Israel is the earth, the dry land, with its great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, yeah, Israel, the earth, was and is ALSO dominated by unclean spirits like frogs, which infested the nation of idolatries, and wichcraft, and idolaters and spiritist peoples or esoteric and kabbalistic peoples that follow the kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and Israel is waiting their messiah who must manifest himself soon (he was born decades ago), and he will be one of the heads of the monstrous and satanic Antichrist's Empire together the Beast of sea- Daniel 2:v.40 to 43:
v.40 - And the fourth kingdom(that is, the Roman Empire-Gentile peoples) shall be strong as iron, forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it (the Roman Empire) break in pieces and bruise.
v.41 - And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes(the feet -two foot- and the 10 toes of statue), part of potters' clay(God is the Potter of clay. The clay is Israel, says the Word of God- Isaiah 64:v.8), and part of iron(Roman Empire), the kingdom shall be divided (evidently); but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron(Roman Empire), forasmuch as thou sawest the iron(Roman Empire) mixed with miry clay(clay is Israel- Isaiah 64:v.8).
v.42 - And as the toes (10 toes) of the feet(two foot) were part of iron(Roman Empire), and part of clay(Israel or Jewish), so the kingdom shall be partly strong(Roman Empire), and partly broken(weaker).
v.43 - And whereas thou sawest iron(Roman Empire) mixed with miry clay(Israel), they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men (many nations, Gentile peoples- Revelation 11:v.2): but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron(Roman Empire-Gentile peoples) is not mixed with clay(Jewish people - Israel).
Be careful, or get ready
WHO IS PREPARED FOR THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON AGAINST THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS WHICH DOMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD AND GUIDE AND RULE ALL THE NATIONS?
The main events before the beginning of the last week of Dan.9:27.
See below what will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here goes the events that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Dan.9:27:
- Death of Pope Francis, the rule and guide of the powerfull religious MONSTER of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns(10 kings) ten crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy.-Vicarius Filli Dei;
- The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(earth is Israel-the clay- Isaiah 64:v.8-the dry land- Genesis 1:v.9);
- Election of the a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII(Rev.17:10);
- Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;
- The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15;
- The Pope Paulus VII will meet the Beast like lamb;
- Both will develop an union between the RCC and Judaism, iron with clay- Dan. 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay;
- A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders-Rev.11:1-2;
- The esoteric and kabbalistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews- will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,and the Beast of earth,the false messaiah-AN IMPOSTOR-will give to the Beast of sea his Power,and his Throne, and great Authority.Then,the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;
All events listed above,some will will happen before starting the last week-Dan.9:27,for example,the death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts,and others in the middle of the week and until the consumation.
1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2 Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.
3 Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Isaiah 29:16
Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Isaiah 64:8
But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (Read the chapter)
Mishael comment: I know in prophesy that Israel is the clay, but so are we.
The Lord is always working on us. In Isaiah 29:16, have you ever felt yourself being molded, pinched, a lump sliced off; and you almost cried, Lord what are You doing?
Ever felt like you were baking in the fire of Gods Love, for you?
Sometimes I wonder, "what is it (me) going to look like when you are finished with this piece?"
1 Thessalonians 5:11
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
Romans 14:19
Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
To Janet. This is Wesleys commentary on this scripture. You can find the Commentary Section by entering your book, chapter, verse in the SEARCH BOX and hit the arrow.
Wesley's Notes for Exodus 34:10
34:10 Behold I make a covenant - When the covenant was broke, it was Israel that broke it; now it comes to be renewed, it is God that makes it. If there be quarrels, we must bear all the blame; if there be peace, God must have all the glory. Before all thy people I will do marvels - Such as the drying up of Jordan, the standing still of the sun. Marvels indeed, for they were without precedent, such as have not been done in all the earth; the people shall see, and own the work of the Lord; and they were the terror of their enemies: it is a terrible thing that I will do.
My comment: Israel got right with God and he enabled them to destroy their enemies and chase them out. They became a terror ...
Try word Searching the word TERROR and see if other verses are in the Bible?
It's always interesting to me to read the other verses on the same subject.
Part 1 some scriptures concerning the Grace of God on Acts 1 - 3 years ago
"But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by washing of regeneration of the Holy Ghost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to eternal life" Titus 3:4-7
"In keeping of them is great reward" Psalms 19:11
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just and good" Romans 7:12
"the law is spiritual" Romans 7:14
"Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4
"Cursed is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10
"weak through the flesh" Romans 8:3
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20
"having no hope, and without God in the world" Ephesians 2:12
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all of our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" Isaiah 64:6
"We have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one...There is no fear of God before there eyes...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:9-23
"the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" Romans 1:18
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off" Romans 11:22
You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.
