirit and they can not be forgiven. But all that is assumptions, God doesn't give us any information in His Word for that.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi GIgi.

    Part 1.

    Great and important question Gigi!

    At the same time can get really confusing!

    There's what we call saving faith. We're saved by grace " Through faith". Ephesians 2:8. Here's an element of election with the faith being performed is actually supplied by the Spirit. It is obvious everyone is not supplied with it; however, the invite goes out to everyone. God knew who would believe.

    Is believing what it takes to initiate God's faith to the believer? Are they separate? Are they the same?

    Here's a few verses where believing is used in the Bible. It's obvious when it comes to salvation It's "what" you believe not just believing in God as seen here in James 2:19.

    And then we have John 6:28-28 and Romans 10:9-10 Where belief is directed towards something specific.

    God given faith is a fruit and is accompanied with other fruit.

    There are results in God given faith as seen here in James 2:14-18.

    Faith is not trusting in something! It's trusting in someone and that's the Lord.

    Believing is not believing in something It's believing on someone and that's the Lord. We are to believe on the promise given to Abraham as mentioned here in Galatians 3:16-22. We are heirs of the promise by faith as Isaac as mentioned in Galatians 4:28.

    We are given a promise by God and given faith to believe in that promise.

    The invitation goes out to all as mentioned in 1 John 2:2.

    Everyone is given the ability to comprehend that light as mentioned in John 1:4-8. "But all will not"

    A person has to fall upon that rock and know he needs a savior.

    This is where the 10 commandments come into play. The commandments were meant to drive one to Christ. Some from out of darkness and some from dead works.

    Part 2 an article from J Vernon Mcgee.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey GiGi,

    As a simple man, my understanding of faith is based on belief, trust, obedience, and thanksgiving, from our mind to our heart, a relationship offered by God through the sacrifice and resurrection of His Son Jesus, and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    Faith is a responsibility likened to marriage referred to many times in the bible. Our commitment and love are shown by our actions, which come from our hearts to our hands as in James 2:14-17 which is sometimes misunderstood as works for salvation.

    This faith is a gift we have been given, its growth is dependent on how it is fed. Jesus said faith as small as a mustard seed can move a mountain, that shows how large it can grow in the word of God and prayer. We can sometimes hinder its growth as said in Col. 2:8 following the majority down the wide road when the truth is down the path that has grown up from the lack of traffic.

    It will be tried, we have been told we will be tempted and will have tribulation in this world that many say we will be spared, John 16:33 Acts 14:22, but that builds patience, James 1:3. We see we will need if we are here, we will need in the great tribulation Rev. 13:10.

    The growth of our faith is to add "virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity' 2 Peter 1:4-8.

    This may not be what you are looking for but just my thoughts.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Rodney. I can't think of a specific Scripture pertaining to a "deathbed salvation", though I'm sure there would have been instances in the ministry of the Apostles & the Churches where convicted souls would have confessed Jesus in their final moments.

    I could suggest the thief on his cross who turned to Jesus & asked, "Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom" ( Luke 23:42). Even though the thief's salvation was still under the Old Testament period (for Jesus had not died & arisen as yet), we do see both the thief's sorrow for his sins, belief that Jesus was the One from God, & Jesus' response that after this man's death, he would enter "paradise" (v43).

    So, in this instance there is no evidence of works manifesting from faith, as death soon followed this sinner's plea. But to those of us who have been given more time on Earth, the faith given to us by Christ's Spirit, must bring forth evidence of its reality, if it's ever to be believed as from God ( James 2:26).
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you S Spencer for your detailed reply.

    Regarding worship there seems to be many Christians who assume its bad to put effort into anything or be obedient or do anything active towards living as a Christian, because they believe its 'works' and they've been taught that all works is 'bad' despite scripture like James 2:26. I believe they think that Christians are on autopilot as the holy spirit leads them, that their name is already in the book of life and that their actions don't even matter anymore. And if they don't feel a deliberate force (such as the holy spirit) making them worship God, then they won't. If they feel a 'force' instead directs them to go to an adult nightclub and engage in sin they may do that instead, however, even if that 'force' is mistaken for temptation from satan. But some who identify as Christians believe they no longer have freewill to sin, despite verses like Rom 3:10. Some assume that even if they sin by the world's standards that not really sin according to God, therefore they shouldn't have any concerns about it whatsoever, despite Luke 12:5.

    Given this belief, does God want worship to be a deliberate choice? Is it a command we as Christians must continue to do daily as a 'sacrifice of praise', or is it something just here and there to consider doing if convenient, or should we do absolutely nothing and 100% trust a spiritual force to direct us if we ever need to worship God?
  • Adam - In Reply on Proverbs 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello, laws are laws too, but also have very different degrees of severity from accidental theft to mass murder. In a court of law, assuming no political bias, if judges are honest they will punish one way more severely than the other.