Our righteousness don't purify the heart
Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list
Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.
""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..
You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Job even disagrees with you:
Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.
If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
Good information, Chris. Brings to mind 2 Corinthians 11:3 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."
Hi Richard, if one looks at this 'Serpent Seed' doctrine, we see that this nothing new. This teaching was seen in the Gnostic writings, chiefly the Gospel of Philip. The early Church father, Irenaeus, was aware of this teaching which he declared as heresy. But it continued to be seen, & in more recent times given more exposure by the likes of some American religious leaders (Daniel Parker, William Branham, & Arnold Murray). Even some adherents to the white supremacist theology (called, Christian Identity) make a claim that the Jews are descended from the serpent.
This is not the place to denounce these people but I was truly concerned about this teaching (& other non-Scriptural ones) that has been going over the centuries, where even women were blamed for causing men to sin (probably because of Eve's relationship to Satan), that Cain's descendants were masquerading as scientists & the educated, & in Branham's case, that he was a reincarnation of John the Baptist coming to herald the return of the Lord Jesus. Branham died in 1965 & we still wait.
So I get very grieved for folk who willingly fall for false teaching & absurdities, seeking in their zeal to learn more of God's Mind in the Bible, but are forced to re-interpret Scripture to fill in the missing links. As I've always maintained, the Bible must be read in its proper, natural way, intended way. When there are allegories, parables or image depictions given, then usually a clear understanding is also given with it. Where no information is given or something is hidden, then it needs to remain so. The problem arises when that which is "hidden or obscure" is then given 'new light' which often remains incompatible with the rest of Scripture. And then in reality, this becomes another Word of (or, from) God, & so we end up with a proliferation of teaching that is not only foreign to the Holy Word, but also becomes another tool from Satan to divert the seeking soul away from Truth & into judgement.
Genealogies and False Teachers Prophets - In Reply on Isaiah 64 - 4 years ago
Thank you, Richard.
I choose to stand on what is stated in Revelation 22:18-19. Most arguments seem to come from not accepting what has been written down: genealogy proofs that God has faithfully recorded. I think God knew people would try to twist the Genealogies to suit their false teaching.
I hope I'm not stepping on Mishael's feet but just felt to post, a couple things, on the conversation you were having. So as you say "provide evidence" Genesis 4:1 is all I can give you. As along with in Genesis 4:25 Adam "knew" his wife and bore a son. About how you state "fruit" means "sex", or how you perceive it, just does not fit for me. Clearly they are speaking of eating fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. That God told them not to eat lest they will surely die. What about when the "serpent" says to Eve "Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Then she replies to him about eating fruit of the garden just not of the "certain" tree. Genesis 3:1-3. I can't see mixing this up with Eve having intercourse with(if that's what you portray) the "serpent". And about saying the genealogy would be wrong if Cain was Eve's first is incorrect. It would be the same as genealogies go off the "children of". As Cain has his own genealogy.
I guess one other thing I can state is in the Book of Enoch. Enoch was taken, on a tour, and actually was shown the Tree of Knowledge in a garden. A tree with fruit. I know not a lot of people believe in the Book of Enoch but I find many things in it that connect directly to our Holy Bible.
Maybe this whole thing with the "serpent seed" is really just a way to say someone is still living a very sinful and godless lifestyle. Which I would just categorize someone who has not been saved by Jesus Christ yet or still stuck in the "world". And I believe the Lord can save anyone, even the most wretched person. Instead of saying someone is of "serpent seed" I'd rather just say they haven't been saved yet or are not with the Lord. The whole "serpent seed" story was made up by someone and can not be proven. Just as many other things cannot be proven.
I'll stop here. God Bless you Hugo. Please don't take this harshly.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to respond in detail to what I wrote. Please do not for a moment consider that I think I know more than another brother. That is certainly not what I was in any way implying.
Please provide evidence that Cain is recorded as Adam's firstborn. I have never seen this in the Bible. The genealogy of Adam goes through Seth very clearly. (This is of course because Abel was killed, and because Cain was not Adam's son) Also in Jude 1:14 (And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these...) the Bible would be wrong if Cain was Adam's son because then Enoch would have been the eighth, not seventh.
Please provide evidence that I am fixated on nakedness, wantoness, adultery and covering sex organs. I was simply responding to another brother's question. Nor do I remember having mentioned sex before in any of the 30-odd comments I have been able to make on this Godly discussion board.
You write "The entire Bible is about Jesus: Genesis to the last verse in Revelation". God bless you for knowing that. It is certainly true. Amen. Notice what our Lord said to the Pharisees in John chapter 8: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. /// Jesus is telling the Pharisees that they are like the children of the serpent seed (Cain's line). The Pharisees reply that they are not born of fornication (No, they are not like the children of the serpent who fornicated with Eve). This is just one example of the many Many MANY references to the serpent seed found throughtout the Bible.
Dear brother, if you would like to grow even more in your loving understanding of our Lord's purpose for us, please do consider reading up about the serpent seed doctrine.
God bless you brother Adam; nice to be able to respond to you again.
By the mercy of God I have been able to live a Christian life for about 12 years now, and have been believing in the doctrine of the Serpent Seed for all of those years. I have not found anything unscriptural about it; in contrast, it perfectly dove-tails with the rest of the Bible, which is how I know it to be accurate.
Other ideas about the fall of man will not be able to dove-tail with the rest of Scripture. For example: if eating a literal fruit caused sin then why did God require blood as a sacrifice for sin?
If you would like to have an even deeper understanding of God's wonderful plan and purpose in Christ, consider reading up about the doctrine of the serpent seed which has unfortunately been lost to the mainstream Christians.
Re: Hell. In the Bible the words used for Hell can be applied to both grave & a place of torment. In Genesis 37:35 we see the word 'Sheol' used. In Luke 16:23, Hades is used. Both words can be depicted as Hell, but its application calls for one being a grave & the other, a place of torment. As also with 'Gehenna': it may have had its roots in the Valley of Hinnom where the atrocities of human burning took place, but in Scripture ( Matthew 5:22, Luke 12:5) & references in Revelation 19,20 clearly speaks of a place other than that near Jerusalem where eternal torment of those judged unworthy to partake of God's Kingdom. I've only given a few Scriptures on this for want of space.
And yes, Jesus was in the grave (sepulchre, 'mnemeion') for three days before appearing to Mary. Blessings.
Thank you Al for your comments. I do understand what you're saying here & there are subjects in the Bible that are not given full treatment as we would like - maybe for a reason. In 1 Thessalonians 5:23, Paul prayed for the believers, "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ". For some reason, Paul thought to include their complete being in his prayer ("spirit, soul & body") & clearly of the three, the body is what is apparent to us & others, & Jesus also expressed in Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell". Now these Scriptures don't show the passage of the spirit after death, but to show that man does have a soul & spirit & the body is the visible vessel in which these abide.
1 Cor 15:50 speaks of the impossibility of man in his mortal body to enter Heaven. But when that body is changed from being in a corrupt state to an incorrupt state, then it will be outfitted for Heaven. Verses 52, 53 show that that which is corruptible will be raised incorruptible, for corruption must put on incorruption & mortal put on immortality. If the word "sleep", a euphemism for 'death', is applied to a body devoid of soul & spirit (i.e. the soul disappears altogether & the spirit (breath) returns to God) then what is the purpose for the resurrection of a body from the grave that is devoid of further life? But if God gives it life, where does it come from? Is this life from the grave of a different personality to the former?
How do you discern truth from a lie? Have you prayed to God and asked if what you said about Eve and satan is true? Because it's not in the Bible and if it's not there, where else would it come from? Definitely doesn't come from God, but since satan is the father of lies and spreads falsehoods regularly, how can you be 100% sure you haven't been deceived yourself?
Sir, there are over 4,000 promises in the Bible yet nobody has yet found the one that says your soul will go to Heaven upon death of the body....or the other way around, to hell at death.....actually sir, the Bible says you are a soul, combination of body and spirit or "breath of life"....it has been twisted to try and prove we go somewhere after death.....however the Bible says over and over we shall sleep until the second coming....check it in 1 Cor. 15;50....when you die, the soul is no longer in existence and the spirit, or breath returns to God, "who gave it".....every spirit returns....
Also, we must search deep to get to the truths revealed therein ......when was this burning hell created?.....which of the six days?......and God saw that they were good.....answer, it was not created yet.....the words used for hell refer to the grave, Gehenna a literal place on earth and one work tartaroo that refers to angels only....it's all there if you want to really learn what is being taught....
Many have the wrong idea about where Jesus went after he was crucified....he went to the grave for three days....take time to look up John 20 verse 17....."Touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father"....this was 3 days after he died....OK, enough for now....stay safe Sir
Rightly Divide the Word of Truth - In Reply on Isaiah 64 - 4 years ago
I hope you know that most of us know the Book of Genesis, also. Much of what you posted is unscriptural.