    I see no evidence that God views sin differently. Sin is sin, but sins are likewise very different in severity. Some who love sin may be incentivized to say something like "sin is sin" to try to downplay their own sins and disgrace to God.

    I couldn't find any verses saying that all sins are the same, but found verses saying sins are different:

    John 19:11

    Also, Jesus clearly says that all sins can be forgiven except for one and if you commit that sin then you will NOT be forgiven. Matthew 12:31-32 So violating this seems to be a fast ticket to hell. In this age of assumed self-righteousness and hatred towards Jesus, this should be a wake up call and deeply scare some people.

    In Proverbs 6:16-19 God lists 6 sins He hates. This again, is another list separate from other sins.

    Already in these 3 verses we see different treatment of sin in terms of severity, so it would seem hard to conclude that mass murder is exactly the same as telling a white lie. God already tells us through these verses there is a difference.

    Some assume that James 2:10 suggests that all sin is the same, but that's not what it says. Those who by works try to be perfect and fulfill the "whole law" are going to fail, and even if someone violates 1 law of 1000 laws, for instance, someone obeying 99.9% of the law still is not fulfilling the "whole law" of 100% and is thus a sinner. This verse doesn't say all sins are exactly the same, but is about being a transgressor and not keeping the whole law.

    If anyone has any verses in the Bible saying "all sins are exactly the same" then we can look into this more, but I am not aware of any such verse in the Bible.

    2 Corinthians 5:10 is another verse on this topic.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    Matthew 7:21-23

    "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

    1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."

    Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

    "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12

    "Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10

    Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

    2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

    "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." Matthew 10:22

    "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13

    "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Mark 13:13 KJV
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi James.

    When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.

    I wouldn't put it that way by no means.

    Here's Law.

    The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.

    And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.

    The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.

    Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.

    ( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)

    The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"

    2 Corinthians 3:7-16.

    It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.

    Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.

    Also.

    Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.

    For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13

    Romans 6:1-23.

    James 2:18.

    Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.

    If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.

    There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    James 2:14
  • Ronnette Part 2 Galatians 1 Only God can explain this well.Glory to God! on Galatians 1:16 - 2 years ago
    Galatians 1:19 Paul did not see any other apostles but James the brother of Jesus. Now read on and absorbed what God revealed to us. There is a reason why this verse is important. Other Scholars said that the Book of James was written by James the brother of Jesus. How could that be? The message in James was that faith without works is dead James 2:20 & James 2:26. How can you explained the opposition on Pauls messages Ephesians 2:8-9? It is because the author of James is James the brother of John the sons of Zebedee. That James was killed by King Herod Acts 12:2 about 44 AD or CE. He was not seen by Paul after Paul went to Arabia. That James had written the book of James before James died to tell the 12 tribes what is about to happened in the tribulation ( my opinion after the church age will be raptured) James 1:1. If this was written by James the brother of Jesus, he would have not contradicted what he heard from Paul because he saw Paul right after Paul went to Arabia Galatians 1:17-19. The second part of 2 Timothy 2:15 we are not ashamed to tell all that we must rightly divide the word of truth. Know the physical and spiritual messages of God. It is only revealed when you trust Jesus and not yourself. If you do not rightly divide you will be confuse of your salvation. We are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. Amazing God we have. I glorify God by telling you this revelation. I please only God and not men. My life is a true testament of God's glory. Who has the mind of God Romans 11:33-36, 1 Corinthians 2:15-16. My brothers and sisters in Christ, if you are a leader in church, let the Spirit of God speaks to you..Take, I pray thee, my blessing that is brought to thee; because God hath dealt graciously with me, and because I have enough. And he urged him, and he took it. Genesis 33:11. But he said, As the LORD liveth, before whom I stand, I will receive none. And he urged him to take it; but he refused.

    Galatians 1:4-5 Amen. Galatians 1:3.
  • Chris - In Reply on James 5 - 2 years ago
    Certainly, man cannot be the judge of another's salvation, because we don't see or know what God sees & knows. If I might direct you to Acts 1:13 (James with the others were gathered in an upper room for prayer, etc.); Galatians 1:19 (James was an apostle); Acts 15:13-21 (James was a member of the Jerusalem Council); James 2:1 ("My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons": and this verse shows us that James had put his trust in Jesus & this epistle was to his 'brethren', the believing Jews who were scattered, living in other lands). In my understanding, James appears to have the same spiritual awakening & expression of faith in Jesus, as any of the other apostles. Do you see a problem here?
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Stacie. The questions you ask require much input, but I would firstly direct you to 1 Peter chapter 1 for your meditation. And especially verses 1 & 2, where the Apostle Peter writes to the believers in Asia Minor as to why God has caused them to be part of the Elect (or, chosen) of God.