If you read it at a snails speed, you might see your errors.
Your allegations about Eve having sex with anyone other than her husband (whom to God performed the first marriage), Is also unscriptural. Try reading all of the Geneologies. Cain is recorded as Adams firstborn.
Isaiah 14:12-16 (description of satan)
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. (Suit of worms)
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 THEY THAT SEE THEE shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (devil) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
No offense intended, but I find your fixation on nakedness, wantoness, adultery and covering sex organs, shocking.
The entire Bible is about Jesus: Genesis to the last verse in Revelation. In fact, Revelation 22:18-19, tells us NOT TO ADD TO or, TO TAKE AWAY FROM, anything written in the Bible. To persist will get your part taken out of the Book of Life.
I'll end with this scripture:
Acts 19:15
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?
Though there are many Scriptures to support the after life & into eternity with God, there are very few that can fully support the immediate passage of the spirit & soul after death takes its grip. Clear portions, as Mishael has showed, about the penitent thief & Lazarus are often used & I would add to his list: 2 Corinthians 5:1-8. Herein, we see Paul's hope that when his "earthly tabernacle is dissolved" (or, passed away in death), God will provide a heavenly one. In fact, he says that he is confident (convinced) that while we're in this body on Earth, thus we're absent from the Lord. Rather, his desire was to be absent from his body (leave his mortal body behind at death), & be found in the Lord's presence. To me, these verses & those others given, show that at death, the spirit that cannot be destroyed by death does not linger aimlessly near a grave or under water, but returns to God Who gave it. For those who've rejected Christ, their spirits too are held captive awaiting coming judgement.
All people can ONLY be saved by FAITH: faith being the implicit trust & looking to God to save them though not having seen Him. For the Jew, they received the Law from God & though none could fully obey its demands, it served to show them there sin, the need for sacrifice & of course, a faith that looked only to God & looked forward to God to provide a better Sacrifice. Most Jews didn't do this, though some did ( Hebrews 11) but God is the Judge of their hearts. For those without the Law (Gentiles), the laws written within us condemned us ( Romans 2:12-16) & we have to stand before God on that basis &/or the rejection of God's Sacrifice. "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name" ( John 1:12). And of course, we receive Him only by faith, not by works or sacrifice.
I can't answer your last question; it must be something wired in us to know what & where 'our shame' (our less honourable) body parts are.
I respond to you question about how Eve knew which parts of her body to cover.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a symbol for sin/unbelief. The serpent (which was an upright walking creature between human and animal) seduced Eve to eat from the tree. The euphemism of the "fruit" is a symbol for sex. The serpent had sex with Eve. She took this "fruit" to Adam, and they ate. Afterwards they knew they were naked because of the effect of the lust. Therefore they made garment of leaves to cover their sexual organs. Later Eve bore the children. Cain was the son of the serpent. Abel was the son of Adam.
For more on this topic you can research the doctrine of the Serpent's Seed.
Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell. Scripture does not support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "Sheol." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The King James translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. Hades had two separated parts. Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, or eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in Abraham's Bosom, which was called "paradise" by the LORD Jesus Christ when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "hell" here is not the Greek word "hades" but is the Greek word "tartarus" meaning abyss or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the place of torment and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive refers to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring victor
Where does the bible promise you that your soul will go to Heaven when you die? or conversely that a soul will go to hell when the wicked die? How were people saved before there was a savior?....how did Eve know what part(s) or her body to cover with fig leaves?...thank you
Hi Josef. I'm glad the points were helpful to you, but I have to restate, that what I said about the RC Church (re: idolatry, Mary worship, etc.) were things that were wrong at that Church. So when you wrote "the Pope is infallible & is Christ's representative on Earth", I had listed that as being wrong. The Pope is only a man, elected to be so by the RC hierarchy & considered to be infallible (i.e. he cannot sin or say or do any wrong). The Pope, like us, is sinful & we all have to be saved through faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ at the Cross. So please correct your notes, in this respect at least.
The thing that makes Christianity not a religion is that it is the only one that claims, & enjoys, a personal relationship to God & His Son Jesus Christ. There is no other religion that can make claim to this, as to them God is unknowable & too distant away & anything we do in this life, good or bad, will go to our account in our last days. This is not the teaching of Christ. We can do absolutely nothing to please God - we're all filthy with sin ( Isaiah 64:6) & a filthy person cannot make himself clean. He needs someone Pure to do it. So it was God, through His Son Jesus, Who did it for us & through this act of great Love, brought all those who believe in Him to a new relationship with Him. Now we can know this God of Love because He has willed this to happen by bringing us into the brotherhood of His Son, Whom He loves. Read John chapter 17. Islam believes that a person's deeds are weighed by the angels sitting above each shoulder & therefore one's destiny is finally given, but Jesus Christ through His death & resurrection gives us certainty that those who come by faith will be saved from Hell & it won't be dependent on what we try to do to clean ourselves up. Any good works we do won't be acceptable to God - Christ's Blood alone was the acceptable sacrifice to God.
Wendall, may the Spirit grace you with understanding, the scriptures referring to the leaves of the tree are in Isaiah 6 and Ezekiel 47 and Revelation 22. These are prophesies about the Sons of God (us). Christ is the Tree of Life; therefore, we also become trees (of life). John 15: Abide in me and I in you. At our physical death we (children or the resurrection) shall put on Christ (BECOME ONE). 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 ......the saints shall judge the world......know ye not that we shall judge angels... the leaves (us) of the TREE (Christ) shall be for the healing of the nations (all mankind).
Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the saviour of all men, specially those that believe.
1 Corinthians 2:9 For it is written ( Isaiah 64:4), Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart (mind) of man, the things God hath prepared for them that love him.
Wendall, the Spirit of understanding be upon you, the verses you are inquiring about are in Isaiah 6 and Ezekiel 47 and Revelation 22. Christ is the Tree of Life; however, when we depart this flesh and are one with Christ we also become trees (of life) and will judge the world and angels and our leaves will be for the healing of the nations. May the Spirit grace you with understanding. 1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written ( Isaiah 64:4), Eye hath not seen. nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart (mind) of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. GBU
Remember to keep to the context of the verses; Not every word written by God is for you at the moment. Understand the meaning by who wrote it, at what time and in response to what.
Israel is the earth, the dry land, with its great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, yeah, Israel, the earth, was and is ALSO dominated by unclean spirits like frogs, which infested the nation of idolatries, and wichcraft, and idolaters and spiritist peoples or esoteric and kabbalistic peoples that follow the kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, and Israel is waiting their messiah who must manifest himself soon (he was born decades ago), and he will be one of the heads of the monstrous and satanic Antichrist's Empire together the Beast of sea- Daniel 2:v.40 to 43:
v.40 - And the fourth kingdom(that is, the Roman Empire-Gentile peoples) shall be strong as iron, forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it (the Roman Empire) break in pieces and bruise.
v.41 - And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes(the feet -two foot- and the 10 toes of statue), part of potters' clay(God is the Potter of clay. The clay is Israel, says the Word of God- Isaiah 64:v.8), and part of iron(Roman Empire), the kingdom shall be divided (evidently); but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron(Roman Empire), forasmuch as thou sawest the iron(Roman Empire) mixed with miry clay(clay is Israel- Isaiah 64:v.8).
v.42 - And as the toes (10 toes) of the feet(two foot) were part of iron(Roman Empire), and part of clay(Israel or Jewish), so the kingdom shall be partly strong(Roman Empire), and partly broken(weaker).
v.43 - And whereas thou sawest iron(Roman Empire) mixed with miry clay(Israel), they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men (many nations, Gentile peoples- Revelation 11:v.2): but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron(Roman Empire-Gentile peoples) is not mixed with clay(Jewish people - Israel).
Be careful, or get ready
WHO IS PREPARED FOR THE BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON AGAINST THREE UNCLEAN SPIRITS LIKE FROGS WHICH DOMINATE THE WHOLE WORLD AND GUIDE AND RULE ALL THE NATIONS?
The main events before the beginning of the last week of Dan.9:27.
See below what will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here goes the events that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Dan.9:27:
- Death of Pope Francis, the rule and guide of the powerfull religious MONSTER of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and upon his horns(10 kings) ten crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy.-Vicarius Filli Dei;
- The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(earth is Israel-the clay- Isaiah 64:v.8-the dry land- Genesis 1:v.9);
- Election of the a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII(Rev.17:10);
- Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;
- The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15;
- The Pope Paulus VII will meet the Beast like lamb;
- Both will develop an union between the RCC and Judaism, iron with clay- Dan. 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay;
- A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders-Rev.11:1-2;
- The esoteric and kabbalistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews- will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,and the Beast of earth,the false messaiah-AN IMPOSTOR-will give to the Beast of sea his Power,and his Throne, and great Authority.Then,the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;
All events listed above,some will will happen before starting the last week-Dan.9:27,for example,the death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts,and others in the middle of the week and until the consumation.