    They were not chosen randomly, some to be saved & others rejected, but chosen because of what God knew about them. God knew even before we were born, how our lives would pan out, our younger years, our careers, our struggles in life & even the day of our death. So they, & us, are the chosen of God because of His Foreknowledge (He is an Omniscient God): knowledge of how we will respond to Him & the Gospel. And Peter says that this foreknowledge of God involved the sinner being cleansed by Christ's shed Blood at Calvary & the sanctifying (setting apart) Work of the Holy Spirit. So knowing all this, there are certain people who have been ordained to receive God's Salvation & others who are not. And God also knew the ones who would not receive salvation because He knew they would reject the Gospel, or if they never heard it, they would still never accept Christ. The ones that God knows will belong to Him, will all come to Him - none will be rejected, as if to catch God by surprise. And Peter then gives these chosen ones the assurance in verses 4 & 5: those who are Christ's, have an incorruptible inheritance reserved in Heaven & while we're still on Earth, we will be kept secure in our salvation by "the power of God through faith" when salvation's full work is completed "in the last time (the day when we see Jesus & be with Him forever)".

    So, those who are truly God's children (born again by His Spirit), will lead careful holy lives (see the rest of that chapter on this) - we can't, nay, can never fool around with God by leading double lives. It only proves we never belonged to God. Many believe in God, even as the devils do & tremble ( James 2:19), but that belief won't save them.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I see that there may be a confusion between a gift and a reward. A Gift is something given voluntarily without any expectation of a return; usually given out of love or deep concern. A Reward is something given to recompense or requite someone for some hard work, acknowledging an achievement, or meritorious act.

    If the salvation of God to mankind required that man do a worthy work to gain it, then it would be God's reward for our efforts. If then it is our efforts to gain this gift of salvation, it would make our efforts of greater worth than what Jesus achieved, thus nullifying His Sacrifice for us. We can never hope to be able to do anything or contribute anything that would make Jesus' Sacrifice more effective.

    Therefore, Salvation must be a Gift & not a Reward. Sinners certainly can't do anything to gain a reward from God, for "all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags" ( Isaiah 64:6), in God's Sight. And for this reason, God had to step in to help the sinner in his predicament, drowning in his sin, on his way to judgement for it. God's love could only bestow upon the sinner a Gift, undeserved & unmerited by us. It came without any conditions, just to receive it with grateful repentant hearts, with joy that our sins are fully paid for & dealt with. But if God left it there, we might be thankful for His Gift of Salvation, but have no power & convictions over the enemy that ever lurks to make us reprobates before God by compelling acts of sin.

    Thus the Holy Spirit was sent as part of that Divine Gift, Who ensures that these redeemed lives remain true to God, living lives in the power of the Spirit. And yes, faith & salvation must now produce good works because of the Spirit's Presence & enabling, or else James 2:14 becomes very valid, 'can faith without works save him?' Salvation is the Gift from God - Works is our response - the two must go hand-in-hand - but Salvation stands alone as a Gift from God, apart from works or else it's no longer a gift.
  • Me - 2 years ago
    Ok, you say salvation is a gift. You also receive gifts in life, right? From your parents, teachers, supervisor, ect. But you still have to work in order to receive them. I have never known a student who did not study, stay up all night drinking and partying. At the end of the year he graduated.... Please put your thinking hats on, Faith without Works are dead and Works without Faith is dead... James 2:14-26
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    James 2:13-16
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Please note these scriptures all seem to include treatment of people : James 2, note James 2:1-6, James 2:8, * James 2:14,15,16,17,

    Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 58, John 13:34, Romans 12:10, Romans 13:8, 1Peter 3:8, Hebrews 10:24,

    Romans 4, notice in those 'works' it's speaking of circumcision Romans 4:1, Romans 4:9-13, not acts of compassion

    They don't contradict each other they're completely separate issues, Deuteronomy 10:16-20,

    Malachi 3:5,10 = Deuteronomy 26:10-13 , Exodus 22:22, Deuteronomy 14:22-29, Deuteronomy 24:14-15, Deuteronomy 24:19-21,

    Matthew 5:16-20, Matthew 7:12-27 = Mark 12:38-40, Mark 23, Luke 20:46,47, Isaiah 9:17,

    Hopefully helpful
  • Mark Slaney - 2 years ago
    Free Grace vs Lordship Salvation

    Do you believe in free grace opposed to lordship salvation? That is faith without works is dead ( James 2:26) only in THE EYES of MEN, not in the eyes of God. In this case, works would not provide evidence of faith. We have to look closely at what James is saying. If he does not contradict Paul ( Romans 4:5), no works must be needed as a result of faith alone. Otherwise it is not faith alone.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Derek, we are all sinners, even the born-again are sinners saved by grace. Romans 3:23,24 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

    There's nothing we can do to EARN righteousness. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." The only righteousness God sees in you is the blood of Jesus.

    However, when we are born again, Jesus calls us to do the works of His will. James 2:17

    "Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

    What are those works? Jesus said in John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." Do what he did on earth such as is possible for a person to do. That is, minister unto others when God points out someone's need. Pray for yourself, and for others. Read and study your Bible, and heed whatever the Holy Spirit tells you to do.

    God Bless!


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