Get ready
1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
2 Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.
3 Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.
4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.
Isaiah 29:16
Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Isaiah 64:8
But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (Read the chapter)
Mishael comment: I know in prophesy that Israel is the clay, but so are we.
The Lord is always working on us. In Isaiah 29:16, have you ever felt yourself being molded, pinched, a lump sliced off; and you almost cried, Lord what are You doing?
Ever felt like you were baking in the fire of Gods Love, for you?
Sometimes I wonder, "what is it (me) going to look like when you are finished with this piece?"
1 Thessalonians 5:11
Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
Romans 14:19
Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Wesley's Notes for Exodus 34:10
34:10 Behold I make a covenant - When the covenant was broke, it was Israel that broke it; now it comes to be renewed, it is God that makes it. If there be quarrels, we must bear all the blame; if there be peace, God must have all the glory. Before all thy people I will do marvels - Such as the drying up of Jordan, the standing still of the sun. Marvels indeed, for they were without precedent, such as have not been done in all the earth; the people shall see, and own the work of the Lord; and they were the terror of their enemies: it is a terrible thing that I will do.
My comment: Israel got right with God and he enabled them to destroy their enemies and chase them out. They became a terror ...
Try word Searching the word TERROR and see if other verses are in the Bible?
It's always interesting to me to read the other verses on the same subject.
Please explain what "terrible" means in this verse .
"In keeping of them is great reward" Psalms 19:11
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just and good" Romans 7:12
"the law is spiritual" Romans 7:14
"Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4
"Cursed is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10
"weak through the flesh" Romans 8:3
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20
"having no hope, and without God in the world" Ephesians 2:12
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all of our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" Isaiah 64:6
"We have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one...There is no fear of God before there eyes...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:9-23
"the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" Romans 1:18
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off" Romans 11:22
You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.
Our righteousness don't purify the heart
Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list
Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.
""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..
You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Job even disagrees with you:
Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.
If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
This is not the place to denounce these people but I was truly concerned about this teaching (& other non-Scriptural ones) that has been going over the centuries, where even women were blamed for causing men to sin (probably because of Eve's relationship to Satan), that Cain's descendants were masquerading as scientists & the educated, & in Branham's case, that he was a reincarnation of John the Baptist coming to herald the return of the Lord Jesus. Branham died in 1965 & we still wait.
So I get very grieved for folk who willingly fall for false teaching & absurdities, seeking in their zeal to learn more of God's Mind in the Bible, but are forced to re-interpret Scripture to fill in the missing links. As I've always maintained, the Bible must be read in its proper, natural way, intended way. When there are allegories, parables or image depictions given, then usually a clear understanding is also given with it. Where no information is given or something is hidden, then it needs to remain so. The problem arises when that which is "hidden or obscure" is then given 'new light' which often remains incompatible with the rest of Scripture. And then in reality, this becomes another Word of (or, from) God, & so we end up with a proliferation of teaching that is not only foreign to the Holy Word, but also becomes another tool from Satan to divert the seeking soul away from Truth & into judgement.
I choose to stand on what is stated in Revelation 22:18-19. Most arguments seem to come from not accepting what has been written down: genealogy proofs that God has faithfully recorded. I think God knew people would try to twist the Genealogies to suit their false teaching.
There is our proof.
Mishael
I hope I'm not stepping on Mishael's feet but just felt to post, a couple things, on the conversation you were having. So as you say "provide evidence" Genesis 4:1 is all I can give you. As along with in Genesis 4:25 Adam "knew" his wife and bore a son. About how you state "fruit" means "sex", or how you perceive it, just does not fit for me. Clearly they are speaking of eating fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. That God told them not to eat lest they will surely die. What about when the "serpent" says to Eve "Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?" Then she replies to him about eating fruit of the garden just not of the "certain" tree. Genesis 3:1-3. I can't see mixing this up with Eve having intercourse with(if that's what you portray) the "serpent". And about saying the genealogy would be wrong if Cain was Eve's first is incorrect. It would be the same as genealogies go off the "children of". As Cain has his own genealogy.
I guess one other thing I can state is in the Book of Enoch. Enoch was taken, on a tour, and actually was shown the Tree of Knowledge in a garden. A tree with fruit. I know not a lot of people believe in the Book of Enoch but I find many things in it that connect directly to our Holy Bible.
Maybe this whole thing with the "serpent seed" is really just a way to say someone is still living a very sinful and godless lifestyle. Which I would just categorize someone who has not been saved by Jesus Christ yet or still stuck in the "world". And I believe the Lord can save anyone, even the most wretched person. Instead of saying someone is of "serpent seed" I'd rather just say they haven't been saved yet or are not with the Lord. The whole "serpent seed" story was made up by someone and can not be proven. Just as many other things cannot be proven.
I'll stop here. God Bless you Hugo. Please don't take this harshly.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to respond in detail to what I wrote. Please do not for a moment consider that I think I know more than another brother. That is certainly not what I was in any way implying.
Please provide evidence that Cain is recorded as Adam's firstborn. I have never seen this in the Bible. The genealogy of Adam goes through Seth very clearly. (This is of course because Abel was killed, and because Cain was not Adam's son) Also in Jude 1:14 (And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these...) the Bible would be wrong if Cain was Adam's son because then Enoch would have been the eighth, not seventh.
Please provide evidence that I am fixated on nakedness, wantoness, adultery and covering sex organs. I was simply responding to another brother's question. Nor do I remember having mentioned sex before in any of the 30-odd comments I have been able to make on this Godly discussion board.
You write "The entire Bible is about Jesus: Genesis to the last verse in Revelation". God bless you for knowing that. It is certainly true. Amen. Notice what our Lord said to the Pharisees in John chapter 8: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. /// Jesus is telling the Pharisees that they are like the children of the serpent seed (Cain's line). The Pharisees reply that they are not born of fornication (No, they are not like the children of the serpent who fornicated with Eve). This is just one example of the many Many MANY references to the serpent seed found throughtout the Bible.
Dear brother, if you would like to grow even more in your loving understanding of our Lord's purpose for us, please do consider reading up about the serpent seed doctrine.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
By the mercy of God I have been able to live a Christian life for about 12 years now, and have been believing in the doctrine of the Serpent Seed for all of those years. I have not found anything unscriptural about it; in contrast, it perfectly dove-tails with the rest of the Bible, which is how I know it to be accurate.
Other ideas about the fall of man will not be able to dove-tail with the rest of Scripture. For example: if eating a literal fruit caused sin then why did God require blood as a sacrifice for sin?
If you would like to have an even deeper understanding of God's wonderful plan and purpose in Christ, consider reading up about the doctrine of the serpent seed which has unfortunately been lost to the mainstream Christians.
Peace and love in Christ
Just wanted to answer your question according to my understanding. :-D
(Did not say anything about a snake though)
Love in Christ
Who told u were sinning? Carnal not spiritual any more? Flesh..
Re: Hell. In the Bible the words used for Hell can be applied to both grave & a place of torment. In Genesis 37:35 we see the word 'Sheol' used. In Luke 16:23, Hades is used. Both words can be depicted as Hell, but its application calls for one being a grave & the other, a place of torment. As also with 'Gehenna': it may have had its roots in the Valley of Hinnom where the atrocities of human burning took place, but in Scripture ( Matthew 5:22, Luke 12:5) & references in Revelation 19,20 clearly speaks of a place other than that near Jerusalem where eternal torment of those judged unworthy to partake of God's Kingdom. I've only given a few Scriptures on this for want of space.
And yes, Jesus was in the grave (sepulchre, 'mnemeion') for three days before appearing to Mary. Blessings.
Thank you Al for your comments. I do understand what you're saying here & there are subjects in the Bible that are not given full treatment as we would like - maybe for a reason. In 1 Thessalonians 5:23, Paul prayed for the believers, "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ". For some reason, Paul thought to include their complete being in his prayer ("spirit, soul & body") & clearly of the three, the body is what is apparent to us & others, & Jesus also expressed in Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell". Now these Scriptures don't show the passage of the spirit after death, but to show that man does have a soul & spirit & the body is the visible vessel in which these abide.
1 Cor 15:50 speaks of the impossibility of man in his mortal body to enter Heaven. But when that body is changed from being in a corrupt state to an incorrupt state, then it will be outfitted for Heaven. Verses 52, 53 show that that which is corruptible will be raised incorruptible, for corruption must put on incorruption & mortal put on immortality. If the word "sleep", a euphemism for 'death', is applied to a body devoid of soul & spirit (i.e. the soul disappears altogether & the spirit (breath) returns to God) then what is the purpose for the resurrection of a body from the grave that is devoid of further life? But if God gives it life, where does it come from? Is this life from the grave of a different personality to the former?
Also, we must search deep to get to the truths revealed therein ......when was this burning hell created?.....which of the six days?......and God saw that they were good.....answer, it was not created yet.....the words used for hell refer to the grave, Gehenna a literal place on earth and one work tartaroo that refers to angels only....it's all there if you want to really learn what is being taught....
Many have the wrong idea about where Jesus went after he was crucified....he went to the grave for three days....take time to look up John 20 verse 17....."Touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father"....this was 3 days after he died....OK, enough for now....stay safe Sir
If you read it at a snails speed, you might see your errors.
Your allegations about Eve having sex with anyone other than her husband (whom to God performed the first marriage), Is also unscriptural. Try reading all of the Geneologies. Cain is recorded as Adams firstborn.
Isaiah 14:12-16 (description of satan)
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. (Suit of worms)
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 THEY THAT SEE THEE shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (devil) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
No offense intended, but I find your fixation on nakedness, wantoness, adultery and covering sex organs, shocking.
The entire Bible is about Jesus: Genesis to the last verse in Revelation. In fact, Revelation 22:18-19, tells us NOT TO ADD TO or, TO TAKE AWAY FROM, anything written in the Bible. To persist will get your part taken out of the Book of Life.
I'll end with this scripture:
Acts 19:15
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?
Mishael
All people can ONLY be saved by FAITH: faith being the implicit trust & looking to God to save them though not having seen Him. For the Jew, they received the Law from God & though none could fully obey its demands, it served to show them there sin, the need for sacrifice & of course, a faith that looked only to God & looked forward to God to provide a better Sacrifice. Most Jews didn't do this, though some did ( Hebrews 11) but God is the Judge of their hearts. For those without the Law (Gentiles), the laws written within us condemned us ( Romans 2:12-16) & we have to stand before God on that basis &/or the rejection of God's Sacrifice. "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name" ( John 1:12). And of course, we receive Him only by faith, not by works or sacrifice.
I can't answer your last question; it must be something wired in us to know what & where 'our shame' (our less honourable) body parts are.
I respond to you question about how Eve knew which parts of her body to cover.
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a symbol for sin/unbelief. The serpent (which was an upright walking creature between human and animal) seduced Eve to eat from the tree. The euphemism of the "fruit" is a symbol for sex. The serpent had sex with Eve. She took this "fruit" to Adam, and they ate. Afterwards they knew they were naked because of the effect of the lust. Therefore they made garment of leaves to cover their sexual organs. Later Eve bore the children. Cain was the son of the serpent. Abel was the son of Adam.
For more on this topic you can research the doctrine of the Serpent's Seed.
God be with you in Christ
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The King James translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. Hades had two separated parts. Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, or eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in Abraham's Bosom, which was called "paradise" by the LORD Jesus Christ when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "hell" here is not the Greek word "hades" but is the Greek word "tartarus" meaning abyss or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the place of torment and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive refers to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring victor
Hi Josef. I'm glad the points were helpful to you, but I have to restate, that what I said about the RC Church (re: idolatry, Mary worship, etc.) were things that were wrong at that Church. So when you wrote "the Pope is infallible & is Christ's representative on Earth", I had listed that as being wrong. The Pope is only a man, elected to be so by the RC hierarchy & considered to be infallible (i.e. he cannot sin or say or do any wrong). The Pope, like us, is sinful & we all have to be saved through faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ at the Cross. So please correct your notes, in this respect at least.
The thing that makes Christianity not a religion is that it is the only one that claims, & enjoys, a personal relationship to God & His Son Jesus Christ. There is no other religion that can make claim to this, as to them God is unknowable & too distant away & anything we do in this life, good or bad, will go to our account in our last days. This is not the teaching of Christ. We can do absolutely nothing to please God - we're all filthy with sin ( Isaiah 64:6) & a filthy person cannot make himself clean. He needs someone Pure to do it. So it was God, through His Son Jesus, Who did it for us & through this act of great Love, brought all those who believe in Him to a new relationship with Him. Now we can know this God of Love because He has willed this to happen by bringing us into the brotherhood of His Son, Whom He loves. Read John chapter 17. Islam believes that a person's deeds are weighed by the angels sitting above each shoulder & therefore one's destiny is finally given, but Jesus Christ through His death & resurrection gives us certainty that those who come by faith will be saved from Hell & it won't be dependent on what we try to do to clean ourselves up. Any good works we do won't be acceptable to God - Christ's Blood alone was the acceptable sacrifice to God.
Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the saviour of all men, specially those that believe.
1 Corinthians 2:9 For it is written ( Isaiah 64:4), Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart (mind) of man, the things God hath prepared for them that love him.